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Haks'he Lirky
Burning Bright Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.24 22:22:00 -
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This might go over your head, but what is the purchasing power of the dollar in the us vs the purchasing power of the euro in europe?
Once you have considered that you are truly gonna blow a faucet.
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Paige Turner
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Posted - 2008.09.24 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Haks'he Lirky This might go over your head, but what is the purchasing power of the dollar in the us vs the purchasing power of the euro in europe?
Once you have considered that you are truly gonna blow a faucet.
Purchasing power FTW
Try to think up a list of everyday items that everyone uses...
How many Euros does a loaf of bread cost? Milk? Eggs? A liter of bottled water? How about a Big Mac?
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Haks'he Lirky
Burning Bright Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.24 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Paige Turner
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky This might go over your head, but what is the purchasing power of the dollar in the us vs the purchasing power of the euro in europe?
Once you have considered that you are truly gonna blow a faucet.
Purchasing power FTW
Try to think up a list of everyday items that everyone uses...
How many Euros does a loaf of bread cost? Milk? Eggs? A liter of bottled water? How about a Big Mac?
Try fuel :)
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Haks'he Lirky
Burning Bright Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.24 23:15:00 -
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But it is pretty simple.
If you consider how much a person living with the dollar is "sacrificing" when buying a subscription to EVE online compared to a person using the euro then the person using the dollar is sacrificing a larger amount of purchasing power.
A person versed in economics might be able to tell you more, but this is the simple truth of it in my eyes.
You might take it farther and compare salaries between the two continents, compare sick days, compare vacation days and so on. In the end the purchasing power an average person in Europe is expending when buying a month of EVE online is less than the purchasing power expended by a person in the US.
Value is value of course, but if you are worried about paying more than the guy from the US then you need to look at all the facts.
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Moon Kitten
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.09.24 23:35:00 -
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Edited by: Moon Kitten on 24/09/2008 23:35:53 As a European consumer these excuses about purchasing power is irrelevant. The economy is now global, especially when it comes to software and online services. What matters is that I am paying twice as much for the same service as others.
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5pinDizzy
Amarr Umpteenth Podding
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Posted - 2008.09.24 23:37:00 -
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Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 24/09/2008 23:40:42
Looking at the absurd Euro price I think it's actually just cheaper for us Europeans to just continue paying for GTC's in dollars is it not?
To clarify, I don't think this offer is even cost effective if you can't pay for it in dollars.
Someone feel like posting the maths?
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Raving Gerbil
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Posted - 2008.09.25 00:13:00 -
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Edited by: Raving Gerbil on 25/09/2008 00:14:34 $34.99 for 2 months time code @ shattered crystal
$104.97 For 6 months, in 3 timecodes = 71.67 Euros = 56.70 GBP
They should really let Englanderlanders pay in POUNDS CAUSE THEY DONT USE THE CRAP EURO
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ShardowRhino
Caldari Legion 0f The Damned
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Posted - 2008.09.25 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Monster Edited by: Metal Monster on 24/09/2008 17:42:48 For USA 49.95$ and same for 49.95Ç Europe. Are you guys at ccp out of mind or ?
Lemme calculate for you:
49.95 USD = 34.0638 EUR 49.95 EUR = 73.2135 USD
1 USD = 0.681958 EUR 1 EUR = 1.46636 USD
So... Americans have to pay less and they can play same ammount as we from Europe ? I dont agree with this action. I wont pay 49.95Ç becouse some one can pay less and play same ammount like me.
Edit: A Bit more respect to Europe, not everthing is USA.
Instead of crying over the obvious, how bout just flying over here and spending your euros? I know the Japanese tourists come here and buy a lot of expensive clothes and such that they would pay a lot more for in Japan.
The reason is that its not based off of what is "fair" its about what people can afford to pay. The Japanese can afford expensive handbags at the rate the company charges. Its all scaled to the affordability of the consumer in each specific market. People here in the U.S. like to go down to Mexico for cheap vacations and come back with stuff they bought on the cheap. Alcohol being one of the biggest attractions.
IF those of us in the U.S. were to have to pay the same as Euros, we wouldn't be playing. The game would be far to expensive when compared to other MMOs. Wow,EQ2 and others would have a few more subs lining their pockets while CCP effectively cut a large number of players possible.
