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Polkageist
Minmatar
No Limit Productions
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.12 08:19:00 -
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Who were behind 9/11? 19 arab guys and a man in a cave??? I never asked any questions... Have you? Its hot coffee.
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Sionn Klorgh
Minmatar
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.10.12 08:20:00 -
[2]
Moron.
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Polkageist
Minmatar
No Limit Productions
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.12 08:23:00 -
[3]
adult answer.
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Polkageist
Minmatar
No Limit Productions
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.12 08:25:00 -
[4]
try google "9/11 truth" that can give you a clue...
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Polkageist
Minmatar
No Limit Productions
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.12 08:27:00 -
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or ask former defense minister of germany Andres Von Bnlow... or listen to the debate in japan's paliament or on russian TV... There might be something going on.
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XEN0CIDE
Interstellar Xenocide
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Posted - 2008.10.12 09:03:00 -
[6]
Im going to write down seven things Alex Jones has stated on his radio show & if hes correct over the next few years I will believe him otherwise I think he a mad git but maybe thats because he believes what he says so much.
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Polkageist
Minmatar
No Limit Productions
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.12 09:34:00 -
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just remember, Alex Jones is just one man... This is global. But i finally found out there is some damm cool Texan people. Also chuck norris woohoo he was on infowars. Gotta love that.
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Zackalwe
Gallente
Jealhimet Elite Army
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Posted - 2008.10.12 09:39:00 -
[8]
Edited by: Zackalwe on 12/10/2008 09:40:37
Wow, there are people who think the illuminati was behind 9/11?
Conspiracy nutjob theories have no limits I guess.
oh and IBL
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TurboNutz
Minmatar
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2008.10.12 09:40:00 -
[9]
ARE WE DOING THE NINE ELEVEN THING AGAIN?
IBTL
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slothe
Caldari
Murky Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.12 09:47:00 -
[10]
well arabs "did it"
but it was in response to americas foreign policy
and americas foreign policy was based on their global quest to suck resources out of all other countries.
so although the arabs may have "done it", whos to blame?
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Necronomicon
Caldari
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.12 09:48:00 -
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You are a nobber, that is all.
KIA - Don't ask me, I was off grid.
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slothe
Caldari
Murky Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.12 09:52:00 -
[12]
 Originally by: Necronomicon
You are a nobber, that is all.
this made me laugh 
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Zandramus
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.10.12 10:14:00 -
[13]
*waits for 'all was plan at bbq of so-so' comment
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El Kaposo
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2008.10.12 10:14:00 -
[14]
IBTL
doesn't belong here tbh, but do a bit of digging and you got a can of worms.
no nutcases, it has long gone mainstream and into academic circles. why you haven't heard of it? because the few corporations that own the main media don't want you too. simple.
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Polkageist
Minmatar
No Limit Productions
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.12 10:16:00 -
[15]
Originally by: Zackalwe
Edited by: Zackalwe on 12/10/2008 09:40:37
Wow, there are people who think the illuminati was behind 9/11?
Conspiracy nutjob theories have no limits I guess.
oh and IBL
good sheep. good design. what country are you from? just curious to tell who you puppet masters is
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Xori Ruscuv
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.10.12 10:20:00 -
[16]
Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 12/10/2008 10:25:37
Originally by: slothe
well arabs "did it"
but it was in response to americas foreign policy
and americas foreign policy was based on their global quest to suck resources out of all other countries.
so although the arabs may have "done it", whos to blame?
First of all, "arabs" didn't. Al'Queda did.
To put a few things in perspective:
Read about the history of the middle east and what happened there during the height of the British empire. (There's a reason that Al'Queda and such hate westerners in general - not only America. I suppose that many are too ignorant to remember the other terrorist attacks that have been traced to Al'Queda that happened outside the United States.)
Then go look up charts of crude oil imports (to the US) from countries like Canada, Mexico, Venezuela and compare them to imports from Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc.
