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Rudy Metallo
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.09.19 03:21:00 -
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GIEF TEH SET UPZ. Mac makes EFT not work, so I need some ideas from you, the general public, on a 0.0 ratting cruiser. I'd like it to be able to take Dual BS spawns, but not necessarily triples. Rats will most likely be of the Serpentis type, so yeah.
Currently have a pretty nice enyo, but it takes forevvveeer to take down the dual spawns etc. I'd like something that goes relatively quickly.
No Caldari cruisers, but all others are game. I was thinking maybe an Arby or Vexor, although my drone skills are barely par (Can use t2 though).
Was thinking maybe an arby and carry amarr meds (cant remember name) for the shields, then pull them in and use valks on the armor, and then keep some hammerheads as spares, and maybe 5 warriors for the frigs. But I'd still need to figure out a tank. Although I was thinking that maybe I could use nav links and maintain distance at like 70km and let me drones pewpew them all to death. Sound like a good strategy?
Feedback/fits plx. --
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Gimpb
Sturmgrenadier Inc Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2008.09.19 03:29:00 -
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NPCs don't have resist profiles like player ships in most cases. Generally, they're weakest to whatever damage type they shoot most.
So for serp this would mean they're probably most weak to thermal and a little weak to kinetic but somewhat resistant to em and explosive.
To me, that screams vexor.
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.09.19 03:37:00 -
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I'd probably do vexor with light blasters. It's probably got the best damage potential while still remaining tankable.
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Rudy Metallo
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.09.19 04:16:00 -
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I dont need just "Vexor, kthx" I need actual setups because I cant figure one out myself without doing a lot of math I'm too lazy to do. --
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Aravel Thon
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Posted - 2008.09.19 05:16:00 -
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Originally by: Rudy Metallo I dont need just "Vexor, kthx" I need actual setups because I cant figure one out myself without doing a lot of math I'm too lazy to do.
talk about being a complete jackass. Those 2 posters were trying to help.
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Rick AstIey
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Posted - 2008.09.19 05:18:00 -
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Thorax with 5 rails and 5x hammerheads, a MWD, and a small repper.
Stay out of range and keep the mwd on, it should do fine.
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Fifi LeFume
Infestation. The Church.
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Posted - 2008.09.19 05:19:00 -
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Originally by: Rick AstIey Thorax with 5 rails and 5x hammerheads, a MWD, and a small repper.
Stay out of range and keep the mwd on, it should do fine.
I disagree. I would say blasters instead of rails while orbiting the bs's at 500 is a better tank. rat blasterships can generally hit farther out than their player counterparts.
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.09.19 05:19:00 -
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Originally by: Rudy Metallo I dont need just "Vexor, kthx" I need actual setups because I cant figure one out myself without doing a lot of math I'm too lazy to do.
What am I, your ****ing maid?
Do your own work. GL getting any positive feedback after that post.
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N3oXr2ii
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Posted - 2008.09.19 11:53:00 -
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try this 1 thorax 2x heavy neutron blasters with iron ammo 3x 200mm rail guns with antimatter ammo 1x 1mn mwd 1x small shield booster rest in targt painters in lows 2x small armor repaier 1x cap flux coils rest in overdrives 5x remote armor repair drones
u can use this to pvp against any hostiles that come in the system and alwways remeber they can't shoot ur pod in 0.0 if u have implants
good luck
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Artemis Rose
Varion Galactic Accord Corporate Enterprise Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.19 12:43:00 -
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Nobody in your corp has EFT or has ever ratted before?
Assuming a Vexor, use drones that target the NPCs weakest resist, get a solid tank going. 2x Heavy, 2x Med 1x Light. Carry a flight of ECM drones for an attempt to escape being scrambled.
Highs
Tractors/Salvagers
Mid
MWD, w/e
Lows
Tank (use rat specific resists)
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Rudy Metallo
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.09.19 19:32:00 -
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I apologise for my curtness, but I explicitly said in the first post that I needed setups, and when people ignore my original request, or dont bother to read my post at all, why should I give them any more respect?
I ended up doing some math anyway, I figure I can sit at 75km in an Arby w/ two link augs, an mwd, web and two large extenders, and then some cap relays and nanofibers in the lows and I'm sitting pretty. Just need more drone skills. --
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Shosoru
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.19 20:10:00 -
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what i take for all serpentis spawns and faction spawns up to good howler spawn and others. vexor with tractor beams 2 and 2 salvagers and one whatever , mid afterburner!!!!no mwd only AB cab booster and 20km scrambler(not for pvp , for the rat you are killing atm) lows 2 activ hardeners or 2 EANM T2(i prefer the eanm but activs are even a slight bit better and cheaper however dont like activ hardeners.) and 2 MAR one t2 one named meta 2 or 3.
