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Manadar Lightbringer	Posted - 2008.10.08 15:23:00 - [1] I'm trying to fit a harbinger for pvp and I was just looking for suggestions on what modules to put on the thing. Any advice would help.
Diomidis Amarr Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.08 15:55:00 - [2] Harbinger - All around PvP setup Heat Sink II (Bonus Slot) Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Hammerhead II x5 = max dps, slow tracking, low speed or Vespa II x5 = good compromise with second best dps, nice speed and tracking Valkyries II x5 = the fastest kind, nice against anything faster than you To keep things cheap...no rigs (you could use trimarks but these are both expensive and make it slower). Down in the "Bonus slot" you can fit either a Heat Sink for more dmg, EANM II for more EHP, Medium Armor Repper for some not impressive solo-repping etc. Join the Biggest Greek Corp! www.Mythos-eve.com - Join Mythos Channel in game!
Furb Killer Gallente Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.10.08 16:05:00 - [3] [Harbinger, PVP] 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Adaptive Nano Plating II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Small Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 150 Warp Disruptor I Stasis Webifier II Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M [empty high slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hammerhead II x5 You can swap eanm for another heatsink and drones for ecm if you want.
Linsyn	Posted - 2008.10.08 16:46:00 - [4] PVP Harbinger 1600mm RT plate heat sink II x 3 EANM II Adaptive nano II DC II Y-S AB Scram web sensor booster (scan script) Heavy Pulse II x 7 smarty offlined (for overheating) Ancillary current Trimark x 2 Max skills with Hammerhead IIs something like 785 DPS with conflag can't fit 1600 and mwd so good for after speed nerf if it happens
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.10.08 16:48:00 - [5] AB setup is fail. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Galliana Foresta Gallente Fleeting Moments of Insanity	Posted - 2008.10.08 17:24:00 - [6] Originally by: Cpt Branko AB setup is fail. Cpt Branko is fail. AB setup is decent. HIRING\|KB\|PRESS
Greckor Monmouth THE FINAL STAND	Posted - 2008.10.08 18:10:00 - [7] Originally by: Galliana Foresta Originally by: Cpt Branko AB setup is fail. Cpt Branko is fail. AB setup is decent. except for the AB
Diomidis Amarr Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.08 18:27:00 - [8] After the speed nerf BCs will be in even greater need for a MWD! Bubbles in 0.0 will remain large, anchored large bubbles even larger. BSs and BCs will need MWD out of them no-matter what... Some blaster or even AC ships might get screwed a bit cause getting past that 9km T2 Scram barrier with your MWD "off" will be a pain and fighting in optimal range even rarer than it currently is, but the range on those Pulses makes the Harbi differ. Anyways, too many compromises trying to fit both HP IIs and 1600mm RT instead of the "tried out" FMPs...removing the MWD is not an option - downgrading to best named or T1 could be - for cost and/or fitting requirements etc. Join the Biggest Greek Corp! www.Mythos-eve.com - Join Mythos Channel in game!
MalVortex Reaper Industries Eternal Rapture	Posted - 2008.10.08 18:34:00 - [9] No, Harbinger w/o MWD is fail. You have sexeh sexeh Pulse Scorch range, no AB = no way to dictate range and exploit that range. Then we have all the standard uses of MWDs: fast aligning, burning back to gate, burning out of bubble, closing to firing range for targets "nearby" but a dozen KM out of your firing/scramble range.....
Linsyn	Posted - 2008.10.08 18:34:00 - [10] Originally by: Diomidis After the speed nerf BCs will be in even greater need for a MWD! Bubbles in 0.0 will remain large, anchored large bubbles even larger. BSs and BCs will need MWD out of them no-matter what... Some blaster or even AC ships might get screwed a bit cause getting past that 9km T2 Scram barrier with your MWD "off" will be a pain and fighting in optimal range even rarer than it currently is, but the range on those Pulses makes the Harbi differ. Anyways, too many compromises trying to fit both HP IIs and 1600mm RT instead of the "tried out" FMPs...removing the MWD is not an option - downgrading to best named or T1 could be - for cost and/or fitting requirements etc. Luckily a lot of people think a MWD is a must just as you do, plus there aren't bubbles everywhere apart from 0.0 which has some but even then its not every gate and why not use a scout in 0.0, i.e. a mwd isn't a must in a gate camp for example. Also if the speed nerf hits will a bubble shut down a mwd...... I haven't a clue BUT lets say it does will that make everyone not move in 0.0? Sorry but you chose one example of when a mwd is needed and I'd still prefer heavy pulse over focused but like everything its personal preference
Diomidis Amarr Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.08 19:24:00 - [11] MalVortex gave more than one examples where the almost triple speed a MWD gives over a simple AB could make a huge difference. Even if you are not engaging in 0.0 space - say for FW fights, low-sec pirating etc, burning back to a gate, MWD-aligning to warp out in cases of emergency etc are things I believe regular pvpers are doing all the time - at least when they are not confidently blobbing each and every gate. The HP II setup requires either downgrading you plate, fitting no MWD or fitting an expensive rig for PG, something that beats the purpose of having a BC the first place, as a T1 Geddon can do more DPS and boost more EHP for the same or less money. The huge range with T2 Pulses and scorch is also a nice advantage. Surely having full tackle on a Geddon is not as viable as with a Harbi, but align times, cap stability etc are comparable. Locking times are a bit slow, but if you want DPS and EHPs, just fit 1-2 SBs on the Geddon and you are O.K. The Harbi will veeery rarely be the primary tackler in a gang, tho most Geddons get to be the top dmg dealers...figure the difference. So when it's down to max dmg, the Harbi is not as effective as the Geddon...the Harbi provides versatility, and that's where some compromises (downgrading to FMPs) has to be made. Join the Biggest Greek Corp! www.Mythos-eve.com - Join Mythos Channel in game!