Then look into Al Queda's rationalizations behind what did (and what they've been doing for a long time... this started loooong before 9/11). For instance what their sect of Islam says about the world and what they are required to do... the creation of the Israeli state... etc.
*sigh*
I thought they gave history lessons in school.
Yeah, the nutjob conspiracy theories have no limit, nor does the ignorance in "Americans brought it on themselves". Not that Americans haven't ever made a mess of things. lol.
But in reality there's perfectly tracable explanations of the conflicts we're dealing with right now, and these stories extend as far back as the fall of the Ottoman empire.
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Sasha Lyre
Gallente
Blood Music
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Posted - 2008.10.12 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: slothe
well arabs "did it"
but it was in response to americas foreign policy
and americas foreign policy was based on their global quest to suck resources out of all other countries.
so although the arabs may have "done it", whos to blame?
If you dont like a countrys foreign policy.
Then you're saying, it's reasonable to randomly kill several thousand innocent people.
So, using that logic, would it not be reasonable for the US to randomly pick one of the main countries that spawned these evil monsters and stick a nuclear tipped missile into a random major city ?
Or better yet, how about sending in covert teams to hunt down every family member, every friend, children, everyone remotely associated with any of the terrorists involved, kill them all and see how the terrorists / planners, who are still alive, like that?
Theres no escuse for indiscriminate violence, be it some drunk idiot punching a random stranger in the street, or an act of terrorism like this.
These people are obviously not worried about their own lives, either through fanaticism, brainwashing or just because life is 'cheap' in some parts of the world, but I wonder if they would be so keen to do it, if they knew there would be repercussions, maybe really nasty ones, if it was down to me, I would take revenge on someone for any act of terrorism.
Yes, revenge, these people only understand one kind of language.
Your Blood Goes to my Head and the Music Flows through my Veins |
Zandramus
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.10.12 10:33:00 -
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why did you jsut take this thread THAT seriously :/
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Polkageist
Minmatar
No Limit Productions
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.12 10:33:00 -
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try search for yourself...
check the stuff thats out there dont just say what other people tell you (liek fox). Stand brave and strong. Dont let people master you.
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Twoside
Gallente
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.12 10:34:00 -
[20]
planet 9 moon 11, nobody there :( |
Xori Ruscuv
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.10.12 10:35:00 -
[21]
Originally by: Twoside
planet 9 moon 11, nobody there :(
/win
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El Kaposo
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2008.10.12 10:36:00 -
[22]
there is a promethium moon in venal at 911 somewhere.. wont say where though :P
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Xori Ruscuv
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.10.12 10:38:00 -
[23]
Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 12/10/2008 10:38:32
Originally by: El Kaposo
there is a promethium moon in venal at 911 somewhere.. wont say where though :P
*brings fleet if unescorted freighters full of POS components and fuel!*
PS. HOLY CRAP IM POSTING WITH AN UNIDENTIFIED ALT IN CAOD! I didn't even realize. This is why drunk forum whoring is baaaaad.
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Polkageist
Minmatar
No Limit Productions
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.12 10:40:00 -
[24]
Yeah say SEnator Karen Johnson is just a nutcase. Say They're all just nutcases. In the japanese parlament. Former intelligense officials, physicists, engineers, architects, congressmen and woman.... members of parlament in europe. Just say they're nuts.
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Xori Ruscuv
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.10.12 10:44:00 -
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You know what's nuts? The price I can get you on a new desktop computer!
Seriously, guys, lets cut out the RL shit in our little interwebs spaceship game? 
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XEN0CIDE
Interstellar Xenocide
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Posted - 2008.10.12 10:49:00 -
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tbh all this new world order stuff if it does happen & wont last long. The American Army is having trouble in Iraq. Whats it going to do against 30 Million Americans who are educated & have the right to bare arms. If it does happen I lot of people will die.
But for those who dont think it will happen & I am a bit unsure of it all myself I will explain what people like Alex Jones is saying.
