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Leilani Solaris Gallente Atomic Battle Penguins	Posted - 2008.10.03 15:11:00 - [1] I just finished reading it and would like to thank Tony Gonzales for writing and excellent novel. I enjoyed it from start to finish. I know there was a thread about the book somewhere else but i'm too lazy to look for it right now .
Rifter Drifter Minmatar Greatly Reducing Inflation Every Fight	Posted - 2008.10.03 15:19:00 - [2] Originally by: Leilani Solaris I just finished reading it and would like to thank Tony Gonzales for writing and excellent novel. I enjoyed it from start to finish. I know there was a thread about the book somewhere else but i'm too lazy to look for it right now . Glad you enjoyed it mate, confirming i am the "Tony Gonzales" mentioned in the OP, isk as thanks is fine by me.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2008.10.03 15:26:00 - [3] Originally by: Rifter Drifter Glad you enjoyed it mate, confirming i am the "Tony Gonzales" mentioned in the OP, isk as thanks is fine by me. Impersonating a CCP employee is against the EULA. -------- Ideas for: Mining
Jana Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.10.03 15:34:00 - [4] Originally by: Rifter Drifter Originally by: Leilani Solaris I just finished reading it and would like to thank Tony Gonzales for writing and excellent novel. I enjoyed it from start to finish. I know there was a thread about the book somewhere else but i'm too lazy to look for it right now . Glad you enjoyed it mate, confirming i am the "Tony Gonzales" mentioned in the OP, isk as thanks is fine by me. Confirming I will receive the ISK. Join New Eden Research today and never worry about queues again!
SuckySycky5dolla	Posted - 2008.10.03 15:42:00 - [5] Thats some bullcrap! I can't probe out any Terran stuffs in New Eden. Jamyl is a haxxxor!
Korizan	Posted - 2008.10.03 16:21:00 - [6] Signed
Zephyr Rengate Comply Or Die G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.10.03 16:46:00 - [7] its crap.
mentalmonkey Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2008.10.03 16:57:00 - [8] Originally by: Jana Clant Originally by: Rifter Drifter Originally by: Leilani Solaris I just finished reading it and would like to thank Tony Gonzales for writing and excellent novel. I enjoyed it from start to finish. I know there was a thread about the book somewhere else but i'm too lazy to look for it right now . Glad you enjoyed it mate, confirming i am the "Tony Gonzales" mentioned in the OP, isk as thanks is fine by me. Confirming I will receive the ISK. Sorry posted with alt
Pesky LaRue Minmatar L.O.S.T. Defence Force	Posted - 2008.10.03 19:09:00 - [9] Originally by: Zephyr Rengate its crap. i agree, i thought it was a very substandard novel. it wasn't exactly bad, but there was certainly very little that i felt was actually 'good'. lame characterization, pointless plots, throwaway characters, clumsy writing/cheap hyperbole, and terrible, terrible editing. hoping the next EVE novel is better ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++
Rhatar Khurin Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2008.10.03 19:14:00 - [10] Edited by: Rhatar Khurin on 03/10/2008 19:15:01 I think Mr Gonzales has a wierd fetish about "sexual violation" also, he did seem to whack it in whenever possible. Made me feel quite sickened a few times.
Callib Gor'Karrithe Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.03 19:44:00 - [11] Edited by: Callib Gor''Karrithe on 03/10/2008 19:43:54 Really? I just thought it showed as a sign that he reads too much of Anne Rice's work... Read "The Vampire Armand"... well, I'm pretty sure that was the one.
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2008.10.03 21:03:00 - [12] Edited by: SoftRevolution on 03/10/2008 21:04:34 It was OK. It was better than some alleged "classics" of sci fi I've read. I felt like the jumping around was a bit much. Kind of didn't allow enough room for the characters to develop really. Some of them were just there which seemed slightly clumsy. That's OK for the chronicles because they're short stories but for a novel it felt a bit jumpy. This also meant the plot felt a bit disjointed too. And yeah, I wouldn't let the author open any bottles for me
Maceross Fleet Navigators	Posted - 2008.10.03 21:14:00 - [13] I liked the book too, although I agree it seemed a bit jumpy between the different plots. could have almost done with a different book about each main character as it where. Still im looking forward to more EVE books it made a surprisingly good subject matter.
