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Sardau Kar
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Posted - 2004.06.24 08:48:00 -
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Im interested in getting an interceptor,and I am currently training for one(evasive to 5,and then¦=insert your interceptor race= frigate to 5,still a while  ).
Thing is Im not sure either get a taranis gunboat or a crow.Taranis never really brought my attention pre-missiles nef,but now Im really hesitating.I heard crow has lost many of its potential(altho I know It stills kick ass),and a taranis with blasters can really hurt...
My purpose with them is mainly PvP,running agent missions and random npc killing.
Anyone can give me a clue?
Thanks 
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MSDborris
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Posted - 2004.06.24 08:53:00 -
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im also kinda stuck in the same place...
right now i have 2 race frig on lvl 4 and that nav skill on lvl 3.
is getting into an inty worth it getting into a battle ship ? ( and which battle ship right now is selling for the most.. )
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.06.24 09:01:00 -
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I can only speak from a Crow pilots point of view but I love my little ship. Its fitted with all that I need to have fun in PvP and can get out of most scrapes with some ease.
I guess most inty's are the same or similar its just a case of deciding which you want and what weapons you feel will suit you best.
Crow = Missiles
Taranis = Turrets
Would like to face a taranis some time just so I know how good they are.(not an offer all in good time)
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Sardau Kar
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Posted - 2004.06.24 09:08:00 -
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Edited by: Sardau Kar on 24/06/2004 09:33:52
**Bumpy di bump**
Well I do own a battleship,my choice for frigates/interceptors is fully a matter of taste,as I like them more than the bigger ships.I respect those BS pilots out there,but I enjoy more being a scout and pester the other ships.Frigate warfare is really fun if you never tried it,do it,should last longer now that its not a insta kill from a couple cruise missiles(for good or for bad..).I use my BS to mine,but its usually forgotten in my hangar .
Dont think Im the only one who leaves the fat turds aside to fly smaller ships,which I enjoy more.
Well Im getting off-topic so,Taranis-Crow??
Decide by yourself! 
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( and which battle ship right now is selling for the most.. )
All tier 2 BS ara around the same price,the 90-100 mill range.It vastly varies depending the seller but shouldnt be more than that.
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Elrathias
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Posted - 2004.06.24 10:30:00 -
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well. since the crow lost its cruisemissiles thingy, the taranis is still mad though. the taranis is nowadays, i believe, the only interceptor wich can wtfpwn a cruiser.
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Shevar
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Posted - 2004.06.24 10:34:00 -
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Crow, if your willing to pay ~10 mil each time they go pop that is.
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Kleric
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Posted - 2004.06.24 11:25:00 -
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I'd say both, once you got evasive manuvering it's easy to train for another ceptor. Just 15-16 days or something :))
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2004.06.24 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Elrathias
taranis is nowadays, i believe, the only interceptor wich can wtfpwn a cruiser.
Belief, such a wonderful thing ..
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.06.24 11:29:00 -
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Claw, Taranis, and Ares, should all be better than a crow now.
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.06.24 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Claw, Taranis, and Ares, should all be better than a crow now.
Just out of curiosity, how so?
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OFFT
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Posted - 2004.06.24 11:57:00 -
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Have the Crow , love the Crow , also have Raptor, an Ares and a Malediction.
Waiting to fly the non-caldari at the mo ....
So Crow it is ....for now
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redfield
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Posted - 2004.06.24 13:29:00 -
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go for the ceptor that use most of your skills, like if you have 2 million skillpoints in gunnery maybe taranis would be better then a crow... use ya head
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Sardau Kar
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Posted - 2004.06.24 13:32:00 -
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Yes,Im 50/50 hestitating between crow/taranis,just one for now,as I dont wanna spend too much time training in a ship to just train another and another,my skills arent that uber to leave them behind .
But Im thinking of the crow.
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redfield
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Posted - 2004.06.24 13:35:00 -
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anyway taranis hits way harder... and it got the looks
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2004.06.24 13:46:00 -
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how hard would a crow hit with three named arbelest launchers and std missiles to lvl 5? imagine it would be pretty tough, yet to do the maths but i think a taranis would just edge it,
think im going to train for both tho as im caldari i think i should be patriotic and avoid galante ships.