1: Dow Jones will go down to 1000 in the next 2 years.
2: Welfare Provisions wont cover Basic Supplies
3: Under the pretext of providing safetly because of Food Riots because Welfare doesnt cover the basic needs of people the US Government will declare Martial Law (Not Troops on the Streets)
Thats how its meant to work or thats what Alex Jones said in the show I heard on the net. Only time will tell to be honest.
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Xori Ruscuv
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.10.12 10:52:00 -
[27]
Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 12/10/2008 10:55:44
Depressions happen. There's nothing terribly dramatic about it mechanically. (It IS terrible and dramatic at the personal level, no denying it of course.)
Take a brief look at how the Great Depression happened. Startling similarities with what is going on now. However, the action being taken this time is being taken with the Great Depression in mind.
And from what I've read in the news, the US Army (let's not disregard the efforts of the allies, mind) is having less trouble in Iraq right now than ever. The Iraqi government is pulling windfall profits from oil exports with stability returned to oil fields and ports... while British, Canadian, American, etc. citizens foot the bill for the reconstruction. 
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Sinsemillia
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Posted - 2008.10.12 10:54:00 -
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Everyone knows that sandmonkeys cant aim worth a damn, flying a 400mph plane into a building, yea right 
Whoever controls the media, controls the people, thankfully we have the internet
No other buildings built in the same era using the same construction methods has ever collapsed due to fire. Some have burnt for over 18 hours and still not fallen down.
Building 7? Lmao
Plane crashes into the pentagon leaving no plane wreckage, just a circular hole with no wing impact marks?
Anyone who believes this crap should watch some of the many documentarys on the net. The best one i've seen is "loose change", search for it on google, its a free download.
Guess it comes down to stupidity, anyone dumb enough to put Bush in power in the first place is dumb enough to believe this stuff. War on terror my ass, war to secure oil more like, or in iraq's case, war to stop Iraq promoting the sale of oil ditching the dollar and moving to a different currency.
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XEN0CIDE
Interstellar Xenocide
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Posted - 2008.10.12 10:56:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Xori Ruscuv
Depressions happen. There's nothing terribly dramatic about it mechanically. (It IS terrible and dramatic at the personal level, no denying it of course.)
Take a brief look at how the Great Depression happened. Startling similarities. However, the action being taken this time is being taken with the Great Depression in mind.
The problem is Fiscal money. There is no backing to it so you can just print money. All money should be Gold Standard so if you have a 10 Pound Note you have that value in Gold. The Federal Reserve is a private organsation that prints money like no tomorrow. Now there talking about bailing out the bail out lol.
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Lorgoth
Children of Gjallarhorn
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Posted - 2008.10.12 11:01:00 -
[30]
if someone, after 7 years, still thinks it was Al'quaid'a who did it...
then he has no clue what's going on in the world, specialy USA.
i bet even 911 commision doesnt believe any longer in their own report.
and as long as stupid americans will have beer, bubbs and pizza they wont care
who is foucking them in the arse.
well, 'ignorance is a bless'... some gent said once.
Go America! Go!
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D4mnation
Caldari
BecauseImWorthIt
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Posted - 2008.10.12 11:02:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Xori Ruscuv
Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 12/10/2008 10:34:39
Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 12/10/2008 10:32:40
Originally by: slothe
well arabs "did it"
but it was in response to americas foreign policy
and americas foreign policy was based on their global quest to suck resources out of all other countries.
so although the arabs may have "done it", whos to blame?
First of all, "arabs" didn't. Al'Queda did.
To put a few things in perspective:
Read about the history of the middle east and what happened there during the height of the British empire. (There's a reason that Al'Queda and such hate westerners in general - not only America. I suppose that many are too ignorant to remember the other terrorist attacks that have been traced to Al'Queda that happened outside the United States.)
