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Telk Behm'shai
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Posted - 2004.06.19 17:50:00 -
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I being a loyal Amarrian I wish to convey that I do not condone slavery that has been apart of our races heritage for centuries. Though I may feel this way I do not care either way about minmatars being freed by members of their race. I have grown up around seeing my race subjecgate minmatars to do thier will. Knowning more about the way things are than any of the other race, We/I find minmatars to be inferior; and only seeing that they are where they are is because of such.
Though I may not like the way my people treat them, it is apparent that they are in slavery because of being inferior and are defenceless to stoping what has been for so many centuries.
The Amarr Empire will go on doing what the Amarrian empires have done for so long. I was recently in the Minmatar chann. seeing what I could see and found that members of Oracle Corp. will be assebling soon to protest the freedom of every fellow minmatarian slave.
As I entered the channel late I do not know where and when such a protest will take place. I only wish to heed a warning to fellow innocent Amarrians that might find themselves attacked by such members of Oracle Corp. and those that follow them (i.e. Team Wonderland corp.) who have said they will support such a cause.
Amarrian rule will never change. Things are the way they are. This protest will only bring martors and death. Nothing will change.
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Ardor
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Posted - 2004.06.19 18:25:00 -
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I dislike Minmatar in the Amarr channel, but more than this I dislike Amarr going to the Minmatar channel. Those who like being together in one channel (smacktalking or whatever) should create the 'all_races' channel.
Oracle are against slavery? Congratulations for finding this out. And you Telk Behm'shai should read the scriptures to find out what slavery is. You will not find the answer in the Minmatar channel.
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Sarek Galathos
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Posted - 2004.06.19 20:42:00 -
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Of course the Minmatar are inferior. So is everyone that is non-Amarr!
I personally do not own or trade slaves, yet I hold no grudges against those who do. I cannot be bothered with the paperwork and time involved in the slave trade...I find there are other ventures that are far more rewarding than hauling smelly Minmatar all over Empire space.
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Sarek Galathos
Versatech Interstellar Limited
Pilot: Gamma Wing (Agent Division)
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Lorna Doone
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Posted - 2004.06.20 06:05:00 -
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I reckon you lot should set up your own channel named 'racist.'
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Golan Trevize
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Posted - 2004.06.20 07:23:00 -
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Edited by: Golan Trevize on 20/06/2004 07:24:34
From:TES Overlord Apocalypse class.
Location:Amarr prime high orbit.
Commanding officer:Adm Trevize PIE-CEO/Fleetcommander.
***COMMS FLICKER***
Congratulations silly little girl, you have made it to the halls of fame and are now added to my list of names , yours is right beneath the known traitor and terrorist agitator Lorna Doone.
***HITS A FEW KEYS ON LAPTOP***
Let it be known that when the Minmatar "problem" have been solved , men dressed in black will come and question your loyalties........they may not be as forgiving as i .....so retract your statement now, repent your sins and seek forgiveness for your evil words.
Transmission ends....
The Gallente ideals of Freedom, Liberty and Equality will be met by the Amarr realities of Lasers, Armor and Battleships. |
Lorna Doone
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Posted - 2004.06.20 08:07:00 -
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Edited by: Lorna Doone on 20/06/2004 08:11:20
Yikes!
I'm on Golan's list! 
Well, I guess I should be thankful that at least one person has been listening to my righteous sermons!
However, I think the term 'terrorist agitator' is a tad harsh - I reckon something like 'encourager of lively debate' is more appropriate 
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.06.20 08:19:00 -
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Slaves are great, nothing like some good cheap workers to do with as you please, be it make them work to their last breath on some far away moon deep in a mine somewhere, or they are also great for releasing stress if youve had a bad day, nothing says stress relief like a good old slave punching bag.
Maybe when I get back from my vacation I'll send you all a slave punching bag or two from my stock
*wonders what Golan's "Good" and "Bad" lists look like* 
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
Golan Trevize
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Posted - 2004.06.20 11:09:00 -
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From:TES Overlord Apocalypse class.
Location:Amarr prime high orbit.
Commanding officer:Adm Trevize PIE-CEO/Fleetcommander.
Mr. Deathwing let me put it like this.........my bad list is very long.
The Gallente ideals of Freedom, Liberty and Equality will be met by the Amarr realities of Lasers, Armor and Battleships. |
Ticket Master
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Posted - 2004.06.20 11:20:00 -
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Edited by: Ticket Master on 20/06/2004 11:21:49
I've heard rumours that maybe Golan's making up for something, this list is so long...
Of course they're only rumours, Golan, made up by terrorist propagandists.
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Corin Raven
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Posted - 2004.06.20 11:22:00 -
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Pushing your bounderies a little Ticket Master?
