Would love to see that wordpress website but it seems hosted on a 300 baud connection.

wordpress websites are the worst

if you think your message is worth reading take a few minutes or a few units of currency to starving web designer and actually look your opinion is something that matters

I want more Live events!

looks interesting, I might drop by sometime and check it out.

though I heard ccp dropbear is no long with ccp, any idea how that's going to impact your project?

Hello, it is a valid concern, but I believe CCP Dropbear is still with CCP. He has been mentioned by CCP Abraxas as recent as a month ago, busy with more Live Event and other contents. Also from our knowledge, he's been busy with the honeymoon. =)

hmm, this is where i heard it from:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=987876#post987876

not sure if it's true of course.

Hi, firstly I would like to confirm that CCP Dropbear is no longer with the company. It is not my place to explain the circumstances surrounding this, but I will say that the thread linked above is incorrect.

Some of you may have met me during the Live Events roundtable at Fanfest. I along with other devs (Abraxas, Affinity, Gnauton, Navigator to name a few) have taken up the mantle of live events. We were reponsible for the Dev Caravans that occurred over Christmas as well as the Scavenger Hunt player event at Fanfest. During the roundtable the Arek'Jaalan Project was mentioned by a few players. It is on our list of "cool things we want to get involved in" which is rather extensive following said roundtable. We are currently working on our Next Big Thing and so I will not give specific dates, times or topics at the moment, but rest assured that Live Events are going nowhere and we are committed to making some awesome memories for you all.

There you see. CCP is working tirelessly to bring the next big events for the Arek'Jaalan Project! Do not despair!

By the way, are CCP Abraxas, Affinity, Gnauton, and Navigator going to continue to carry the mantle of the ingame character Hilen Tukoss?

Why didn't you ask if I was going to do it!

As I said, I don't want to make any specific promises or decisions right now. Let's just say it's all on the table at this point.

My apologies haha. Could you at least tell us who the contact person is within CCP, so we can communicate Arek'Jaalan's findings & responsibilities? Without Hilen Tukoss at the helm, it would be extremely difficult to get things organized.

I suppose this is where you could come to the stage, to make a brief appearance as Hilen Tukoss and assure the existing Arek'Jaalan communities that the Project is still fully "operational?"

... but rest assured that Live Events are going nowhere and we are committed to making some awesome memories for you all.

Double entendre?

I'm your best contact point for any information you want to pass along. I head up the Live Events community that we have in CCP.

Thank you very much. I presume ingame mail is the best approach? Should we send it to "CCP Goliath" or "Hilen Tukoss?"

CCP Goliath please. You can also link me to blogs, wikis and whatnot via my Twitter (in my sig)

Arg!

....


You sure things are on the table? Seems more like up in the air or under the couch. Talk like that gives me the feeling you are going to ditch it or make an abrupt closure (quite an effort from my side going in the bin in both cases) and move on to the Next Big Thing.

You have to understand, this particular project has a lot of history and high expectation attached to it. I don't want to say "yeah I'm doing it and I'm going to be the next Hilen and it's going to be awesome" because I can't promise that at this stage. Let me get caught up on the materials, sync up with the team, and then I will actually be in a place to talk specifics. I'm sure everyone in this thread would rather I made an informed decision and kept true to the initial spirit and quality of the project than jumped in with half-baked ideas and soured the memory of it.

What?

Is there an actually going to be a meaningful live event happening at site one or is this just a place for role players to hand out?

You have to understand, this particular project has a lot of history and high expectation attached to it. I don't want to say "yeah I'm doing it and I'm going to be the next Hilen and it's going to be awesome" because I can't promise that at this stage. Let me get caught up on the materials, sync up with the team, and then I will actually be in a place to talk specifics. I'm sure everyone in this thread would rather I made an informed decision and kept true to the initial spirit and quality of the project than jumped in with half-baked ideas and soured the memory of it.

Well played sir...

You have to understand, this particular project has a lot of history and high expectation attached to it. I don't want to say "yeah I'm doing it and I'm going to be the next Hilen and it's going to be awesome" because I can't promise that at this stage. Let me get caught up on the materials, sync up with the team, and then I will actually be in a place to talk specifics. I'm sure everyone in this thread would rather I made an informed decision and kept true to the initial spirit and quality of the project than jumped in with half-baked ideas and soured the memory of it.

Wow, this is really cool. I've been trying to find more info about Live Events by just lurking the various channels, but this is a much easier jumping off point.

By the way, that public channel you linked does not exist anymore? Is there a different one for the A'J narrative?

Thanks, this is really cool.. I need to spend more time getting into this. Live Events were a huge reason why I loved UO so much :)

Glad to know that it peaked your interest! As for the channel, it should work.: Arek'Jaalan

If it still does not work, please let us know or contact Morwen Lagann. She is the Chief Archivist of the Arek'Jaalan Project.

Glad to know that it peaked your interest! As for the channel, it should work.: Arek'Jaalan

If it still does not work, please let us know or contact Morwen Lagann. She is the Chief Archivist of the Arek'Jaalan Project.

