Well CCP wanted to nerf industry completely and they've just succeeded.
If you're not part of a large alliance (read one of the 3 power block alliances) or in a npc corp, you can be griefed (sorry leggally wardeced) out of the game.
This means NO POS's at all unless you part of a massive alliance block, so all the small industrials are now dead. Long live Goons.
If this goes through then I'll be un-subbing - I doubt you'll miss me and I won't be shedding any tears.

This all ****** new war dec system is putting a barrier so that you cant war dec goons or test because it will cost you 5 BILLION isk per week.

You see, CCP want to secure large alliances from decs and screw smaller corps/alliances so that large one can easily attack them directly or with alt corps.
And as i can see, they are really struggling to kill industry in EVE - no fixes or upgrades for indy players for years while making better ganking ships and now they want make so that everybody war decs them.

Nice one CCP.


And one more thing,
when you are attacked you can't do anything about it.
Attacker can easily get out of it - even if CCP is advertising this will make war more of commitment - yea, commitment for indy and smal corps to be screwed.

Well CCP wanted to nerf industry completely and they've just succeeded.
If you're not part of a large alliance (read one of the 3 power block alliances) or in a npc corp, you can be griefed (sorry leggally wardeced) out of the game.
This means NO POS's at all unless you part of a massive alliance block, so all the small industrials are now dead. Long live Goons.
If this goes through then I'll be un-subbing - I doubt you'll miss me and I won't be shedding any tears.

Pretty amusing that people are actually complaining about it being fixed.

I think you miss the point of all of this

People are moaning about large alliances being effectively 'perma dec shielded' due to the prohibitive cost to war dec them

The emphasis on war costs being tied to the number of people in a corp/alliance is unfairly biased towards larger groups of players.

The larger groups are safer than ever from being war decced and the smaller groups now have an even greater chance of being war decced themselves.

Also, no more will we see the 'David VS Goliath' matchups that were so interesting

Its like CCP decided that the blob mentality of nulsec was so amazing they wanted to bring it to hisec

Nice work :(

It seems that CCP is creating a PVP only system little by little, with each new update. I've only been playing 11 months so far, but enjoy the game. I don't PVP personally because there isn't a system setup for solo PVP action, just gangs out numbering a solo player for kicks or large groups of skilled players for big battles.

It would seem CCP should create a better PVP solo system like in other MMO's ...

What a bunch of whiny little girls. The entire point of a wardec is to allow Entity A to shoot at Entity B in circumstances where Entity B would otherwise be able to largely avoid such a scenario. If it is trivial to circumvent that intended gameplay mechanic (as it currently is) then it may as well not even be in the game.

Obvious exploit is obvious. Pretty amusing that people are actually complaining about it being fixed.

Hmm, that's odd, I thought war declarations were to allow fighting to occur without concord being involved.

It will become very easy to hire mercs. Simple.

Yes of course. That will solve everything. It is impossible to imagine that the same people deccing you will be the same people defending you. No one in EVE would ever do something so dastardly. It will simply not occur to them. Ever.

So CCP is going to change to dec system so that you can no longer scrape a dec with a dec shield. Also, there is going to be a price break for deccing small corps (they're going to a base price + target member count system). We will also be getting extreme rigs and drone damage mods.

From what I can see, this pretty much spells the end of any high sec POSes smaller than larges, and even those might be in trouble. Sentry drone pretty much make ECM mods useless. If Sentries start doing descent damage all you've really got as a deterrent is a large enough amount of EHP.

This change really needs to happen with a POS overhaul. You think inflations bad now, wait until we start loosing a bunch of industrial capacity.

It seems that CCP is creating a PVP only system little by little, with each new update. I've only been playing 11 months so far, but enjoy the game. I don't PVP personally because there isn't a system setup for solo PVP action, just gangs out numbering a solo player for kicks or large groups of skilled players for big battles.

It would seem CCP should create a better PVP solo system like in other MMO's where a small team or a solo player can enter a room with an equal number of foes to battle on a level playing field for the most part. I doubt this will happen since the vocal "squeaky wheel" players (PVP) seem to be the ones who gets in CCP face about desires for the game. From what I see here and have experienced in game is ALL PVP players with very little exceptions have ZERO consideration for playing fairly and simple want the thrill of blowing another players ship up; and if there is no risk of getting blown up - all the better... Random PVP action makes no sense in this game; since there is no challenge, it's either get outnumbered or join a gang.... pass!

This all ****** new war dec system is putting a barrier so that you cant war dec goons or test because it will cost you 5 BILLION isk per week.

You see, CCP want to secure large alliances from decs and screw smaller corps/alliances so that large one can easily attack them directly or with alt corps.
And as i can see, they are really struggling to kill industry in EVE - no fixes or upgrades for indy players for years while making better ganking ships and now they want make so that everybody war decs them.

Nice one CCP.


And one more thing,
when you are attacked you can't do anything about it.
Attacker can easily get out of it - even if CCP is advertising this will make war more of commitment - yea, commitment for indy and smal corps to be screwed.

1v1 wars are about 125M/wk

This all ****** new war dec system is putting a barrier so that you cant war dec goons or test because it will cost you 5 BILLION isk per week.

You see, CCP want to secure large alliances from decs and screw smaller corps/alliances so that large one can easily attack them directly or with alt corps.
And as i can see, they are really struggling to kill industry in EVE - no fixes or upgrades for indy players for years while making better ganking ships and now they want make so that everybody war decs them.

Nice one CCP.


And one more thing,
when you are attacked you can't do anything about it.
Attacker can easily get out of it - even if CCP is advertising this will make war more of commitment - yea, commitment for indy and smal corps to be screwed.