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.06.24 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Steele
how hard would a crow hit with three named arbelest launchers and std missiles to lvl 5? imagine it would be pretty tough, yet to do the maths but i think a taranis would just edge it,
think im going to train for both tho as im caldari i think i should be patriotic and avoid galante ships.
I am close to training Standard lvl5.
At the moment I get 112.7(at work, think its that) per missile every 6 seconds. So use that to compare.
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TerminusX
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Posted - 2004.06.24 16:51:00 -
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Good question. One issue is cost.....Crow is uber expensive right now and hard to find. With the missiles nerf the Taranis has become a very interesting ship. One on one post patch, I can kill a crow most of the time. I haven't lost one yet to a crow. Frigate on frigate PvP is kinda like...orbit/web activate modules...so it's about who can do the most damage as quickly as possible, and I kill the crow before it can fire a second volley of missiles. Against a cruiser the Taranis rocks.....equip a cruiser AB and with your uber sig radius you can shread it. If it launches drones we'll, then move off and kill them one at a time, but the cruiser will probably escape. In fleet battles, the Taranis is good as well, though most frigates do not live very long no matter what they are. All in all I like the Taranis post patch, though the crow is still very good or even better at some tasks than it.
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piercer
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Posted - 2004.06.24 17:18:00 -
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Crow is IMHO the best, although i havnt got one i think they r the best, the missile nerf doesnt make much difference as the bonus for standard missile skill has changed (have a look).
they r expensive but worth it>
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Elrathias
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Posted - 2004.06.24 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Pychian Vanervi
Originally by: Jim Steele
how hard would a crow hit with three named arbelest launchers and std missiles to lvl 5? imagine it would be pretty tough, yet to do the maths but i think a taranis would just edge it,
think im going to train for both tho as im caldari i think i should be patriotic and avoid galante ships.
I am close to training Standard lvl5.
At the moment I get 112.7(at work, think its that) per missile every 6 seconds. So use that to compare.
okay, so basicly. thats
112,7 / 6 = ~18.783/second
and then we have the taranis.
Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I
Dmg 4.2x + Small hybrid 4 + surgical strike 4 + taranis bonus : 7.056x
ROF 3.5 sec + Gunnery 5 + Rapid firing 5 + taranis bonus: 1.89 sec
7.056/1.89 = 3,7333333333333
wich is about 3,73*12(small antimatter) = 44,78dmg per second.
the taranis has 3 turrets, wich makes this (44.78*3)dmg per second, how many launchers do you have?
yes i know, im very very partial. but since they took away cruisemissiles from the crow, the taranis is the "only" heavydamage interceptor.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.06.24 21:15:00 -
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Edited by: Gariuys on 24/06/2004 21:17:56
Originally by: Elrathias
Originally by: Pychian Vanervi
Originally by: Jim Steele
how hard would a crow hit with three named arbelest launchers and std missiles to lvl 5? imagine it would be pretty tough, yet to do the maths but i think a taranis would just edge it,
think im going to train for both tho as im caldari i think i should be patriotic and avoid galante ships.
I am close to training Standard lvl5.
At the moment I get 112.7(at work, think its that) per missile every 6 seconds. So use that to compare.
okay, so basicly. thats
112,7 / 6 = ~18.783/second
and then we have the taranis.
Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I
Dmg 4.2x + Small hybrid 4 + surgical strike 4 + taranis bonus : 7.056x
ROF 3.5 sec + Gunnery 5 + Rapid firing 5 + taranis bonus: 1.89 sec
7.056/1.89 = 3,7333333333333
wich is about 3,73*12(small antimatter) = 44,78dmg per second.
the taranis has 3 turrets, wich makes this (44.78*3)dmg per second, how many launchers do you have?
yes i know, im very very partial. but since they took away cruisemissiles from the crow, the taranis is the "only" heavydamage interceptor.
