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Grant Wyberious
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:15:00 -
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Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to rape Mittani's wife after his address was posted.
Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to rape his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay?
This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM.
https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 |

Ai Shun
517
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:17:00 -
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Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to rape Mittani's wife after his address was posted.
Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to rape his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay?
This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM.
Report it to CCP and the authorities with whatever information you have. Nobody should get away with that kind of behavior - honestly - such a real-life threat is ******* terrible, especially when you target someone's family.
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
626
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:17:00 -
[3] - Quote
yeah guys don't descend to Mittani's level |

Mistress Lilu
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
101
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:18:00 -
[4] - Quote
Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 goon tears best tears. |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
629
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:18:00 -
[5] - Quote
Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to rape Mittani's wife after his address was posted.
Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to rape his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay?
This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. That is just sick. And if true (don't pay attention to EVE radio myself) the individual involved should be reported to their local authorities... |

Grant Wyberious
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:18:00 -
[6] - Quote
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:yeah guys don't descend to Mittani's level That's his level? This is worse. Mittani owned up to the fact and apologized which the guy is still alive by my last count. While others are serious about carrying out their intentions especially to harm his wife. |

Grant Wyberious
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:19:00 -
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Mistress Lilu wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 goon tears best tears. Basically you endorse rape? |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
629
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:20:00 -
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Grant Wyberious wrote:Mistress Lilu wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 goon tears best tears. Basically you endorse ra pe? Seriously, reported for that one. |

Mohr Cowbell
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
290
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:20:00 -
[9] - Quote
This was a terrible post, but I get what you were trying to say. |

Torneach
Hedion University Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:21:00 -
[10] - Quote
To be quite honest, this is the result of several years of frustration on the part of many people.
People need to learn to deal with angst in more effective and civil ways. Like playing hockey. |

Headerman
Quovis CORE Alliance
862
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:22:00 -
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Grant Wyberious wrote:Mistress Lilu wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 goon tears best tears. Basically you endorse ra pe?
goon tears best tears. The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |

Kievan Arakyd
MarSec Industries STR8NGE BREW
17
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:22:00 -
[12] - Quote
Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024
proof? |

Mistress Lilu
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
101
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:23:00 -
[13] - Quote
I am gonna go feed my chickens. |

Grant Wyberious
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:23:00 -
[14] - Quote
Kievan Arakyd wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 proof? (12:05:10 AM) [email protected]/xolve: also- GM Eskimo said 'he took action against' that guy |

Xander Riggs
The Scope Gallente Federation
114
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:23:00 -
[15] - Quote
Torneach wrote:To be quite honest, this is the result of several years of frustration on the part of many people.
People need to learn to deal with angst in more effective and civil ways. Like playing hockey.
Or playing Eve. Actually playing it, I mean. "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |

Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
471
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:23:00 -
[16] - Quote
Grant Wyberious wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:yeah guys don't descend to Mittani's level That's his level? This is worse. Mittani owned up to the fact and apologized which the guy is still alive by my last count. While others are serious about carrying out their intentions especially to harm his wife.
It's not two days later, yet, give it time, wait for the apology.......mm'kay?
Ok seriously, that is ****** up that someone would threaten that. Please tell us that you consider both just as horrid and not just the latest statement on Eve Radio. And yes, I think whoever said that on Eve Radio should get at least a 30d ban or worse. .
We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |

Mass Attack
Lightspeed Ship Yards
108
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:24:00 -
[17] - Quote
Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024
This is what is known as a false flag operation. You get your 'MY PEOPLES' to use alts and post/act out on the side of an issue to discredit it. Please use some common sense. The only ones who would even think of these kind of ridiculous threats are the people who don't understand what all the hub bub is about when a guy encourages people to try to make someone kill themselves in RL. |

Grant Wyberious
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:25:00 -
[18] - Quote
Mass Attack wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 This is what is known as a false flag operation. You get your 'MY PEOPLES' to use alts and post/act out on the opposite side of an issue to discredit it. Please use some common sense. The only ones who would even think of these kind of ridiculous threats are the people who don't understand what all the hub bub is about when a guy encourages people to try to make someone kill themselves in RL. False flag operation? This happened on Eve Radio. |

Twil Akachi
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:26:00 -
[19] - Quote
Mistress Lilu wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 goon tears best tears. Holy ****, you're scum. |

Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
657
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:26:00 -
[20] - Quote
If mitten's family was threatened IRL, the proper place to lodge a complaint is with his local law enforcement, and not the EVE forums via some proxy or goonie attention ***** or sympathizer such as yourself .
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |

Mass Attack
Lightspeed Ship Yards
108
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:26:00 -
[21] - Quote
Grant Wyberious wrote:Mass Attack wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 This is what is known as a false flag operation. You get your 'MY PEOPLES' to use alts and post/act out on the opposite side of an issue to discredit it. Please use some common sense. The only ones who would even think of these kind of ridiculous threats are the people who don't understand what all the hub bub is about when a guy encourages people to try to make someone kill themselves in RL. False flag operation? This happened on Eve Radio.
So something was said on Eve Radio.. I didn't realize that was a secure communications method. Who said it on Eve Radio? Just a voice right? Who did the voice belong to? |

Twil Akachi
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:27:00 -
[22] - Quote
Mass Attack wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 This is what is known as a false flag operation. You get your 'MY PEOPLES' to use alts and post/act out on the side of an issue to discredit it. Please use some common sense. The only ones who would even think of these kind of ridiculous threats are the people who don't understand what all the hub bub is about when a guy encourages people to try to make someone kill themselves in RL. Yes, because goons are going to post his REAL ADDRESS and put his wife in danger to score internet points.
Were you born this stupid or did you have to take a class? |

Grant Wyberious
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:28:00 -
[23] - Quote
Mass Attack wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Mass Attack wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 This is what is known as a false flag operation. You get your 'MY PEOPLES' to use alts and post/act out on the opposite side of an issue to discredit it. Please use some common sense. The only ones who would even think of these kind of ridiculous threats are the people who don't understand what all the hub bub is about when a guy encourages people to try to make someone kill themselves in RL. False flag operation? This happened on Eve Radio. So something was said on Eve Radio.. I didn't realize that was a secure communications method. Who said it on Eve Radio? Just a voice right? Who did the voice belong to? A) Posting of his personal address which was real (Yes, false flag!) B) Threatening to harm his wife which GM Eskimo has apparently promptly banned from the game.
Do you think Goons just get into some private room and go "Hey let's use Mittani's wife as a bargaining chip nevermind that she DOES NOT PLAY THIS GAME" |

Mistress Lilu
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
101
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:28:00 -
[24] - Quote
Doc Fury wrote:If mitten's family was threatened IRL, the proper place to lodge a complaint is with his local law enforcement, and not the EVE forums via some proxy or goonie attention ***** or sympathizer such as yourself .
truelly a wise man, i wanted to say the same thing, but since i only finished 3rd grade and can barelly read and write, fact is i am stupid..thank you. |

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1846
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:28:00 -
[25] - Quote
Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024
Seems the person who did this was immediately punished. Good. Case closed.
Hopefully anyone who attempts OOC harrassment of eve players will be dealt with in a similar fashion in the future.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |

Xander Riggs
The Scope Gallente Federation
114
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:29:00 -
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Love how quickly those delicate sensibilites shift when it happens to someone you don't like. All the white knights suddenly fade into the background when they have to put their money with their mouth is and crusade when its not convenient. "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |

Welsige
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
24
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:29:00 -
[27] - Quote
Mistress Lilu wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 goon tears best tears.
False morals best morals, i supose. ~ 10.058 ~
Free The Mittani |

Mistress Lilu
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
101
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:29:00 -
[28] - Quote
Twil Akachi wrote:Mass Attack wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 This is what is known as a false flag operation. You get your 'MY PEOPLES' to use alts and post/act out on the side of an issue to discredit it. Please use some common sense. The only ones who would even think of these kind of ridiculous threats are the people who don't understand what all the hub bub is about when a guy encourages people to try to make someone kill themselves in RL. Yes, because goons are going to post his REAL ADDRESS and put his wife in danger to score internet points. Were you born this stupid or did you have to take a class? cut your strings, follow the path of the buddha.
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OfBalance
Caldari State
352
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:29:00 -
[29] - Quote
Anyone who equates drunk "kill yourself," (which is about as cliche as smack gets) with -insert IRL address- "i'm going to **** your wife." Is beyond stupid. |

Rory Orlenard
University of Caille Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:30:00 -
[30] - Quote
There is a famous saying .."the human condition" refers to people, why we act the way we do .
This Mattani thing is as good an example as it gets. I think the bottom line is that people taken as a whole are disgusting self-serving bastards but in this case the people piling onto the "Lynch Mattani bandwagon" are just more of the same mentality Mattani used in his comments.
Pretty much it's a lets make that guy look bad so i can appear better.
____________________________________________________________________________________________
After awhile you get tired of waiting for progress in the human condition when you see degradation instead. |

elenasa
E.A.D Alliance Omega Vector
14
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:32:00 -
[31] - Quote
Now people from ALL SIDES can at least grasp why Mittani's actions were wrong and that they should never have been supported by anyone. Because the essential element that his supporters appeared to not quite understand was that fact that out there, in the real world, live quite a few mental people who are prepared to do mental things to others.
Whoever is making these threats against his wife is clearly not of sound mind and needs to be dealt with., |