Then look into Al Queda's rationalizations behind what did (and what they've been doing for a long time... this started loooong before 9/11). For instance what their sect of Islam says about the world and what they see as their duty to do something about it... Read a bit about the creation of the Israeli state and the tensions that has caused, and the perpetual cycle of conflict and attempted truce that has been going on for decades now.
Oh, and the resources thing: go look up charts of crude oil imports (to the US) from countries like Canada, Mexico, Venezuela and compare them to imports from Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc. Take a look at the history of OPEC and their impact on the world's present supply and price of crude. (As a side note, you'll discover along the way several other "O*EC" cartels, it may surprise you!) Then take a look at what some earlier empires such as the British empire did in order to secure its energy needs. It makes the American "empire" look like lightweights, wowie.
*sigh*
I thought they gave history lessons in school.
Yeah, the nutjob conspiracy theories have no limit, nor does the ignorance in the "Americans brought it on themselves" line of thought. Not that Americans haven't ever made a mess of things. lol. But in reality, the American "empire" is in many ways not nearly as decadent, exploitative, or even remotely as war-mongering as empires that have come before - including the British Empire, or many other empires clear back to and including the Roman empire, and beyond.
But in reality there's perfectly traceable explanations of the conflicts we're dealing with right now, and these stories extend as far back as the fall of the Ottoman empire.
Oh, and the "adult answer":
IBTL!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Pardon some typos, I've had some beers and my right hand is wrapped (wrist injury), difficult to type!
I wasnt going to post, but what about the innocent people in those countries like iraq who have had their houses bombed.
Blood of the west is the only blood that counts apparently.
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Iron Jaw
The Forsakened Companions
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.10.12 11:03:00 -
[32]
This Post doesnt belong here, can it get moved please.
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Xori Ruscuv
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.10.12 11:06:00 -
[33]
Originally by: ****ation
I wasnt going to post, but what about the innocent people in those countries like iraq who have had their houses bombed.
Blood of the west is the only blood that counts apparently.
Never said that this war is a righteous one. Nothing in my above statements implied it either.
In fact I oppose this war openly, and have from the onset.
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Dihania
Gallente
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.10.12 11:07:00 -
[34]
I suggest that OP be podded repeatedly for posting such non sense. I searched and searched and searched and there is no such thing in our known universe.
Maybe you are talking about some bull shit that happened in the old world from where our ancestors came...
OOC: stfu and don't post this crap in here. we are here to have fun, fly space ships, not discuss this crap. I hope they will temp ban you, not just move the thread to OOC.
[hrhr]
Sniggwaffe is recruiting. Visit channel "join sniggwaffe" in game.
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Xori Ruscuv
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.10.12 11:08:00 -
[35]
Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 12/10/2008 11:10:01
Originally by: Dihania
we are here to have fun, fly space ships, not discuss this crap.
This.
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Lorgoth
Children of Gjallarhorn
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Posted - 2008.10.12 11:10:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Dihania
I suggest that OP be podded repeatedly for posting such non sense. I searched and searched and searched and there is no such thing in our known universe.
Maybe you are talking about some bull shit that happened in the old world from where our ancestors came...
OOC: stfu and don't post this crap in here. we are here to have fun, fly space ships, not discuss this crap. I hope they will temp ban you, not just move the thread to OOC.
...ingorance is a bless.
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Lasakywa
Section XIII
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.10.12 11:11:00 -
[37]
CAOD Should NOT BE ABOUT SERIOUS BUSINESS ! It should be about EVE ALLIANCES & SMACK & LAG...Oh wait...
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.10.12 11:20:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Lorgoth
Originally by: Dihania
I suggest that OP be podded repeatedly for posting such non sense. I searched and searched and searched and there is no such thing in our known universe.
Maybe you are talking about some bull shit that happened in the old world from where our ancestors came...
OOC: stfu and don't post this crap in here. we are here to have fun, fly space ships, not discuss this crap. I hope they will temp ban you, not just move the thread to OOC.
