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C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
11
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Posted - 2012.03.31 00:22:00 -
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So traders sit in station passing market chips back and forth
Everyone else just stockpiles there goods nearby till you get bored
You fail to realise it is NOT carebears who need to ship massive amounts of military equipment out
What you going to do hotdrop a titan and reinforce Jita 4-4 
Tactical exellence on the part of FailSquad once again  |

Deryk Kyeld
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
38
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Posted - 2012.03.31 00:45:00 -
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You obviously do not understand null-sec economics. |

Revolution Rising
Gentlemen of Better Ilk
250
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Posted - 2012.03.31 00:56:00 -
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Deryk Kyeld wrote:You obviously do not understand null-sec economics.
Actually I disagree. I believe it was actually Mittani in 2010 fanfest that argued for CCP to help with production slots in stations, making the point that if they ran every production slot in deklein for a month making ammo they would use it all up in 5 minutes.
But of course if you disagree with your imperious leader... CSM7 Skype Leak
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Jas Dor
Republic University Minmatar Republic
86
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:00:00 -
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C Genix wrote:
You fail to realise it is NOT carebears who need to ship massive amounts of military equipment out
I expect that goons fully realize the implications of this and embrace them.
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Xander Riggs
The Scope Gallente Federation
106
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:07:00 -
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C Genix wrote:So traders sit in station passing market chips back and forth Everyone else just stockpiles there goods nearby till you get bored You fail to realise it is NOT carebears who need to ship massive amounts of military equipment out What you going to do hotdrop a titan and reinforce Jita 4-4  Tactical exellence on the part of FailSquad once again 
Until goons start blowing up carebears en masse. There are currently no major threats in high security space. The goons have no problem (and have stated their intention to) blow up everything they can get their grubby little mits on. "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
11
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:09:00 -
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Thats the point though theres nothing there to get there mits on |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
375
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:21:00 -
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C Genix wrote:Thats the point though theres nothing there to get there mits on
Also what happens if these Mega rich traders just decide to keep all the military equipment in the warehouse for a month and only trade non volatiles, like ores and such
Then the 'Interdiction' s on you isn't it....
Really all comes down to 'Don't bite the hand that feeds you' Ahahahahahahahahah~ Do it. Do it now. I'm sure you can organize people to do that.
P.S. Try not to lose too much stuff to the market goons.
P.S. DO ITTTTTT~~~ Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
284
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:24:00 -
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3/4's of Jita's traders and freighter pilots don't even know the forums exist.
They are going to die in a fire. Regards,
LCpl. Aiwha-á Senior Recruiter |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
11
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:26:00 -
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4/4 jita traders never leave the station |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
11
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:26:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:C Genix wrote:Thats the point though theres nothing there to get there mits on
Also what happens if these Mega rich traders just decide to keep all the military equipment in the warehouse for a month and only trade non volatiles, like ores and such
Then the 'Interdiction' s on you isn't it....
Really all comes down to 'Don't bite the hand that feeds you' Ahahahahahahahahah~ Do it. Do it now. I'm sure you can organize people to do that. P.S. Try not to lose too much stuff to the market goons. P.S. DO ITTTTTT~~~
Done  |

Xander Riggs
The Scope Gallente Federation
107
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:27:00 -
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C Genix wrote:Thats the point though theres nothing there to get there mits on
Also what happens if these Mega rich traders just decide to keep all the military equipment in the warehouse for a month and only trade non volatiles, like ores and such
Then the 'Interdiction' s on you isn't it....
Really all comes down to 'Don't bite the hand that feeds you'
Are you seriously implying Goons won't just sweep in and steal your industrial base right out from under you? Also, lol at the implication that I'm a goon.
0.0 alliances are swimming in money. Hi-sec fortunes are nothing by comparison to all that moongoo and 0.0 ratting. Shockingly, they could just build all their own gear if you back out of the market. There are also many other trade hubs to avail themselves of.
Besides, lets not act like you won't take the isk if they come knocking. "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |

Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
172
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:29:00 -
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Why ship equipment halfway across the universe when you are going to raid a trade hub? |

ChYph3r
Multiplex Gaming SpaceMonkey's Alliance
44
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:32:00 -
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Aiwha wrote:3/4's of Jita's traders and freighter pilots don't even know the forums exist.
They are going to die in a fire.
I am in charge of bringing the marshmallows and i have a lot of them!!!!!!! FREE THE MITTANI ---- 10058 AMP - Angry Monkey Podcast |

Vricrolatious
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
66
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:37:00 -
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C Genix wrote:Thats the point though theres nothing there to get there mits on
Also what happens if these Mega rich traders just decide to keep all the military equipment in the warehouse for a month and only trade non volatiles, like ores and such
Then the 'Interdiction' s on you isn't it....
Really all comes down to 'Don't bite the hand that feeds you'
Most of us would cheer you on for this, actually. WIDot, Best Dot, Even Sans Dot! -Vric |