Mass Attack
Lightspeed Ship Yards
108
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:32:00 -
[32] - Quote
Twil Akachi wrote:Mass Attack wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 This is what is known as a false flag operation. You get your 'MY PEOPLES' to use alts and post/act out on the side of an issue to discredit it. Please use some common sense. The only ones who would even think of these kind of ridiculous threats are the people who don't understand what all the hub bub is about when a guy encourages people to try to make someone kill themselves in RL. Yes, because goons are going to post his REAL ADDRESS and put his wife in danger to score internet points. Were you born this stupid or did you have to take a class?
I'm obviously still working up to your grand master level of idiocy.
An address was posted. Did you drive by and see who lived there? Have you done any due diligence to confirm that it actually is his address? If it is his address.... who most readily has that address? Oh, that's right, HE most readily has that address.... who has the most to gain by something like this being said.. who exactly gains support by things going this far off the deep end... who is that again? Oh yeah, that's right, the guy who started all of this in the first place. So. Lets see, does it make more sense to me that the guy who has at no point ever doing anything to indicate he has any morals would set up a false event in order to discredit the justifiable anger against him for his behavior regarding making someone kill themselves... or the people who have a moral compass that points in such a direction as to actually be angry about it instead going nuts and saying OMGZ lets **** his wife.
yeah, a bunch of people who are angry about RL consequences are going to suddenly flip positions and want to do something like that. Get a grip. Quit being so easy to manipulate. |

Amity Lane
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
184
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:32:00 -
[33] - Quote
Absolutely pathetic...both the person threatening this and the people on this forum who are actually supporting him. Unbelievable. Think what you like of the EVE political spectrum, but this goes way beyond a game.
You're horrible and you should feel horrible.
To GSF/Mittani, I would suggest less posting here and more contacting authorities. This forum is going to do nothing but incite more idiotic trolling and harassment, and the people who can do something about it need to be notified ASAP. |

OfBalance
Caldari State
352
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:33:00 -
[34] - Quote
Rory Orlenard wrote: Pretty much it's a lets make that guy look bad so i can appear better.
I really doubt anyone here smugging over the address/**** thing appears better. In-fact they appear to be sociopaths of a much higher order than anything they could pin on SA members. |

Twil Akachi
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:34:00 -
[35] - Quote
Mass Attack wrote:Twil Akachi wrote:Mass Attack wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 This is what is known as a false flag operation. You get your 'MY PEOPLES' to use alts and post/act out on the side of an issue to discredit it. Please use some common sense. The only ones who would even think of these kind of ridiculous threats are the people who don't understand what all the hub bub is about when a guy encourages people to try to make someone kill themselves in RL. Yes, because goons are going to post his REAL ADDRESS and put his wife in danger to score internet points. Were you born this stupid or did you have to take a class? I'm obviously still working up to your grand master level of idiocy. An address was posted. Did you drive by and see who lived there? Have you done any due diligence to confirm that it actually is his address? If it is his address.... who most readily has that address? Oh, that's right, HE most readily has that address.... who has the most to gain by something like this being said.. who exactly gains support by things going this far off the deep end... who is that again? Oh yeah, that's right, the guy who started all of this in the first place. So. Lets see, does it make more sense to me that the guy who has at no point ever doing anything to indicate he has any morals would set up a false event in order to discredit the justifiable anger against him for his behavior regarding making someone kill themselves... or the people who have a moral compass that points in such a direction as to actually be angry about it instead going nuts and saying OMGZ lets **** his wife. yeah, a bunch of people who are angry about RL consequences are going to suddenly flip positions and want to do something like that. Get a grip. Quit being so easy to manipulate. Christ, you're pathetic. |

Grant Wyberious
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:35:00 -
[36] - Quote
Amity Lane wrote:Absolutely pathetic...both the person threatening this and the people on this forum who are actually supporting him. Unbelievable. Think what you like of the EVE political spectrum, but this goes way beyond a game.
You're horrible and you should feel horrible.
To GSF/Mittani, I would suggest less posting here and more contacting authorities. This forum is going to do nothing but incite more idiotic trolling and harassment, and the people who can do something about it need to be notified ASAP. I've already told Mittani myself to arm himself as it is a right in his state to do so. |

Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
56
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:35:00 -
[37] - Quote
Grant Wyberious wrote:Mass Attack wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 This is what is known as a false flag operation. You get your 'MY PEOPLES' to use alts and post/act out on the opposite side of an issue to discredit it. Please use some common sense. The only ones who would even think of these kind of ridiculous threats are the people who don't understand what all the hub bub is about when a guy encourages people to try to make someone kill themselves in RL. False flag operation? This happened on Eve Radio. I get that you're a big fan of Ron Paul and all that over Vietnam but threatening or encouraging ra pe in any form is never tolerated in any society.
Some Noob Bee alt posting something, trying to get someone else in trouble, beecause he's mad. 
People actually listen to something called Eve radio? If someone said that, they deserve whatever punishment they can be given. If some threat was actually made, this isn't the place to call.....
But here's your real issue, Goon's parade the Meta-game as the Endgame of Eve, so getting anyone that isn't a Goon, Goon pet, or Goon alt to believe you is going to be pretty tough....
Looking to stamp out apiphobia in my lifetime..... |

Grant Wyberious
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:37:00 -
[38] - Quote
Beekeeper Bob wrote:Some Noob Bee alt posting something, trying to get someone else in trouble, beecause he's mad.  People actually listen to something called Eve radio? If someone said that, they deserve whatever punishment they can be given. If some threat was actually made, this isn't the place to call..... But here's your real issue, Goon's parade the Meta-game as the Endgame of Eve, so getting anyone that isn't a Goon, Goon pet, or Goon alt to believe you is going to be pretty tough.... Yes people actually listen to Eve Radio. Unlike you. |

JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
221
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 04:37:00 -
[39] - Quote
Also might be good to take the complaint to whatever hosting service EVE-Radio uses. I bet they wouldn't be too happy about giving out the RL address.... Especially when followed up by threat of **** (forced contact). |

Mass Attack
Lightspeed Ship Yards
108
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 04:37:00 -
[40] - Quote
Sorry to throw the bullshit flag and shut down your herpderprage event on page two. I'm sure you expected this to get more play and help your position. |

Opertone
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
118
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 04:38:00 -
[41] - Quote
Uhhm?
Maybe it's a friendly move?
Maybe it is literal expression of sexual attitude towards Mittani.
Maybe them 3 can be cool after all? No violent acts, just normal 3-some date. |

Mass Attack
Lightspeed Ship Yards
108
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 04:38:00 -
[42] - Quote
JC Anderson wrote:Also might be good to take the complaint to whatever hosting service EVE-Radio uses. I bet they wouldn't be too happy about giving out the RL address.... Especially when followed up by threat of ****.
Of course it would be a good idea. It's a great idea and I cannot wait for the fallout from it because it will lead right back to the goons. |

Grant Wyberious
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 04:39:00 -
[43] - Quote
Mass Attack wrote:JC Anderson wrote:Also might be good to take the complaint to whatever hosting service EVE-Radio uses. I bet they wouldn't be too happy about giving out the RL address.... Especially when followed up by threat of ****. Of course it would be a good idea. It's a great idea and I cannot wait for the fallout from it because it will lead right back to the goons. I'll bet 5 billion isk on that. You don't have the balls, pubbie. |

Degren
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
113
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 04:40:00 -
[44] - Quote
Edit: Nevermind. Just you fucks are crazy hypocritical.
PS: Seriously, super cray |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
629
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 04:40:00 -
[45] - Quote
Mass Attack wrote:Sorry to throw the bullshit flag and shut down your herpderprage event on page two. I'm sure you expected this to get more play and help your position. Yes you spewed lots of BS and should feel terrible.
CCP is already taking action, hopefully including reporting this to the authorities local to whomever made the comment(s). |

Creed Richards
Xoth Inc Omega Vector
4
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 04:43:00 -
[46] - Quote
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:yeah guys don't descend to Mittani's level
No, this is infinitely worse.
|

Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
658
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 04:43:00 -
[47] - Quote
Grant Wyberious wrote:[ I've already told Mittani myself to arm himself as it is a right in his state to do so. Plus I'm sure he's already reported to the authorities because this isn't a laughing matter. If my wife was threatened which I am married, I wouldn't be sitting still myself.
Not empty quoting.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |

Gank'aho
One within we are
7
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 04:44:00 -
[48] - Quote
Grant Wyberious wrote:Mass Attack wrote:JC Anderson wrote:Also might be good to take the complaint to whatever hosting service EVE-Radio uses. I bet they wouldn't be too happy about giving out the RL address.... Especially when followed up by threat of ****. Of course it would be a good idea. It's a great idea and I cannot wait for the fallout from it because it will lead right back to the goons. I'll bet 5 billion isk on that. You don't have the balls, pubbie.
And this, ladies and gents is why eve online has become degraded.....
|

