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sasf	Posted - 2008.10.02 13:27:00 - [31] Im whingeing in 3 different threads at the moment and i'm having the time of my life
Jana Cova	Posted - 2008.10.02 13:28:00 - [32] Edited by: Jana Cova on 02/10/2008 13:28:11 Originally by: Estel Arador Originally by: Graic More to your point, look at a timezone map - DT should be closer to, or right on the International Date Line. ?!?!? Agreed, a brilliant comment. Worthy of saving to my signature, if I could be bothered. /me sighs
Hades In'aMiniskirt 30 ounces	Posted - 2008.10.02 13:31:00 - [33] Originally by: jnky Theres 24 hours in a day there has to be a slightly better time, I dont want to screw anyone over and dt is probably suited to whatever happens that time of day in Iceland. I know nothing will ever change about it I just thought I would let you know I think its crap for me now. ORLY? Never heard this before....honestly But as an Aussie myself, and having played EVE for well over a year and a half now, I am used to it....and yes I posted the same whine back then....you have received great replies, all I got are flames by people who don't actually have to suffer DT in the middle of THEIR playtime
MissileBella	Posted - 2008.10.02 13:33:00 - [34] Originally by: Batolemaeus Originally by: NightmareX Originally by: MissileBella Let's get a rotating roster of downtime. Move downtime forward one hour every month, and don't stop. I was sitting here and waiting for someone to say that. It's the stupiest idea EVER. /me shouts BINGO and demands a beer from PrismX Want to explain why? Give me 3 solid reasons such an idea is unrealistic and the "stupidest idea EVER".
Dawn Black	Posted - 2008.10.02 13:33:00 - [35] Originally by: jnky I moved to Australia a few months back from the UK. Having played Eve for years downtime was never an issue as I was always at work during the week but now downtime is like 9-10pm here. Surely theres a better time to do this, I was sort of dealing with this barely, but with all this extended downtime its beyond a joke, I've been able to play for like 1 hour tonight and thats not the only time this week. To top it off my bloody wife has caught onto this and gets me to do silly little chores from 9-10 which just isn't on guys. There has to be a better time for it, give your Aussie customers some luvin pls. Upgrade your wife to wife 2.0
Malcanis RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.10.02 13:36:00 - [36] Originally by: MissileBella Originally by: Batolemaeus Originally by: NightmareX Originally by: MissileBella Let's get a rotating roster of downtime. Move downtime forward one hour every month, and don't stop. I was sitting here and waiting for someone to say that. It's the stupiest idea EVER. /me shouts BINGO and demands a beer from PrismX Want to explain why? Give me 3 solid reasons such an idea is unrealistic and the "stupidest idea EVER". (1) You're asking CCP to pay staff to work outside normal hours - expensive, and demanding on the staff too - for 2/3s of the month (2) You're asking the players to deal with constantly changing DT (3) No-one likes you or anything you say.
jnky The Righteous Few Tygris Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.02 13:39:00 - [37] Originally by: Hades In'aMiniskirt you have received great replies, all I got are flames by people who don't actually have to suffer DT in the middle of THEIR playtime You see mate its all about timing, you should have posted during ext dt when all the Aussies are pieved off
MissileBella	Posted - 2008.10.02 13:40:00 - [38] Originally by: Malcanis (1) You're asking CCP to pay staff to work outside normal hours - expensive, and demanding on the staff too - for 2/3s of the month (2) You're asking the players to deal with constantly changing DT (3) No-one likes you or anything you say. 1 - Shift work at a data centre is NOT unheard of. It's the norm. 2 - Dealing with a constant change? Every month is constant? 3 - You've invalidated anything you've ever said or will say forever. Have a nice day troll.