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.10.03 21:44:00 - [14] Edited by: Verone on 03/10/2008 21:44:50 Personally I think he writes very well, however the proofreading and editing team used should be shot for some of the typos that made it through to print. As for the story, I fully enjoyed the parts set planetside with Heth, leading up to and including the Caldari constructions revolt, as well as all the parts on board the Retford. Excellently written, really well put together. Sadly the whole storyline for me fell apart when "The Broker" arrived, and promptly god-moded his way through the entire storyline. Matters only got worse when Sarum returned as a telepathic psychic and started messing with terran technology and immensely overpowerful ancient superweapons.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.10.03 21:49:00 - [15] i personally enjoyed it , i liked how the novel, although jumping around it kept you in the development in the story as in the same time with other events that are happening in new eden. as a gallente purist i am sicked with tibus and all caldari can burn... naow build more biatches, build as if you lives depended on it
Daelin Blackleaf	Posted - 2008.10.03 22:11:00 - [16] Edited by: Daelin Blackleaf on 03/10/2008 22:13:35 Originally by: Verone Personally I think he writes very well, however the proofreading and editing team used should be shot for some of the typos that made it through to print. Volunteering for the firing squad. Also writing within someone elses world with the expectation to represent all four major factions to a high degree and having to incorporate plot elements decided ahead of time within a strictly limited pagecount does not make for easy writing.
Pesky LaRue Minmatar L.O.S.T. Defence Force	Posted - 2008.10.03 22:14:00 - [17] Originally by: Rhatar Khurin Edited by: Rhatar Khurin on 03/10/2008 19:15:01 I think Mr Gonzales has a wierd fetish about "sexual violation" also, he did seem to whack it in whenever possible. Made me feel quite sickened a few times. i 100% agree - he likes to use the word r@pe more often than is either necessary and seems to use it as a replacement for other, more suitable words, presumably because he thinks it either sounds cool or has some kind of impact. ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++
Daelin Blackleaf	Posted - 2008.10.03 22:17:00 - [18] Given that the word volumetric turns up more frequently I shouldn't worry about it too much, unless your personally disturbed by such words in which case reading fiction based on a "cold dark universe", reading horror or the news in general, listening to the radio, or watching TV are probably all bad ideas.
Gasi Kobayashi Lone Starr Corporation	Posted - 2008.10.03 22:38:00 - [19] tl;dr pls?
C4rnag3 Flawless. Resurgency	Posted - 2008.10.03 22:59:00 - [20] are there any plans for a converion to other languages?
Pesky LaRue Minmatar L.O.S.T. Defence Force	Posted - 2008.10.04 00:00:00 - [21] Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf Given that the word volumetric turns up more frequently I shouldn't worry about it too much, unless your personally disturbed by such words in which case reading fiction based on a "cold dark universe", reading horror or the news in general, listening to the radio, or watching TV are probably all bad ideas. congrats. you get the prize for missing the point. ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++
Daelin Blackleaf	Posted - 2008.10.04 03:38:00 - [22] Originally by: Pesky LaRue congrats. you get the prize for missing the point. I shall treasure it always. On a more serious note what, exactly, is your point?
Daraasi Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.04 03:44:00 - [23] -The broker = lazy, lazy writing. -Vitoc became some bizarre super ******, god knows how anyone on it would actually be able to pilot a ship, the purpose for which it was developed. -The Ammatar have remarkable foresight given that they began to collaborate with the Amarrians god knows how long before the destruction of the starkmanir. -Why are all his female characters described as astonishingly beautiful. Once I started noticing that it was very annoying to read. -How is Karsoth, the nominal head of a deeply religious Empire, awash with independent factions like the Speakers of Truth, supposed to get away with being a child molesting Baron Harkonen figure. Everything about him screamed 'IÆm a secret blood raider' and no-one in an empire of billions noticed for years. -Jamyl Sarum and her psychic powers are totally inappropriate for Eve, and utterly unnecessary, she too, stunning beautiful. There were loads more plot holes and glaring PF errors but thinking about the book in general isnÆt a pleasant experience
Vabjekf	Posted - 2008.10.04 04:28:00 - [24] Originally by: Daraasi -The broker = lazy, lazy writing. -Vitoc became some bizarre super ******, god knows how anyone on it would actually be able to pilot a ship, the purpose for which it was developed. -The Ammatar have remarkable foresight given that they began to collaborate with the Amarrians god knows how long before the destruction of the starkmanir. -Why are all his female characters described as astonishingly beautiful. Once I started noticing that it was very annoying to read. -How is Karsoth, the nominal head of a deeply religious Empire, awash with independent factions like the Speakers of Truth, supposed to get away with being a child molesting Baron Harkonen figure. Everything about him screamed 'IÆm a secret blood raider' and no-one in an empire of billions noticed for years. -Jamyl Sarum and her psychic powers are totally inappropriate for Eve, and utterly unnecessary, she too, stunning beautiful. There were loads more plot holes and glaring PF errors but thinking about the book in general isnÆt a pleasant experience Her powers are appropriate because she is the corporeal manifestation of the will of God, come to cleanse the heretics and reinstate the old ways cast out by the false emperors! But i do hear this book has plot holes. I would like to read it, i wish my local book store had it. Im always reading a book, but when im reading one i don't feel like ordering a book online, and when im getting to the end of the book im currently reading i freak out and run to the store and buy a new one. Come on CCP cant you like, offer an e-version for $20 or something? Link it to our eve account, start a whole series of content you can buy in electronic format that is linked to your account. It would be a smash! I promise i wont pirate it ^__^ I can read it on my eee pc.
