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Fausto Rojas
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Posted - 2008.10.13 03:10:00 -
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Edited by: Fausto Rojas on 13/10/2008 03:12:26 Edited by: Fausto Rojas on 13/10/2008 03:12:11 Greetings Pilots.
I would like all of you to know that barely an hour ago, Megan Maynard has betrayed the 17th Minmatar Tactical Wing, and most important the Minmatar Republic, stealing all of the corporation's assets, ISK, and the reimbursement fund and loot that benefitted all of the militia. Even took the t1 frigs. This is a hard blow for the 17th, which was barely in its infancy. The incident however, has only made our resolution stronger. Well be up and running soon enough, perhaps under a new name, but always under the Minmatar banner.
Neu Bastian Former CEO
((damn Fausto, that was suposed to be posted by Neu Bastian))
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MirrorGod
Heretic Militia
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Posted - 2008.10.13 03:18:00 -
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I have no doubt that the pilots of 17th can persevere in adversity that, in the scope of things, is really trivial. Best of luck as you rebuild stronger and this much wiser.
Save Small Gang Warfare |
Eran Mintor
17th Minmatar Tactical Wing
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Posted - 2008.10.13 03:41:00 -
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*Eran Mintor's face appears on the video screen. He's sitting at his desk, basked in darkness. Only the light from the video monitor infront of him illuminates the features of his face. A sparkle can be seen on his cheek, what looks to be perhaps a tear, but is unclear. His face is rigid, and his jaw is clenched.*
What happened today was the act of a corrupt individual who put themselves before her tribesmen and her nation. Her selfishness is a lesson for all to learn from. She is not alone in her betrayal to her people, but I digress.
The last 72 hours has been a very stressful and difficult time for members of the militia. Megan Maynard is the metaphorical "icing on the cake".
We are back to having nothing; nothing but the blood in our veins and the will that drives us on. We have decided to stay in the fight, no matter what circumstances and obstacles block our path; we have bigger obligations than ourselves. Many may look at us and see petty and broke warriors, but I see dangerous men who have only intensified their resolve, anger, and determination to win this war against those who would seek to enslave us and further destroy what we have built for ourselves as a people.
It is without a doubt that Megan Maynard will be hiding her face from now on. She was able to take advantage of the trust Neu, myself, and the rest of the 17th had in her. She has been black-listed from the militia due to her betrayal; we are most enraged.
Unforatunatly for the Amarr, this coward has decided to hide in the Curse region for now. This means they will have to face the blunt of our anger.
Someday we will get our revenge, and Megan's corpse will be the banner for our tribesmen. A testament to the fate that those like her will face.
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Ren Surkova
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
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Posted - 2008.10.13 04:23:00 -
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*Ren Surkova is sprawled on a soiled bean bag. She idly throws doritos at an incontinent dog who appears to have eaten much of his own matted, greasy fur. She wears her contempt for roleplaying like some crass hat made out of hammy writing and the aforementioned dog fur! Finally with a graceless grunt, she speaks, oh here it comes.*
U MAD? LOL YEA U MAD!
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Gstomp20
Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.10.13 04:54:00 -
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Can I haz ur stuff?
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Cupdeez
Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.10.13 05:02:00 -
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I think CVA (Amarr Empire) paid Megan Maynard very well for this back-stabbing move!
The 17th Minmatar Tactical Wing should start the attack ASAP on the CVA alliance!!
Megan Mynard can be found in the Curse/Providence regions!! I will take payment for more information on Megan's current escape location!
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar 17th Minmatar Tactical Wing
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Posted - 2008.10.13 05:03:00 -
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Originally by: Cupdeez I think CVA (Amarr Empire) paid Megan Maynard very well for this back-stabbing move!
The 17th Minmatar Tactical Wing should start the attack ASAP on the CVA alliance!!
Megan Mynard can be found in the Curse/Providence regions!! I will take payment for more information on Megan's current escape location!
You backstabbing bastard!
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Alica Wildfire
Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency
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Posted - 2008.10.13 05:16:00 -
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I can't believe what I read here. I have been fighting with Megan side by side, fighting off the Evil Empire, downing their fleets and freeing the conquered systems.
The 17th are standing like no other together in this fight and some cheap Amarr money shall be able to betray all of this?
I hope this is nothing but a big misunderstanding.
And I just hope the Amarr are not fighting this way cause I thought even below their wrong cause they were fighting with honour. But to fight like this is a fight noone will be willing to join anymore on their side cause it is dishonouring to fight with people like that.
Long live the 17th! Long live Mitar! -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
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Nona Rebbats
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Posted - 2008.10.13 05:31:00 -
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Edited by: Nona Rebbats on 13/10/2008 05:35:17 *Inara flips on her feed while resting in her over stuffed couch. A little girl can be seen reading in the background and a slave is at Inara's feet working the day's stress out.*
It seems Pilot Maynard pulled the wool over your eyes... I understand the "devastation" this can cause a fledgling corporation (I have witnessed such tactics first hand), but I would be cautious about making accusations without verification. It is possible this is a misunderstanding in the paperwork. I wouldn't be surprised if something as complex as logistics would befuddle the mind of someone flying for the Matari Militia.
That said, I am curious what the rough ISK amount lost was. *reaches for a glass and raises it* Should it prove she managed to kick the dirtiest nation in the knee, I propose a toast in her honor.
