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![Bast's Cleric Bast's Cleric](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1031188722/portrait?size=64)
Bast's Cleric
Amarr 24th Imperial Reserves
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Posted - 2008.10.04 11:35:00 -
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What happens to all the Assets on the Perma Banned accounts? Do the t2 BPOs they have get Re-seeded for Lotto or are they Forever lost? what about any Rare ships?
Why not Raffle them off in game? a Huge X-mas Giveaway Raffle? One Character from every account gets entered automatically and then x-mas morning the winners are announced and have the stuff in their hanger once DT is done. -
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![Shintai Shintai](https://images.evetech.net/characters/147655958/portrait?size=64)
Shintai
Gallente Balad Naran Orbital Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.10.04 11:48:00 -
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![Jana Clant Jana Clant](https://images.evetech.net/characters/820500109/portrait?size=64)
Jana Clant
New Dawn Corp New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.10.04 11:49:00 -
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Edited by: Jana Clant on 04/10/2008 11:49:10 The T2 BPO lottery isn't working anymore. With invention, there is no point, just let the BPOs die off one by one. |
![Grarr Dexx Grarr Dexx](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1835221413/portrait?size=64)
Grarr Dexx
Amarr The Cosa Nostra La Cosa Nostra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.04 13:20:00 -
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permanently banned
Everything goes bye bye.
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![Chribba Chribba](https://images.evetech.net/characters/196379789/portrait?size=64)
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.04 15:04:00 -
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afaik - rumors - talk: banned accounts are banned. T2 BPOs are not reseeded. asssets are freezed, Nothing returned.
But this is just speculations and word of rumors. I have yet to see a T2 BPO be reseeded tho. afaik that has never happened.
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![Asestorian Asestorian](https://images.evetech.net/characters/813537556/portrait?size=64)
Asestorian
Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.10.04 15:21:00 -
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Well, considering that CCP admit that the BPO lottery was a mistake in the first place, at this point it wouldn't make any sense to attempt to reseed any BPOs that are effectively removed from the game by banning an account. As for rare ships, that's another matter. I wouldn't imagine they would do anything with them though to be honest.
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Originally by: CCP Atropos Destiny Balls
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![fityone cents fityone cents](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1399224659/portrait?size=64)
fityone cents
radiated space gerbils Shadow Donkeys
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Posted - 2008.10.04 15:23:00 -
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I would guess that with the advent of invention it is not as critical to keep tech 2 bpo's in production to feed product to the market. Given that I would make an assumption that they are not reseeded, rather left as they were.
Now for another question If the account is perma banned - does it get deleted to reclaim the database space from the items and information of the account?
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![Asestorian Asestorian](https://images.evetech.net/characters/813537556/portrait?size=64)
Asestorian
Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.10.04 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: fityone cents Now for another question If the account is perma banned - does it get deleted to reclaim the database space from the items and information of the account?
Probably not. Not sure there is any point really. Also, it's possible they keep things as they are in case they decide later that they shouldn't have banned the account and decide to make it active again. Probably the safest thing to do considering that they probably don't have much issue with database space as it is.
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Originally by: CCP Atropos Destiny Balls
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![Amateratsu Amateratsu](https://images.evetech.net/characters/357262685/portrait?size=64)
Amateratsu
Caldari Terra Incognita Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.10.04 15:39:00 -
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I would imagine that the account is frozen and left untouched, since there is always a possibility that the account may be unbanned...
If they remove the assets or delete the account, then there is not chance of recovery. á
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![Rodj Blake Rodj Blake](https://images.evetech.net/characters/383783955/portrait?size=64)
Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.04 15:50:00 -
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I believe that when an account is banned, everything on that account reamins untouched - it's just that the player can't log on. |
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![Berious Berious](https://images.evetech.net/characters/212676285/portrait?size=64)
Berious
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.04 16:41:00 -
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Edited by: Berious on 04/10/2008 16:41:25
Originally by: Chribba I have yet to see a T2 BPO be reseeded tho. afaik that has never happened.
Way back in the mists of time I seem to remember CCP saying they reseeded destroyed T2 BPO if they haven't been used to build anything yet. That Large Armour Rep II BPO that got popped in a shuttle got reseeded IIRC.
I could well be talking shit though.
