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Glarion Garnier
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.09.18 12:01:00 -
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1053863/Park-attendants-ordered-interrogate-adults-spotted-children.html
this is in the UK
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Benco97
Gallente
The Star League
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Posted - 2008.09.18 12:14:00 -
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Wow...
That's ridiculous.
I thought public parks were for everyone not just mother and child?
 Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
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Hatt0ri Hanz0
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Posted - 2008.09.18 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Benco97
Wow...
That's ridiculous.
I thought public parks were for everyone not just mother and child?
Nope. Just mother and child. Everyone else is either a pedophile, kidnapper, or a combination of both.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.09.18 12:53:00 -
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"WHAT!?! I'm no goddamn pedophile, I'm a homicidal maniac! How dare you insult me!!"
*thump* *crack* *smack*
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.09.18 13:08:00 -
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So, as soon as you get to the park, grab a child no-one is watching, keep them with you, and you'll be fine.
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2008.09.18 13:16:00 -
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Don't taze me bro!
Coming to UK parks soon.
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Kalahari Wayrest
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.18 13:22:00 -
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madness.
oh wait, this is a daily mail article 
/ceases to take seriously
after some digging though, as ridiculous and blown-out of all proportion most daily mail articles are (**** racoons!), it looks like this may have some substance -
another source from the rag to the area in question Shropshire Star
The Telegraph
Also a link to a local forum, where one of the evicted penguins () has made a few posts under the pseudonym 'Shropshire Lass' which sheds a bit of light on their motivation, interpretation and opinion - of particular interest the arguement that the rules apply predominantly to children's play areas, and her arguement that they were nowhere near a child's play area when questioned.
From reading all this stuff, my opinion is that protecting the children was simply a pretext from removing 'troublemakers' from the park; that particular pretext has backfired a bit. I think the council would have been better off if they had just been honest and said "we don't like you distributing your ideologue in our park - leave."
But as a general policy (which I don't think it is, but if it was...), it's fear-mongering madness, particularly ironic is that if a genuine pedo actually has a child with them in the park, they'd be safer in what they were doing under this than before  Guilty until proven innocent etc etc 
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TCup
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.09.18 13:47:00 -
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For several years now the australian and new zealand national airline carriers have banned unaccompanied males from sitting next to a child or somesuch misandrist nonsence.
Only going to get worse 
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kor anon
Amarr
Sons Of The Fallen
BROTHERS GRIM.
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Posted - 2008.09.18 14:54:00 -
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disgusting stuff, 'no child therefore you must be a pedophile' is a lame arguement. The guy who thought of that should be chemically castrated for irony's sake
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Mea Lustra
Amarr
United Sentients
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Posted - 2008.09.18 15:05:00 -
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Edited by: Mea Lustra on 18/09/2008 15:05:30
That's rediculous. Should try the "if you're black you can't go near someone since you might steal his wallet", lets see how fast THAT gets a reaction.
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.09.18 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Mea Lustra
Edited by: Mea Lustra on 18/09/2008 15:05:30
That's rediculous. Should try the "if you're black you can't go near someone since you might steal his wallet", lets see how fast THAT gets a reaction.
Originally by: Kor Anon
disgusting stuff, 'no child therefore you must be a pedophile' is a lame arguement. The guy who thought of that should be chemically castrated for irony's sake
If your at the grocery store with your male friend and his 2 kids you must be a gay couple 
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.09.18 15:29:00 -
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And here I thought America had some crazy power drunk people in power...
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc
Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2008.09.18 15:31:00 -
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Nah, here it just the crazy local council.
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Fraszoid
Caldari
Condottieri Industries
The Economy
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Posted - 2008.09.18 16:15:00 -
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This reminds me of the time some friends went to Chuckie Cheeze when we were in college. They wouldn't let them in because they didn't have any kids with them, so they then proceeded to ask random families in the parking lot if they could borrow their children to get in. Didn't work, but was a good start. Other option go with someone who is small enough to pass as a child, you can just say they are 12 or something if asked, and only on closer inspection can you see they are older. On of my friends plays that all the time. The best way they can protect would be monitor the high risk areas because a blanket policy over such a large area is going to anger lots of people and make trouble.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.18 16:25:00 -
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I just knew that this would be a Daily Mail story...
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc
Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2008.09.18 18:06:00 -
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Edited by: Xen Gin on 18/09/2008 18:06:38
Originally by: Rodj Blake
I just knew that this would be a story strongly highlighted by the Daily Mail...
Fixed.
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.18 18:22:00 -
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I had a situation at a motel once. I booked to stay for two nights with my gf on our way from Heathrow to Aberdeen (600 miles). The guy at the desk asked if she was over 16. I was shocked and really insulted that he'd effectively accused me of being a pedophile. Regardless of the fact that my 25 year old gf nearly punched his lights out, I reported him to the manager the next day.
It's getting stupid now. I know we have to protect kids from pedophiles etc but not by accusing everyone of being one.
