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YourDaddi
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Posted - 2008.09.23 16:25:00 -
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Titan Countermeasures
1.Increase activation timer from 15 seconds to 60 seconds.
2.Display on screen a warming message with voice saying "warning! A doomsday device has been activiated" repeats twice.
3.Create a timer screen down by the autopilot, cargo hold area as a circle thats appears with a countdown timer in the middle. 1 & 2 would allow players to "get out of the way".
3.Create a new ship. Massive hitpoints and resistances with one high slot for a Titan tackle mod with no other slots. Create a mod just for this ship. This would not replace the heavy dictor as they have many slots are are multipurpose. Allow them to still be able to tackle a titan.
4.Create a Titan buy back option. Set a fair price for CCP to buy back Titans incase the pilots complain about the changes. This will allow the pilot to buy a MOM, or other captial.
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BlueMajere
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Posted - 2008.09.23 16:34:00 -
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this is the worst idea i have ever seen, pretty much ever
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Sidus Isaacs
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Posted - 2008.09.23 16:36:00 -
[3]
Titans are not that bohtersome, really.
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arbalesttom
Caldari
Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.23 16:37:00 -
[4]
 Originally by: BlueMajere
this is the worst idea i have ever seen, pretty much ever
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
That is a JoJo, a forum troll used by Amarr whiners.
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Bronson Hughes
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
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Posted - 2008.09.23 16:39:00 -
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#1, #3-#5 are horrible ideas.
#2 may not be a horrible idea; it would give some visual notification of a DD activating without effects being on so it could help with lag somewhat. But I would hardly call it any sort of countermeasure.
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Jenney
Federal Noob Mercs
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Posted - 2008.09.23 16:45:00 -
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Titan Fix
The problem with titans is that they kill every thing in seconds after it take you hours to get that battle to start in the 1st place making them no fun for both sides. 
So change the Dooms day device in to a super Siege Module
The siege mod would give the guns extra fire power but unlike a dread much BETTER tracking so that they can kill BS and BC easy also gives the titan super tanking power so it can stand up to 100 dreads for a bit, and let it be remote tanked by friendly carriers.
This way you would get longer battles and a titan is still very good at killing fleets and not so all or nothing as it is now 
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Bean Doodle
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.09.23 17:02:00 -
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That is a bloody AWFUL idea.
Give Titans an upkeep-cost.
Not something that can be mined, but something you gotta buy from NPC-markets.
A pure isk-sink in other words.
And make it ****ing HIGH! So people will think twice before building a fleet of Titans instead of using the one they have more efficiently.
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arbalesttom
Caldari
Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.23 17:28:00 -
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You really think a big isksink is going to be a problem for alliances that can field 10 titans with ease?
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
That is a JoJo, a forum troll used by Amarr whiners.
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Xanos Blackpaw
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2008.09.23 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: arbalesttom
You really think a big isksink is going to be a problem for alliances that can field 10 titans with ease?
...if it was something like 10 bilion a week then yes...
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Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.23 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw
Originally by: arbalesttom
You really think a big isksink is going to be a problem for alliances that can field 10 titans with ease?
...if it was something like 10 bilion a week then yes...
Maybe there can be an option to "powerdown" a titan where it cannot be locked or boarded and does not require n upkeep cost. But to power it up again you need 48 hours?
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Highwind Cid
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Posted - 2008.09.23 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: YourDaddi
2.Display on screen a warming message with voice saying "warning! A doomsday device has been activiated" repeats twice.
I like my messages cold personally. Eve is harsh and cold.
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Caffeine Junkie
I.M.M
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Posted - 2008.09.23 17:42:00 -
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Fail.
There are many places in this game where battles are fought and won, EFT isn't one of them. |
Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.09.23 17:44:00 -
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The best thing about this idea is : there is two #3
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Highwind Cid
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Posted - 2008.09.23 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jenney
Titan Fix
The problem with titans is that they kill every thing in seconds after it take you hours to get that battle to start in the 1st place making them no fun for both sides.
So change the Dooms day device in to a super Siege Module
The siege mod would give the guns extra fire power but unlike a dread much BETTER tracking so that they can kill BS and BC easy also gives the titan super tanking power so it can stand up to 100 dreads for a bit, and let it be remote tanked by friendly carriers.
This way you would get longer battles and a titan is still very good at killing fleets and not so all or nothing as it is now
..and then you woke up.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.23 17:52:00 -
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Fix lag, and titans will be alot less fearsome.
Originally by: BiggestT
the wyvern is the single hottest cap ship in existence.
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Minmatar Citizen 20080822
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Posted - 2008.09.23 17:53:00 -
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1. Come up with stupid ideas.
2. Post them on the forums.
3. Have everyone laught at you.
3. ????
4. PROFIT!
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Akuma Tsukai
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.23 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Trevor Warps
The best thing about this idea is : there is two #3
quoted due to being so awesome.