Benny Ohu
The Lazy Dragoons True Apathy
46
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:39:00 -
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yes this ice interdiction will never work
dont the goons know they need ice |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
11
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:45:00 -
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Xander Riggs wrote:moongoo and 0.0 ratting..
Oh yes all that isk you blow on Mil tech that you blob up and destroy, while players in the market PVP game judge there succses by there bankroll |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
110
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:47:00 -
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someone doesn't know who owns the PI market
lol "Nullsec alliances will now begin counting reporters on staff along with supercapitals and tech moons. Unironically." - The Mittani |

Xander Riggs
The Scope Gallente Federation
108
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:49:00 -
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C Genix wrote:Xander Riggs wrote:moongoo and 0.0 ratting.. Oh yes all that isk you blow on Mil tech that you blob up and destroy, while players in the market PVP game judge there succses by there bankroll
I'm not a goon, derpo.
I just happen to know that the goons don't give a ****. They measure success on how much they can troll and how much fun they had in the process. When an alliance measures its fortunes in trillions, a billion is a drop in the bucket. They have literally endless income. To act like dropping a few hundred mill for cheap battlecruisers is going to totally damage their wallet is just silly. "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
11
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:58:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:someone doesn't know who owns the PI market
lol
I'm going to guess you think it's the goons
I'm going to tell you Jita traders own pretty much EVERYTHING in Jita, ALL of it , LOCK STOCK AND BARRELL
Get it dufus.. your pathetic little economic arm is a mewling child to these guys |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
11
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:58:00 -
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Xander Riggs wrote:C Genix wrote:Xander Riggs wrote:moongoo and 0.0 ratting.. Oh yes all that isk you blow on Mil tech that you blob up and destroy, while players in the market PVP game judge there succses by there bankroll I'm not a goon, derpo. I just happen to know that the goons don't give a ****. They measure success on how much they can troll and how much fun they had in the process. When an alliance measures its fortunes in trillions, a billion is a drop in the bucket. They have literally endless income. To act like dropping a few hundred mill for cheap battlecruisers is going to totally damage their wallet is just silly.
Hey dufus, when I say 'You' I mean goons.. get it you idiot |

Xander Riggs
The Scope Gallente Federation
110
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Posted - 2012.03.31 02:01:00 -
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C Genix wrote:Xander Riggs wrote:C Genix wrote:Xander Riggs wrote:moongoo and 0.0 ratting.. Oh yes all that isk you blow on Mil tech that you blob up and destroy, while players in the market PVP game judge there succses by there bankroll I'm not a goon, derpo. I just happen to know that the goons don't give a ****. They measure success on how much they can troll and how much fun they had in the process. When an alliance measures its fortunes in trillions, a billion is a drop in the bucket. They have literally endless income. To act like dropping a few hundred mill for cheap battlecruisers is going to totally damage their wallet is just silly. Hey dufus, when I say 'You' I mean goons.. get it you idiot
We're having a direct conversation through text.  "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |

Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.03.31 02:04:00 -
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I have always looked at Jita as Surplus central. Everything you see there is what's left when the military machines meet thier checklist.
That said, Goons in a round about way are actually waging war on all of Null if they can blockade Jita. I'd say 30% of EVE is true High Sec bears the rest are null sec alts. True High Sec bears sell local, seldom making the trek to Jita. By the time High Sec bears good make it to Jita the High Sec bear has already been paid.
Burn it to the ground Goons. Lock it up for a month. I haven't been in Null in a year, on any of my acconts. |