Ai Shun
520
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 04:48:00 -
[49] - Quote
Xander Riggs wrote:Love how quickly those delicate sensibilites shift when it happens to someone you don't like. All the white knights suddenly fade into the background when they have to put their money with their mouth is and crusade when its not convenient.
Moreover, I see Mistress Lilu, Mass Attack and Headerman thus far posting in support of what was threatened against the Mittani and his wife. |

Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
196
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 04:57:00 -
[50] - Quote
Any threat in real life should be handled in the fullest extend of the law and withing the rules of CCP.
Though I do hope the law takes that person down first. **** or threatening with **** is a serious offence and I hope they nail his arse for it.
|

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
380
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 04:57:00 -
[51] - Quote
Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024
I know twitter is THE primary news source but, it would sure be nice if we could see where his address was "posted" and maybe even audio of the Eve Radio broadcast. Maybe a redacted version? http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Grant Wyberious
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
12
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 04:59:00 -
[52] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 I know twitter is THE primary news source but, it would sure be nice if we could see where his address was "posted" and maybe even audio of the Eve Radio broadcast. Maybe a redacted version? And why would I assist in helping distribute Mittani's address even redacted? Are you going to do something drastic like that guy did? |

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1852
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:01:00 -
[53] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 I know twitter is THE primary news source but, it would sure be nice if we could see where his address was "posted" and maybe even audio of the Eve Radio broadcast. Maybe a redacted version?
Some random idiot (player x) posted an address that they claimed belonged to Alexander Gianturco in the eve radio public channel.
A few seconds later another random idiot (player y) posted an extremely inappropriate suggestion.
Both were petitioned.
We have no idea who these people were, what their agendas were, what affiliations they have in game. Maybe they were "pubbie mittans haterz" maybe they were goon false flags, maybe they were bored attention seekers. Doesn't matter, it was a dumb thing to do and both deserve to be punished by CCP. Just as anybody who attempt to bring ooc harrassment against an eve player deserves to be punished.
End of story.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
629
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:02:00 -
[54] - Quote
Edit: Jade covered it... |

External Factors
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:03:00 -
[55] - Quote
I'm sure Mrs Mittani is thrilled her husband plays a video game so much she is getting **** threats on the "video game radio"
Some people need to not play video games. This guy who made this threat and the mittani are 2 of them. |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
380
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:06:00 -
[56] - Quote
Jade Constantine wrote:Princess Bride wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 I know twitter is THE primary news source but, it would sure be nice if we could see where his address was "posted" and maybe even audio of the Eve Radio broadcast. Maybe a redacted version? Some random idiot (player x) posted an address that they claimed belonged to Alexander Gianturco in the eve radio public channel. A few seconds later another random idiot (player y) posted an extremely inappropriate suggestion. Both were petitioned. We have no idea who these people were, what their agendas were, what affiliations they have in game. Maybe they were "pubbie mittans haterz" maybe they were goon false flags, maybe they were bored attention seekers. Doesn't matter, it was a dumb thing to do and both deserve to be punished by CCP. Just as anybody who attempt to bring ooc harrassment against an eve player deserves to be punished. End of story.
If a **** threat was really made it should have been reported to the police as well. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Ai Shun
524
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:07:00 -
[57] - Quote
Jade Constantine wrote:ISome random idiot (player x) posted an address that they claimed belonged to Alexander Gianturco in the eve radio public channel.
A few seconds later another random idiot (player y) posted an extremely inappropriate suggestion.
Both were petitioned.
We have no idea who these people were, what their agendas were, what affiliations they have in game. Maybe they were "pubbie mittans haterz" maybe they were goon false flags, maybe they were bored attention seekers. Doesn't matter, it was a dumb thing to do and both deserve to be punished by CCP. Just as anybody who attempt to bring ooc harrassment against an eve player deserves to be punished.
End of story.
You were certainly not so keen to end your campaign against The Mittani; even after he apologised, tried restitution and was punished. What political game are you playing, Jade? |

Xpaulusx
V I R I I Ineluctable.
35
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:07:00 -
[58] - Quote
All this..............over a video game.  |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
380
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:08:00 -
[59] - Quote
Grant Wyberious wrote:Princess Bride wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 I know twitter is THE primary news source but, it would sure be nice if we could see where his address was "posted" and maybe even audio of the Eve Radio broadcast. Maybe a redacted version? And why would I assist in helping distribute Mittani's address even redacted? Are you going to do something drastic like that guy did?
Maybe you need to look up the definition of the word redacted. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
2023
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:08:00 -
[60] - Quote
I wouldn't take this as a sign as how low the commnity has decended. There have been many mature posts in every thread and many of the more level headed posters have stayed away from the entire issue. This is more of a result of the bandwagoning against the Mittani, that happened this week. For some it was just about the actual issue, but for others it was a priceless opportunity to strike at him. It created a mob mentality with agitators fanning the flames against him and getting people riled up as much as possible.
Taking that in to consideration it's not at all surprising, that some people lose their grip on what is allowed and cross the line in a situation like this. We as a community just need to be clear, that it isn't cool to cross that line and CCP needs to at least temp ban every ************ who doesn't get the hint, that it's not ok to threaten people with RL harm. |

Grant Wyberious
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
14
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:10:00 -
[61] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Princess Bride wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 I know twitter is THE primary news source but, it would sure be nice if we could see where his address was "posted" and maybe even audio of the Eve Radio broadcast. Maybe a redacted version? And why would I assist in helping distribute Mittani's address even redacted? Are you going to do something drastic like that guy did? Maybe you need to look up the definition of the word redacted. And I refuse to assist in your request. Especially when you are a vehement anti-Mittani poster when I can't tell if you're not going do anything drastic against Mittani or not. |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
114
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:11:00 -
[62] - Quote
At this point, I'm pretty sure that countless people petitioned that and it's been dealt with. I doubt that the player in question will be playing EVE for a while. "Nullsec alliances will now begin counting reporters on staff along with supercapitals and tech moons. Unironically." - The Mittani |

External Factors
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:12:00 -
[63] - Quote
This is the most evil, wicked and vile community on the internet. They are attracted to this game because it tickles the evilness inside them. Of course they will destroy mittani over this issue. Why wouldnt they? Its the perfect meta game move to **** up the goons, nothing more. And mittani lost eve because he fell into it on his own. This is a evil sick universe and when someone on high falls all of the peasants will peck and claw at him/her.
Working as intended. |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
114
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:13:00 -
[64] - Quote
External Factors wrote:This is the most evil, wicked and vile community on the internet. They are attracted to this game because it tickles the evilness inside them. Of course they will destroy mittani over this issue. Why wouldnt they? Its the perfect meta game move to **** up the goons, nothing more. And mittani lost eve because he fell into it on his own. This is a evil sick universe and when someone on high falls all of the peasants will peck and claw at him/her.
Working as intended.
If you're trying to legitimize this you're wrong. "Nullsec alliances will now begin counting reporters on staff along with supercapitals and tech moons. Unironically." - The Mittani |

Jack Parr
University of Caille Gallente Federation
22
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:13:00 -
[65] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:At this point, I'm pretty sure that countless people petitioned that and it's been dealt with. I doubt that the player in question will be playing EVE for a while.
is that player going to get a 1 hour eve radio special broadcast too? "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average goon." -á -á-á - The Mittani |

Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
36
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:14:00 -
[66] - Quote
Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024
Well, I suppose I'll have to assume that neither of the two people are goons, cause, ya know, just cause. And I'll have to assume the address is real, cause, well, you know, cause. And I'll have to take the threat seriously, cause, ya know, cause.
But where is our street-wide CSM to say "lol that poster was joking lol"? Where is the screaming Goonswarn to tell me that he didn't even type what he clearly typed? Where oh where are the loudmouths who make it very clear at every point that they will deny and lie about even points posted on live youtube broadcasts to cast doubt on this much more murky situation?
Cause you know, we really don't know who these people are, cause, ya know, we don't have them being thugs in youtube broadcasts in public events so we can know for certain.
Demands that I leave my brain at the door will be ignored. |

External Factors
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:14:00 -
[67] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:External Factors wrote:This is the most evil, wicked and vile community on the internet. They are attracted to this game because it tickles the evilness inside them. Of course they will destroy mittani over this issue. Why wouldnt they? Its the perfect meta game move to **** up the goons, nothing more. And mittani lost eve because he fell into it on his own. This is a evil sick universe and when someone on high falls all of the peasants will peck and claw at him/her.
Working as intended. If you're trying to legitimize this you're wrong.
Of course Im not. Read my post on the 3rd page. Im not shocked that it happened though. |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
629
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:15:00 -
[68] - Quote
External Factors wrote:This is the most evil, wicked and vile community on the internet. They are attracted to this game because it tickles the evilness inside them. Of course they will destroy mittani over this issue. Why wouldnt they? Its the perfect meta game move to **** up the goons, nothing more. And mittani lost eve because he fell into it on his own. This is a evil sick universe and when someone on high falls all of the peasants will peck and claw at him/her.
Working as intended. There is a difference between destroying Mittani (an in game character) and causing distress to a RL person. |

Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
36
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:28:00 -
[69] - Quote
And personally, I don't really want to lay odds on what you have here, but it's either:
1.A trash-talker who would never actually do it. He posted in response to the address posting(possible real). So it wasn't like we have a serious stalker here. We have a mouth-breather who said something dumb and who should be perma-banned for it. Unless of course, we have:
2.Goons pulling Goon stunts.
Could be either. And yeah, it's less serious than Mittani's order cause it's clearly IS some idiot mouthing off via chat. Unless it was a Goon.
He should still be perma-banned for it. If you expect some more extreme reaction, I can't really take trash-talker seriously enough for that. He was an idiot.
And I'd like to point out to self-righteous Goon boys running around, had that idiot been Chairman of the CSM, I would have said: 1.He should lose his position. 2.He should be perma-banned.
So, not really hypocritical, just not taking Text Warrior seriously.
Of course, I do believe the Goons would have harassed that miner. I really do. |

JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
221
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:31:00 -
[70] - Quote
Can we go back to arguing about irrational things that make absolutely no sense please? This whole thing is getting tiresome.
|

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
115
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:31:00 -
[71] - Quote
I love how the conspiracy theorists think that it was a goon alt trying to help Mittani's cause while throwing away his own accounts "Nullsec alliances will now begin counting reporters on staff along with supercapitals and tech moons. Unironically." - The Mittani |

Pillowtalk
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
116
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:32:00 -
[72] - Quote
Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024
I can't stand Al "The Martini" Gianturdo, and I believe him to be psychopathic and to have a broken soul, however, I would also say the same thing about anyone who threatened ****. Whoever said it should be arrested.
You have to understand, for years big Al has worked hard at becoming hated, and he made a conscious choice to put himself into the limelight. Therefore anything he says or does as far as this game is concerned is a valid target for criticism, mocking, and scorn. After all, he has done the same.
However, anything in the physical realm is off limits. I wish no bodily harm on the man, or anyone around him. |

JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
221
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:33:00 -
[73] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:I love how the conspiracy theorists think that it was a goon alt trying to help Mittani's cause while throwing away his own accounts
You!
You lack monocle..... Discuss. |

xavier69
Stark Enterprises LLC
2
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:40:00 -
[74] - Quote
After seeing that video I am 100% certain I will never attend one of the drunk nerd ramble fests.  |

JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
221
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:41:00 -
[75] - Quote
xavier69 wrote:After seeing that video I am 100% certain I will never attend one of the drunk nerd ramble fests. 
Just attend everything but the alliance panel. |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1356
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:46:00 -
[76] - Quote
Corina Jarr wrote:Mass Attack wrote:Sorry to throw the bullshit flag and shut down your herpderprage event on page two. I'm sure you expected this to get more play and help your position. Yes you spewed lots of BS and should feel terrible. CCP is already taking action, hopefully including reporting this to the authorities local to whomever made the comment(s).
Well, since this continues to esculate it'll probably soon be on all the National News broadcast systems world wide. Nice way to kill the game.
As for local authorities, they usually investigate everything connected to it and guess what, the trail ends with the Fanfest video. Local authorities have no problem bringing various charges against different people all the time. |

Disco Knightly
Atheism Personified
9
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:49:00 -
[77] - Quote
JC Anderson wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:I love how the conspiracy theorists think that it was a goon alt trying to help Mittani's cause while throwing away his own accounts You! You lack monocle..... Discuss.
Never thought I'd pine longingly for the good old days of monocle-gate, yet here we are... |

Twil Akachi
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
26
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:53:00 -
[78] - Quote
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:And personally, I don't really want to lay odds on what you have here, but it's either:
1.A trash-talker who would never actually do it. He posted in response to the address posting(possible real). So it wasn't like we have a serious stalker here. We have a mouth-breather who said something dumb and who should be perma-banned for it. Unless of course, we have:
2.Goons pulling Goon stunts.
Could be either. And yeah, it's less serious than Mittani's order cause it's clearly IS some idiot mouthing off via chat. Unless it was a Goon.
He should still be perma-banned for it. If you expect some more extreme reaction, I can't really take trash-talker seriously enough for that. He was an idiot.
And I'd like to point out to self-righteous Goon boys running around, had that idiot been Chairman of the CSM, I would have said: 1.He should lose his position. 2.He should be perma-banned.
So, not really hypocritical, just not taking Text Warrior seriously.
Of course, I do believe the Goons would have harassed that miner. I really do. You are literally excrement. |

Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
123
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:56:00 -
[79] - Quote
JC Anderson wrote:Can we go back to arguing about irrational things that make absolutely no sense please? This whole thing is getting tiresome.
Quote: ThesaurusLegend: Adj.1.tiresome - so lacking in interest as to cause mental weariness tiresome - so lacking in interest as to cause mental weariness; "a boring evening with uninteresting people"; "the deadening effect of some routine tasks"; "a dull play"; "his competent but dull performance"; "a ho-hum speaker who couldn't capture their attention"; "what an irksome task the writing of long letters is"- Edmund Burke; "tedious days on the train"; "the tiresome chirping of a cricket"- Mark Twain; "other people's dreams are dreadfully wearisome" boring, deadening, ho-hum, irksome, tedious, wearisome, dull, slow uninteresting - arousing no interest or attention or curiosity or excitement; "a very uninteresting account of her trip" Source:http://www.thefreedictionary.com/tiresome
Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |

PotatoOverdose
Royal Black Watch Highlanders Flatline.
62
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 05:56:00 -
[80] - Quote
The thing is, goons have been pissing off people for years in all manner of ways (scamming, all sorts of metashit, the list is fairly extensive). Some individuals, those that don't treat eve as a game, have a lot of pent up frustration toward the goons. Now unstable individuals who have been, in their minds, wronged by the goons have an outlet IRL for their pent up frustration.
So now an individual is experiencing consequences irl for the in game actions of many of his corp-mates. And it will probably get worse, because the goons pissed off A LOT of people (and statistically, some of those individuals will be quite unstable).
Its a f'd up situation tbh. |

Basileus Volkan
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
110
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 06:16:00 -
[81] - Quote
Mass Attack wrote:Sorry to throw the bullshit flag and shut down your herpderprage event on page two. I'm sure you expected this to get more play and help your position.
People might think of Goons as utterly amoral people but I assure you we are quite moral within the boundaries of our alliance. (Nonblues are of course fair game) Nobody in Goonswarm would stoop to such a level, especially since we genuinely like Mittens as a person. |

Axis Raikkonen
The Black Legionnares BLACK-MARK
18
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 06:26:00 -
[82] - Quote
I don't know what's worse in this situation:
1) That somebody's wife was actually dragged into this mess with a threat of physical violence, Or 2) Greater than zero people have responded to this incident with "lol mittans had it coming, see how it feels"
I have no doubt that the lunatic who made the threat was probably some bandwaggoning sperglord who felt empowered by a sense of semi-anonymity, but damn. It's the guy's wife, people. Mittens gave out the player's in-game name. Oh no, his spaceships might go boom. Now Mr. and Mrs. Gianturco get to live in fear of physical violence because people don't like an Internet spaceship character.
Protip: EVE isn't real. |

JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
222
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 06:29:00 -
[83] - Quote
I know people keep saying they (goons) started in Eve just to grief and cause problems..
But I don't remember it that way at all. Goon's were a bunch of new players that were getting tired of getting kicked around by the established groups and corporations within the game. They banded together and were quite aggressive in their fighting style.
In fact, the very first time I saw a goon swarm so to speak, was a fleet where every single goon got into a rookie ship to take on and destroy a gang of Battleships. I can't remember for sure but I think it was Goons against the Russians in that fight.
I had a laugh, and found myself often cheering them on back then, as did many other players. But, as anybody can see, things change.
And now, looking at where they are and where they started, is where the true irony is revealed. ;) |

Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
946
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 06:32:00 -
[84] - Quote
JC Anderson wrote:I know people keep saying they (goons) started in Eve just to grief and cause problems..
But I don't remember it that way at all. Goon's were a bunch of new players that were getting tired of getting kicked around by the established groups and corporations within the game. They banded together and were quite aggressive in their fighting style.
In fact, the very first time I saw a goon swarm so to speak, was a fleet where every single goon got into a rookie ship to take on and destroy a gang of Battleships. I can't remember for sure but I think it was Goons against the Russians in that fight.
I had a laugh, and found myself often cheering them on back then, as did many other players. But, as anybody can see, things change.
And now, looking at where they are and where they started, is where the true irony is revealed. ;)
The problem is 99% of publords don't know anything about goonswarm beyond recruitment scamming. They chat in their inane corp channels about them evil goonies ruining the game and being the root of all the problems when in reality beyond CSM 6/recent ice interdiction and recruitment scamming our interaction with the average highsec mouthbreather is minimal. |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1356
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 06:35:00 -
[85] - Quote
Axis Raikkonen wrote:I don't know what's worse in this situation:
1) That somebody's wife was actually dragged into this mess with a threat of physical violence, Or 2) Greater than zero people have responded to this incident with "lol mittans had it coming, see how it feels"
I have no doubt that the lunatic who made the threat was probably some bandwaggoning sperglord who felt empowered by a sense of semi-anonymity, but damn. It's the guy's wife, people. Mittens gave out the player's in-game name. Oh no, his spaceships might go boom. Now Mr. and Mrs. Gianturco get to live in fear of physical violence because people don't like an Internet spaceship character.
Protip: EVE isn't real.
Except you forgot to include in your reply the fact that Mr. Gianturco encouraged players on world wide video feed to find and harass a potentially suicidal player to help facilitate that said person to commit suicide. |