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Proud Captain of the CRS Loki-II (Rupture Class) |
Otakanishj
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Posted - 2004.06.20 11:45:00 -
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It is a sorry thought that these comments might be the common opinion amongst the majority of the Amarrian population.
I hope for a truth to rise from Amarr, that it is the few who shout loudest on the delusion of Amarrian superiority. That the true Amarrian populace realise they are none but among equals.
It is no fault of these individuals that they have been led to believe that this is the correct way to lead their lives. Slavery of other races is merely an extension of the subservient structure of Amarrian culture. The Amarr Empire whose leadership is wrought from the triumph of physical might over the weaker members of its society. Those whose doctrine is then entwined into religious dogma, so corrupted and twisted, that it is there simply to act as a curtain for those corrupt leaders.
Amarrians know only the way of a subservience forced upon them by those above them in their own society. It can come as little surprise that some Amarrians find they cannot live on without forcing their feelings of inadequacy out onto others through brutal enslavement.
It would take a great deal of counselling, for each and every one of these victims, to find a way to overcome their aggressive tendencies and to achieve an inner peace that would allow them to coexist with other races. For this is how I come to view those in Amarr, that choose to blindly follow a religion laid down simply as a tool of subjugation, by a military dictator.
There are others, amongst the Amarr, who are not this way. Who through their own strength of character have been able to overcome their own inner wounds, and find themselves a place living amongst all kinds. Sadly, at this time, I know only one.
I salute you Hast. Greatest of the Amarr.
Speak out Ammarrians, those of you who have overcome your Empires damning legacy, bring forth a hope that your people can be saved. Carry Amarr out from the shadows of its absurd past and put in place a system to treat those afflicted with the curse of your forefathers!
Otakanishj - Office of Information - Orvolle I
Northern Intelligence - NOINT
NOINT Forum
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Hast
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Posted - 2004.06.20 12:24:00 -
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Thank you Otakinshj, for your kind words. Its not easy beeing expelled by the amarrian society.
If I travel through Amarr I risk crusifiction by PIE wich is a true traitors death.
I was expelled and exiled by my friends and family alike, because one of the holders deemed my political views too radical. So I had too flee from Azerakish where I was serving my corp 2nd Foundation. I am now grateful for that the Great Admiral Iceblock took me in, and allowed me too fly under his flag.
If slavery is going to end it has to start from within, the revolution will come my brothers. Even Golan will realize it eventually
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Jim Hawkins
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Posted - 2004.06.20 13:02:00 -
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 Originally by: Otakanishj
Speak out Ammarrians, those of you who have overcome your Empires damning legacy, bring forth a hope that your people can be saved. Carry Amarr out from the shadows of its absurd past and put in place a system to treat those afflicted with the curse of your forefathers!
The only was any of us can be saved is through service to God, whether it be in the capacity of a slave or through less menial means such as that achieved by right of birth - i.e. being an Amarr - one of God's own children.
We are angels of light and truth and if our actions seem brutal to you then be assured that it is for your own good, both in this world and the next.
We are not monsters, hell bent on subjugation for its own sake. We seek to enlighten. But you have not allowed God into your lives and so you do not see the great opportunities that we offer you. Never-the-less, I forgive you because I know there will come a time when you accept that the way of the Amarr is the way of God and the way to a brighter happier future for all.
We love you, but love has to be tough sometimes and you will accept our way, even if the message has to be forced home through the barrel of a gun and with my boot upon your head.
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Makkar
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Posted - 2004.06.20 13:08:00 -
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Oracle wish to point out that whilst Oracle are opposed to slavery in all forms, we are not involved with the organisation of this protest. We in no way condone can spamming as a method of protest.
Lag griefing is bad, mmm-kay?
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Otakanishj
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Posted - 2004.06.20 14:19:00 -
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Jim Hawkins, please at least try to convince me.
Perhaps you still need convincing yourself?
There is no Amarr God. Your religious doctrine is, meerly, policy to enforce adherance of lesser Amarrians. There are no choices laid before your youth and so a system remsains without change. All civilisatoins must change and evolve. You are still a species that is the same as at the time of travel through the EVE gate. Other kinds in this world have evolved beyond your self imposed limitations including the Minmatar.
How many Amarrian dissidents have perished by the hands of the Amarr Military/Paramilitary for wishing to express a single differance of opinion?
It is only the brave and lucky few, like Hast, who escape the terror of your Thought Police disguised as members of the clergy. Going on to find true freedom and enlightenment.
Your world is one of oppression, that grants favours only to those who deal out the oppression for your leader. Let us hear from the true people of Amarr who whish to evolve, not the Emperors Henchmen bound to enforce rigid restraints on their own people.