And to Pilot Maynard, should you ever need a place to rest there is a room reserved for you planetside, and I will make sure a grand feast is held (given proper notice of course) in your honor... This is assuming you really have dealt them this blow, if not, well I look forward to introducing the hull of your ship to my missiles just as much as the next traveler.
<edit> *Comm quickly reactivates*
Well, it seems that during the time I was recording my previous statements these events were proven. My offer still stands, my chef makes a wonderful chocolate cake, it's sinfully rich and delicious. Just let me know when you would like to stop by.
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Arelius Sarum
Amarr Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.13 06:38:00 -
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A new pod pilot comes on to Galnet and complains about having corp assets stolen. Right afterwards they accuse CVA of plotting this?
Not buying. Per Ardua ad Astra - Through Adversity, to the Stars
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Merdaneth
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.13 07:17:00 -
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I am sad.
Betrayal is a grave sin. It seems obvious traitor Maynard does not know of or believe in the punishment that now awaits her in the afterlife.
This is why slavery exists. Slavery exists to teach lost and immoral persons like traitor Maynard proper values. Yes, such immoral persons need to be restricted, in extreme cases with drugs like Vitoc, to get them to listen to reason, to have them open their ears to the word of God.
Pilots of the 17th, my children, you have just had a harsh lesson, and I feel for you. Don't let traitor Maynards action corrupt or cause you to turn against each other further. Don't descend deeper into the pit of sin yourself.
Please consider to return home to the loving embrace of your spiritual parents. Return home and help us guide you. Return home and let us teach you what is right. Surrender, return home and we can try and prevent such things. Together. ____
The Illusion of Freedom | The Truth about Slavery |
Misou
Innocent Victims
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Posted - 2008.10.13 07:21:00 -
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Originally by: Gstomp20 Can I haz ur stuff?
i thought u gotz their stuff...?
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creo5
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Posted - 2008.10.13 07:24:00 -
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and to those wicked amarrian theifs who steal without thought of the reprocussions that befall them in the everafter, i bequeeth them all my stuff.... wow you guys really get into all this role playing junk don't you?
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.10.13 07:39:00 -
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Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 13/10/2008 07:39:18 First: shut up, Merdaneth. Considering a thousand years of slavery did not stop us from betraying our supposed masters and the Evil God, your plan has some very obvious flaws.
Neu, be in touch. I got stuff to say and things to offer but not in public. You'll rise above it.
Elsebeth
-- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today. |
Kleoptoleme
Minmatar Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.10.13 08:35:00 -
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Well said Ms Rhiannon. Mr Bastian Sir, I am here if you need anything.
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Sophie Starsparrow
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Posted - 2008.10.13 08:44:00 -
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Eran
We, like it seems every other honorable corp in the Republic, are not as healthy as we have been previously.
That said, I still offer you our support. We will help however we can.
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Kade Jeekin
Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.10.13 08:51:00 -
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Kinda'Shujaa pledges their support to the 17th Minmatar Tactical Wing. Should you need it. --------------------------------------- Outface the depths of evil with clarity --------------------------------------- |
Xzar Fyrarr
Minmatar Shadow.
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Posted - 2008.10.13 09:05:00 -
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*ATTEMPT AT RP* Do not flame me if I suck horribly at it......
*Incoming transmission from an unidentified object. Only known information is the ship is of a belliciose hull. Unsure of whether its a Huginn or Rapier, the transmission continues.*
Many crewmen can be seen walking to various places on the very dark command bridge. The lights are dimmed as they usually are. A deep voice begins to speak.*
I have seen both sides of the war, and have watched both sides fight. I have fought along my brothers in the Minmatar Militia against the Amarr empire and I have seen The Gallente Federation fight against the Caldari State. I have ventured deep into amarr territory and as far out as Providence, CVA held terriotry.
I am usually uncaring in the regards of others losses as I don't expect anyone to care about my ship or crew, other than me. This however has caught my attention. Within 20 Standard days, 17th Minmatar Tactical Wing will be seeing aid in combat as well as ISK donations/ loot donations from Shadow. corp.
*FAILED ATTEMPT AT RP OVER*
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Number 17
Caldari COLD-Wing
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Posted - 2008.10.13 09:39:00 -
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I trust you will overcome this. On the other hand, as minmatar you should be used to fight using sticks and stones...
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T 2
Minmatar Tribal Core
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Posted - 2008.10.13 10:53:00 -
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This is sad day for the 17th. Tribal Core also pledges it's support to the 17th Minmatar Tactical Wing. We will help in any way we can.
What does not kill you - will make you stronger!
Death to Amarr and the traitors among us; long live the Minmatar Nation!
Best Regards, T 2 Member of Tribal Core - fighting for Minmatar Militia. Death to Amarr; long live the Minmatar Nation.
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Neu Bastian
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Posted - 2008.10.13 11:35:00 -
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Edited by: Neu Bastian on 13/10/2008 11:37:31 I thank you all for your support. However, please refrain from making any donations to the 17th at the moment, as I've had some offers already. I've been locked out of the CEO position. The Corporation will be re-baptized. An Announcement shall be made before 24 Hours have gone by.
Neu
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Poreuomai
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.10.13 11:50:00 -
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Neu Bastian - I am very sorry to hear this news.
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Mukiri
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.10.13 12:19:00 -
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The Amarr have made a mistake here. The will and spirit to fight their oppression cannot be measured in ships or ISK but in our hearts. This betrayla does not dimish the desire of the Minmatar to be free, it ignites it even more. History shows that ever time the Amarr have thought they had beaten us down we arose and beat them back. Tbhis is just going to be another of those times, now is the time for yet another moment in history when the Minmatar people rise and salp back the Amarr once again showing that they cannot hold us down.