Vince Snetterton
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
34
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Posted - 2012.03.31 03:19:00 -
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Look, I have posted this before.
This is a ploy by Goons to make a lot of ISK. Their traders have already made whatever moves they are going to make.
I am not smart enough to bet what will go up, what will go down. But this burn jita crap is all about making isk.
The amount of numbers of ships the goons are suggesting they are bringing to the party (1800 Tornados as main force) will put a very small dent in FULL Jita traffic for one day, let alone a longer period.
BUT, you start the sell job 30 days before hand, and Jita traffic will be a trickle starting then. Goons won't have to lose many ships to shut down Jita traffic, because no one will be moving in or out by then.
Perception is the key to this new ploy of the goons.
I truly hope that most Eve players don't read these forums and blunder into Jita. If that happens, goons burn through 1800 Tornados in a day, and this all goes away.
IF, however, they metagame and use a ton of media outlets to get the word out, then yeah, they can keep Jita hurting for some time, long enough for their traders to add huge iskies to the goon wallets. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
377
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Posted - 2012.03.31 07:23:00 -
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Vince Snetterton wrote:IF, however, they metagame and use a ton of media outlets to get the word out, then yeah, they can keep Jita hurting for some time, long enough for their traders to add huge iskies to the goon wallets. Very good. Very good.
Can you spread the word so that people will not lose their freighters full of stuff to us? It would be much appreciated, we only want true heros who think they can dock in time before being wasted, not someone who just got their first freighter in Jita and excitedly undocks it and ... opps
Or "guys that gate is red, goons are camping the other side (jita)... if you jumped you're dead."
Sisohiv wrote:I have always looked at Jita as Surplus central. Everything you see there is what's left when the military machines meet thier checklist.
That said, Goons in a round about way are actually waging war on all of Null if they can blockade Jita. I'd say 30% of EVE is true High Sec bears the rest are null sec alts. True High Sec bears sell local, seldom making the trek to Jita. By the time High Sec bears good make it to Jita the High Sec bear has already been paid. Possibly. That is certainly one way to look at it.
If you don't feel like producing tornados, might I reccomend Drakes? Alternatively Rifters, it seems newbies are using them a lot. Of course a lot of Scourge Heavy Missiles (for shooting Raiden. structures) and EMP L (same reason, but with maels) and a generous helping of Scourge Fury Heavy Missiles (for ratting). TIA
tl:dr 1) Make Tornados and 1400mms 2) Sell now or later. Make profit. 3) Ganking of ??? (someone, hopefully not you) 4) File your taxes because of all the income you made 5) CONCORD pays your taxes to highsec incursion runners 6) Inflation ? Who cares, you have your isk, wait a sec, that's now how it works. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

RAP ACTION HERO
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.03.31 07:35:00 -
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lol Professor Alphane i presume? |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
377
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Posted - 2012.03.31 07:39:00 -
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Xander Riggs wrote:I just happen to know that the goons don't give a ****. They measure success on how much they can troll and how much fun they had in the process. When an alliance measures its fortunes in trillions, a billion is a drop in the bucket. They have literally endless income. To act like dropping a few hundred mill for cheap battlecruisers is going to totally damage their wallet is just silly. Eh well, the number of battlecruisers isn't exactly small. The amount is uh, few hundred billion? Of course some money will be made looting and salvaging, but the newbies will get most of that. And no insurance anymore because Concord got smart about paying to people they blew up.
You are pretty right about the first half though.
Unfortunately, this means you must be some kind of goon alt. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
377
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Posted - 2012.03.31 07:42:00 -
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C Genix wrote:What you going to do hotdrop a titan and reinforce Jita 4-4 That would allow far too much sand in the highsec sandbox, so no CCP will not allow it.
We would have spent a month reinforcing and blowing up things in Tinal and maybe elsewhere (Vale perhaps?) so meh, no real likelihood of interest in structure shooting.
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Farrisen
MoaR ChickeN
67
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:13:00 -
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Xander Riggs wrote:
Until goons start blowing up carebears en masse. There are currently no major threats in high security space. The goons have no problem (and have stated their intention to) blow up everything they can get their grubby little Mittens on.
There Fixed it for you 
http://i.imgur.com/DWBuV.png
Originally by: CCP Spitfire: It's because of falcon. |

OfBalance
Caldari State
357
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:18:00 -
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Posting in an "i'm going to **** up the forums with terrible posts until my sub runs out," thread. |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
12
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:57:00 -
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Xander Riggs wrote:C Genix wrote:Xander Riggs wrote:C Genix wrote:Xander Riggs wrote:moongoo and 0.0 ratting.. Oh yes all that isk you blow on Mil tech that you blob up and destroy, while players in the market PVP game judge there succses by there bankroll I'm not a goon, derpo. I just happen to know that the goons don't give a ****. They measure success on how much they can troll and how much fun they had in the process. When an alliance measures its fortunes in trillions, a billion is a drop in the bucket. They have literally endless income. To act like dropping a few hundred mill for cheap battlecruisers is going to totally damage their wallet is just silly. Hey dufus, when I say 'You' I mean goons.. get it you idiot We're having a direct conversation through text. 
No I'm quoting you but addresseing them |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
12
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Posted - 2012.03.31 09:01:00 -
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RAP ACTION HERO wrote:lol Professor Alphane i presume?
Only one Katana wielding Pagan Ninja round here as far as I know
As I say the right people have been told the right stuff......
It's up to them if they act now
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Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
497
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Posted - 2012.03.31 10:48:00 -
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Jita has a T9 Invulnerability Shield. Shhhh...don't let it get around.
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
12
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Posted - 2012.03.31 11:00:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Jita has a T9 Invulnerability Shield. Shhhh...don't let it get around.
Shh they'll know ARC was just a Jovian front |