Grant Wyberious
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
18
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 06:35:00 -
[86] - Quote
JC Anderson wrote:And now, looking at where they are and where they started, is where the true irony is revealed. ;) I don't see the irony in this. |

Grant Wyberious
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
18
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 06:35:00 -
[87] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Axis Raikkonen wrote:I don't know what's worse in this situation:
1) That somebody's wife was actually dragged into this mess with a threat of physical violence, Or 2) Greater than zero people have responded to this incident with "lol mittans had it coming, see how it feels"
I have no doubt that the lunatic who made the threat was probably some bandwaggoning sperglord who felt empowered by a sense of semi-anonymity, but damn. It's the guy's wife, people. Mittens gave out the player's in-game name. Oh no, his spaceships might go boom. Now Mr. and Mrs. Gianturco get to live in fear of physical violence because people don't like an Internet spaceship character.
Protip: EVE isn't real. Except you forgot to include in your reply the fact that Mr. Gianturco encouraged players on world wide video feed to find and harass a potentially suicidal player to help facilitate that said person to commit suicide. And did he commit suicide? No. |

OfBalance
Caldari State
357
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 06:40:00 -
[88] - Quote
The problem here is that these neckbeards with an axe to grind took a look at the line Mittens crossed, got a running start, then made a flying leap across it. They bottled up all their ****-goons angst as they went and now they flail around making posts about Mittens and family as though it were just counter-smack in local.
The only thing that has come full-circle here is the dissociative personality disorder of the address poster and mr. ****. Clearly they've alltogether transcended what it means to talk trash and now equate stealing isk and blowing up mackinaws with actual felonies. |

Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
669
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 06:42:00 -
[89] - Quote
Sverige Pahis wrote: publords inane mouthbreathers
Given this is how you and other goonies view the common EVE player out of hand, just to be "edgy", is there any wonder why you are collectively considered to be the Pariahs of EVE.
Funny, considering goonies are mostly basement dwelling neckbeards.
/see what I did there?
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |

Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
125
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 06:43:00 -
[90] - Quote
This whole thing has to stop. We are now talking about real people who arn't even players. CCP needs to shut the forums down so people can cool off. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |

JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
223
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 06:44:00 -
[91] - Quote
Grant Wyberious wrote:JC Anderson wrote:And now, looking at where they are and where they started, is where the true irony is revealed. ;) I don't see the irony in this. Do you have an example where we threatened to ra pe someone's wife?
What are you talking about?
I meant the position that you guys are in as a whole in the game and the turning of the tables.
This whole thing with the threats of ****, and giving out somebodies real life address just before those threats is another matter entirely. I don't see how anybody could even hope to justify that. |

Grant Wyberious
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
18
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 06:44:00 -
[92] - Quote
Doc Fury wrote:Sverige Pahis wrote: publords inane mouthbreathers
Given this is how you and other goonies view the common EVE player out of hand, just to be "edgy", is there any wonder why you are collectively considered to be the Pariahs of EVE. Funny, considering goonies are mostly basement dwelling neckbeards. /see what I did there? I got a question pubbie. What's with the quoting my post regarding my advice to Mittani to acquire a weapon for self-defense? Are you anti-guns or something? There's nothing illegal about self-defense in the state that Mittani resides in especially when they have Castle Doctrine. |

Joshua Aivoras
Tech IV Industries The Methodical Alliance
199
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 06:48:00 -
[93] - Quote
Holy ****, this entire Fanfest debacle has gotten way, WAY out of hand  95% of the players are loving EVE, the other 5%? On the forums. |

Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
670
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 06:51:00 -
[94] - Quote
Grant Wyberious wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Sverige Pahis wrote: publords inane mouthbreathers
Given this is how you and other goonies view the common EVE player out of hand, just to be "edgy", is there any wonder why you are collectively considered to be the Pariahs of EVE. Funny, considering goonies are mostly basement dwelling neckbeards. /see what I did there? I got a question pubbie. What's with the quoting my post regarding my advice to Mittani to acquire a weapon for self-defense? Are you anti-guns or something? There's nothing illegal about self-defense in the state that Mittani resides in especially when they have Castle Doctrine.
Nope, I was literally QFT. Enter my home un-invited, or threaten what's mine or precious, and feel the wrath of me and my State's make-my-day Law.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1358
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 06:51:00 -
[95] - Quote
Grant Wyberious wrote: And did he commit suicide? No. No one knows who the guy is other than his character name. Unlike Mittani's real name and address.
Your reply lacks intelligence. Anybody's personal info can easily be found through all kinds of different ways, given enough time. As for The Mittani, CCP posted his and all other CSM candidates personal info so actually the blame rides on CCP. |

Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
43
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 06:51:00 -
[96] - Quote
Confirming CCP has the worst PR in the world and somebody is going to end up raped due to them. |

Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
126
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 06:51:00 -
[97] - Quote
Joshua Aivoras wrote:Holy ****, this entire Fanfest debacle has gotten way, WAY out of hand  Yeah very much so I'm up to the point of thinking CCP should shut the forums for a couple of weeks. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1358
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 06:53:00 -
[98] - Quote
Jack Tronic wrote:Confirming CCP has the worst PR in the world and somebody is going to end up raped due to them.
Or committing suicide.
|

Ai Shun
528
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 06:56:00 -
[99] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Except you forgot to include in your reply the fact that Mr. Gianturco encouraged players on world wide video feed to find and harass a potentially suicidal player to help facilitate that said person to commit suicide.
Two wrongs don't make a right. |

Grant Wyberious
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
19
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 07:02:00 -
[100] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Jack Tronic wrote:Confirming CCP has the worst PR in the world and somebody is going to end up raped due to them. Or committing suicide. He's not at risk anymore especially since it was back in November when he said it. He's already admitted it himself. Just because you keep repeating it ad nauseum doesn't make it true. |

DaiTengu
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
113
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 07:04:00 -
[101] - Quote
I'm not one to ~get mad at video games~ but this has done it.
Threatening violence, especially - in my opinion - the most heinous of violent acts upon an innocent third party is ******* disgusting.
And then I've seen people in a couple threads actually DEFENDING this. No goon defended what The Mittani said, we all admitted it was a dumb thing to do. Some people, however, are using it to say "Hey, maybe now he'll know what it's like!"
These people make me sick. Seriously. **** you.
|

supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group Ayn Sof Aur
60
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 07:05:00 -
[102] - Quote
So what happens all the time in the game via goons and the like is now an issue on a random "radio" show?
Because the CFC name shows respect, the name of fleets show respect.
The guy opened this all up to himself... he has been crying on twitter...
I mean meh... O well...
An eye for an eye worked well back in the day. I kinda like the idea... |

Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
671
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 07:06:00 -
[103] - Quote
DaiTengu wrote:I'm not one to ~get mad at video games~ but this has done it.
Threatening violence, especially - in my opinion - the most heinous of violent acts upon an innocent third party is ******* disgusting.
And then I've seen people in a couple threads actually DEFENDING this. No goon defended what The Mittani said, we all admitted it was a dumb thing to do. Some people, however, are using it to say "Hey, maybe now he'll know what it's like!"
These people make me sick. Seriously. **** you.
You must have missed the vitrol posts from goonies that were forum banned. EVE-search on Harlot and Tiwanistan's posts in the two original mittens apology/resign threads for examples. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |

equcin meey
camdy and Co. inc.
11
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 07:21:00 -
[104] - Quote
lets see what i got out of this whole thing was it's ok to **** some ones partner which would make me wonder if you would care if it happened to yours.
all i can say to some of you is your a hypocrite and now i hate you because now i like the goons because their behaviour is a hell of alot better than yours. support the Lego Rifter-á
http://lego.cuusoo.com/ideas/view/11619 |

qDoctor Strangelove
Beware of the Red Fox
2
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 07:30:00 -
[105] - Quote
**** Train Has No Brakes.
|

Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
61
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 07:56:00 -
[106] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Jack Tronic wrote:Confirming CCP has the worst PR in the world and somebody is going to end up raped due to them. Or committing suicide. Or both.
Riddle me this though Batman. Where the heck are CCP going to start drawing lines now?
I recently petitioned regarding a Character linking images of bestiality in a well known trading channel. CCP replied and I quote "We can take no action because it isn't a CCP public channel".
So by CCP's own "rules" how can implied threats in the EVE Radio channel be something that CCP can act upon?
The EVE Radio channel is not operated by CCP. By the written advice I have from CCP you could threaten to ****, murder, chop up and feed to dogs someone's wife and CCP would not give a ****.
Don't get me wrong, these cunts should be hung up by the thumbs, but CCP is getting fragile and inconsistent because of their addiction to sweet, sweet Sony cash.
Maybe new "grown up" rubber faced Sony Goons CCP brings a happier, shiner world - but they are have a red hot go at ******* it up. EVE shall be purged by fire - please Gods let them ALL burn in Jita. |