Setbacks do not mean you stop, setbacks mean you take a larger step forward the next time.
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Cytral
Freeform Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.13 12:20:00 -
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ON behalf of my corp and allies, I am saddened to hear of what appears to have transpired. For too long now, we have been stable and a unifying force to be reckoned with, in contrast to our enemies who untill recently have been devided.
This stability, this unity and common purpose itself, a beacon of hope and light in a dark age has become a target. And struck the enemy has, causing weak fractures and devisions within ourselves.
Well, beware for your underhand tactics have backfired, for this now highlights the extent on which we must fight. The flaws highlighted will be corrected Our ties will grow stronger Our warriors will grow hardier And our allies more determined.
Beware Amarr, you have poked the nest one more time, Let us hope you can deal with the swarm that follows!
*Freeform Industries heaby declares support for the 17th.*
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Kimochi Rendar
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.10.13 12:26:00 -
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Kimochi opens a live feed window. She is sitting in a large bubbling hot tub on a spacious balcony that appears to be overlooking the main entertainment concourse of a space station.
A holographic GalNet screen is being projected slightly to the right of her. She seems very amused.
Well boys and girls, this is precisely why trust is the most precious resource in the universe and should only be handed out sparingly to those closest to you.
I've never seen a Brutor cry before... I suppose physical possessions are more important to them than they would have the rest of us believe. I'm afraid I'm not known for my ability to offer pity to the unfortunate... Just pray, 17th, that you learn from your mistakes and are more careful in the future. Chin up though, at least now you'll fully appreciate what little you have left!
She raises a flute of champagne and winks to the camera.
Cheers!
She takes a sip of the liquid, and the feed cuts out.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
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Posted - 2008.10.13 12:56:00 -
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What goes around, goes around, goes around Comes all the way back around...
...every fire needs a little bit help |
Neu Bastian
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Posted - 2008.10.13 13:04:00 -
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With all due respect Kimochi, we don't pray.
Its not the material assets that hurt. Its the betrayal. I trusted Megan, we all did. I even defended her. Well, I was naive. No more. In one thing you're right, this will only harden us and our resolve.
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Drakonus Laerdon
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.13 13:31:00 -
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Edited by: Drakonus Laerdon on 13/10/2008 13:31:45
Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 13/10/2008 07:39:18 First: shut up, Merdaneth. Considering a thousand years of slavery did not stop us from betraying our supposed masters and the Evil God, your plan has some very obvious flaws.
Neu, be in touch. I got stuff to say and things to offer but not in public. You'll rise above it.
Elsebeth
No, Elsebeth, it just shows that your filthy sub-human race needs to be enslaved for a much longer period of time before they reach Enlightenment. Us Amarr are a very patient people. Perhaps 2 or 3 thousand years would suffice?
<Drakonus grins>
We shall one day see. ---------------
Non Nobis, Domine, Non Nobis, Sed nomini tuo da gloriam. |
MobyMule
Minmatar PoliCratton Technologies
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Posted - 2008.10.13 13:42:00 -
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PCTI is there to help our friends in these tough times. I am just happy the Megan has shown her true character before any other damage could have been done.
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Nathan Harrow
Caldari Duty.
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Posted - 2008.10.13 14:24:00 -
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Isk and Ships can be replaced easily, trust cannot.
Despite being on the opposite side of the idealogical barrier, and even though we Caldari are not infamous for our emotional outburts, i hope you catch the thieving bastard.
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Gstomp20
Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.10.13 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Misou
Originally by: Gstomp20 Can I haz ur stuff?
i thought u gotz their stuff...?
Yeah, but I just want to make sure it's ok before i start throwing it at my ships.
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Liberator 1
Gallente Remnants of the Flame
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Posted - 2008.10.13 14:33:00 -
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I'm pretty sure I saw Maynard in Gulfonodi a few days ago, you may want to start looking there.
I will keep my eyes open, and if I see her I'll let you know. ------------------------------------------- ôIf you are in a spaceship that is traveling at the speed of light, and you turn on the headlights, does anything happen?ö ------------------------- |
Khan Rodak
Amarr Manu Dei
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Posted - 2008.10.13 15:18:00 -
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You are not able to protect your assets.
You are not able to implement effective security measures.
How you expect to be able to protect the self-proclaimed-republic interests?
How you expect to be effective on the field?
Close your doors, disband and surender. Renounce to your crimes.
There are a few (gladly not that many) mercyfull institutions that could welcome you.
I'm sure SPCS would find a "special" program for your members.
Seminarium open
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Mukiri
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.10.13 15:24:00 -
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Edited by: Mukiri on 13/10/2008 15:24:15
Originally by: Khan Rodak You are not able to protect your assets. You are not able to implement effective security measures. How you expect to be able to protect the self-proclaimed-republic interests? How you expect to be effective on the field? Close your doors, disband and surender. Renounce to your crimes. There are a few (gladly not that many) mercyfull institutions that could welcome you. I'm sure SPCS would find a "special" program for your members.
Your empire canot follow it's own faith, altering it's interpetation of your Word of God as it suites the moment. You abandon the way God told you to do things when it suites you and then say God has called for something new.
Your faith is false, it is a pretense for abomination to be performed and exercise the guilt from your souls.
