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Amayanna
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:28:00 -
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No seriously, think about this. Someone just got banned for saying something out of game. He did nothing that breached the EULA whilst playing.
Eve is real. |
XavierVE
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
141
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:29:00 -
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Courtesy of the EULA:
Quote:C. User Content The System may allow you to communicate information, such as by posting messages in chat rooms, on bulletin boards and other user-to-user areas (collectively, "User Content"). User Content that you cause to be communicated to the System may not (i) violate any statute, rule, regulation or law; (ii) infringe or violate the intellectual property, proprietary, privacy or publicity rights of any third party; (iii) be defamatory, indecent, obscene, child pornographic or harmful to minors;
Fanfest is a user-to-user area. It's a CCP event for EVE players broadcast by CCP to the EVE community via CCP's systems.
I was threatened with a ban for asking people to "boo" someone on the message board, that's not "in-game" either, but the EULA covers the usage of the message boards as part of the EVE ecosystem, which also covers EVE's fanfest.
And he's not at all the first person to be banned for something they did "outside of game." |
Jaqa
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:32:00 -
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I support this. The Original Jaqalope Pilot of the Transportosaurus Rex 100% Free Range |
Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:32:00 -
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dont u have to resign when they change the eula/tos? |
Headerman
Quovis CORE Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:33:00 -
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Amayanna wrote:No seriously, think about this. Someone just got banned for saying something out of game. He did nothing that breached the EULA whilst playing.
Eve is real.
I too believe in fairies and rainbow dash and all things wrong. The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |
Davor
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 02:06:00 -
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EVE is real life, just look at how all these pubs post. I'm pretty sure I violate the EULA several times a day in my life out of game, just having to drive in traffic alone has me yelling an in a rage. Gee I hope I don't get banned.
You should all delete your characters.
Yeah I said it
~Deal with it. |
PokupatelMax
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 02:18:00 -
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The problem I see is that this game is now going to go to **** because everyone will be filing petitions about someone saying something bad to them, that hurt their feelings and therefore has to be punished. So I am guessing no more high sec war decs. They make me upset and not want to play the game. CCP f..ed this one up. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
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Posted - 2012.03.29 02:20:00 -
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The EULA says CCP is responsible for reimbursing you for exactly **** all. So yes, you may apply the EULA to your phone situation. rembourcer ou vous ne pourez plus miner en paix !!-ánous n'aimons pas les pirate !!-áno rembource mi declare war for you |
Jergon McFace
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.03.29 02:24:00 -
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I love you do much. I mean, who else but you would still be so butthurt after getting kicked out of TEST almost a year ago. |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
426
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Posted - 2012.03.29 02:47:00 -
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he left it unattended just like when you eject a cargo can or eject from a ship and someone takes it
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Davor
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 02:47:00 -
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Test kicks people out? |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
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Posted - 2012.03.29 02:56:00 -
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DurrHurrDurr wrote:Someone stole my friend's phone. Can you reimburse him? He didn't have the proper roles in-game to access that phone.
Jr Bee, opinion, noted, documented, then promptly shredded...
Looking to stamp out apiphobia in my lifetime..... |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong White-Lotus
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:17:00 -
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it always was....
Something like this has never happen before at fanfest. You people are acting like what he did was part of normal culture of the game that is eve, but that doesn't make sense. If that was true, then why is this the very 1st time the rule was broken? Something that what he said is UNCALLED OF, for a game like eve.
It's just a game, you don't hate the other person in real life. even if you hate his character. |
Anya Klibor
Error-404
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:50:00 -
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Raptor217 wrote:Apollo-Moor wrote:Raptor217 wrote:Kaz Urik wrote:Infinimo wrote:http://i.imgur.com/8q5Pt.jpg Put yourself in CCP's shoes. Do you allow the guy who 25% of all votes to continue to hold his position in the CSM at the expense of possible lost revenue due to bad press? Cyber bullying is a MAJOR issue in the US right now as such CCP will have to do everything it can to protect its bottom line even if it is against what the users of their product want. Unless, of course, the users can make that the bigger revenue loss. Since you decided to put on the serious pants I guess I will too. Trolls ingame do this kind of stuff all the time. Hell, I've gotten death threats from people I've scammed. But they didn't get 30 day bans.... Now. I don't condone asking someone to kill themselves because that's flat out wrong. But, I know far too many people who would take enjoyment out of trolling someone into thinking their suicidal. So you then realize why Mitanni had to be banned or removed from CSM. You yourself said that telling someone to off themselves is bad taste... I agree Bad taste yes. even he agrees that it was in bad taste. Now I don't know what CCP was expecting to get out of a live - drunk - mittani. He wasn't going to be church clean. Now, that was all in person, violating an ingame EULA. Last I checked, the EVE EULA doesn't apply to everywhere else I go....
Honestly, no one would have cared had the gaming press not been involved. But with Monoclegate still on everyone's mind, the threadnaughts that came with it, they can't afford the bad press this would have given them. |
Demon Azrakel
Bite Me inc Exhale.