Sobach
Fourth Circle Total Comfort
9
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 08:07:00 -
[107] - Quote
Graic Gabtar wrote: I recently petitioned regarding a Character linking images of bestiality in a well known trading channel. CCP replied and I quote "We can take no action because it isn't a CCP public channel".
So by CCP's own "rules" how can implied threats in the EVE Radio channel be something that CCP can act upon?
The EVE Radio channel is not operated by CCP. By the written advice I have from CCP you could threaten to ****, murder, chop up and feed to dogs someone's wife and CCP would not give a ****.
Don't get me wrong, these cunts should be hung up by the thumbs, but CCP is getting fragile and inconsistent because of their addiction to sweet, sweet Sony cash.
Is the trade channel you're talking about in-game? I'm under the impression the eve radio channel in which the threat was made was in-game.
even so, I'd say linking offensive pictures is a far cry from a RL physical threat of violence, and can hardly be compared. I remember Ginger Magician was banned years ago from making a RL death threat against another player in game, and was promptly banned, so I see no inconsistency there.
|

Merovee
Gorthaur Legion Of Mordor
12
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 08:17:00 -
[108] - Quote
This is why you should NEVER use your real name on the net. Never **** off the herd
That said, I don't like Goons, I don't like goons because in EVE you must have enemies and I've picked Goons. I don't want to know who they are in real life, its a game, I understand to be hated in a MMOG like EVE is really fun, gives the play a little edge
Goons have to understand that their actions will bring their destruction in EVE, this will always happen, just ask BoB. This is fun, and the struggle to prevent this is what EVE is all about
So Chill, Mittens will be back in a month. The War will start. And we will all have fun playing or watching the conflict.
I give the Goons a year before they are chased out of Null-sec, if they decided not to take it personally, otherwise it could be Delve all over again.[;)
GBC For Life! |

DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
320
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 08:18:00 -
[109] - Quote
OP can't be a real goon. No hugs for you. Damn nature, you scary! |

Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
160
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 08:19:00 -
[110] - Quote
Disclaimer: I absolutely do not approve of threatening anyone in RL, not even "as a joke", and hope anyone who does anything like that gets permabanned immediately, I do not even approve of pointing and laughing at people in the game in order to make them bad in RL, and I do not approve of the recent Mittani-bashing threads that have popped up. Any behavior the sole purpose of which is to "harvest tears" (and those are always RL tears, no matter how much you say "it is just a game") is deplorable, regardless of target and how much they deserve it.
But that said, a Goon asking "Is this what Eve Online has degraded to?" is mind-boggling. You folks have tried for years to deliberately degrade EVE, to make it about pointing and laughing, and you have stepped across civil behavior lines repeatedly by e.g. circulating private evemail from people who appear RL hurt, even suicidal. How can you now be indignant that you have actually succeeded, and beyond what you hoped? Did you honestly think that if you encourage human beings to bring out the worst in themselves and go further and further in being tough assholes, you suddenly can stop the development when it suits you? Did you honestly think that when you feel that things are now assholish enough, people will telepathically notice and stop going further?
That's not how it works. If you encourage people to "ruin the game for you", "harvest tears", "make them ragequit", etc, it will become a competition in which someone will always go one step further. Maybe in your head there always was a limit to it. Maybe you believed that people knew what it was. But people are not like that. If you encourage them to be mean, they will be mean. And some day they might very well be meaner than you liked. "I never meant it to go this far" won't help then, if you never explicitly spoke of the limits or encouraged a culture where it was ok to admit that well, really, we are not such bad guys, I really did feel bad blowing up that ship.
As sad as it is, you lie in the bed you made. |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
116
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 08:19:00 -
[111] - Quote
Graic Gabtar wrote:So by CCP's own "rules" how can implied threats in the EVE Radio channel be something that CCP can act upon?
The EVE Radio channel is not operated by CCP. By the written advice I have from CCP you could threaten to ****, murder, chop up and feed to dogs someone's wife and CCP would not give a ****.
Don't get me wrong, these cunts should be hung up by the thumbs, but CCP is getting fragile and inconsistent because of their addiction to sweet, sweet Sony cash.
Maybe new "grown up" rubber faced Sony Goons CCP brings a happier, shiner world - but they are have a red hot go at ******* it up.
The EVE Radio channel is moderated by CCP, actually. Also, the fact that any given channel is "private" does not exclude it from the EULA/ToS. A player-run channel is player-moderated, but when it comes to RL threats being tossed around, CCP will step in.
So you're wrong - while a player-run channel is not within some of CCP's rules for public channels (i.e. language, links, etc.) there are boundaries - if you link stuff that is illegal, make RL death threats or distribute somebody's address, you will not be logged in much longer. "Nullsec alliances will now begin counting reporters on staff along with supercapitals and tech moons. Unironically." - The Mittani |

Grant Wyberious
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 08:20:00 -
[112] - Quote
Merovee wrote:This is why you should NEVER use your real name on the net. Never **** off the herd
That said, I don't like Goons, I don't like goons because in EVE you must have enemies and I've picked Goons. I don't want to know who they are in real life, its a game, I understand to be hated in a MMOG like EVE is really fun, gives the play a little edge
Goons have to understand that their actions will bring their destruction in EVE, this will always happen, just ask BoB. This is fun, and the struggle to prevent this is what EVE is all about
So Chill, Mittens will be back in a month. The War will start. And we will all have fun playing or watching the conflict.
I give the Goons a year before they are chased out of Null-sec, if they decided not to take it personally, otherwise it could be Delve all over again.[;)
GBC For Life! Deklein by February 2013? |

Grant Wyberious
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 08:21:00 -
[113] - Quote
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:Disclaimer: I absolutely do not approve of threatening anyone in RL, not even "as a joke", and hope anyone who does anything like that gets permabanned immediately, I do not even approve of pointing and laughing at people in the game in order to make them bad in RL, and I do not approve of the recent Mittani-bashing threads that have popped up. Any behavior the sole purpose of which is to "harvest tears" (and those are always RL tears, no matter how much you say "it is just a game") is deplorable, regardless of target and how much they deserve it.
But that said, a Goon asking "Is this what Eve Online has degraded to?" is mind-boggling. You folks have tried for years to deliberately degrade EVE, to make it about pointing and laughing, and you have stepped across civil behavior lines repeatedly by e.g. circulating private evemail from people who appear RL hurt, even suicidal. How can you now be indignant that you have actually succeeded, and beyond what you hoped? Did you honestly think that if you encourage human beings to bring out the worst in themselves and go further and further in being tough assholes, you suddenly can stop the development when it suits you? Did you honestly think that when you feel that things are now assholish enough, people will telepathically notice and stop going further?
That's not how it works. If you encourage people to "ruin the game for you", "harvest tears", "make them ragequit", etc, it will become a competition in which someone will always go one step further. Maybe in your head there always was a limit to it. Maybe you believed that people knew what it was. But people are not like that. If you encourage them to be mean, they will be mean. And some day they might very well be meaner than you liked. "I never meant it to go this far" won't help then, if you never explicitly spoke of the limits or encouraged a culture where it was ok to admit that well, really, we are not such bad guys, I really did feel bad blowing up that ship.
As sad as it is, you lie in the bed you made. So you're saying that the threat against external factors are the consequences of our actions and are justified?
Prior to Fanfest, people were threatening to punch Mittani, throw up on Mittani, etc. Why? Because they got butthurt over this game? An INTERNET SPACESHIP GAME. A GAME. |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
116
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 08:22:00 -
[114] - Quote
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:words
Are you serious?
"I don't approve of it BUT YOU DESERVE IT LOL"
"Nullsec alliances will now begin counting reporters on staff along with supercapitals and tech moons. Unironically." - The Mittani |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
67
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 08:23:00 -
[115] - Quote
Mittens has worked hard to get, and deserves all the ridicule and stick he gets ingame.
The key word is 'ingame'.
Any sort of threat to him in real life should be reported to the appropriate authorities. |

MoyO zOlotse
State War Academy Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 08:23:00 -
[116] - Quote
Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024
U MAD goonie tears are the best bra
Why lie and cause all of this drama?
Are you trying to deflect from your horrible act of egging on someone towards their suicide in RL?
All of you supported durpmittens actions.
You need to lighten up Francis.
You reap what you sow.
So you got busted being a real life troll.
MOAR imaimportantgoon TARES plz |

Grant Wyberious
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 08:25:00 -
[117] - Quote
MoyO zOlotse wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 U MAD goonie tears are the best bra Why lie and cause all of this drama? Are you trying to deflect from your horrible act of egging on someone towards their suicide in RL? All of you supported durpmittens actions. You need to lighten up Francis. You reap what you sow. So you got busted being a real life troll. MOAR imaimportantgoon TARES plz 1) No one committed suicide. The only suicide we know of is RoyOfCA. 2) The Mittani's wife does not play Eve Online but nonetheless she was dragged into this by one of you pubbies and threatened to be raped AFTER Mittani's address was posted. |

Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
487
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 08:26:00 -
[118] - Quote
Xander Riggs wrote:Love how quickly those delicate sensibilites shift when it happens to someone you don't like. All the white knights suddenly fade into the background when they have to put their money with their mouth is and crusade when its not convenient.
Thats because nothing is to be gained in game by pretending moral outrage at this. If defending the victim here would bring about what these people want in game, then you can be sure they would be screaming.
The vast majority of humans do not feel real compassion, what they do is appear compassionate so that they portray the image they want people to see and/or to get a specific result. Public displays of compassion are almost always manufactured, the people who feel real compassion usually act out of the public eye. This is why you get the 'white knight' effect, these people are simply out for whatever agenda they can further with their moral outrage and compassion.
Your morality only has one real measure, and that is how you act when you believe you are not being observed. Ever done something bad when you thought no one was looking? Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
626
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 08:30:00 -
[119] - Quote
Mr Kidd wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:yeah guys don't descend to Mittani's level That's his level? This is worse. Mittani owned up to the fact and apologized which the guy is still alive by my last count. While others are serious about carrying out their intentions especially to harm his wife. It's not two days later, yet, give it time, wait for the apology., maybe he was drunk......mm'kay.
|

Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
487
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 08:30:00 -
[120] - Quote
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote: As sad as it is, you lie in the bed you made.
Wow, just wow. After all that morale outrage, you believe that his WIFE (who doesnt even play the gaem) deserves this? Talk about double standards. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |

MoyO zOlotse
State War Academy Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 08:31:00 -
[121] - Quote
Grant Wyberious wrote:MoyO zOlotse wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 U MAD goonie tears are the best bra Why lie and cause all of this drama? Are you trying to deflect from your horrible act of egging on someone towards their suicide in RL? All of you supported durpmittens actions. You need to lighten up Francis. You reap what you sow. So you got busted being a real life troll. MOAR imaimportantgoon TARES plz 1) No one committed suicide. The only suicide we know of is RoyOfCA. 2) The Mittani's wife does not play Eve Online but nonetheless she was dragged into this by one of you pubbies and threatened to be raped AFTER Mittani's address was posted. There is no justification for threatening someone's wife at all whatsoever.
1. The fact that you get all giddy and excited over telling someone to off themselves in real life is all we need to know about you. 2. Anybody can be anything on the internet. So why lie all the time or only when its conveinent for you? 3. My po witle fweelings were hurt by the big bad internet o halp mi. 4. Nuff' Said. |

Grant Wyberious
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:32:00 -
[122] - Quote
MoyO zOlotse wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:MoyO zOlotse wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 U MAD goonie tears are the best bra Why lie and cause all of this drama? Are you trying to deflect from your horrible act of egging on someone towards their suicide in RL? All of you supported durpmittens actions. You need to lighten up Francis. You reap what you sow. So you got busted being a real life troll. MOAR imaimportantgoon TARES plz 1) No one committed suicide. The only suicide we know of is RoyOfCA. 2) The Mittani's wife does not play Eve Online but nonetheless she was dragged into this by one of you pubbies and threatened to be raped AFTER Mittani's address was posted. There is no justification for threatening someone's wife at all whatsoever. 1. The fact that you get all giddy and excited over telling someone to off themselves in real life is all we need to know about you. 2. Anybody can be anything on the internet. So why lie all the time or only when its conveinent for you? 3. My po witle fweelings were hurt by the big bad internet o halp mi. 4. Nuff' Said. You are worse than pubbie trash. |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
116
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:35:00 -
[123] - Quote
MoyO zOlotse wrote:1. The fact that you get all giddy and excited over telling someone to off themselves in real life is all we need to know about you. 2. Anybody can be anything on the internet. So why lie all the time or only when its conveinent for you? 3. My po witle fweelings were hurt by the big bad internet o halp mi. 4. Nuff' Said.
so you approve of dropping people's home addresses and making RL threats towards them and theirs? "Nullsec alliances will now begin counting reporters on staff along with supercapitals and tech moons. Unironically." - The Mittani |

Townsend Harris
The Milkmen Test Alliance Please Ignore
124
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:36:00 -
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Mass Attack wrote:
I'm obviously still working up to your grand master level of idiocy.
An address was posted. Did you drive by and see who lived there? Have you done any due diligence to confirm that it actually is his address? If it is his address.... who most readily has that address? Oh, that's right, HE most readily has that address.... who has the most to gain by something like this being said.. who exactly gains support by things going this far off the deep end... who is that again? Oh yeah, that's right, the guy who started all of this in the first place. So. Lets see, does it make more sense to me that the guy who has at no point ever doing anything to indicate he has any morals would set up a false event in order to discredit the justifiable anger against him for his behavior regarding making someone kill themselves... or the people who have a moral compass that points in such a direction as to actually be angry about it instead going nuts and saying OMGZ lets **** his wife.
yeah, a bunch of people who are angry about RL consequences are going to suddenly flip positions and want to do something like that. Get a grip. Quit being so easy to manipulate.
Did you confirm that the alleged suicidal player was in fact suicidal? Have you confirmed that the person who sent the mail is the same person still logging in NOW? I doubt it would be hard for people to figure out where Mittani lives given that A- They know his real name and B- The general Area where he lives. Its made simpler by the fact that he has an unusual last name. But still due diligence? Who here did due diligence before setting out on a crusade against the Mittani? Not a single one of you. No One. I mean if we want to go down this road, then sure lets speculate who had the most to gain by getting Mittani off the CSM? Maybe it would be the CSM member who's practically gloating that he's gone? Hmmmm |

Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
746
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:40:00 -
[125] - Quote
Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani
Take away the people who do not like him for his cyber bullying at fanfest and you will find the exact same people who hated him before hate him now. It is not like the player population got together at some secret meeting at some old abandoned donut factor to plot against him out of the blue.
Grant Wyberious wrote:anything is fair game against him?
As long as it stays within the Magic Circle, yes.
Grant Wyberious wrote:On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to rape Mittani's wife after his address was posted.
REPORT IT! That is the same line your leader crossed at fanfest. Whoever said that deserves a ban as well.
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Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
746
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:40:00 -
[126] - Quote
Grant Wyberious wrote:Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad!
**** yeah it is bad!
Grant Wyberious wrote:But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to rape his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay?
Of course it is not OK and please stop trying to gain sympathy for what mittens did earlier at fanfest, because someone threatened him today. It in no way dilutes what he did.
Grant Wyberious wrote:This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM.
It should have never been started. By anyone.
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
626
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:40:00 -
[127] - Quote
Townsend Harris wrote: I mean if we want to go down this road, then sure lets speculate who had the most to gain by getting Mittani off the CSM? Maybe it would be the CSM member who's practically gloating that he's gone? Hmmmm
Confirming Darius III slipped alcohol into the CSM's drinks so that Mittani would disgrace himself and to acquire sexually compromising photos of Michael Bolton's unconcious body for future blackmailing. |

Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
746
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:42:00 -
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I do love how everyone assumes he had to have been drunk for that panel and Q&A after...
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Grant Wyberious
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:42:00 -
[129] - Quote
Marlona Sky wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! **** yeah it is bad! Grant Wyberious wrote:But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to rape his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? Of course it is not OK and please stop trying to gain sympathy for what mittens earlier, because someone threatened him today. It in no way dilutes what he did at fanfest. Grant Wyberious wrote:This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. It should have never been started. By anyone. I'm sorry. He owned up to the fact and apologize, gave up his seat, got banned for 30 days. Then he gets a threat against his wife after the fact? You are worse than pubbie scum and I hope you never marry. |

Prince Kobol
464
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:43:00 -
[130] - Quote
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Confirming Darius III slipped alcohol into the CSM's drinks so that Mittani would disgrace himself and to acquire sexually compromising photos of Michael Bolton's unconcious body for future blackmailing.
I throw up a little when I read this.
Any image of Michael Bolton is bad but of him.. oh god I just threw up again  |

Ziranda Hakuli
Relativity Holding Corp AAA Citizens
14
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:44:00 -
[131] - Quote
Two wrongs make aright? Hell NO!
It just seems that EVERYONE or most folks have thrown their ETHICAL behavior out the window. yeah i am enjoying te GOON tears but there is a very fine line that has been crossed. folks feeding the goons...goons feedings everyone so there can be a huge DRAMA LAMA floating in space in Jita.
Granted Mit has brought alot on himself from his actions from the FANFEST but threatening sexual assault on another is just wrong so many laws broken over the thing he said to get himself temp banned and off the CSM and with the threat on his wife i would not be suprised if he leaves the game now. yeah i know many like the idea but hell he is fun to have around to poke at every now an then
Things are spinning way out of control all of folks are acting like junior school drama QUEENS. i thought there was a minimum age requirement but many of you are acting more like your shoe size then your age. Just get back to trying to enjoy the game and watch GOON implode on itself.
For any who keep in contact with Mittans pleaase pass on that there are some who do not wish ill harm come to him or his family. take the time to sit back and re examine things |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
116
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:44:00 -
[132] - Quote
Marlona Sky wrote:REPORT IT! That is the same line your leader crossed at fanfest. Whoever said that deserves a ban as well.
Not really, somebody decided to just "one-up" him, and then some. "Nullsec alliances will now begin counting reporters on staff along with supercapitals and tech moons. Unironically." - The Mittani |