ElQuirko
Gravit Negotii Rogue Elements.
488
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Posted - 2012.03.31 11:20:00 -
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Xander Riggs wrote: 0.0 alliances are swimming in money. Hi-sec fortunes are nothing by comparison to all that moongoo and 0.0 ratting. Shockingly, they could just build all their own gear if you back out of the market. There are also many other trade hubs to avail themselves of
Love how this guy thinks that CCP aren't removing the nullsec ATM machines...
If we distribute pictures of people, does that mean God can file copyright claims under SOPA? |

Zora'e
Nasty Pope
1
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Posted - 2012.03.31 11:20:00 -
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*loads up several freighters worth of popcorn and flies them to jita*
Get yer popcorn here! popcorn 1000 isk a bag, Get it hot and buttery! Watch the show!
POPCORN! Popcorn here! get it while it's hot! 1000 iskies cheap! In EVE Online...-á-áA Friend will calm you down when you are angry after getting Ganked.., but a Best Friend will fly along beside you commanding a Strike Group singing "Someones Gonna Get It!!!".-á ~Zora'e |

Smoking Blunts
ZC Industries Dark Stripes
217
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Posted - 2012.03.31 11:24:00 -
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i welcome this boost to the other main hubs, even if it only last for a month or two CCP-áare full of words and no action. We will watch what they are doing, for now
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Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
406
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Posted - 2012.03.31 11:26:00 -
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C Genix wrote:Thats the point though theres nothing there to get there mits on
Also what happens if these Mega rich traders just decide to keep all the military equipment in the warehouse for a month and only trade non volatiles, like ores and such
Then the 'Interdiction' s on you isn't it....
Really all comes down to 'Don't bite the hand that feeds you'
Isn't this part of the goal? Destroy the economy?
Fly Safe, Die Hard
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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
968
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Posted - 2012.03.31 11:35:00 -
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C Genix wrote:4/4 jita traders never leave the station
Add: a kind of player that has nothing to fear from CCP, makes gazillions of isk while paying the lowest fees and while being in NPC corps pay almost to never single tax. CCP wants to find how to take isk out of the game? -search mean to heavy tax station trading, after all it's not like if they were not playing the game at all, they're just playing their game witch is the same than wow traders and every game with a market.
Make station trading in npc stations by npc players 17 to 30%, let station owner in null sec decide the amount of tax for trading with a minimum of 15 to 50%. (would love to see this)
Now, this is what "should" be done, but will never be, far too much quitters. |

Prince Kobol
465
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Posted - 2012.03.31 11:44:00 -
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A question Did these guys really pay the goons for protection?
http://www.goonfleet.org/Jita-Opt-Out/blacklist.php |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
13
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Posted - 2012.03.31 11:45:00 -
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Could just be a list of Goon alts, to get the ball rolling  |

Prince Kobol
465
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Posted - 2012.03.31 11:48:00 -
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C Genix wrote:Could just be a list of Goon alts, to get the ball rolling 
I have no desire to have anything to do with this list, just that people must be mad to hand over isk and honestly believe they will not be targeted. |

Mr Stark
Pimpin' Ain't Easy
3
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Posted - 2012.03.31 11:48:00 -
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C Genix wrote:Tactical exellence on the part of FailSquad once again 
Why you pick on Br1ckSquad? |

Hroya
20
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Posted - 2012.03.31 12:06:00 -
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If only this service they are going to provide will in effect accomplish the CSM6 promise to get proper industry going in null sec. Would be a reall change to the game at last.
You go your corridor but. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
381
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Posted - 2012.03.31 23:18:00 -
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Hroya wrote:If only this service they are going to provide will in effect accomplish the CSM6 promise to get proper industry going in null sec. Would be a reall change to the game at last. It might, it might.
There've been people talking about producing tornados (and even a newer person making thrashers). Production slots are much easier to come by in highsec though, thanks to CCP or someone else deciding that CONOCRD will preside over the next eastern factory economy of the world.
Outsourcing to the easy place (where minerals come from).. well when drones get nerfed we'll see. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

EI Digin
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
263
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Posted - 2012.03.31 23:51:00 -
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Didn't want that market hub anyways |

Jita Alt666
980
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Posted - 2012.04.01 04:03:00 -
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What is the Jita Population Capacity (JPC)? When goons determine JPC they will simply log JPC + 1 alts onto the Jita Node at the end of DT. If all these alts are actively camping the undock with the intent of killing anything that undocks they are acting inside of the EULA.
Good luck to my fellow market traders when attempting to log on, during the end of April and early May. |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
1124

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Posted - 2012.04.02 13:11:00 -
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Not constructive or relevant to EVE General Discussion.
Thread locked. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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