Couple of notes, base resists ( using the right missiles against frigates which don't harden shouldn't be too hard ) the little thing about neutrons having really nasty grid requirements and the whole 500m! optimal vs ( whatever the max locking range of a crow is ) thing.
Personally I like the minmatar interceptors, bit of both the gallente and caldari frigates, only drawback they got ( and it is rather mayor actually ) is a stupidly short locking range, think I got 19km or something like that without modules.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.06.24 23:44:00 -
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Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 24/06/2004 23:46:15
Originally by: Pychian Vanervi
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Claw, Taranis, and Ares, should all be better than a crow now.
Just out of curiosity, how so?
The taranis deals much more damage. The ares and the claw both deal decent damage and have good armor tanking capabilities. And missle damage received can be signifigantly reduced by having a smartbomb.
I haven't flown a crow yet, but I knew some decent crow pilots pre-missle nerf that fell very easily to my claw after the missle nerf, and my claw falls very quickly to a ares or a taranis. Blasters just deal too much damage, at all levels, especially with damage bonuses inherent with gallente ships. A claw with blasters might even be better than a claw with autocannons, but its still not going to be as good as a taranis with blasters.
Frigate vs Frigate combat has started to bore me anyway, the only frigate I like to fly these days is a stiletto, and that is just becuase I can have a MWD, 2 warp scramblers and a web, which stops any battleship in his tracks long enough for any battleships with me to kill him. Stiletto owns as a tackling ship which is really all frigates are good for until they fix drones and cruise missles.
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Sardau Kar
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Posted - 2004.06.25 03:31:00 -
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**Bump**
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Grinchess
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Posted - 2004.06.25 06:41:00 -
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Screw em both, get a Stiletto
Best interceptor in the game, both for combat and fleet battles
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number 258
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Posted - 2004.06.25 06:56:00 -
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go for a taranis, i think the dmg is a lot better over time.
long live the Taranis!!!
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Nybbas
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Posted - 2004.06.25 09:07:00 -
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well with level 5 small hybrid, rapid firing, and level 4 surgical, along with other skills and 2 tech 2 damage mods on my taranis, (if anyone else has some other lowslot suggestion for me say it) i get around 170 dps. (3 modal light ions) and everything fits perfectly... needless to say anything that gets in my optimal dies, unless its a cruiser. And about cap. problems, well anything i fight is ganna die before my guns run out of cap, otherwise im not ganna fight it, and about the only thing strong enough to do that is a battleship.
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Tra wo
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Posted - 2004.06.26 03:12:00 -
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Ok i could fly a crow for aawhile now and it totaly pwnED but now i hate to say that i am training for a taranis, it is a lot stronger then the crow is with the proper skills and equipment so i say train gallente firgate to 5 and go for the taranis ;)
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Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2004.06.26 03:42:00 -
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It really depends on how you like to fight, and the tactics you'll use. Lots of people point to the Taranis's tremendous damage-inflicting abilities, but you do have to get awfully close to your target before you start inflicting this damage. The Crow on the other hand can do it's (smaller) damage from further away. Right now the Crow has a big limitation in that light missiles don't travel at the speed that they were supposed to, so the Crow pilot has to get within 10km of a fast frigate to web it before they start getting missile hits.
Personally I haven't flown a Crow since the patch (both because of the loss of cruise missile ability, and the recent inflation in the price of Crows). Currently I favor the Ares (with the Taranis coming in a close second), but I've trained the ability to fly all races interceptors, so I can just switch to whatever interceptor is better after the next (inevitable) "balancing changes". If you're a frigate pilot, I really think this is the smart way to go. It really doesn't take that long to train frigate 5, and you'll be set when the next set of elite frigates come out, too.
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Feaux Tomai
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Posted - 2004.06.26 03:43:00 -
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Taranis.
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Jane Vladmir
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Posted - 2004.06.26 04:10:00 -
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if you want to get the girls go for the malediction, it's the coolest and best looking ship in the game by far
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Bigby
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Posted - 2004.06.26 08:16:00 -
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My taranis can quite happily handle two guardian troopers at once, mostly by orbiting at ridiculous speeds and having a little patience :)
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