Otakanishj - Office of Information - Orvolle I
Northern Intelligence - NOINT
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Corin Raven
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Posted - 2004.06.20 14:50:00 -
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Edited by: Corin Raven on 20/06/2004 14:52:03
And why would the Amarrian authorities care for or allow for what thier liberals would have to say? They're not going to offer them chance to be heard and not be riducled (or persecuted) for it.
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Sarek Galathos
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Posted - 2004.06.20 14:59:00 -
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It's only business, gentlemen.
Please, conduct yourselves in an orderly fashion.
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Sarek Galathos
Versatech Interstellar Limited
Pilot: Gamma Wing (Agent Division)
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Jim Hawkins
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Posted - 2004.06.20 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Otakanishj
Jim Hawkins, please at least try to convince me.
I'm not even going to waste my time trying. It's clear that your mind is already made up...
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There is no Amarr God.
...See. You have abandoned God and there is nothing for you now, save death.
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Your religious doctrine is, meerly, policy to enforce adherance of lesser Amarrians.
So what? All Governments need a system of control. I put it to you that our system is better than yours.
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There are no choices laid before your youth and so a system remains without change.
Don't get me started on 'choice' You have none, you just think you do.
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Let us hear from the true people of Amarr who whish to evolve...
Ha! I think you'll find I am a true person of Amarr and we are already evolved - to a much higher degree than you as it happens. Leave it alone you slug and just accept what is, it'll be easier for you in the long run.
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Lorna Doone
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Posted - 2004.06.20 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Hawkins
I think you'll find I am a true person of Amarr and we are already evolved...
The fact that you think you need to go through a religion in order to find God suggests otherwise. Your religion is not a path to God, it's the system by which a corrupt and poisonous elite enforces its totalitarian regime, and as such is about as far removed from the true nature of God as it's possible to be.
You want to evolve? Cast aside your credulity for one moment, and the whole stinking mess will become painfully clear.
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2004.06.21 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: Golan Trevize
Let it be known that when the Minmatar "problem" have been solved , men dressed in black will come and question your loyalties....
Maybe she knows, as good as i do, that you are not able to solve the "minmatar problem" 
v.Adm. ZoolKhan; U'K Council member.
W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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Freekill
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Posted - 2004.06.22 00:04:00 -
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A loyal Amarrian wouldn't utter the words you are spewing out of your treasonous mouth. The Minmatar are much better off in our care everyone knows it!
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Tomasz Zelazny
Sabaoth representative to Metatron Incoporated
"Honoring the past. Embracing the future" |
Makkar
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Posted - 2004.06.22 00:30:00 -
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That's chiefly why I reckon she's not a loyal Amarrian, you know...
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Freekill
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Posted - 2004.06.22 01:04:00 -
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Ohh praise the lord a Minmatar agrees with me?
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Tomasz Zelazny
Sabaoth representative to Metatron Incoporated
"Honoring the past. Embracing the future" |
Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.06.22 05:05:00 -
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Mmmmmmmmm, good to see the heart of the once mighty Sabaoth begin to beat again
Hopefully we can see it's full return someday
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
Freekill
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Posted - 2004.06.22 13:05:00 -
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Edited by: Freekill on 22/06/2004 13:11:36
Originally by: Deathwing
Still Loyal To The Lady Sarum....Doriam will pay
It warms my heart to see that the Sarum family still has a few friends out there. Perhaps we both can grow stronger again soon through sacrifice and teamwork.
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Tomasz Zelazny
Sabaoth representative to Metatron Incoporated
"Honoring the past. Embracing the future" |
Tsual
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Posted - 2004.07.04 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Hawkins
Ha! I think you'll find I am a true person of Amarr and we are already evolved - to a much higher degree..
...of dementia.
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Tsual - Miner from faith, frigat junky for life.
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Tsual
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Posted - 2004.07.04 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Hawkins
Ha! I think you'll find I am a true person of Amarr and we are already evolved - to a much higher degree..
...of dementia.
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Tsual - Miner from faith, frigat junky for life.
Ritual of the Qua'nadhar. |
Freekill
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Posted - 2004.07.05 00:07:00 -
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Ohh my a Minmatar with a sense of humor! Can I interest you in a Neo-Citizenship? I am sure we would have use for a comedian somewhere.
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Tomasz Zelazny
Sabaoth representative to Metatron Incoporated
"Honoring the past. Embracing the future" |
Freekill
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Posted - 2004.07.05 00:07:00 -
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Ohh my a Minmatar with a sense of humor! Can I interest you in a Neo-Citizenship? I am sure we would have use for a comedian somewhere.