Renounce your faith, release the slaves, I am sure some will show you mercy, greater than you ever showed another..
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Arkady Sadik
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.10.13 15:55:00 -
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Edited by: Arkady Sadik on 13/10/2008 15:57:23
Originally by: Khan Rodak You are not able to protect your assets.
You are not able to implement effective security measures.
Close your doors, disband and surender. Renounce to your crimes.
Hey Captain Hypocrisy - I didn't see you doing that when you lost occupancy in 8 of your systems. Instead, you got stronger and fought back (two to go still). This is what will happen here now, too.
It's also quite telling that you seem to care only about the material loss.
We don't. Material loss is irrelevant and easily replaced.
Trust is not.
But trust is something you wouldn't know.
And no, blind faith is not trust.
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Kathryn Dougans
Amarr B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Drakonus Laerdon it just shows that your filthy sub-human race needs to be enslaved for a much longer period of time before they reach Enlightenment.
Please don't call the Minmatar "sub-human". Especially when you then go on to mention Enlightenment.
It makes you look like a fool, in my opinion.
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:30:00 -
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Which position did pilot Megan Maynard hold within your corporation that she could have taken everything?
Diary of a pod pilot |
Megan Maynard
Minmatar 17th Minmatar Tactical Wing
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Myrhial Arkenath Which position did pilot Megan Maynard hold within your corporation that she could have taken everything?
Director.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:59:00 -
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Confirmed. Individual Megan Maynard will be marked as Kill On Sight to all Mixed Metaphor pilots. -----
CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander |
Marcos Dirritu
Minmatar Fearless Scouts
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Myrhial Arkenath Which position did pilot Megan Maynard hold within your corporation that she could have taken everything?
Megan Maynard was a respected FC in the Minmatar Militia. Apparently, the current difficulties of the Militia caused her to reconsider her affiliations and loyalities.
Well, you can't expect everyone to have the strength to stand through difficult times. It's good that the Amarr are putting up some resistance. This helps to weed out the weak.
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Aodha Khan
Minmatar The Paratwa FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:15:00 -
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The rebirth of the 17th will bring them forward with more strength and fire than before. The Paratwa pledges our support in any way we can.
Megan Maynard, you are a filthy traitor to your people. This will not be forgotten...
Paratwa Recruitment |
3ll3
Gallente Tranquillity Nation
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:34:00 -
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When you join a corp it is under the unwritten yet well known condition of trust, you trust your corp and they in turn trust you.
You protect your corp and they in turn protect you.
In doing what has been done this Megan Maynard has commited grevous wrong and though that may just be my and several others view I am sure I can say such actions as stealing from your corp is akin to stealing from your family.
My comiserasions to you 17th upon the hurt and betrayal you must feel at this inderviduals most foul actions.
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Click above to learn more on 3ll3 |
Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Marcos Dirritu
Originally by: Myrhial Arkenath Which position did pilot Megan Maynard hold within your corporation that she could have taken everything?
Megan Maynard was a respected FC in the Minmatar Militia. Apparently, the current difficulties of the Militia caused her to reconsider her affiliations and loyalities.
Well, you can't expect everyone to have the strength to stand through difficult times. It's good that the Amarr are putting up some resistance. This helps to weed out the weak.
Not even the best security measures would have prevented this then. Unless you want to submit your directors to brainwave screening. But then you have to ask yourself why you would have to go that far.
Diary of a pod pilot |
Karl Mattar
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:55:00 -
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There is a reason you don't put tribal savages in charge of anything. Too bad you don't have any other choice.
On the other hand, I am able to sell you scrap to build more ships for your corpmembers to steal. Better to lose your isk in honest trade, I say.
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Pol Macsliebh
Minmatar Encina Technologies
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:58:00 -
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Neu you need anyhelp let us know, We have a war to Fight! Matari !
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Khan Rodak
Amarr Manu Dei
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Posted - 2008.10.13 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Arkady Sadik Edited by: Arkady Sadik on 13/10/2008 15:57:23
Originally by: Khan Rodak You are not able to protect your assets.
You are not able to implement effective security measures.
Close your doors, disband and surender. Renounce to your crimes.
Hey Captain Hypocrisy - I didn't see you doing that when you lost occupancy in 8 of your systems. Instead, you got stronger and fought back (two to go still). This is what will happen here now, too.
It's also quite telling that you seem to care only about the material loss.
We don't. Material loss is irrelevant and easily replaced.
Trust is not.
But trust is something you wouldn't know.
And no, blind faith is not trust.
Fool!
Thanks for highligh my point. We are Amarr. My solution was only suitable for sub-human species.
And yes, sub-human. I chalenge any of you to look on any "enlightment" references by me.
On my vocabulary, sub-human IS and MEANS sub-human. Period!
Seminarium open
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Ugleb
Minmatar Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.10.13 21:15:00 -
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The camera feed resolves to reveal a torch lit room in which stands Ugleb accompanied by a contingent of Brutor crewmen standing silent and grim, each sporting a Khumaak strapped across their backs. A Shaman stands by his side gripping a heavy carved wooden staff. A burning rage is in their eyes, dancing with the flickering flames.
Ill news reaches our ears, the stink of betrayal is carried on the winds. Our blood runs cold even as our spirits burn with rage. There are few things in this world as vile as treachery, none as contemptible as a traitor.
