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Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:11:00 -
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Well, they eventually did it, CCP has gone batshit insane and they are planning to change wardec mechanics so A can wardec B and keep the war going on forever while paying the weekly bill even if the war is non-consensual.
I guess that if you are in a small non-pvp corp, or in a one-man corp, you can figure what could this mean for you and your friends if someone wardecced you just for griefing.
The money quote:
some CCP wrote:Q: How long will wars last? A: As long as the aggressor pays every week and no one surrenders (or no surrender offer is accepted), then a war can last forever.
So go to this thread:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1036933#post1036933
And tell them CCP in what body oriffice can they store this **** so we pretend they never meant it.
EVE residents: 5% WH; 8% Lowsec; 20% Nullsec; 67% Highsec. CSM 7: 1 highsec resident out of 14.-á
CSM demographics vs EVE demographics, nothing to worry about... |

Sister Rhode
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:13:00 -
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I hear you can play WoW free to level 20 now. |

KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
486
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:13:00 -
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How is that different from right now, exactly? http://blog.beyondreality.se/Incursion-hose Remove all incursions from hisec |

Starcaller Dredg
1st Contact Fade 2 Black
35
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:14:00 -
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Hello Kitty Online is -------------> over there http://pastebin.com/B7HCtBUE Mittani isn't sorry. He's just sorry that he got caught. He didn't step down because of his actions. He stepped down to benefit Goonswarm. He didn't apologize because he meant it. He apologized to save face. |

Elijah Craig
Trask Industries Li3 Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:15:00 -
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Pro Tip:- If you are a small Corp that gets WarDec'ed, get some friends to help you. |

Capacity gear
Stella Contego Security Stella Stargate Security
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:17:00 -
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NPC corp? |

Xander Riggs
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:18:00 -
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That was the plan. They want people fighting wars. You fight, get someone to fight for you, or you sit. The sitting could last forever...it's intended to force you to engage the enemy, even if you don't want to.
Because you were ATTACKED. "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |

My Neutral Toon
Knights Who Til Recently Said Ni
51
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:19:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Well, they eventually did it, CCP has gone batshit insane and they are planning to change wardec mechanics so A can wardec B and keep the war going on forever while paying the weekly bill even if the war is non-consensual.
How is this different from current mechanics? As an Ex-Highsec-Wardec corp member, we used to run war decs as long as we wanted, as long as we paid the fee, and they didnt surrender. Whether it was mutual or not... ...Can't. Tell. If ...Troll? Or Serious.... |

Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
37
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:20:00 -
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As a casual player in a one-man corp, I advise you to nut up. "Fun fact: carebears are not necessary for the game to function." --áTippia |

My Neutral Toon
Knights Who Til Recently Said Ni
51
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:20:00 -
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Elijah Craig wrote:Pro Tip:- If you are a small Corp that gets WarDec'ed, get some friends to help you.
I'll go ahead and throw a name out there...
If you are in Caldari HS and get war dec'd, Contact Lonetrek Salvage and Scrap. for a fee, they'll help you. ...Can't. Tell. If ...Troll? Or Serious.... |

Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc Thundering Herd
83
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:21:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Well, they eventually did it, CCP has gone batshit insane and they are planning to change wardec mechanics so A can wardec B and keep the war going on forever while paying the weekly bill even if the war is non-consensual.
I guess that if you are in a small non-pvp corp, or in a one-man corp, you can figure what could this mean for you and your friends if someone wardecced you just for griefing.
Enlighten me, how is this different from the current mechanic? Appears me that the only downside is that the aggressor just has to pay a bit more than currently to keep it going.
Nothing clever at this time. |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
392
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:22:00 -
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Xander Riggs wrote:That was the plan. They want people fighting wars. You fight, get someone to fight for you, or you sit. The sitting could last forever...it's intended to force you to engage the enemy, even if you don't want to.
Because you were ATTACKED.
I -rethorically- don't pay for not being able to play a game because of some ******** game mechanic whose only purpose is to favor being a jerk. EVE residents: 5% WH; 8% Lowsec; 20% Nullsec; 67% Highsec. CSM 7: 1 highsec resident out of 14.-á
CSM demographics vs EVE demographics, nothing to worry about... |

MIkhail Illiad
Fevered Imaginings DSM FOUNDATION
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:24:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Well, they eventually did it, CCP has gone batshit insane and they are planning to change wardec mechanics so A can wardec B and keep the war going on forever while paying the weekly bill even if the war is non-consensual. I guess that if you are in a small non-pvp corp, or in a one-man corp, you can figure what could this mean for you and your friends if someone wardecced you just for griefing. The money quote: some CCP wrote:Q: How long will wars last? A: As long as the aggressor pays every week and no one surrenders (or no surrender offer is accepted), then a war can last forever. So go to this thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1036933#post1036933And tell them CCP in what body oriffice can they store this **** so we pretend they never meant it.
You mean like it is right now?? On a one man mission against asshatery!-á |

Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
37
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:25:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:I -rethorically- don't pay for not being able to play a game because of some ******** game mechanic whose only purpose is to favor being a jerk. Man, I really hope you quit. "Fun fact: carebears are not necessary for the game to function." --áTippia |

Sister Rhode
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:29:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Xander Riggs wrote:That was the plan. They want people fighting wars. You fight, get someone to fight for you, or you sit. The sitting could last forever...it's intended to force you to engage the enemy, even if you don't want to.
Because you were ATTACKED. I -rethorically- don't pay for not being able to play a game because of some ******** game mechanic whose only purpose is to favor being a jerk.
There are plenty of video games out there, many of them MMOs, which cater to a more pve centric game style.
Don't be ashamed to admit that Eve Online is not for you. |

Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
110
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:30:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:I -rethorically- don't pay for not being able to play a game because of some ******** game mechanic whose only purpose is to favor being a jerk.
so go outside and shoot them!
Being at war doesn't stop you from playing the game, unless you LET it stop you. It's an important part of the game.
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the rocket propulsion test chamber.
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Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
62
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:32:00 -
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That part of the war dec is not changed. There was never a limit on how long a war could be extended.
A small corp will be smart to join an alliance under the new system. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1374
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:33:00 -
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In other news, the sky is still blue.
Film at 11. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Starcaller Dredg
1st Contact Fade 2 Black
35
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:37:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
I -rethorically- don't pay for not being able to play a game because of some ******** game mechanic whose only purpose is to favor being a jerk.
The idea of this is that you would shoot them back. This isn't minecraft and it isn't warcraft. EVE is a high risk/reward game. You WILL lose ships, and so will everyone else. http://pastebin.com/B7HCtBUE Mittani isn't sorry. He's just sorry that he got caught. He didn't step down because of his actions. He stepped down to benefit Goonswarm. He didn't apologize because he meant it. He apologized to save face. |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1390
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:41:00 -
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I kind of don't agree on this one. In war you don't declare war on someone and then ask "Is that ok?". You declare war and start killing for as long as you can or feel like. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |

Frederick Sanger
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:43:00 -
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How can you say it's non-consensual when they're fitted like that? |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
393
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:48:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:I kind of don't agree on this one. In war you don't declare war on someone and then ask "Is that ok?". You declare war and start killing for as long as you can or feel like.
My idea of ending an unwanted war implies assassination. Regretfully, EVE is a ***** game and you can't murder anyone even if they are out of their pod.  EVE residents: 5% WH; 8% Lowsec; 20% Nullsec; 67% Highsec. CSM 7: 1 highsec resident out of 14.-á
CSM demographics vs EVE demographics, nothing to worry about... |
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