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Ambrosious Martin
Son of Man
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Posted - 2008.09.19 20:52:00 -
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Edited by: Ambrosious Martin on 19/09/2008 20:54:23
Originally by: Rudy Metallo I dont need just "Vexor, kthx" I need actual setups because I cant figure one out myself without doing a lot of math I'm too lazy to do.
The best thing I could advise to you is to log into your account on this here website and click the cancel button.. becuase if your TOO LAZY to play with some ship fittings then your way too lazy to actually play the game you are paying for.
I have to agree with the rest of the posters who say your a complete ass! I mean I troll from time to time, but atleast I ask for and am thankfull for the advise I get when I ask for it.
And about the Vexor unless your an ebayer who just bought your character, if you cant figure out a good fitting for a vexor you definatelly need to cancel your account!
*edit* Oh and the vexor makes for a way better ratter than an arby, and ditch the MWD, your a tossed salad. your signiture rad is going to be fukkign huge. Oh and GROW UP!
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Shosoru
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.19 21:04:00 -
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Ambrosious Martin Hay sloww down m8 you can get temporaraly band for such flaiming. There are some diferent ways to set up a vexor and its ok to ask. Tho i must say that i donot like Rudy Metallo way of asking pplz for help all that much.
use the vexor i posted and be happy with it. it wont get much better but you need to figur out how to fly it yourself, if you do not want to compare setups then you are looking for us to make an discousion out of that for you but normaly that dousent happen and your lefft with many setups but dont know whitch for what job. for sanchas try mine and dont forget to warp scramble them.
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Ambrosious Martin
Son of Man
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Posted - 2008.09.19 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Shosoru Ambrosious Martin Hay sloww down m8 you can get temporaraly band for such flaiming. There are some diferent ways to set up a vexor and its ok to ask. Tho i must say that i donot like Rudy Metallo way of asking pplz for help all that much.
use the vexor i posted and be happy with it. it wont get much better but you need to figur out how to fly it yourself, if you do not want to compare setups then you are looking for us to make an discousion out of that for you but normaly that dousent happen and your lefft with many setups but dont know whitch for what job. for sanchas try mine and dont forget to warp scramble them.
QFT!!!!!!!!!!!! Nobody asked for you to defend your alt!
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Little Fistter
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Posted - 2008.09.19 21:36:00 -
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Calculate the damage you will sustain. Maybe 200-250 dps from two BSes', and that will be 60% thermal and 40K kinetic.
Select a cruiser that can maintain a tank. Vexor is good, but a Thorax might be better. I assume you can not use energised armor resists, so go with faction plates and get the resists up there for thermal and kinetic. Make sure your repper can run non stop on your cap, do not depend on cap boosters. Once you can tank, its time to fit weapons. Serp BSes tend to stay 25-40 km away, so you either have to be fast and circle them with blasters, or use damage mods and rails.
I would try this:
Hi 5x 200 mm rail with Iron, Lead and Antimatter
Medium cap recharger 10 mn AB option
Low Corulum C-Type Thermal Plate Corulum C-Type Kinetic Plate 1600 mm Rolled Tungsten Armor Medium Armor Rep II (or best named MAR you can afford) Magnetic Stabilizer II (Or best named you can afford)
Drones Five Hammerhead II or Infiltrator II
Rigs Nanobot Accelerator Trimark Armor Pump
Also I would try to get some implants that benefot armor tanking or medium hybrid damage/ROF.
Bonus points: I think you might want to ask friendly, kind people around you in real life about these things we call "manners".
Good luck! Suggestion: Please color jump gates the same color as the system security rating of the destination system in the overview.
LITTLE FISTTER
Broken Sigs?
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Shosoru
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.19 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: Shosoru on 19/09/2008 21:42:46
Quote: QFT!!!!!!!!!!!! Nobody asked for you to defend your alt!
I'm not defending that guy at all, lol why would i open a thread about 0.0 cruisors and give myself the best fit lol. If you think im just a alt with nothing to say check the topic 856001. there you can see that this is not an alt. I advise you again not to flaim in the forums this can result in punishment.
