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Proclus Diadochu
Obstergo
Persona Non Gratis
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:52:00 -
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It sorta is...
TL;DR - CCP violated their own policies to punish a player for apparently violating their own polices.
Before you lock this thread, CCP, you did say in your DEVBLOG that this was a 'special case', even making your own thread about The Mittani's ban. So I do not believe I am violating any policies regarding posting on the subject of "individual bans". I do believe, however, that this "special case" does bring to the surface a number of questions. (Also side note: You may ask why this is in CAOD, CCP, well it's because you just banned arguably the most influential leader in the game. He is referred to as the 'king of space' and this ban may or may not have repercussions in game. Probably won't but gives this enough reason to put it in here. Could just post it on SA, Reddit, K***, send it to Riverini for EN24, and some other gaming magazines to raise more questions, but lets see how it is received here first and give CCP a chance.)
What made this a "special case", CCP? Was it the fact that an alliance leader made an off-color remark during a panel at fanfest or the fact that it was posted by one of your employees on the internet causing a media frenzy? Regarding the off-color remark made by the player. A) It was not made within the realm of the EVE Online universe, B) This one is more a question: Did you make Mittens or any of the other members of the panel sign a waiver stating that what they said out of game could have in game consequences? Doubt it, and C) J+ñger was involved. Mittens sincerely apologized to the player, the community, the media, and even stepped down as CSM chair. Subjectively speaking, I do not believe that the step down was even necessary, as everyone makes mistakes, and honestly that comment held no real sway outside of the ridiculousness that was created by the gaming community and a couple of less popular CSM members who's questionable moral fiber should be reviewed by CCP as well if this is the direction of your company.
Now the "special case". What you did here, CCP, is create what we like to call in the educated world a "double standard". There have been numerous occasions that you have told my friends, players, and myself that you could not discuss bans of individual members, yet you publish this one in a DEVBLOG and create a thread to further embarrass a player for an out of game action. You violated your own policy to punish a player for violating a policy. You see what you did there?
However, since we are in the mood for breaking rules, letGÇÖs discuss something else. What did CCP do to punish the DEVS that were in the room during the panel? The ones that thanked everyone, laughed and enjoyed the festivities as opposed to reprimanding Mittani and browbeating him on the spot when the "violation" occurred. What about the CCP member that published the video on the web for the mass media to eat up and stir more drama? You violate policies to punish and embarrass players, now please account for what other measures you have done to clean your precious corporate name?
Personally, I believe after the hoops that CCP, the community at large, the media, and I am sure himself made The Mittani jump through, and the step down from CSM Chair, he has been punished enough. You guys seem to forget that The Mittani did lead the most successful CSM to date, helping your company quite a bit. I believe you should either reinstate his account and apologize for further embarrassing the player and apologize to the community for violating your own rules, or continue to make poor decisions and see this start another issue. Who is going to care about what the gaming media thinks of EVE Online if no one is there to play the game, CCP?
I would like to know, along with at least 10,068 other players. Thanks...
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Neo Agricola
BLACK-MARK
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Posted - 2012.03.29 09:09:00 -
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Proclus Diadochu wrote:It sorta is...
TL;DR - CCP violated their own policies to punish a player for apparently violating their own policies.
...I would like to know, along with at least 10,068 other players. Thanks...
+1
as I said bevor:
CCP please explain how a Out of Game comment is a "clear violation of our Terms of Service" ?
I know they will not answer because of "The policy of CCP is not to publicly discuss warnings and bans on an individual basis" aka: "we dont know how to explain it otherwise"
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Ivana Twinkle
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 11:52:00 -
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Well mittens sure is "special" |
Azran Zala
Sicarius.
When Hippos Attack
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Posted - 2012.03.29 20:18:00 -
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Good OP +1
"This Wiz dood has pulled off one of the most successfull trolls in eve history."
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Joepopo
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
24
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Posted - 2012.03.30 00:10:00 -
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Azran Zala wrote:Good OP +1
"This Wiz dood has pulled off one of the most successfull trolls in eve history."
It is THE WIS with a S, not a Z.
If you gank THE WIZ, he may actually not kill himself. Making the ganking pointless. |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
24
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Posted - 2012.03.30 00:11:00 -
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Joepopo wrote:Azran Zala wrote:Good OP +1
"This Wiz dood has pulled off one of the most successfull trolls in eve history."
It is THE WIS with a S, not a Z. If you gank THE WIZ, he may actually not kill himself. Making the whole ganking pointless.
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
237
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Posted - 2012.03.30 00:21:00 -
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Joepopo wrote:Azran Zala wrote:Good OP +1
"This Wiz dood has pulled off one of the most successfull trolls in eve history."
It is THE WIS with a S, not a Z. If you gank THE WIZ, he may actually not kill himself. Making the ganking pointless.
You slay me. |
Lenni Lennipe
The Progeny Legions
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Posted - 2012.03.30 01:27:00 -
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goon tears best tears |
Dank Man
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Posted - 2012.03.30 05:19:00 -
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Repercussions... lol he cant FC.. he leads sheep to slaughter, I'm sure he can do that while he's away for a month, he's already on a good path sending them to Tenal :) |
Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
937
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Posted - 2012.03.30 06:27:00 -
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Dank Man wrote:Repercussions... lol he cant FC.. he leads sheep to slaughter, I'm sure he can do that while he's away for a month, he's already on a good path sending them to Tenal :)
lol you should login m8, hey when you cascade again there's always IT you can go crawling back to.
maybe you can take a nice piece of space in curse or some shithole hehehehehhehehe |
Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
937
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Posted - 2012.03.30 06:28:00 -
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Lenni Lennipe wrote:goon tears best tears
let's all post tired unfunny memes |
Gloomy Gus
GoonWaffe
260
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Posted - 2012.03.30 16:00:00 -
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Sverige Pahis wrote:Lenni Lennipe wrote:goon tears best tears let's all post tired unfunny memes
silly goony that tear was even more flavourful for being reduced in the stock that is this thread
GǣGooniesGǪGǪGǪ..winning EVEGǪGǪGǪGǪ.one tear at a timeGǪGǪGǪ.Gǥ - Snot Shot - 2012
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ISD Eshtir
Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.03.30 18:47:00 -
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Please use this thread.
Thread locked.
ISD Eshtir
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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