Brothers in arms of the 17th, you have our hearts this day. You who have stood against the Amarr deserve better tidings, to say the least.
Your comrades in the Ushra'Khan stand by you through the challenges of this time. These are the times that test the spirit of warriors, when you suffer the greatest hardships and are reduced to almost nothing. We know what it is to have what we built taken from us, and we know the daunting task of picking up the pieces to continue.
But as we did, so you shall. Stand tall my brothers, stand firm and keep your feet under you. Fight on, for the work is not yet done. Rise my brothers, rise!
Ugleb falls silent a moment, glances back to the Shaman. They share a look and as Ugleb turns back to the camera, the Shaman begins a chant.
And now, for the traitor. Megan Maynard, you have betrayed your brothers in arms as they fight for the liberation of Matar. You betrayed them and in so doing crossed us all. You have disgraced your Tribe, your Clan and you have dishonoured the spirits of your ancestors.
The Shaman raises the heavy staff above his head, then with a great shout strikes it against the deck. The chant grows louder, is taken up by the ranks of Brutor behind him.
Megan Maynard, we curse your name and your spirit. To us you are no better than the Ammatar who kneels before the Amarrian god. Should you cross our path again, then your life is forfeit.
Contact the Sarz'na Khumatari |
Megan Maynard
Minmatar 17th Minmatar Tactical Wing
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Posted - 2008.10.13 21:44:00 -
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"And now, for the traitor. Megan Maynard, you have betrayed your brothers in arms as they fight for the liberation of Matar. You betrayed them and in so doing crossed us all. You have disgraced your Tribe, your Clan and you have dishonoured the spirits of your ancestors."
Funny, I don't see you taking any systems.
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Ugleb
Minmatar Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.10.13 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Megan Maynard "And now, for the traitor. Megan Maynard, you have betrayed your brothers in arms as they fight for the liberation of Matar. You betrayed them and in so doing crossed us all. You have disgraced your Tribe, your Clan and you have dishonoured the spirits of your ancestors."
Funny, I don't see you taking any systems.
I was in the field two nights ago, along with my brothers. If you would like to see me taking a more regular role in that theatre I suggest you take it up with the CONCORD bureaucrats.
But you also don't see me stabbing my comrades in the back, do you?
[OOC] - feel free to talk game mechanics limitations in a place where it may be useful, like here.
Contact the Sarz'na Khumatari |
Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc
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Posted - 2008.10.13 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: Megan Maynard "And now, for the traitor. Megan Maynard, you have betrayed your brothers in arms as they fight for the liberation of Matar. You betrayed them and in so doing crossed us all. You have disgraced your Tribe, your Clan and you have dishonoured the spirits of your ancestors."
Funny, I don't see you taking any systems.
Funny, I didn't see you taking any systems and you are actually in the militia. When I returned to the Bleaks I found you telling the warriors of the Tribal Liberation Force to ignore the enemy plexes because a "turf war" has no benefit. If you did ever lead a gang into a plex it was always to little effect.
Your most notable efforts to date have been in diplomacy where you have gone out of your way to antagonise anyone and everyone wanting to help the war effort. A reputation the 17th will have to work hard to shake off in those same diplomatic circles.
We suspected you were an enemy spy from our first meeting. I am glad you did not have the patience to keep us suspecting too long.
If it talks like a traitor and smells like a traitor it probably is a traitor. It should go without saying you are now marked for death to all Thrace Inc pilots although I suspect you will now be taking a short walk to the vats about now.
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Kathryn Dougans
Amarr B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:01:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Khan Rodak On my vocabulary, sub-human IS and MEANS sub-human. Period!
Saying the Minmitar are sub-human, means it would be blaspheming to teach them the Word. Do you teach cows the Word? Of course you do not, for cows are not human!
Suppose the Minmitar were sub-human? That would mean that everything done in the past hundreds of years would have been blasphemous. And this current Reclaiming would also be blasphemous. And Lady Sarum who wishes the Minmitar to learn the Word would also be a blasphemer.
So, I say to you, that your opinion of the Minmitar as sub-human is wrong.
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar 17th Minmatar Tactical Wing
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:31:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Telemicus Thrace
Originally by: Megan Maynard "And now, for the traitor. Megan Maynard, you have betrayed your brothers in arms as they fight for the liberation of Matar. You betrayed them and in so doing crossed us all. You have disgraced your Tribe, your Clan and you have dishonoured the spirits of your ancestors."
Funny, I don't see you taking any systems.
Funny, I didn't see you taking any systems and you are actually in the militia. When I returned to the Bleaks I found you telling the warriors of the Tribal Liberation Force to ignore the enemy plexes because a "turf war" has no benefit. If you did ever lead a gang into a plex it was always to little effect.
Your most notable efforts to date have been in diplomacy where you have gone out of your way to antagonise anyone and everyone wanting to help the war effort. A reputation the 17th will have to work hard to shake off in those same diplomatic circles.
We suspected you were an enemy spy from our first meeting. I am glad you did not have the patience to keep us suspecting too long.
If it talks like a traitor and smells like a traitor it probably is a traitor. It should go without saying you are now marked for death to all Thrace Inc pilots although I suspect you will now be taking a short walk to the vats about now.
You remember that time you announced an OP was to start after downtime on a saturday and then got royally ****ed off when no one was on saturday BEFORE downtime?
Or the time I started a fleet after downtime on saturday and then offered to HAND it too you only to be told to bugger off?