Little Fistter thats the damag you would take if your not moving, with an AB and a range of over 10k or under 500m your to fast for theyr guns and your signature radious takes away alot of the damag, smaler signature dous not just mean less damag proportionaly but it also decreases the qualety of hits- you will get few wracking hits and many many barly hits additionlal to the damag reduction.
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Msgerbs
Gallente Imperial Assualt Guild
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Posted - 2008.09.20 01:57:00 -
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Ok, ok, you guys obviously never 0.0 ratted in a vex.
High: 3 Medium Neutron Blasters, 1 small Neutron Blaster (if can fit, optional), 1 Small Armor Repairer (For the drones)
Medium: 2 Small Cap Boosters with 200's, 1 10MN AB, 1 Web
Low: 1 Medium Armor Repairer, 3 Energized Adaptive Nano membrane (can be substituted for rat-specific hardners)
Drones: 5 Hobgoblins (For frigs), 1 Hobgoblin 2 hammerheads 2 ogres (Sounds idiotic but has the best possible DPS, better even than 5 T2 hammerheads)
Not exactly a perma-tank, but should last a while with a hold full of boosters. Orbiting as close as possible is extremely important however, as this cannot tank a battleship spawn forever.
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Windslip
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.20 03:11:00 -
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1.) Install MacPorts 2.) sudo port install wine 3.) ???? 4.) Profit!
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LadyLubU2
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.09.20 03:40:00 -
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Originally by: Msgerbs Ok, ok, you guys obviously never 0.0 ratted in a vex.
Medium: 2 Small Cap Boosters with 200's, 1 10MN AB, 1 Web
Obviously never ratted in a vex? One with 4 slots? Bet you have never boarded a vex before.
And, being in 0.0 its not a good plan on being dependent on capcharges. Try out something with a medium/large cap battery, and drop the blasters for small blasters/rails.
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Xori Ruscuv
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.09.20 04:43:00 -
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Originally by: Rudy Metallo I dont need just "Vexor, kthx" I need actual setups because I cant figure one out myself without doing a lot of math I'm too lazy to do.
My Raven was equipped with the following:
HIGH 06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I 01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1 01 x SALVAGER I
MEDIUM 04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS 01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM 01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER
LOW 01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL 01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I 01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I 02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I
DRONES 02 x WARRIOR I DRONES 03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES
UPGRADES 01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I 01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I 01 x HYDRAULIC BAY THRUSTER I
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Kaylaye
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.20 05:06:00 -
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I can't really tell if this is a serious post or not, but if so check out this link: Omen Setup
The last setup works well for cheap ratting. Has no trouble taking out double BS spawns.
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Rudy Metallo
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.09.20 05:11:00 -
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Ambrosius, get out of my thread if you're going to do nothing but flame me.
Same goes for the rest of you. I am not an ebayer, and am completely ****ing offended by such a preposition. I've been playing this game for 2 years, and you can do one of two things on this thread - give me a set up, preferably one that costs 10m or less, or you can tell me how to get EFT working on Leopard and shut up.
Of course I know how to set up a vexor for ratting. I have an enyo sitting in a station near a 0.0 fully t2 w/ a cloak, ready to go for ratting, but it takes too damn long to kill dual BS spawns. I could set up a cheap Vexor and go out to 0.0, and probably be fairly successful. But I usually find it useful to get a second opinion on these things, so I came to this forum, figuring that this would be the place to find it. Obviously, my attempt at some humor, by claiming I was "too lazy" to do the math was taken offensively by some people. If so, remove the sand from your vagina before speaking.
Maybe I should just pack up my bags and leave, if this is what Eve has devolved to. A bunch of uptight adolescents who can'y be helpful and can't take a joke. Sure as hell won't raise my ugly head in this forum again.
Peace. --
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Aravel Thon
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Posted - 2008.09.20 05:24:00 -
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Rudy,
This is the wrong game for you, go back to playing WoW
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Xori Ruscuv
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.09.20 05:25:00 -
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Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 20/09/2008 05:26:08
Originally by: Rudy Metallo Of course I know how to set up a vexor for ratting. I have an enyo sitting in a station near a 0.0 fully t2 w/ a cloak, ready to go for ratting, but it takes too damn long to kill dual BS spawns. I could set up a cheap Vexor and go out to 0.0, and probably be fairly successful.
Oh.
Then what was this for:
Originally by: Rudy Metallo I dont need just "Vexor, kthx" I need actual setups because I cant figure one out myself without doing a lot of math I'm too lazy to do.