...ingorance is a bless.
It is, now gtfo of coad.
- Gob
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Lorgoth
Children of Gjallarhorn
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Posted - 2008.10.12 11:22:00 -
[39]
Edited by: Lorgoth on 12/10/2008 11:22:16
nee, there is always a place for truth in every thread.
dont be p1ssed it's gauging your eyeballs realy hard.
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Sionn Klorgh
Minmatar
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.10.12 11:31:00 -
[40]
Quote:
if someone, after 7 years, still thinks it was Al'quaid'a who did it... then he has no clue what's going on in the world, specialy USA. i bet even 911 commision doesnt believe any longer in their own report. and as long as stupid americans will have beer, bubbs and pizza they wont care who is foucking them in the arse. well, 'ignorance is a bless'... some gent said once. Go America! Go!
This is a fair representation of the intellectual grasp of your typical conspiracy loon. It is also a part of the reason why a nation is divided and partly blaming itself for the evil deeds it didn't deserve.
I'm not a yank but I respect them very much. My native country is free thanks to them and in spite of the fashionable US bashing, no country on earth has protected human freedoms more.
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Xori Ruscuv
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.10.12 11:40:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Sionn Klorgh
This is a fair representation of the intellectual grasp of your typical conspiracy loon. It is also a part of the reason why a nation is divided and partly blaming itself for the evil deeds it didn't deserve.
I'm not a yank but I respect them very much. My native country is free thanks to them and in spite of the fashionable US bashing, no country on earth has protected human freedoms more.
o7
Just recognize that we're not perfect so your country doesn't make the same mistakes we've made.
Unfortunately we can't seem to sc**** enough delicate genius together every 2 and 4 years to fix the problems we've got, let alone stop messing around with others :s
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Polkageist
Minmatar
No Limit Productions
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.12 11:41:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Sionn Klorgh
Quote:
if someone, after 7 years, still thinks it was Al'quaid'a who did it... then he has no clue what's going on in the world, specialy USA. i bet even 911 commision doesnt believe any longer in their own report. and as long as stupid americans will have beer, bubbs and pizza they wont care who is foucking them in the arse. well, 'ignorance is a bless'... some gent said once. Go America! Go!
This is a fair representation of the intellectual grasp of your typical conspiracy loon. It is also a part of the reason why a nation is divided and partly blaming itself for the evil deeds it didn't deserve.
I'm not a yank but I respect them very much. My native country is free thanks to them and in spite of the fashionable US bashing, no country on earth has protected human freedoms more.
This has not anything to US bashing. I love americans... Its the people in control thats the problem. and that is not the people.
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Xori Ruscuv
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.10.12 11:42:00 -
[43]
Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 12/10/2008 11:44:42
Originally by: Polkageist
Its the people in control thats the problem. and that is not the people.
The truth, and terribly unfortunate. I have known a single politician since I become "politically aware" that stood anywhere near my beliefs, and this year's election is no different. Representation? Pfft.
Though honestly I don't think I could say any differently for any other nation on this planet.
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Raving Gerbil
Minmatar
Shadow Monkeys
Shadow Donkeys
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Posted - 2008.10.12 12:08:00 -
[44]
oh my god. just die plz
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.10.12 12:40:00 -
[45]
whats the big deal about the 9th november anyways?
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steveid
Killed In Action
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Posted - 2008.10.12 12:45:00 -
[46]
This post is fail, your fail and your alliance REALLY fails. End yourself tbh.
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FellRaven
Minmatar
GREY COUNCIL
Pure.
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Posted - 2008.10.12 14:00:00 -
[47]
Could a Moderator move this to the paranoid delusional sections of the forum.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2008.10.12 14:17:00 -
[48]
It was all planned at the BBQ in 1973.
And that is the truth!