And then the time I had 40+ militia pilots hug you in militia chat because they wanted to fly with someone competent, not someone who blows up over every little thing?
AND THEN remember the time the militia burned all it's bridges over some lost rifters and a misunderstanding?
And now you will see the results of all these things.
FYI, if you are a competent pilot, and see the name Telemicus Thrace in fleet, leave it post haste, he's a dip shit. (Something I don't have to bite my tongue about anymore.)
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar 17th Minmatar Tactical Wing
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:36:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Megan Maynard on 13/10/2008 23:36:53
Originally by: Ugleb
Originally by: Megan Maynard "And now, for the traitor. Megan Maynard, you have betrayed your brothers in arms as they fight for the liberation of Matar. You betrayed them and in so doing crossed us all. You have disgraced your Tribe, your Clan and you have dishonoured the spirits of your ancestors."
Funny, I don't see you taking any systems.
I was in the field two nights ago, along with my brothers. If you would like to see me taking a more regular role in that theatre I suggest you take it up with the CONCORD bureaucrats.
But you also don't see me stabbing my comrades in the back, do you?
[OOC] - feel free to talk game mechanics limitations in a place where it may be useful, like here.
EDIT: "INSERT" more emo rage here.
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Drakonus Laerdon
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:32:00 -
[54]
Edited by: Drakonus Laerdon on 14/10/2008 00:32:28
Originally by: Kathryn Dougans
Originally by: Khan Rodak On my vocabulary, sub-human IS and MEANS sub-human. Period!
Saying the Minmitar are sub-human, means it would be blaspheming to teach them the Word. Do you teach cows the Word? Of course you do not, for cows are not human!
Suppose the Minmitar were sub-human? That would mean that everything done in the past hundreds of years would have been blasphemous. And this current Reclaiming would also be blasphemous. And Lady Sarum who wishes the Minmitar to learn the Word would also be a blasphemer.
So, I say to you, that your opinion of the Minmitar as sub-human is wrong.
There is nothing wrong with calling the heathen filth "sub-human". Human is the noun, sub is the adjective. They are human, just below that of civilized human beings. Case in point is the ape-like grunting in the terrorist Ugleb's post. Sub-humans act as such.
It is our job to Enlighten the sub-human races so that they may achieve some level of civility. With the Minmatar, this may take several millenia, such is the depths of their sin and depravity. ---------------
Non Nobis, Domine, Non Nobis, Sed nomini tuo da gloriam. |
Kathryn Dougans
Amarr B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:38:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Drakonus Laerdon
There is nothing wrong with calling the heathen filth "sub-human". Human is the noun, sub is the adjective. They are human, just below that of civilized human beings. Case in point is the ape-like grunting in the terrorist Ugleb's post. Sub-humans act as such.
As you wish, then. I still think the use of the term "sub-human" doesn't help matters. It's far too easily twisted by propagandists.
Quote: It is our job to Enlighten the sub-human races so that they may achieve some level of civility. With the Minmatar, this may take several millenia, such is the depths of their sin and depravity
I don't believe I said that bringing enlightenment to the Minmitar was a bad idea. I said it was foolish if you think they were sub-human, in the sense of being incapable of human thought and behaviour. I see now that you probably meant uncivilised. Which is an entirely different situation.
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Chib
Storm Guard Elite
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:05:00 -
[56]
may i ask the sum of what went missing?
and megan send me some im totally skints ---------------------------------------------
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:09:00 -
[57]
I'm not entirely sure which I consider to less worthy of continued existence: a slaver, or a traitor. Lucky for me, I have enough ammo for both.
I hope you've sold your honor for a good price, Maynard. Use the proceeds do buy a deep, dark hole to hide yourself in.
-- Becq Starforged Ushra'Khan
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Nano J
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Posted - 2008.10.14 07:04:00 -
[58]
firstly, to the amarr idiot who keeps telling us we're sub-human.... if we're so far under your scope of civilization, why bother talking to us at all? that's just redundant. you might as well be telling a dead body that it's dead. what an idiot.
as for megan, i think you know that you have thoroughly angered a lot of people, and the people that do accept you for your treason (if any) are fools; once a traitor, always a traitor. the 17th has had the biggest rally of support in the last 24 hours than in its whole existence. we've already accumulated a mass equal to what you stole and we SHALL have our revenge. in hindsight, i must thank you for bringing so much attention to our cause. now we have the resources to put the war back into our favor. cowardice shows only short-term victory.
P.S. amarr suck
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Poreuomai
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.10.14 08:01:00 -
[59]
Edited by: Poreuomai on 14/10/2008 08:02:26
Originally by: Megan Maynard FYI, if you are a competent pilot, and see the name Telemicus Thrace in fleet, leave it post haste, he's a dip shit. (Something I don't have to bite my tongue about anymore.)
Megan do you really think ANYONE will still trust YOUR advice now?
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Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.14 09:02:00 -
[60]
Ms. Maynard will be going on my personal KoS list permanently.
I fully expect to see the 17th fully operational and a threat to us on the battlefield for a long time to come.
Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public' |
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Ethidium Bromide
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.14 10:30:00 -
[61]
Edited by: Ethidium Bromide on 14/10/2008 10:32:41 i condemn any form of betrayal no matter the corp or militia! what frustration must have ridden the traitor to not only betray her cause but also those who trusted her is beyond me. clearly she lost all her humanity in this.
as Admiral Lok'ri said though, i expect you back in full strength soon so you may see the light without excuses.