??? 
Quote: Maybe I should just pack up my bags and leave, if this is what Eve has devolved to. A bunch of uptight adolescents who can'y be helpful and can't take a joke. Sure as hell won't raise my ugly head in this forum again.
Seems you were the first one on the offensive mate.
Quote: Maybe I should just pack up my bags and leave,............ Sure as hell won't raise my ugly head in this forum again.
Sounds 'bout right. Carry on. o7
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.09.20 05:26:00 -
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[Arbitrator: Serpentis hostile 0.0 no logistics ratter] Highs: 2x heavy pulse with gamma 1x small remote armor repper for patching up drones 1x salvager I for bs wrecks and opportunity t2 salvage at gates. Meds: 1x 10nm ab II 1x invul field or thermal hardner 2x large extender II Lows: 2x pds II 2x heatsink II Rigs: 2x anti-therm 1x anti-kinetic Drones: 5x hammer II 5x med ecm 5x warrior II 5x hobgoblin II
Kill off the support (except for one frig if your chaining and all of it if you want a better chance for a faction/officer spawn) and orbit at your pulses optimal under ab. Should easily tank even triple bs spawns moar than long enough to kill them off with a quick run to the ss and back if things get frisky to let the shield recharge a bit. If you keep an eagle eye on local and your drones then rep them when they get shot up you can effectively stay undocked in 0.0 for as long as you wish and rat away. You will only need to leave when your cargo gets filled with salvage and those certain high value loot items but a handy hauler alt on another account or even the same account will work wonders on endurance. 
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Fifi LeFume
Infestation. The Church.
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Posted - 2008.09.20 05:27:00 -
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You've been playing for 2 years, and you dont know how to fit a vexor for ratting. Im hoping in your two year playtime you've accumulated enough isk/knowledge to fly something more suitable for 0.0 ratting.
ive been playing for 1.25 years and ive got 20mil sp.
Stop being a **** and learn to play the game
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Xori Ruscuv
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.09.20 05:32:00 -
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Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 20/09/2008 05:34:26
Originally by: Fifi LeFume You've been playing for 2 years, and you dont know how to fit a vexor for ratting. Im hoping in your two year playtime you've accumulated enough isk/knowledge to fly something more suitable for 0.0 ratting.
Though to be fair, he might be trying to sneak into 0.0 for ninja ratting... I know I won't ninja rat in 0.0 in anything more than a cruiser :) I don't fancy getting my ass shot off in hostile territory flying something expensive in a pve fit and no friends around >,<
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Rudy Metallo
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.09.20 05:57:00 -
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Originally by: Xori Ruscuv Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 20/09/2008 05:26:08
Originally by: Rudy Metallo I dont need just "Vexor, kthx" I need actual setups because I cant figure one out myself without doing a lot of math I'm too lazy to do.
??? 
I like how you read all of the sentence. Is your ADD really that bad?
I would have had to gone through a lot of ****ing around with numbers, which I didnt want to do, and would probably mess up do to my utter failure when it comes to even the most simple math. I cant figure it out for myself because it would require ****ing around with numbers, not because I have no knowledge of how to set up a vexor. Go back to school and learn how to read a sentence before you try to write them.
Moving on, in terms of accumulating enough isk etc, I have 21m currently if you must know, because I have a bad habit of ****ing up while flying vagas. "Dont fly what you cant afford to lose" tends to be a rule I ignore, but I dont really care because for me its about having fun not about making sure I can fly toys around, although toys are nice.
I was on the offensive because, as I stated in my third post here, I was annoyed because I clearly stated that I needed setups in my first post, which was ignored, at least at first. I apologized for being curt, and got more flames in return for my apology. Now, excuse me for (what will be taken out of context and distorted into) my stupidity, but I see a gap in logic there.
Thanks for the arbitrator setup, sounds decent enough, may give it a try. --
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Lyta Reimalken
Minmatar No Fear Buccaneers
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Posted - 2008.09.20 07:33:00 -
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I ran a vexor ratting serps for ages. I went with:
4 electron blaster cannon IIs (the med electrons) Protocloak MWD 2 Large Shield Extenders 3 Magstabs + copro (for fitting) 2 therm shield rigs and 1 kin shield rig.
Its only a buffer rather than a tank, but i would mwd upto a battleship spawn, gank the hell out of them, then onto the next, never really had to think about warping out.
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