Also i honestly didnt know titans are broken 
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Kinsei Isamu
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Posted - 2008.09.23 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: BlueMajere
this is the worst idea i have ever seen, pretty much ever
I saw someone say the falcon needed a buff 
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Isaac Starstriker
Amarr Sisterhood of Galactic Sirens
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Posted - 2008.09.23 18:21:00 -
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This idea fails so badly...I'm just laughing at how badly it is. No no and no. I've heard a lot better suggestions than this.
--Isaac
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.09.23 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: BlueMajere
this is the worst idea i have ever seen, pretty much ever
this is one of the the best first posts i have ever seen, after "dude... your face"
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Originally by: Arthur Frayn
How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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Caffeine Junkie
I.M.M
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Posted - 2008.09.23 18:25:00 -
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Edited by: Caffeine Junkie on 23/09/2008 18:25:55
Originally by: Minmatar Citizen 20080822
0. Get DDD'd and annoyed
1. Come up with stupid ideas.
2. Post them on the forums.
3. Have everyone laught at you.
3. Post with an alt
4. PROFIT!
I fixed your post!
There are many places in this game where battles are fought and won, EFT isn't one of them. |
Gimpb
Sturmgrenadier Inc
Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2008.09.23 18:59:00 -
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As one of the few mechanics fighting blob size, the DD itself shouldn't get nerfed imo.
It would be nice if titans were less about blow your wad and hide though. A module allowing a capital to tackle a super cap might be a good idea.
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Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.09.23 19:13:00 -
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Per the ISK Sink idea and it's detractors:
Let's face it - if you make the upkeep HIGH enough it WILL damage an alliance's economy. Sure, 50 million isk per day is laughable, mined by a single person in the space of an hour. But if you make that cost something absolutely STAGGERING say a billion isk a day then you have an impact.
The downside is this cripples the ability of a smaller alliance to own one in the first place and makes it so that ONLY the largest, best resourced alliances can even think about keeping their titans intact.
If the goal is remove the titan from the game as a "common" 0.0 warfare element, raising the associated costs tremendously would be a place to start. There is no reason a doomsday device firing should be anything but exhorbinantly expensive when you consider just how much damage a well placed DD can cause.
But, in all reality I think there are lots of ways to "fix" the percieved problem with the Titan. Afterall, the problem isn't the titan - it's just a delivery mechanism for a Doomsday Device. The problem is, as such the doomsday device itself. There are a dozen or more suggestions on fixing this little problem, some of the solutions are reasonable, some are just stupid. Most of them fundamentally change the effect a Titan can have on a battlefield.
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp
INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.09.23 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Caffeine Junkie
Edited by: Caffeine Junkie on 23/09/2008 18:25:55
Originally by: Minmatar Citizen 20080822
0. Get DDD'd and annoyed
1. Come up with stupid ideas.
2. Post them on the forums.
3. Have everyone laught at you.
3. Post with an alt
4. PROFIT!
I fixed your post!
QFT
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Originally by: CCP Oveur
...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
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Orion GUardian
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.23 21:01:00 -
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I have seen far better ideas....fail troll has failed
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Zenst
Gallente
Omniscient Order
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.09.23 21:30:00 -
[26]
Originally by: BlueMajere
this is the worst idea i have ever seen, pretty much ever
QFT
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Lord WarATron
Amarr
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.23 21:37:00 -
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Dunno whats worse. The Troll OP, or the people who think the troll is actually serious
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Jenney
Federal Noob Mercs
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Posted - 2008.09.23 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: Bean Doodle
That is a bloody AWFUL idea.
Give Titans an upkeep-cost.
Not something that can be mined, but something you gotta buy from NPC-markets.
A pure isk-sink in other words.
And make it ****ing HIGH! So people will think twice before building a fleet of Titans instead of using the one they have more efficiently.
Thats a good idea but it should also work like a stacking nerf for the alliance/corp were each new titan they get pushes up the cost of running them, just like haveing 10 wars going at once the more you have the more each new one will cost. This way smaller allances dont get totaly locked out of geting super caps just cos 10bn/week is nothing to bob or aaa 
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Highwind Cid
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Posted - 2008.09.24 15:18:00 -
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Edited by: Highwind Cid on 24/09/2008 15:20:30
I think I have a decent idea. How about a module that doesn't allow the activation of the DDD? It can have a wide area of effect say up to 100km from the ships hull. Of course its grid usage may need some adjustment or possibly maybe only special ships can equip it? I've never seen a titan in action but I hear its in and out. This will make it stick around or just plain leave without using its DDD.
*edit* This and maybe with a short 2 minute warning of a 'DD activation in t-minus 2 minutes' This will raise the stakes for the titan team and the people to bring a counter measure in.
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Major PewPew
The Dark Horses
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Posted - 2008.09.24 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Titans are not that bohtersome, really.
while the OP isnt that great, your assumption that Titans aren't a problem shows how incredibly ignorant you are.
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