Originally by: George Petsch Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida.
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Daevonar
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.10.14 11:06:00 -
[62]
It would appear that once again we, the Minmatar, witness another crime visited upon us by the Amarr.
Whether they had direct involvement in this act is irrelevent. The years we have spent enslaved, oppressed and stripped of our dignity are surely to blame for any Minmatar losing sight of their loyalty to their own people and commiting such treacherous acts.
Yet to the Amarr I say this, we are now a free people, our bonds of blood and race are being revitalised day by day; eventually we will bring you to account for your crimes against us.
To those in power I urge you to name those who turn traitor Outcast, without home, family or tribe.
To the 17th, I offer my shared anger at the treachery you have been subjected to. Our CEO has offered our Corporations help, and I am certain we all stand with her in this offer. D.
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Yendaj
Minmatar Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.10.14 11:32:00 -
[63]
Heretic Nation has now been accused of orchestrating this act of betrayal, just because Megan Maynard was in Heretics for a very short amount of time...
Let me address this now
1. We were probably the best corp to target as far as a betrayal goes 2. We just arent that stupid 3. We dont hand out roles to anyone we havent known for a very long time 4. We used to provide ships, mods and isk to Minmatar out of our own pockets 5. I gave Electus Matari a ship worth atleast 100 mil to use as a prize 6. We were ripped off before faction war 2 billion by a trusted Director and would never make that mistake again 7. We loathe corp thieves (refer to 6) 8. The Minmatar have royally shyte on us on many occasions 9. We take our revenge for things the old fashioned way as pirates 10. We just blow shit up when seeking said revenge
Any problems with comprehending that all you pathetic witch hunting Minmatar and especially Lewis of the 17th.... Get hooked on phonics special Minmatar edition
Or...
Get stuffed.... I am about down with your ******ed blame throwing...
You stuffed up, you handed out roles and shares to someone you barely knew and you got burned...
You blew up Heretic ships 2 mins after being told we were there shooting our own enemies who werent in any militia (for an opportunity kill no less...as we went flashy red)
You are hypocrites and cowards..........Take responsibility for your own mess, you created it, now deal with the consequences...
All of the above is the reason why Heretics left faction warfare....
You can stop whining now, we are actively shooting everyone....You arent special..
The Pirates have created a 5th Militia, the only bonus to this is, we finally get to fly with competent pilots, who dont need baby sitting, who dont whine when things go wrong, who fight outnumbered and with sentry guns attacking them also....and to the amazement of so many who dont know how to pilot a ship properly....we usually win...
You all had low sec become a safe zone for far too long, you have taken it for granted that you could move around freely in low sec as though it were empire...
The tears that are flowing now are because you dont quite comprehend you entered an arena that has been the home of pirates for eons....
Now those pirates are taking back what belongs to them already...
You can have little flashy signs staked out everywhere saying this system belongs to Amarr, this system belongs to Minmatar..... Makes no difference to us.....Because we all know, and very soon you will all comprehend, that the sov in a system is pointless, when its occupied by Pirates...
Dont feel so comfortable in low sec anymore, dont fly those navy megathrons and haulers across the great divide of low sec as though you are safe, because theres now a pirate on every corner, just waiting for your stupidity to provide them with a kill...
Get out now while you still have your ships, because you left your dignity in high security space a long long time ago....
** Nemo Me Impune Lacessit ** |
Evanda Char
Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.10.14 11:51:00 -
[64]
With regard to Megan...
If it looks like a %&*!, talks like a %&*! and acts like a %&*!, it's probably a %&*!.
Regarding Heretic... Yendaj, I've been out of the loop for a while. Is it OK if I sling you a convo later to get your side of the story?
-Eva-
Electus Matari - taking it one bad guy at a time |
Yendaj
Minmatar Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.10.14 11:53:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Evanda Char With regard to Megan...
If it looks like a %&*!, talks like a %&*! and acts like a %&*!, it's probably a %&*!.
Regarding Heretic... Yendaj, I've been out of the loop for a while. Is it OK if I sling you a convo later to get your side of the story?
Yes, no problems there, we have no issue with you or anyone else that hasnt carried on like a right moron towards us, especially after all we have done for Minmatar since faction war began...
To say im not royally peeved off right now would be an understatement...
** Nemo Me Impune Lacessit ** |
Marcos Dirritu
Minmatar Fearless Scouts
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Posted - 2008.10.14 12:20:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Yendaj 8. The Minmatar have royally shyte on us on many occasions
No, we haven't. You are blaming some isolated incidents from a few idiotic members of the militia on the whole militia. You are conveniently forgetting that there is no way to restrict the membership in the militia, or to enforce any kind of rule, and treat the militia as an alliance, which it isn't.
Heretics have stood in the highest regards for most of the militia for a long time. MirrorGod was the best-liked FC the militia had. When Heretics called, people brought everything they had.
Until quite recently.
Heretic Nation told a number of Minmatar Militia corps that mutual blue would be nice, as the Nation would move in to the area. The mutual blue was agreed upon with a number of corporations. That was the wise thing to do - "the militia" is not a coherent entity, so individual agreements are important.
Then MirrorGod left for a few days due to other business. Yendaj took it upon herself to reset all the blues, without informing the individual corporations about it, having her members shoot on formerly blue people, and then throwing a tantrum on the forums on how mean the militia is. Oh, right, also at the same time declaring themselves to be allies of the Amarr now, and the Minmatar Militia to be their enemy.