Anela Cistine
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
166
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:46:00 -
[133] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Mittens has worked hard to get, and deserves all the ridicule and stick he gets ingame.
The key word is 'ingame'.
Any sort of threat to him in real life should be reported to the appropriate authorities.
At least keep the threats directed toward him, not non-eve playing women and/or dogs that happen to live with him. What, he's not good enough to ****? A baby-faced metrosexual like him could well be a better bet than his unknown, unseen wife. He's in his 30s, but if you shave off the stupid little beard and he could pass for 17. I hear he does yoga too, so he's probably pretty limber for a man his age. Supple.
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Vito Antonio
State War Academy Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:48:00 -
[134] - Quote
Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to rape Mittani's wife after his address was posted. That's because we LOVE her.
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MoyO zOlotse
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:49:00 -
[135] - Quote
Look at all these guunie haters, pubbie this pubbie that, pubbie with a whiffle ball batt.
News at O'eleven: Goon caught being Goon - crais moar about itz through sycophants.
Fails to garner the required sympathy.
Expect moar crais of pubbie boo to the hoo.
P.S. Why do you goons support someone offing themselves in real life?
Forget common decency, do you want a soul? |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
116
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:51:00 -
[136] - Quote
look at these hypocrites ^^ "Nullsec alliances will now begin counting reporters on staff along with supercapitals and tech moons. Unironically." - The Mittani |

killorbekilled TBE
Dare Bears
35
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:52:00 -
[137] - Quote
any one order a butt hurt goon extra crispy with extra tears on the side huh? |

Korah Arnelle
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:54:00 -
[138] - Quote
If it's true, it doesn't surprise me. Why? Because in all my years of being online I've seen idiotic statements made all over in every multi-user platform. Hell, I'll admit I've sent a death threat when I was a teenager to someone that really rubbed me the wrong way, but now that I'm adult I realize such things are unnecessary and generally a sign of some mental instability at worse or immaturity at best.
It just seems the lesson Mittani taught us all by his own screwup and apology hasn't sunk in the heads of others. I can't say why other than people's hatred for goons, which doesn't surprise me that emotion is overriding people's better natures. And honestly, I'm no fan of goons either, but when taking an accounting of one action of one man (Mittani) the group he represents can be disregarded since it does not reflect on the man's character or motivations (guilt by association has no place in a civil society). Simply put, acting more douchey than Mittani did won't make your actions right. In fact, it just makes you a joke in my book. |

Prince Kobol
465
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:57:00 -
[139] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:look at these hypocrites ^^
seriously go look at yourselves in a mirror
I did and noticed a grey hair in my beard, I cried a little  |

Arsedestroyer
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.03.31 10:09:00 -
[140] - Quote
Grant Wyberious wrote:someone's threatened to rape Mittani's wife after his address was posted.
Is she pretty?
Pic? |

Kara Roideater
Perkone Caldari State
129
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Posted - 2012.03.31 10:09:00 -
[141] - Quote
Townsend Harris wrote: But still due diligence? Who here did due diligence before setting out on a crusade against the Mittani? Not a single one of you. No One.
Your games of attempted equivalency are ingenious but really quite disgusting. The claim that no one should ever publicly point out genuine bad behaviour because some nut-case might make RL threats to the badly behaving individual is clearly bullshit and would preclude any newspaper ever publishing any article in which they report someone doing something wrong.
The idea that because pointing out such behaviour may mean that nut-cases read about it then implies that pointing out said behaviour is morally equivalent to actively encouraging horrible behaviour is really pretty feeble and doesn't stand a moment's scrutiny. Your terrible implicit argument is based on a failure to distinguish between reasons for making information public when it is precisely the reasons, and context, for making that information public that are at issue.
Of course, CCP did absolutely the right thing if they instantly banned the guy who made the threats but trying to shift moral responsibility for his actions onto anyone who criticised the Mittani is completely invalid. I would also indicate that, given the depths I have seen goons go to over the last week to justify their leader's behaviour I now have little doubt that they would happily stage such an incident, so I find that I have to suspend judgement about whether any real incident occurred. It would be easier to believe it had done if the Mittani had not announced his intent to make the gaming media who sullied his good name with slurs like 'cyber-bully' pay for their actions. Unfortunatelly, in the context of an explicit campaign to control the media this just looks like the kind of play that goons would make.
Quote:(7:03:21 PM) [email protected]/directorbot: RAGE: My people, Brendan Drain of Massively - who forced CCP's hand in banning me by lying and referring to me as a 'Cyber Bully' - has announced that he will 'apologize' for his senationalist gutter journalism. But I doubt that he will actually own his mistakes to the point of editing the offending lines in his past articles, a classic shlock journo move, the 'buried retraction'. Tonight, as we burn Tenal, I will be going on Eve Radio to discuss lynch mob that Brendan Drain has jinned up with his shameful desire to churn hits on his unpopular column. We will be mobilizing the entire Clusterfuck into a media campaign to fight back against this lazy, cut&paste 'gaming media'. While this may seem to be about me alone, it impacts every single one of us - in the eyes of these 'journalists' who do not play EVE, everything that takes place here - nonconsensual, consequential PVP - is 'bullying'. If we are to keep CCP from being forced by outside pressure to turn EVE into Hello Kitty Online, it is up to us to go on the offensive against the media themselves. *** This was a broadcast from the_mittani to all-all, replies are not monitored ***
How convenient that a lynch-mob should dramatically appear at just this moment. |

Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
495
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Posted - 2012.03.31 10:18:00 -
[142] - Quote
Actually, in the U.S., any time a newspaper prints a story about anyone who's commited a crime, they themselves have met the criteria for libel. To libel someone you print something that affects their standing in their community, and on their job. Say Joe Blow robbed a bank, guess what? Thing is, they have a defense...absent malice. So....
I would like to get serious here for once...and you thought I was serious all along...ye the easily bamboozled. When a group of people make it a point to regale themselves with a reputation of sordid, dishonest and virtual (digital) barbaric behavior, then they come out and expect to have some sort of even-handed fairness applied to them, it's more than just laughable.
On top of that, because scamming, lying, cheating and stealing are the admitted hallmarks of this particular group in question, I find it impossible to believe anything they say about anything. As far as I know this entire "scandal" is a put-up job by the Goons themselves as they suck wind trying to regain their bad boy reputations so recently stained by @$$hat behavior.
This may have actually happened, what the OP claims. But, that's too bad. We have to take his word for it. Videos and broadcasts can be staged, edited, photoshopped...we have to take a Goonfan's word for it. Guess what? Fogettaboutit. Ain't gonna happen. I wouldn't believe a Goon if he said my name is Serene Repose. I'd have to check the label in my shirt.
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |

moskowitz
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.03.31 10:19:00 -
[143] - Quote
Grant
if your point is..... because of all this Mittani is the victim. You are a sick fanboy. If someone made threats to Mittani's wife....the authorities should deal with it appropriately. To ensue that we all made Mittani a victim (and or condone ****) because he tried to crack a joke (that could have resulted in damage) is a a feeble attempt to make light of carelessness that should not be tolerated.
to use that example to plead your case is disgusting. |

Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
163
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Posted - 2012.03.31 10:22:00 -
[144] - Quote
Grant Wyberious wrote:Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:Disclaimer: I absolutely do not approve of threatening anyone in RL, not even "as a joke", and hope anyone who does anything like that gets permabanned immediately, I do not even approve of pointing and laughing at people in the game in order to make them bad in RL, and I do not approve of the recent Mittani-bashing threads that have popped up. Any behavior the sole purpose of which is to "harvest tears" (and those are always RL tears, no matter how much you say "it is just a game") is deplorable, regardless of target and how much they deserve it.
But that said, a Goon asking "Is this what Eve Online has degraded to?" is mind-boggling. You folks have tried for years to deliberately degrade EVE, to make it about pointing and laughing, and you have stepped across civil behavior lines repeatedly by e.g. circulating private evemail from people who appear RL hurt, even suicidal. How can you now be indignant that you have actually succeeded, and beyond what you hoped? Did you honestly think that if you encourage human beings to bring out the worst in themselves and go further and further in being tough assholes, you suddenly can stop the development when it suits you? Did you honestly think that when you feel that things are now assholish enough, people will telepathically notice and stop going further?
That's not how it works. If you encourage people to "ruin the game for you", "harvest tears", "make them ragequit", etc, it will become a competition in which someone will always go one step further. Maybe in your head there always was a limit to it. Maybe you believed that people knew what it was. But people are not like that. If you encourage them to be mean, they will be mean. And some day they might very well be meaner than you liked. "I never meant it to go this far" won't help then, if you never explicitly spoke of the limits or encouraged a culture where it was ok to admit that well, really, we are not such bad guys, I really did feel bad blowing up that ship.
As sad as it is, you lie in the bed you made. So you're saying that the threat against external factors are the consequences of our actions and are justified? No. Absolutely not. |
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
1134

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Posted - 2012.03.31 10:37:00 -
[145] - Quote
Ladies and Gentlemen - enough is enough.
If you think that you can target players in this community with real life threats or engage in any sort of hate campaign then I assure you that our actions will be swift and final.
The GM's on duty have taken action and did so very quickly. We would encourage players to submit a petition in cases like this so that we are aware of the situation as soon as possible.
This thread will also be locked with the primary reason that those trying to twist this situation for their own agenda is resulting in mass trolling and flaming. CCP Navigator -Community Manager |
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