I heard about a friend going to europe and not wanting to stay to long because everything is expensive over there. Seriously why would i want to go there and pay $30 for an average lunch when I can drop $5 and get a tastey foot long sub over here?? you can keep your fried snails.
EDIT: Maybe they would respect europe a bit more if you bought yourself some common sense.
as for the guy saying we would cry freedom tears, actually we would just toss your game overboard,start our own and see swarms of europeans flock to it.
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mishkof
Caldari Dirty Denizens
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Posted - 2008.09.25 00:36:00 -
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And yet Europeans still pay and get fleeced over, how sad. Maybe 15 U.S dollars is all eve is really worth. I dont think it is Americans you should be whining about. I would take a look at your greedy corporate infrastructure (always wanted to say that to a bunch of Euros)
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5pinDizzy
Amarr Umpteenth Podding
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Posted - 2008.09.25 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: Raving Gerbil Edited by: Raving Gerbil on 25/09/2008 00:14:34 $34.99 for 2 months time code @ shattered crystal
$104.97 For 6 months, in 3 timecodes = 71.67 Euros = 56.70 GBP
They should really let Englanderlanders pay in POUNDS CAUSE THEY DONT USE THE CRAP EURO
Ah so it is still worth it?
Looks like a saving of around ú18, even if us engerlanderers have to pay in euros.
I forget the price of GTC's had gone up steeply and 3x 60 days is the only way to do it.
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M'kie Zeletta
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Posted - 2008.09.25 01:48:00 -
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Edited by: M''kie Zeletta on 25/09/2008 01:49:17 Edited by: M''kie Zeletta on 25/09/2008 01:48:32 So following this logic, I assume everyone would be happy if people from the poorer countries, such as kenya, were allowed to pay 50 cents for a months subscription as the average way is nowhere near that of the average American?
Its unfair to charge Europeans more because they have more, dont increase the price in America (as that would drive them away), just reduce the price for europeans.
Everyone should pay the same, no matter where they are from.
*spelling edit
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M'kie Zeletta
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Posted - 2008.09.25 01:53:00 -
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Communism?
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MidnightMartyr
Gallente Chowabunga Inc. Ascendo-Tuum
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Posted - 2008.09.25 02:16:00 -
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Edited by: MidnightMartyr on 25/09/2008 02:19:34 Trolls belong under the bridge m8.
Edit: Also, our economy is going down the tubes, so we're HAVING less money to spend. (Crackpot theory is based on my limited knowledge of economics and therefor may be false. Trolls still belong under their respective bridges.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.09.25 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Monster Edited by: Metal Monster on 24/09/2008 18:50:50 MotherMoon:
Why woud i need to answer to everthing ? Your e-pen is really strong i wont argue. Keep it up forum warrior.
Edit: Ehehe it is funny. I'm ****ing people off by writing a topic ? Are you guys felling ok ?
I have no opinion on the topic at hand. I've posted in these threads before and have nothig to add.
but if you say "no your wrong" to someone and don't explain why then it's becuase you have to reason and that just ****es people off.
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Stormwind Bloodfeather
Minmatar Sogdian Traders Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.25 03:00:00 -
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Originally by: CopyCatz
Originally by: Ferocious FeAr I don't come online to relive tragic American events. Why don't you leave the comments at home, it serves no purpose in this forum. I just get livid at the fact that Europeans always seem to have a comment about countries where they don't reside in.
Let's end it at that.
I'm getting so fed up with obnoxious responses from americans like inhere. If goons are making fun of jews and muslims it's ok, but at the first hint of 9/11 humor in the cemetary thread goons need to be banned. Now it's the exchange rates again and we europeans shouldn't whine. Well I can only take comfort in the fact that you will be paying 3000 dollars over the next years to repair the mess your country is in.
Thank you for caring about your fellow man. Lets be blunt. The only reason nobody has put a bullet through Bush's head is they are more afraid of Cheney. If we had a sane vice prez, Bush would never have stolen the presidency twice. Hell he wouldn't have made it a year into the first stolen term.
Stormwind
In EVE, your only friend is your ship and it's weapons. All others are the enemy! |
M'kie Zeletta
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Posted - 2008.09.25 03:01:00 -
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Originally by: M'kie Zeletta
Everyone should pay the same, no matter where they are from.
Is that wrong?
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Celin Nieve
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Posted - 2008.09.25 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1 Alot of people in europe cant figure out why the richest country in the world is so poor
it started when republican's voted some crooks into the office and went downhill from there ...