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Tomasz Zelazny
Sabaoth representative to Metatron Incoporated
"Honoring the past. Embracing the future" |
Fasute Sethnakte
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Posted - 2004.07.05 00:42:00 -
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Originally by: Freekill
Ohh my a Minmatar with a sense of humor! Can I interest you in a Neo-Citizenship? I am sure we would have use for a comedian somewhere.
Come now Tomasz, we both know that the capacity for humor in a Minmat is usually confined to a cute humorus grunt or a short-lived physical stunt involving a long fall from a high place.
Besides, most Neo-Citizen Comedians tend to wind up in Waste Disposal Services after they've depleted their small well of jokes and used thier pay on heavy drinking. The life of a comedian is not friendly.
May I suggest being a doorman. Doormen usually live longer, and you never know who's coming out that door. A surprise every moment.
Have an entertaining day, citizens.
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Fasute Sethnakte
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Posted - 2004.07.05 00:42:00 -
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Originally by: Freekill
Ohh my a Minmatar with a sense of humor! Can I interest you in a Neo-Citizenship? I am sure we would have use for a comedian somewhere.
Come now Tomasz, we both know that the capacity for humor in a Minmat is usually confined to a cute humorus grunt or a short-lived physical stunt involving a long fall from a high place.
Besides, most Neo-Citizen Comedians tend to wind up in Waste Disposal Services after they've depleted their small well of jokes and used thier pay on heavy drinking. The life of a comedian is not friendly.
May I suggest being a doorman. Doormen usually live longer, and you never know who's coming out that door. A surprise every moment.
Have an entertaining day, citizens.
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Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2004.07.05 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Golan Trevize
Mr. Deathwing let me put it like this.........my bad list is very long.
I take it this imps software takes equally long to load its ships systems...
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Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2004.07.05 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Golan Trevize
Mr. Deathwing let me put it like this.........my bad list is very long.
I take it this imps software takes equally long to load its ships systems...
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Freekill
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Posted - 2004.07.05 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Fasute Sethnakte
Come now Tomasz, we both know that the capacity for humor in a Minmat is usually confined to a cute humorus grunt or a short-lived physical stunt involving a long fall from a high place.
Besides, most Neo-Citizen Comedians tend to wind up in Waste Disposal Services after they've depleted their small well of jokes and used thier pay on heavy drinking. The life of a comedian is not friendly.
May I suggest being a doorman. Doormen usually live longer, and you never know who's coming out that door. A surprise every moment.
Have an entertaining day, citizens.
I thinks its all a matter of training them properly. Some positive reinforcement and it should be able to perform above the normal. Besiade, as you say, we can always reassign it at a later date.
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Tomasz Zelazny
Sabaoth representative to Metatron Incoporated
"Honoring the past. Embracing the future" |
Freekill
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Posted - 2004.07.05 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Fasute Sethnakte
Come now Tomasz, we both know that the capacity for humor in a Minmat is usually confined to a cute humorus grunt or a short-lived physical stunt involving a long fall from a high place.
Besides, most Neo-Citizen Comedians tend to wind up in Waste Disposal Services after they've depleted their small well of jokes and used thier pay on heavy drinking. The life of a comedian is not friendly.
May I suggest being a doorman. Doormen usually live longer, and you never know who's coming out that door. A surprise every moment.
Have an entertaining day, citizens.
I thinks its all a matter of training them properly. Some positive reinforcement and it should be able to perform above the normal. Besiade, as you say, we can always reassign it at a later date.
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Tomasz Zelazny
Sabaoth representative to Metatron Incoporated
"Honoring the past. Embracing the future" |
Uncle Janice
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Posted - 2004.07.05 15:46:00 -
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The issue of slavery is often used to conceal the real problem in Empire space.
That is Turtle Abuse! it is prevalent, and must be stopped!
This hideous crime is an abomination that too many people ignore in favour of so called "slave issues".
Band together with the nubmen, in our campaign to end these crimes. All campaign fund contributions are welcome, as the fight agsinst turtle abuse is expensive.
OOOh! that colour looks so good on you!
And I love your hair!
But if you lay a finger on my turtles, its over darling.
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Uncle Janice
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Posted - 2004.07.05 15:46:00 -
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The issue of slavery is often used to conceal the real problem in Empire space.
That is Turtle Abuse! it is prevalent, and must be stopped!
This hideous crime is an abomination that too many people ignore in favour of so called "slave issues".
Band together with the nubmen, in our campaign to end these crimes. All campaign fund contributions are welcome, as the fight agsinst turtle abuse is expensive.
OOOh! that colour looks so good on you!
And I love your hair!
But if you lay a finger on my turtles, its over darling.
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