Demitria Fernir Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.10.02 13:42:00 - [39] 12. NO WARRANTIES The Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game. CCP disclaims all warranties, whether express or implied, including without limitation the warranties of merchantability, fitness for particular purpose and non-infringement. There is no warranty against interference with your enjoyment of the Game. CCP does not warrant that the operation of the System or your access to the System, or that your use of the Software, will be uninterrupted or error-free, nor that the System or Software will be compatible with your hardware and software. While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures. 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101001 I will Conquer My Signature Somewhere in the future 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101001
jnky The Righteous Few Tygris Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.02 13:43:00 - [40] Edited by: jnky on 02/10/2008 13:43:28 Originally by: Demitria Fernir Stuff You dont get out much do you
sasf	Posted - 2008.10.02 13:44:00 - [41] WTF?
robbyx	Posted - 2008.10.02 13:48:00 - [42] I dont think a rotating DT is the answer...us Kiwis and Aussies just accept that this is when DT happens, and we can deal with it...i mean, if we can deal with all the damn Pom's and Yank's in the game we can deal with most things....its just the extended DT's and patching get a bit much, it pretty much ends the nights gaming on EVE...we pay as much as anyone else for EVE...but we definately dont get the same service.
Maglorre	Posted - 2008.10.02 13:55:00 - [43] Yes, and if you non GMT +12 to +8 players don't like us whinging, then too bloody bad. What else are we supposed to do during extended DT's? Besides it's amusing to watch you all come up with all and sundry excuses for NOT moving the DT to your prime time.
Winterblink Body Count Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.02 14:12:00 - [44] I can never get over the irony of these types of threads. warp drive active \| nature vraie
Malcanis RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.10.02 14:12:00 - [45] Originally by: Maglorre Yes, and if you non GMT +12 to +8 players don't like us whinging, then too bloody bad. What else are we supposed to do during extended DT's? Besides it's amusing to watch you all come up with all and sundry excuses for NOT moving the DT to your prime time. Who says we don't like it? I haven't seen comedy like this since Howard's face when he was presenting the world cup to the winning team in 2003.
Murk Loar Caldari Polytope	Posted - 2008.10.02 16:00:00 - [46] I've completely changed my sleeping pattern now to deal with this issue. DT for me is 7pm - 8pm (WA)unless extended.So I sleep all afternoon and play from 8pm until Im tired again. I'm not going to complain about DT being in my 'prime time',but I will say that the 4am alarm clock ops are starting to hurt.
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.02 16:21:00 - [47] Originally by: MissileBella Let's get a rotating roster of downtime. Move downtime forward one hour every month, and don't stop. Better idea. Ask the powers that be to change the day to 23 hours so we can have a day that gradually goes backwards until noon is at midnight and then continues back to noon again. You've got about as much chance of that happening as your idea. Eve DT is 11am GMT end of story. Aussies have been whining about this since as far back as I can remember and I have been playing for 4 years now. Don't try to flame me cos I come from the UK, I am trying to emigrate to Aus myself. -- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken.
Demitria Fernir Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.10.02 16:24:00 - [48] Originally by: jnky Edited by: jnky on 02/10/2008 13:43:28 Originally by: Demitria Fernir Stuff Stuff You dont get out much do you 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101001 I will Conquer My Signature Somewhere in the future 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101001
Celin Nieve	Posted - 2008.10.02 16:36:00 - [49] solution: 1. divorce wife 2. move back to UK keep playing EVE
Kamikaze Dan	Posted - 2008.10.02 22:41:00 - [50] Round our circles we know that DT (9pm local) stands for "dinner time". With both of us being eve players, we give in and cook dinner, do the dishes etc during DT. Also, having jobs, coming back online after DT leads to playing until way too late to cope with the pre-6am alarm. The only good thing about daylight savings is that I can actually run some of the longer missions, but now I have work out when to cook dinner, as 10pm is a bit late :( Damn you CCP, you made a game that is way too addictive! Cya Dan
Banana Torres Look Ma I did a Test	Posted - 2008.10.02 22:54:00 - [51] The most logical time to have dt is when the server population is the lowest. Cause then the fewest number of people are disrupted by it. Does anyone know when this is?