el gr33ko	Posted - 2008.10.08 19:55:00 - [12] maybe somthing like this: [lows] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Damage Control II Type-D Power Core Modification: Reaction Control Inertia Stabilizers II [mids] Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Large Shield Extender II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Large Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I [highs] Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M [empty high slot] Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I Hammerhead II x5 or Vespa EC-600
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.10.08 19:58:00 - [13] Originally by: Manadar Lightbringer I'm trying to fit a harbinger for pvp and I was just looking for suggestions on what modules to put on the thing. Any advice would help. Mind telling us what kind of pvp youre going for? Some setups are utterly useless if you consider the pvp type you can put them in use for. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage
Nahzgul Senate and People of Rome A.X.I.S	Posted - 2008.10.08 20:16:00 - [14] Edited by: Nahzgul on 08/10/2008 20:16:36 [Harbinger, Basic] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Adaptive Nano Plating II Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M [empty high slot] Anti-Thermic Pump I Anti-Kinetic Pump I Anti-Explosive Pump I Vespa II x5
MalVortex Reaper Industries Eternal Rapture	Posted - 2008.10.08 20:23:00 - [15] Originally by: Nahzgul Edited by: Nahzgul on 08/10/2008 20:16:36 [Harbinger, Basic] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Adaptive Nano Plating II Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M [empty high slot] Anti-Thermic Pump I Anti-Kinetic Pump I Anti-Explosive Pump I Vespa II x5 Armor resist rigs cost the same amount of trimarks but give less EHP gain. If your armor rigging for buffer, trimarks > all.
Nahzgul Senate and People of Rome A.X.I.S	Posted - 2008.10.08 20:31:00 - [16] Originally by: MalVortex Originally by: Nahzgul Edited by: Nahzgul on 08/10/2008 20:16:36 [Harbinger, Basic] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Adaptive Nano Plating II Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M [empty high slot] Anti-Thermic Pump I Anti-Kinetic Pump I Anti-Explosive Pump I Vespa II x5 Armor resist rigs cost the same amount of trimarks but give less EHP gain. If your armor rigging for buffer, trimarks > all. Yeah sorry I thought they were cheeper
Tiresias Bishop	Posted - 2008.10.09 02:31:00 - [17] Hey I'm with Linsyn on this one, far better to have the 7 heavy pulse II's on the harb than fit an mwd 'just incase' you find yourself in a bubble. I mean hell, bubbles are usually manned by a big enough gang to blow you to pieces before your MWD kicks in anyway. Sacrifice a little speed for alot of damage. Fit an AB. Oh and the 'geddon? Not bad certainly for dps but the thing takes a month to align to the gate, especially with plates. The harby at least has some agility to it. Even without a MWD.
InsanlyEvlPerson Gallente Night-Stalkers	Posted - 2008.10.09 02:43:00 - [18] any laser ganker without biggest guns and at least 3x HS makes me a sad panda... [Harbinger, New Setup 1] 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II J5 Prototype Warp Inhibitor I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator F-b10 Nominal Capacitor Regenerator Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive [empty high slot] Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hammerhead I x5 drop the 4th HS for an EANM (T1 or faction due to fitting) for an extra 3k EHP for a loss of 50 or so dps... --------------------------------------------- I may be a bit over Zealot, but i cant help myself, its the best investment i ever made!
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.10.09 10:15:00 - [19] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 09/10/2008 10:17:59 Originally by: Tiresias Bishop Hey I'm with Linsyn on this one, far better to have the 7 heavy pulse II's on the harb than fit an mwd 'just incase' you find yourself in a bubble. I mean hell, bubbles are usually manned by a big enough gang to blow you to pieces before your MWD kicks in anyway. Sacrifice a little speed for alot of damage. Fit an AB. (a) Point of MWD is not just bubbles. It's general GTFO ability, and range control ability. (b) It's not 'little speed'. The difference between MWD speed and AB speed is enormous. (c) MWD isn't a neccesity only for 0.0. On a BC, it's a neccesity everywhere. If you want HPLs, drop to a 800mm plate. Also, get this: Unless all the gangs you fight sit in a 5km sphere and you drop on top of them in a Harbringer, you are sacrificing damage by not fitting a MWD, and much more damage then the FMP->HPL shift, too. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint

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