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Take Enemy
Amarr
Dead Gnoll's Eye Socket
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Posted - 2008.10.02 15:19:00 -
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First - yes, I read the guide. 
I have been running exploration sites for awhile and I find it far preferable to missioning so will likely turn exploration into my "primary" method of generating isk.
I have all relevant skills at lvl 4. Pushing these skills to lvl 5 will take some time, so wanted to get the most out of it in order. I was wondering what the "experts" pushed to lvl 5 first? I was thinking (in order):
1) Astrometric Triangulation (best to increase chance of a "hit" per analysis?)
2) Signal Acquisition (decreased scan time is always good)
3) Astrometric Pinpointing (lower deviation - though this never seems to be an issue)
Sound about right?
Thanks in advance...
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Sekhpty
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Posted - 2008.10.02 15:43:00 -
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Can you explain to me how do you do ISKs doing explorations?
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Take Enemy
Amarr
Dead Gnoll's Eye Socket
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Posted - 2008.10.02 15:58:00 -
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 Originally by: Sekhpty
Can you explain to me how do you do ISKs doing explorations?
Well you won't make as much as with lvl 4 missions or 0.0 ratting, but it is for me at least more interesting.
Radar/Magnometric sites for hacking/archeology/salvage. Can generate about $100M a week or so, sometimes more. I haven't played with the gas clouds though, so don't know that market. Will do the "Unknown" sites occassionally for a changeup - decent rat bounties there, plus chance to escalate (though random and somewhat rare).
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Des Jardin
Ad Astra Vexillum
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Posted - 2008.10.02 16:12:00 -
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Triangulation first, then Pinpointing, and then SA. All should be IV before going to V for any of them.
Des Jardin
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Srioghal moDhream
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Posted - 2008.10.02 16:37:00 -
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Not on your list but Cov Ops V was a nice boost.
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Aioa
Planetary Assault Systems
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Posted - 2008.10.02 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: Srioghal moDhream
Not on your list but Cov Ops V was a nice boost.
This. It's +10% and only rank 4 compared to the rank 8 SA. Plus you get the bonus of the nice CPU reduction.
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Take Enemy
Amarr
Dead Gnoll's Eye Socket
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Posted - 2008.10.02 18:32:00 -
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Thanks! Didn't think to push Covops V first.
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Conq Er
Sweetrock Mining
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Posted - 2008.10.03 05:46:00 -
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Edited by: Conq Er on 03/10/2008 05:46:33
Don't believe anything people say about good results with level V. There is absolutely ZERO advantage taking ALL exploration skills to level V. I know a few lvl5'ers that every now and then start whining about how they are scanning for 2/3 hours and still cannot get a 0 lockdown. Only train those that reduces scan time. Triangulation/pinpointing V is about as useless as Salvager V or Hacking V.
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Posted - 2008.10.03 09:54:00 -
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Originally by: Conq Er
Edited by: Conq Er on 03/10/2008 05:46:33
Don't believe anything people say about good results with level V. There is absolutely ZERO advantage taking ALL exploration skills to level V. I know a few lvl5'ers that every now and then start whining about how they are scanning for 2/3 hours and still cannot get a 0 lockdown. Only train those that reduces scan time. Triangulation/pinpointing V is about as useless as Salvager V or Hacking V.
Zero advantage, no way.
training the skills increases the chance you find a site. your average scanningtime will lower a bit, the chance you got to spend 3 hours scanning before you actually find something becomes smaller, not zero.
Don't have the skills in V myself, but maybe will train them in time to make one char a perfect scan alt.
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Lynne Enroch
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Posted - 2008.10.03 14:54:00 -
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You certain there is nothing else you could be doing with those almost 3 months of training? The return on your time is so poor, you could spend that time training almost anything else and receiving a far, FAR larger benefit to another aspect of your gameplay. You could take up invention,or something and use that to help fund your objectives. You could go train a falcon up and be a target of hatred and envy
But WHY would you spend a almost a month per skill on an extra %5 chance?
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Tasko Pal
Heron Corporation
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Posted - 2008.10.03 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Lynne Enroch
You certain there is nothing else you could be doing with those almost 3 months of training? The return on your time is so poor, you could spend that time training almost anything else and receiving a far, FAR larger benefit to another aspect of your gameplay. You could take up invention,or something and use that to help fund your objectives. You could go train a falcon up and be a target of hatred and envy
But WHY would you spend a almost a month per skill on an extra %5 chance?
Because they live and breath exploration. Plus anything that reduces player effort is inordinately valuable. |
Take Enemy
Amarr
Dead Gnoll's Eye Socket
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Posted - 2008.10.03 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: Lynne Enroch
You certain there is nothing else you could be doing with those almost 3 months of training? The return on your time is so poor, you could spend that time training almost anything else and receiving a far, FAR larger benefit to another aspect of your gameplay. You could take up invention,or something and use that to help fund your objectives. You could go train a falcon up and be a target of hatred and envy
But WHY would you spend a almost a month per skill on an extra %5 chance?
To be fair, it is not with this char, but my exploration/invention/cargo hauling/etc alt. Enemy is my main and combat centric. The falcon pilot option does have merit though... 
After reading the additional posts, I may just take CovOps to 5 for the reduced scan time and call it good. I already use the GCU's and a 6% prospector implant with my Anathema. Luckily I don't seem to have to go 2-3 hours without finding sites, I hit lowsec systems with 2-3 at a time often (though getting the locations locked down can be a PITA).
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Booken Blue
Ixion Defence Systems
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Posted - 2008.10.04 05:29:00 -
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I'd go with:
-Signal Acquisition
-Astrometric Triangulation
-Astrometric Pinpointing
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Akuma Tsukai
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.10.04 07:26:00 -
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Covops
Signal
Triangulation
Pinpointing (for the sake of perfection). Not that its so usefull but hey, why not.
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