If you need to poke any of the players involved with A'J with questions, I know many of us (Mark, Rhavas, Antiquarian, Grideris, myself, and a number of others) watch twitter and/or evemail, so feel free to chase us down. We'd love to be involved if possible, and we don't bite. (At least, not hard, anyway...)

Yay, someone mentioned me!

Though as a reminder, I was the Australian with red hair at the Live Events round table. And if you need a hand, just ask.

The danger CCP Goliath is taking on here, is that of effort; if not careful he might end up having to do a lot of effort to make events with simple goals to draw in a big crowd or he can continue to keep the project more mental demanding with less effort on his behalf, which on one hand encourages a few players to be very productive but has difficulties appealing to the masses

I wonder if doing Live Events count as company work.

Hi, firstly I would like to confirm that CCP Dropbear is no longer with the company. It is not my place to explain the circumstances surrounding this, but I will say that the thread linked above is incorrect.

Some of you may have met me during the Live Events roundtable at Fanfest. I along with other devs (Abraxas, Affinity, Gnauton, Navigator to name a few) have taken up the mantle of live events. We were reponsible for the Dev Caravans that occurred over Christmas as well as the Scavenger Hunt player event at Fanfest. During the roundtable the Arek'Jaalan Project was mentioned by a few players. It is on our list of "cool things we want to get involved in" which is rather extensive following said roundtable. We are currently working on our Next Big Thing and so I will not give specific dates, times or topics at the moment, but rest assured that Live Events are going nowhere and we are committed to making some awesome memories for you all.

I know it's a while ago [pre-crucible], but I think I ran into some pdf file report written by the A'J Project members specifically studying the celestial sphere of New Eden and try to determine the span of the current universe, or something like that. And then the nebula are redone in the crucible expansion, and I suppose the celestial sphere has changed a lot in the process. Does that mean A'J Project's effort wasted?

P.S. I'm heading to the live event site right now. Hopefully it's still there to be seen.

Could you just.... give us , the players, the tools to make our own deadspace sites?

And then the tools to roleplay our own live events? Like within the deadspace site, and other approved areas, you have players sign up, like ISD, and they run the live events for you

Why not give ver the majority of live events to the players

Give us tools too....

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Fly any ship we deem we want for the live event we are running.

Let us spawn ships at the sites.

Basically let players hired as volunteers, the power to be like a DM in a D&D game.

Heck you want to make it even more hands off? Let the people with the power to play story teller in eve, be elected via, in game voting system. Easier to watch over one player making events then 1000s right


Anyways, you should let us run our own events, and drop our own money into rewards for these sites. You don't need to pump in free ships that we can spawn for free. Like the eve market do it's thing. Let the STs buy buys, set AI for them, and send team off versus a group of players. So it would boost sales of ships no one uses!

anyways, just a thought, curious if it's even going to ever be a possibility.

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I know it's a while ago [pre-crucible], but I think I ran into some pdf file report written by the A'J Project members specifically studying the celestial sphere of New Eden and try to determine the span of the current universe, or something like that. And then the nebula are redone in the crucible expansion, and I suppose the celestial sphere has changed a lot in the process. Does that mean A'J Project's effort wasted?

P.S. I'm heading to the live event site right now. Hopefully it's still there to be seen.

I THINK you're actually referring to the original Project Compass, which is a project I originally ran. The celestial sphere HAS changed, but I think the original analysis could probably still be done. The star pattern I was relying on in that project, Orion, is still present in k-space (and pops up just about everywhere once you know what to look for) as well as in w-space, there's just a bunch of OTHER stars now visible in k-space that makes it slightly less obvious.

Rather than considering the effort truly wasted, however, I believe the original Compass acts as an interesting baseline to the revised Project Compass (which I'm currently in the process of wrapping up, along with my co-lead Faulx). The report (which hopefully will be out soon) actually directly compares the original results to the new results. The only part that is EXPLICITLY disproven by the new Compass project is the conclusions I made regarding the kind of galaxy New Eden is in. We now have distinct galactic banding, which suggests a spiral galaxy, which is something I originally discounted in the first go-around. Still, I can use the bulk of the original research as some tepid support for my findings in the new Project Compass.

Which is a little weird, because that's how science works in the real world as well: building off of previous research.

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We are currently working on our Next Big Thing and so I will not give specific dates, times or topics at the moment, but rest assured that Live Events are going nowhere... ( snip)

I THINK you're actually referring to the original Project Compass, which is a project I originally ran. The celestial sphere HAS changed, but I think the original analysis could probably still be done. The star pattern I was relying on in that project, Orion, is still present in k-space (and pops up just about everywhere once you know what to look for) as well as in w-space, there's just a bunch of OTHER stars now visible in k-space that makes it slightly less obvious.