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:55:00 -
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Kaz Urik wrote:Infinimo wrote:http://i.imgur.com/8q5Pt.jpg Put yourself in CCP's shoes. Do you allow the guy who *received* 25% of all votes to continue to hold his position in the CSM at the expense of possible lost revenue due to bad press? Cyber bullying is a MAJOR issue in the US right now as such CCP will have to do everything it can to protect its bottom line even if it is against what the users of their product want. Unless, of course, the users can make that the bigger revenue loss.
From what people are saying, the dude is a ******* 37-year-old. No one should be immune to ridicule and contempt for their actions in EVE, nor for their attempt to bring their own ****** life into EVE. In every post scam/gank conversation you have in EVE, you will usually assume that someone is lying for pity or to make you feel bad. |
Demon Azrakel
Bite Me inc Exhale.
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:56:00 -
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Raptor217 wrote:Kaz Urik wrote:Infinimo wrote:http://i.imgur.com/8q5Pt.jpg Put yourself in CCP's shoes. Do you allow the guy who 25% of all votes to continue to hold his position in the CSM at the expense of possible lost revenue due to bad press? Cyber bullying is a MAJOR issue in the US right now as such CCP will have to do everything it can to protect its bottom line even if it is against what the users of their product want. Unless, of course, the users can make that the bigger revenue loss. Since you decided to put on the serious pants I guess I will too. Trolls ingame do this kind of stuff all the time. Hell, I've gotten death threats from people I've scammed. But they didn't get 30 day bans.... Now. I don't condone asking someone to kill themselves because that's flat out wrong. But, I know far too many people who would take enjoyment out of trolling someone into thinking their suicidal.
Time to start petitioning and see if CCP applies the EULA properly if it is not in public and not a controversial figure... |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:58:00 -
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MotherMoon wrote:it always was....
Something like this has never happen before at fanfest. You people are acting like what he did was part of normal culture of the game that is eve, but that doesn't make sense. If that was true, then why is this the very 1st time the rule was broken? Something that what he said is UNCALLED OF, for a game like eve.
It's just a game, you don't hate the other person in real life. even if you hate his character.
A few of us have entire folders of death threats saved up. I'm pretty sure the petition function is being put under a "Stress Test" right now. |
Demon Azrakel
Bite Me inc Exhale.
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:59:00 -
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Burseg Sardaukar wrote:Honestly this does make me question whether I'll make it next year. I like to mock people I've scammed and tell glorious stories of grief and ragemails, especially in person.
Not sure if I want to risk an in-game ban for laughing at some poor soul I griefed into ragequitting (life?).
You are good as long as you don't actually tell him to go through with it. It may be in bad taste to wait until you complete the scam to send the petition to CCP telling them the dude is suicidal, but you will probably get away with it. |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:20:00 -
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Would you rather have criminal laws apply than ToS/EULA?
Encouraging suicide in itself is equated with assisted suicide according to recent rulings in various courts in the western world, so unless you are a medical doctor living in one of the very few countries where such practices are legal you can be found guilty of murder/manslaughter. Encouraging others to drive a person to suicide ........ I don't even want to think what the legal system would do for that ...
He got off insanely easy, thirty days is nothing (hell, even a perma-ban is nothing these days) and the chair is not that important since it will still be held by null to further the agenda of null. Chair/CSM was a bit of ego, but by my estimation he has some to spare.
Biggest shame is that the 10k extra votes in this years election have just been Nullified making it the worst election to date .. |
Amity Lane
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:28:00 -
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum
Nothing to see here, folks. |
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Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 05:08:00 -
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My car just broke down. Do I file a petition under "STUCK"? That which does not kill you, makes you stronger.-á Friedrich Nietzsche
That which does not kill you, hurts like hell.-á UNKNOWN |
DurrHurrDurr
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:37:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:he left it unattended just like when you eject a cargo can or eject from a ship and someone takes it
So does this mean that the thief has an aggression timer now? Can he go hit him? |
Fats Corpulento
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 21:02:00 -
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Amity Lane wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum
Nothing to see here, folks.
Yes, reductio ad absurdum is exactly like when you hold someone to the same standards they hold you to |
Danfen Fenix
Vita Aequitas Veritas The Paganism Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.29 21:04:00 -
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I believe the OP...is already covered by a little thing called the law?
If i'm reading it right |
Tyrone Cashmoney
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.30 14:18:00 -
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Danfen Fenix wrote:I believe the OP...is already covered by a little thing called the law? If i'm reading it right The law? What is that? Is this going to be the replacement of CONCORD?
Please reply promptly this is an important matter |
Townsend Harris
The Milkmen Test Alliance Please Ignore
112
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Posted - 2012.03.30 14:47:00 -
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Didn't IT alliance and company threaten to punch goons at fanfest 2011? |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
572
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Posted - 2012.03.30 14:55:00 -
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Raptor217 wrote:But, I know far too many people who would take enjoyment out of trolling someone into thinking their suicidal.
Find better friends
PS: looking at the post above, you are right, you have plenty of friends who think that is funny. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
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