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.10.02 22:56:00 - [52] Yes, because having the development team mess about with code and the running of the server at daft-o-clock in the morning because they're operating on GMT is a REALLY REALLY GOOD IDEA. I CAN'T IMAGINE THERE EVER BEING ANY PROBLEMS WITH LETTING HALF ASLEEP PEOPLE WORK ON A LIVE SERVER CLUSTER. \o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/ >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
Aloriana Jacques Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2008.10.02 23:15:00 - [53] The biggest problem I see with moving the DT is, besides that's it going to **** someone else off, is that it's currently set mid-day where the server is actualy located. And I see a few reasons for this. The majority of staff actualy works during regular business hours, so DT has to be done during this time. It can't be done at the start of shift because systems have to be checked and people need to get setup and ready. And it can't be too late in the day because if something goes wrong and they need to spend extra hours working on it, they don't want to run into overtime and be forced to pay the entire staff overtime. Seriously, there's no way they could just call it a day with the server down, so they'd have to pay more and that would eat into costs. Does it suck? Yes. But until a day where server maintenance doesn't require the system to come down, someone must suffer. And I'm just glad it isn't me. - - - Aloriana Jacques - Skill Sheet
Xavier Zedicus Zardoz Incorporated	Posted - 2008.10.02 23:58:00 - [54] Originally by: Batolemaeus Originally by: NightmareX Originally by: MissileBella Let's get a rotating roster of downtime. Move downtime forward one hour every month, and don't stop. I was sitting here and waiting for someone to say that. It's the stupiest idea EVER. /me shouts BINGO and demands a beer from PrismX i have the same damn quote from prismX - Originally by: CCP Prism X In New Eden, EVE wins you. Awesome new pos system proposal.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.10.03 00:07:00 - [55] Suggest CCP IP blocks Australia from one hour before DT to one hour after DT for extra lulz. In general I sympathise, but all those who demand that CCP **** up their work schedule to benefit your play time, know that I am heartily laughing at your plight as I play EVE from when I get home straight through until I go to bed. - DesuSigs
Graic	Posted - 2008.10.03 01:04:00 - [56] Originally by: Banana Torres The most logical time to have dt is when the server population is the lowest. Cause then the fewest number of people are disrupted by it. Does anyone know when this is? That would make sense you would think. The time of lowest server population is about 3-4 hours earlier. If CCP were serious about service delivery they would do DT at about 7AM - 8AM their time which isn't exactly asking much when you want to run a global service that people pay for. I don't notice companies like banks closing down their ATM networks so their staff can have lunch. If Autralia / New Zealand was truly the most quiet part of the day then I could except DT. The fact that it's not - and the fact that the quietest time is still at a reasonable time in CCP HQ for doing DT - and they don't smacks of at worst laziness and at best ambivalence.
Evesham Caldari Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.03 09:14:00 - [57] Originally by: jnky I'll whine all I friggen like, its dt and theres nothing else I want to do. Quote: Shouldn't you be doing your chores then ----------------------- So I said to Winnie "Go F*%k Yourself"
Dr Zelenka	Posted - 2008.10.07 11:32:00 - [58] Originally by: sasf You miss one point yourself NightmareX, I dont give a crap about any other country, we've been dealing with DT's for way too long and its about time someone else got screwed. And, i dont care who it is as long as its no longer australia. AMEN TO THAT
Shakari Sween Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.10.07 11:38:00 - [59] Linkage Basicly there is no other time that is best to have the down time. Its something we have to live with. ps shamless plug for eve-au.com pps /wave sharp
Graic	Posted - 2008.10.07 11:47:00 - [60] Originally by: Shakari Sween Linkage Basicly there is no other time that is best to have the down time. Its something we have to live with. ps shamless plug for eve-au.com pps /wave sharp Reading that looks like a whole lot of nothing can be done in Iceland until people have moped around the office until noon wondering how quick lunchtime will come.

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