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![Wendat Huron Wendat Huron](https://images.evetech.net/characters/120521004/portrait?size=64)
Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.10.04 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Asestorian Well, considering that CCP admit that the BPO lottery was a mistake in the first place, at this point it wouldn't make any sense to attempt to reseed any BPOs that are effectively removed from the game by banning an account. As for rare ships, that's another matter. I wouldn't imagine they would do anything with them though to be honest.
Where and when did they admit this? |
![EliteSlave EliteSlave](https://images.evetech.net/characters/742428350/portrait?size=64)
EliteSlave
Minmatar M. Corp Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.10.04 18:02:00 -
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Nothing happens to the Acct. even if you are perma-banned, there is still ways of recourse. so they do not touch the acct.
all they do is change the acct status of Acctlogin:pass to Acctlogin:fail
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![Asestorian Asestorian](https://images.evetech.net/characters/813537556/portrait?size=64)
Asestorian
Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.10.04 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron
Originally by: Asestorian Well, considering that CCP admit that the BPO lottery was a mistake in the first place, at this point it wouldn't make any sense to attempt to reseed any BPOs that are effectively removed from the game by banning an account. As for rare ships, that's another matter. I wouldn't imagine they would do anything with them though to be honest.
Where and when did they admit this?
I don't remember to be honest. It could have been a dev blog, a forum post, an interview on EVE TV, something from the fanfest. However, I'm sure they have said that if they could go back the T2 lottery would not exist.
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Originally by: CCP Atropos Destiny Balls
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![El'essar Viocragh El'essar Viocragh](https://images.evetech.net/characters/443090171/portrait?size=64)
El'essar Viocragh
Minmatar Meltd0wn iPOD Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.04 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba afaik - rumors - talk: banned accounts are banned. T2 BPOs are not reseeded. asssets are freezed, Nothing returned.
But this is just speculations and word of rumors. I have yet to see a T2 BPO be reseeded tho. afaik that has never happened.
I think I remember reading an old devblog about a busted t2 cartel in which some bpos got reseeded. -- [17:47] <Mephysto> its dead, jim |
![Tao Han Tao Han](https://images.evetech.net/characters/716190993/portrait?size=64)
Tao Han
Ginnungagaps Rymdfarargille Blade.
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Posted - 2008.10.04 18:48:00 -
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They did reseed BPOs before invention was introduced, BPOs lost in battle or banned charatcers was indeed reseeded.
But now with invention I highly doubt they will, but I do not know for certain. |
![Jinx Barker Jinx Barker](https://images.evetech.net/characters/381848405/portrait?size=64)
Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.10.04 20:57:00 -
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Edited by: Jinx Barker on 04/10/2008 20:57:53 1) CCP never deletes an account - even if it is banned - it remains in DB
2) As far as I know, and it has been asked before during fanfest from a number of Devs, CCP keeps the banned account frozen till the end of times. That includes everything that account/character held: BPOs, ISK, Ships, Exotic Dancers, etc. So everything just STOPS.
3) CCP has complete discretion when it comes to banning, and unbanning the accounts.
4) Think of the "perma-ban" as a "life sentence" and CCP has the authority to lift that "life sentence" should evidence be presented that the party was not guilty of whatever infraction they were accused of, or just to be merciful and magnanimous - yea right.
As such, they keep the stuff intact and inaccessible till the last hard drive stops spinning on the servers and the Canary Wharf gets swept under by the encroaching Thames, or London gets destroyed by some super-virus that would make all people kill each other and empty out the city in weeks.![Cool](/images/icon_cool.gif)
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![Jacob Mei Jacob Mei](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1049753116/portrait?size=64)
Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.10.05 18:10:00 -
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If someone who has a T2 BPO actually went and did something that might get them banned you can bet your rear that they likely thought ahead and placed the T2 BPO in an accessable location for them, such as a privately owned corporations hanger or floating in a GSC in space to be later picked up by the players new account.
Unless CCP actively practices enforcing perm ban's in which the player in question can not come back to play EvE a permaban is a slap on the wrist for a T2 BPO owner. And even then thats not a stop gap as they could simply fund their account with GTC, no paper trail. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase:
Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
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![MooKids MooKids](https://images.evetech.net/characters/289029544/portrait?size=64)
MooKids
Caldari Dark Echo Engineering
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Posted - 2008.10.05 20:22:00 -
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I think the only things they would take away would be items gained illegally (duped items, bought ISK, etc.). Everything else remains intact as far as I know. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |
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