Pesky LaRue Minmatar L.O.S.T. Defence Force	Posted - 2008.10.04 05:43:00 - [25] Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf Originally by: Pesky LaRue congrats. you get the prize for missing the point. I shall treasure it always. On a more serious note what, exactly, is your point? my point is that i'm not as offended by the use of the word or the description of the act as i am by cheap, shoddy writing and using that word out of context, repeatedly, smacked of just that. the book wasn't absolutely terrible but it was on a par with a novel-length piece of fan-fiction and the fact it was his first novel showed in a variety of places and on a number of levels. some of the plot-lines (such as Heth and the Caldari) were genuinely interesting, most of it was purile and cliched and nonsensical and it becomes apparent that with some of the characters & subplots he obviously just ran out of steam and either didn't know what to do next so just wrote them out clumsily or abandoned the plots or descended further into cliche. very little of the characterisation was of any substance and almost everyone in it was so painfully two dimensional that they are almost the epitome of a cardboard cutout. the dialogue was, again, filled with cliche and hyperbole and none of it rang very true, which held true for the motivations of most of the characters, both major and minor. i normally zip through books in a matter of nights and i can't remember the last time i didn't finish a book i was reading but EA took me, literally, weeks to work my way through and a number of times i did consider not finishing it because beyond the obvious ties to EVE, there was very little about it that compelled me to read further. now, if you want to take that all out of context again and suggest that my dislike of certain words being used in a frat-boy/teen-age freak kind of way and paint me as someone who should confine their reading to light subjects, then go for it. you'll still be missing the point.
Daelin Blackleaf	Posted - 2008.10.04 22:17:00 - [26] A valid view, and thankyou for clarifying your point. But it has very little to do with your post complaining specifically about the overuse of a certain word which is far from being one the novels greatest flaws. You picked that word out from all the other valid complaints about the novel, given that the word doesn't specifically bother you and that you weren't merely trying to cause drama or find an excuse to doge the word-filter one has to ask why? Why specifically that complaint? Why not "volumetric", or "could care less", or any of the criticisms you brought up in your last post?
Roxanna Kell Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.10.04 22:46:00 - [27] Since there is more people that told me this is crap than good, i would rather go with the majority. not to mention a 3 out of 5 rating on amazon.com. People did mention that the book was written for funs mainly. Quote: There is no Dishonor in winning fools, so do it any way you can.
Pesky LaRue Minmatar L.O.S.T. Defence Force	Posted - 2008.10.04 23:38:00 - [28] Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf A valid view, and thankyou for clarifying your point. But it has very little to do with your post complaining specifically about the overuse of a certain word which is far from being one the novels greatest flaws. You picked that word out from all the other valid complaints about the novel, given that the word doesn't specifically bother you and that you weren't merely trying to cause drama or find an excuse to doge the word-filter one has to ask why? Why specifically that complaint? Why not "volumetric", or "could care less", or any of the criticisms you brought up in your last post? glad we found some common ground - but if you look at my first post i didn't mention that specifically, i was agreeing with the poster above me when i did mention it. i stand by my complaint that he uses that word a bunch of times when he could have picked something else that was more suitable but i agree, that's just one criticism from a plethora of choices. ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++

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