As a security guard in a shopping mall, I had to deal with lost kids all the time. I even got accused once of trying to abduct a kid. The mother had walked off to a shop outside the mall and left her 4 year old daughter on her own, playing near the kiddie rides. A concerned shopper reported it to me and I stood with the girl and radio'd the control room to report it. While I was trying to coax a description of the mother out of the girl so I could relay it on the radio for a camera search from the control room, the mother came back as if everything was normal and started accusing me of trying to take her kid away. I was so livid, I couldn't even talk to her. My manager came down and explained it and told her that if she did it again in the mall, he would call the social services and have the kid legally taken away from her. Even after the explanation and before the warning, I never even got an apology, she was about to just walk away with her kid and ignore us when my manager gave her the warning. She did it again a week later and my manager stuck with the warning. Social services turned up with the police and took the girl into care, right in front of the mother who had returned by this time. Better the social services than some pedophile which is what would have happened if the mother had kept on leaving her daughter all alone in a busy shopping mall.
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Captain Hudson
Caldari
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.18 18:36:00 -
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It's sad aint it, i dont even dare look at a child in the street or supermarket or where ever for fear of being attacked by said mother/farther
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Kazuma Saruwatari
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.18 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Dantes Revenge
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Brigsby5987
Caldari
32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.
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Posted - 2008.09.18 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Hudson
It's sad aint it, i dont even dare look at a child in the street or supermarket or where ever for fear of being attacked by said mother/farther
No joke dude, this woman was in front of me today, with a 3 year old girl... I used to be dating a girl that had a 3 year old little girl... Was a "Dad" for a short while...I thought about complimenting her but with things the way they are today she would've probably given me a hard way to go...
Kinda sad really.
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Taihira
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Posted - 2008.09.19 00:24:00 -
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my partner has children from her marriage, the elder one is 14, but in all honestly could look about two years older.
I regularly take her out to art galleries and the likes. She has, on several occasions, walked along arm in arm and leant on my shoulder as we're viewing things.
I'm more than twice her age, and the number of dirty looks I've had from people in such galleries, presumably assuming I'm some sort of kiddy-fiddling nonce is, frankly astounding.
it does make me want a t-shirt saying "no, I'm F****** her mother. are you a sick pervert to assume worse?"
(posted under my alt, just in case some friend of hers is an eve player, somehow manages to associate my main's name with my online nickname, and associates that with her mother's Livejournal, and causes a "oh my GOD! you're sleeping with my MUM!" drama... )
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CynoCyno1
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Posted - 2008.09.19 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: TCup
For several years now the australian and new zealand national airline carriers have banned unaccompanied males from sitting next to a child or somesuch misandrist nonsence.
Only going to get worse
thats a good thing I would not want to sit next to no ****ing moaning crying rat.
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Brea Lafail
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Posted - 2008.09.19 02:34:00 -
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"had not undergone Criminal Records Bureau checks or risk assessments before entering the park - a requirement under the Child Protection Act"
Wut? So. Car thief wouldn't be allowed into a park? Or a school? Or anywhere?
Oh, you crazy brits.
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Atomos Darksun
Infortunatus Eventus
Obsidian Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.19 02:43:00 -
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It's sad to think that this will probably be the United States in less than a century.
Originally by: Amoxin
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.09.19 08:10:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
So, as soon as you get to the park, grab a child no-one is watching, keep them with you, and you'll be fine.
I laughed way more than I should have
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2008.09.19 17:41:00 -
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****s.
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Pan Crastus
Anti-Metagaming League
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Posted - 2008.09.20 08:55:00 -
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GB is a fine example of how a mostly well educated population can be turned into complete morons through the use of the politics of fear.
I used to like british people and was even thinking of moving there, now I just laugh at them for being told how to behave through speakers attached to surveillance cameras.
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Malcanis
RuffRyders
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.20 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Pan Crastus
GB is a fine example of how a mostly well educated population can be turned into complete morons through the use of the politics of fear.
I used to like british people and was even thinking of moving there, now I just laugh at them for being told how to behave through speakers attached to surveillance cameras.
This is sad because it's true.
But if it's any comfort to your shattered illusions, the mood is starting to turn IMO.
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CynoAlt1
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.09.20 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Pan Crastus
GB is a fine example of how a mostly well educated population can be turned into complete morons through the use of the politics of fear.
I used to like british people and was even thinking of moving there, now I just laugh at them for being told how to behave through speakers attached to surveillance cameras.
This is sad because it's true.
But if it's any comfort to your shattered illusions, the mood is starting to turn IMO.
Starting to turn? People have been griping about it for years. But that's the trouble. All the changes that curtail our freedoms have been too small for anyone to really stir up a revolution over. So it's been gradually getting worse and worse, and nobody is prepared to stick their necks out to really do something about it.
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Mugensha
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Posted - 2008.09.20 11:22:00 -
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Sucks what our country is coming to...
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