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Mistress Spanksalot
Minmatar
Pegasus Lancers
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Posted - 2008.10.12 14:32:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Mistress Spanksalot on 12/10/2008 14:33:27
I'm amazed at how slow forum mods are today, as this is a political thingie and totally non Eve related in CAOD, hmm.
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Bibi
Basic Tritanium Mining North
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Posted - 2008.10.12 16:16:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Bibi on 12/10/2008 16:25:06
These questions should not be dealt with in a light way. Maybe not on the eve-forum thats what I think in anyway.
First its not about the american's as dumb people because they are not dumb. They follow there leaders as moste of the other people around the world do. ITS a HUMAN thing... The moste clear example of this in the west is maybe ****** and the German people he came to power and it was no giant civil war to remove him and his people from power its so many examples of people following there leaders in the history of man so its definitely not a only stupid american thing. It would be alot easier if that was the case ofc but its not.
Then 9/11 happen and iraq was harboring terrorists and weapons of mass destruction etc moste people know the story its its a fact that no weapon of mass destruction was found in iraq they knew it before the invation the UN had the proof even but they got overruned. Then we have the harboring of terrorists well what can we say about that really as america invaded iraq in the 1990's maybe just funny coincident that it was father bush that time or not... however alot of iraqis lost family in that war aswell ofc so that alot of them did not like americans for that reason its not strange but they did nothing against america until america came in to Iraq the second time...and america and we all call them terrorists when they fight the invaders with bombs etc its really the same as IRA and british before (ONE MAN'S TERRORIST, ANOTHER'S FREEDOM FIGHTER)so this had nothing to do with international terrorism from the start maybe now they do as the people fighting the usa in iraq need funds to fight the worlds most powerful army and obviously there not going to give up and just accept to be over runned.
What america did in the first gulf war was to take advantages of the situation and when iraq and its leader invaded kuwait bush and USA moved in to stop ethnic cleansing...But it was really a matter of first to the oil gets the best deal then if someone is smart they can justify a invasion and still keep a good realtion with the public.
If america did this just because of the so called ethnic cleansing and removing evil from the world they would have gone to other places before like africa to stop the huge ethnic cleansing there but its one thing different, its not as much concentrated and huge amount of oil there so its about profit in the end and the bonus you get is (it looks like you saved kuwait and its people from iraq and its leader and in a way they did so its a very smart move! so to say that the USA is the nr1 freedom fighter of the world is wrong as there not acting that way, they move when its profit to be made out of it.
However any country with power would do this as we can look back in the history and see this time after time there not worse than other large powers now or before there probably one of the better honestly.
Russia and China for example I think we can all agree that no one of us that live in the west would like to move to russia or china not because of its people but for the hard rules in those places however if this was the case we would see more people emigrating to these powers now its the other way as we all know.
Iraq they failed with there invasion of kuwait they just moved in to kuwait and it did not work of course the whole world turned against them. (move only when you can get the opposition with you thats smart)old-bush he got a hiphip hurray from the people of the world that love to see a dictator regime fall
SO NO al qaida terrorists in iraq at the time of the second invasion of Iraq and NO weapons
of massdestruction neither.
Those were the 2 reason given to the world by the US and the briths before the second invasion war of iraq and it was a lie they got alot of shit for it but its still a lie! hundreds of thousands people dead. Could 9/11 be lie? of course it could be but its a scary thought so we just don't care about it simply
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Richard Branagen
Caldari
Richard Branagen Corp
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Posted - 2008.10.12 16:23:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Polkageist
Who were behind 9/11? 19 arab guys and a man in a cave??? I never asked any questions... Have you? Its hot coffee.
not another one of these.... they let you clowns breed or something?
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Apolluon
Gallente
Aetas Inculta
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Posted - 2008.10.12 16:34:00 -
[52]
Many people here have chosen to inform themselves of what they wish to know, using sources that directly serve that informational need.
The internet is good for that.
When you want real knowledge; stop looking at just what you want to see/hear about.
And get the **** off CAOD with this stupidity.
Apolluon
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