Rather than considering the effort truly wasted, however, I believe the original Compass acts as an interesting baseline to the revised Project Compass (which I'm currently in the process of wrapping up, along with my co-lead Faulx). The report (which hopefully will be out soon) actually directly compares the original results to the new results. The only part that is EXPLICITLY disproven by the new Compass project is the conclusions I made regarding the kind of galaxy New Eden is in. We now have distinct galactic banding, which suggests a spiral galaxy, which is something I originally discounted in the first go-around. Still, I can use the bulk of the original research as some tepid support for my findings in the new Project Compass.

Which is a little weird, because that's how science works in the real world as well: building off of previous research.

The effort thing... sort of a core issue. The number of potential willing participants to a live event is always great, except when effort from their behalf enters the picture. Most have, after all, enough work to be done in real life already

Headfirst's Sansha events before Incursion were brilliant as they easily included people due to, frankly said, the simple minded goal they laid out; here are the Sansha, destroy them. Some people added spice to the mix by trying to side with the Sansha and the event(s) went pretty well

Arek'Jaalan on the other hand has difficulties explaining the people that want to participate what they should really do. There is nothing to shoot and no immediate rewards to be had. As one who has left real life academia behind I found it as a great opportunity to practice "fictional science", but for somebody with no such experience it seems getting into the topic is hard

Site One was a great event though, again because of the simple and straight forward goal and accessibility. The two w-space incidents were pretty bad as they ended up being effort made for a single person/group only and highly exclusive. To make matters worse, not much was really gained from the project point of view, as in the first instance the involved player was more concerned about killboard whoring and did not find it weird at all to find multiple completely stationary cov-ops frigates. In the second case the player was a w-space alt intended to scan out wormholes in case of access being lost and therefore incapable of engaging a single Sleeper drone and explore a rather tempting spatial rift

The danger CCP Goliath is taking on here, is that of effort; if not careful he might end up having to do a lot of effort to make events with simple goals to draw in a big crowd or he can continue to keep the project more mental demanding with less effort on his behalf, which on one hand encourages a few players to be very productive but has difficulties appealing to the masses

I wonder if doing Live Events count as company work.

Indeed having an actual storyline around which to base live events, as the incident with the abandoned bombers is concerned, is a perfect example of why this is such a tricky endeavor.

If an abandoned Jovian ship full of storyline popped up, someone would destroy it "just to see something go boom" without any connection to the game beyond that, or thinking, etc. It's rather painful. Imagine civilization collapsing and a scientist managing to invent a warp drive before dying, and then someone digs up the journal 100 years later and uses it for toilet paper - that's (potentially) EvE with the mix of the kind of people we have around here.

So next time they deliver some content, they have to be really careful about it. They probably just stuck those bombers in the wormhole system and that's that. Then look what happened. To do stuff like that, they need to have people actually watching who is doing what in the game in real time and then strategically place the content.

That may require way more work and time then they are ready to invest.

Cant wait for more live events, I loved tormenting slave heavenbound01 ;-))

Shouldn't this topic be in Events&gatherings?

Do not despair!

Lets keep up the good work and one day, Hilen Tukoss will return.

Or he got lost in a wormhole and Eifyr hires a replacement.. something..

At this point, I would be happy with ANY replacements as long as they are sponsored by CCP.

Once we were mighty,
Stars bent to our will,
Our reach was infinite,
Our power incontestable,
With outstretched hands we tried,
To touch the face of perfection,
But we came too close,
To that which is not due mortals,
And our punishment is our curse,
Our endless sorrow.
- Translation of an old Jovian poem

Amen to that, it's been far too long since the last events. It's a real shame how it all suddenly died out.

You are right. It involved so many pilots with so much potential.

Thread moved from EVE General Discussion to In-Game Events and Gatherings forum.

Elysium (Constellation) part of the Angel Cartel and former home of the Jove.



Elysium ruled by Cronus the immortal descendants of Gaia .

Thread moved back from In-Game Events and Gatherings to EVE General Discussion forum. Enjoy your stay in GD.

Huh?

I think Gaia Ma'chello was trying to make a joke, as she has the same (first) name.

So... what you know of a specific event or this is just generally to get people excited about the idea of events?

Looks like they're back.

Angel Cartel conduct planetary attack in Oddelulf, hundreds dead

Tech4 Breaking Story in Full: Intercepted Messages Bamboozle CONCORD Experts

Youtube video: by delonewolf

AAAAAGH I missed a live event!!!!!!!!!! (kills dog)


I will now go roam the streets having one sided incoherent arguments with strangers.

Ah Project Compass was one smart piece of work! I remember it.

Ah Project Compass was one smart piece of work! I remember it.

Unlocked on request of OP and moved to Live Events subforum.

I have been in Site One, and I even made a short sightseeing video for CQ with a screenshoot of it. Site One is truly magnificent project. There was a lot of construction workers on the site, near the deadspace gate. I wonder, what is build there, and why?
Will there be some agents there, giving missions to unknown, wormhole space? Museums with Sleeper stuff? Wormhole generators? Deep space Scanner antennas?