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Paramite Pies
Minmatar Kasrkin Innovative Assembly
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Posted - 2008.09.25 03:11:00 -
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For the record, I am NOT proud to be an American. __________________ Signature currently offline, until I find good content. |
Korizan
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Posted - 2008.09.25 03:12:00 -
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WOW this thing is still going on I thought it would be buried by now.
But
Everyone should be billed in ISK. ISK in game and ISK out of game now that would be justice
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Celin Nieve
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Posted - 2008.09.25 03:13:00 -
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Because whoever did CCP's financial analysis figured that you europeans won't be quitting the game over the issue and CCP can make more money since US dollar is so weak.
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Stormwind Bloodfeather
Minmatar Sogdian Traders Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.25 03:13:00 -
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Originally by: Paramite Pies For the record, I am NOT proud to be an American.
I am proud to be American, I just detest the Government. I firmly believe we should .302 the entire lot and start from scratch.
Storm
In EVE, your only friend is your ship and it's weapons. All others are the enemy! |
Rodanine
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.09.25 03:14:00 -
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based on the number of threads about the obvious disparity in the value of ones currency i just realized why they have come up everyone in the European union must earn American dollars and forced to covert it to the euro. otherwise the argument is rather a moot point.
That is the only conclusion i can come too based on the number of complaint threads i have seen on this subject. i Mean if an American worker earns only 8 dollars per hour for hiss job and an European worker with the same job is making 8 euros an hour should we cut the pay of the European worker so hes in line with the American or raise the pay of the American worker to be in line of what the European worker makes? -- yes this is an alt get over it |
Shardrael
Caldari Titan Industries Technology Team Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.09.25 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: CopyCatz
Originally by: Ferocious FeAr I don't come online to relive tragic American events. Why don't you leave the comments at home, it serves no purpose in this forum. I just get livid at the fact that Europeans always seem to have a comment about countries where they don't reside in.
Let's end it at that.
I'm getting so fed up with obnoxious responses from americans like inhere. If goons are making fun of jews and muslims it's ok, but at the first hint of 9/11 humor in the cemetary thread goons need to be banned. Now it's the exchange rates again and we europeans shouldn't whine. Well I can only take comfort in the fact that you will be paying 3000 dollars over the next years to repair the mess your country is in.
your ignorance is ******* staggering.
you can whine all you want but it doesnt mean that because some other country is about to have a total financial collapse they would charge your country any less. The reasoning for this is pretty simple, if ccp kept up with exchange rates alot of US customers would either chose not to keep playing or no longer have enough money to pay for their accounts. In this case ccp will lose a great deal of business. So they can either lose more of their american playerbase or take less money to keep them as customers.
As for your taking joy that all of america is going broke and in a financial collapse, just remember that although this is an american problem because our corrupt politicians and government has their fingers in everything when ours goes so to does the european banking systems. So next time you wish ill will on a bunch of people you have no interaction with whatsoever besides internet spaceships and some news articles, everything can come around to you just as easily as it is to whoever you are looking at.
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Stormwind Bloodfeather
Minmatar Sogdian Traders Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.25 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: Shardrael
Originally by: CopyCatz
Originally by: Ferocious FeAr I don't come online to relive tragic American events. Why don't you leave the comments at home, it serves no purpose in this forum. I just get livid at the fact that Europeans always seem to have a comment about countries where they don't reside in.
Let's end it at that.
I'm getting so fed up with obnoxious responses from americans like inhere. If goons are making fun of jews and muslims it's ok, but at the first hint of 9/11 humor in the cemetary thread goons need to be banned. Now it's the exchange rates again and we europeans shouldn't whine. Well I can only take comfort in the fact that you will be paying 3000 dollars over the next years to repair the mess your country is in.
your ignorance is ******* staggering.
you can whine all you want but it doesnt mean that because some other country is about to have a total financial collapse they would charge your country any less. The reasoning for this is pretty simple, if ccp kept up with exchange rates alot of US customers would either chose not to keep playing or no longer have enough money to pay for their accounts. In this case ccp will lose a great deal of business. So they can either lose more of their american playerbase or take less money to keep them as customers.
As for your taking joy that all of america is going broke and in a financial collapse, just remember that although this is an american problem because our corrupt politicians and government has their fingers in everything when ours goes so to does the european banking systems. So next time you wish ill will on a bunch of people you have no interaction with whatsoever besides internet spaceships and some news articles, everything can come around to you just as easily as it is to whoever you are looking at.
Just to stress this some for those who doubt. WHEN (not if) the American economy finally breaks it's tank, you can rest assured it's failure will cause a cascade effect on ALL economies around the world. Laugh and doubt all you want. America is the greatest CONSUMER economy in the world. we go, you go with us shortly after. Watch what you wish for on others, it may come round and bite you in the ass as well.
Stormwind
In EVE, your only friend is your ship and it's weapons. All others are the enemy! |
Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.25 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Monster Edited by: Metal Monster on 24/09/2008 17:42:48 For USA 49.95$ and same for 49.95Ç Europe. Are you guys at ccp out of mind or ?
Lemme calculate for you:
49.95 USD = 34.0638 EUR 49.95 EUR = 73.2135 USD
1 USD = 0.681958 EUR 1 EUR = 1.46636 USD
So... Americans have to pay less and they can play same ammount as we from Europe ? I dont agree with this action. I wont pay 49.95Ç becouse some one can pay less and play same ammount like me.
Edit: A Bit more respect to Europe, not everthing is USA.
The reason this is so is because CCP hates you. Look into your paranoid little heart, you know its true....
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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Joe Free
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Posted - 2008.09.25 03:26:00 -
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I don't care about the whining over the rates - when this game starts charging more then I am willing to pay I will just quit, until then I pay and play, period. What I do care about is my country - "I am proud to be an American" and better Bush then those stupid rip offs, I think they called democrates or some such, you know the ones that want to take all your pay with taxs and give it to other people - ex. most of them are called special interest groups, another ex. of the ones that do all the whining and get to live off of other peoples work.
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Stormwind Bloodfeather
Minmatar Sogdian Traders Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.25 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Free I don't care about the whining over the rates - when this game starts charging more then I am willing to pay I will just quit, until then I pay and play, period. What I do care about is my country - "I am proud to be an American" and better Bush then those stupid rip offs, I think they called democrates or some such, you know the ones that want to take all your pay with taxs and give it to other people - ex. most of them are called special interest groups, another ex. of the ones that do all the whining and get to live off of other peoples work.
hmm ok so better someone who is systematically destroying our economy, adding trillions of dollars of unpayable dept, ruining our world relations and killing off young men and women for oil than people who want to make the world a better place to live for everyone?
Did I get that right?
Let me guess, you have stock in the Oil Companies right? Or maybe mommy and daddy is a ******ican so you are as well?
I'm not a Democrat by any stretch, but if your so blind you can't see the harm Bush and his oil buddies have done to this country, your a ****ing ******.
Storm
hmmm In EVE, your only friend is your ship and it's weapons. All others are the enemy! |
Korizan
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Posted - 2008.09.25 03:50:00 -
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Well as this thread has gotten totally out of hand I might as well get serious for a minute.
IF you all would just wake up and or spend a some time in other countries and actually see and understand what is going on. Everyone has there share of problems, slums, robbers, morgages to pay, jobs they struggle through to make a living.
We are essentially all in the same boat and deal with the same issues. And you all choose to bicker like a bunch of three year olds with zero perspective. And the best part this is not about food or something you need to survive. This is over a luxury item, a game , just a game
And this whole thread is over what a couple of euro's or dollars. Does it really matter ?
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Stormwind Bloodfeather
Minmatar Sogdian Traders Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.25 03:56:00 -
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Originally by: Korizan Well as this thread has gotten totally out of hand I might as well get serious for a minute.
IF you all would just wake up and or spend a some time in other countries and actually see and understand what is going on. Everyone has there share of problems, slums, robbers, morgages to pay, jobs they struggle through to make a living.
We are essentially all in the same boat and deal with the same issues. And you all choose to bicker like a bunch of three year olds with zero perspective. And the best part this is not about food or something you need to survive. This is over a luxury item, a game , just a game
And this whole thread is over what a couple of euro's or dollars. Does it really matter ?
Ultimatly? Not a damn bit. 07 for adding perspective.
Storm
In EVE, your only friend is your ship and it's weapons. All others are the enemy! |
Undocumented worker
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Posted - 2008.09.25 06:34:00 -
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I'm proud to be an "American"
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