Now, Heretic Militia members, people in the militia, are firing on other militia members, and are fleeting up with other militia members and are trying to gang warp them into traps - and other such beautiful things.
With unprofessional unannounced standing resets like these, backstabbing supposed allies like this, are you really confused that people think that two different backstabbing traitors that start their business basically at the same time might be related?
I doubt it they are, though. Unless Yendaj implemented this without MirrorGod's knowledge. But who knows.
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Lady Fuyya
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.10.14 15:24:00 -
[67]
with regard to yendaj
If it looks like a %&*!, talks like a %&*! and acts like a %&*!, it's probably a %&*!.
this woman has a major dildo up her arse. ever heard her on voice?
She wants her arse kissed and when no one does it spits the dummy tit out and all her toys.
ltb snake implants!!!!
kind regards,
Fu ..I..
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Hoffnar
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Posted - 2008.10.14 16:32:00 -
[68]
Yendaj, when the theft first happened, the thought of Heretics having some hand in it was by no means out of the question. Besides Megan's prior connection to your corp, the timing of the incident along with recent events seemed...questionable. In the past 72 hours Heretics have done nothing but try and sabotage the militia before they leave it. What better way to sabotage then to steal all the assets of one of the active militia corps. Although we know it wasn't Heretics that was behind it, you can hardly blame anyone, especially in light of recent events, for thinking that it might have been.
In regard to the rest of your rant...get over yourself. You are beginning to sound like a broken record, saying the same thing over and over again. This was a line of communication discussing a corporate theft, and you took it as another chance to whine about your ship getting popped, militia not appreciating you, pirates, etc.
Back on topic, thank you to all the corps and supporters who have helped the 17th get back on its feet under a new name. Now that we are up and running again, we'll be able to direct our anger back to where it truly belongs.
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Gstomp20
Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.10.14 16:39:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Gstomp20 on 14/10/2008 16:43:06 Have to say i fully agree with the posts above mine.
While this is taking a turn to the OT, i have to chime in. I flew in the Militia for a short time, but while i was there i came to respect MG as a person and an FC. He's a good guy, and well qualified to lead a gang.
However, nails on a chalkboard can't even begin to relate to the amount of irritation and annoyance that is Yendaj. I realize flak from MG will likely come my way for saying this, but hey, everyone has their own opinion.
FFS, just because you are dating/married to MG in RL doesnt make you as well liked, as well qualified, or even have near as much presence as him anywhere. You come into a gang, start telling people to STFU then make all kinds of noise and comm chatter on your own that has nothing to do with whats going on. And you wondered why when he left a gang and you took over people started dropping fleet? Giving people commands that make no sense and contradict the FC (no matter who it was), breaking up the symphony that was a gang with MG at one time. No one respects you. You have done nothing to earn it. For some reason, you feel the need to make posts all over this forum about this or that, most of the time things you know nothing about. Even with posts like the one you made here, you continue to show yourself as a completely incompetent individual, hiding under the guise of your mate as if anyone believes for a second you are .05% as much respected as he is. Some solace can be found in the fact that at least i do not have to listen to your chicken-squaking on Vent anymore.
Know your role, and STFU.
Quote: To say im not royally peeved off right now would be an understatement...
PS - Don't forget to take your Midol.
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Val Sharen
Caldari Freewind Ventures
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Posted - 2008.10.14 17:00:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Val Sharen on 14/10/2008 17:06:51
Originally by: Yendaj
Heretic Nation has now been accused of orchestrating this act of betrayal, just because Megan Maynard was in Heretics for a very short amount of time...
Let me address this now
1. We were probably the best corp to target as far as a betrayal goes 2. We just arent that stupid 3. We dont hand out roles to anyone we havent known for a very long time 4. We used to provide ships, mods and isk to Minmatar out of our own pockets 5. I gave Electus Matari a ship worth atleast 100 mil to use as a prize 6. We were ripped off before faction war 2 billion by a trusted Director and would never make that mistake again 7. We loathe corp thieves (refer to 6) 8. The Minmatar have royally shyte on us on many occasions 9. We take our revenge for things the old fashioned way as pirates 10. We just blow shit up when seeking said revenge
Any problems with comprehending that all you pathetic witch hunting Minmatar and especially Lewis of the 17th.... Get hooked on phonics special Minmatar edition
Or...
Get stuffed.... I am about down with your ******ed blame throwing...
You stuffed up, you handed out roles and shares to someone you barely knew and you got burned...
You blew up Heretic ships 2 mins after being told we were there shooting our own enemies who werent in any militia (for an opportunity kill no less...as we went flashy red)
You are hypocrites and cowards..........Take responsibility for your own mess, you created it, now deal with the consequences...
All of the above is the reason why Heretics left faction warfare....
You can stop whining now, we are actively shooting everyone....You arent special..
The Pirates have created a 5th Militia, the only bonus to this is, we finally get to fly with competent pilots, who dont need baby sitting, who dont whine when things go wrong, who fight outnumbered and with sentry guns attacking them also....and to the amazement of so many who dont know how to pilot a ship properly....we usually win...
You all had low sec become a safe zone for far too long, you have taken it for granted that you could move around freely in low sec as though it were empire...
The tears that are flowing now are because you dont quite comprehend you entered an arena that has been the home of pirates for eons....
Now those pirates are taking back what belongs to them already...
You can have little flashy signs staked out everywhere saying this system belongs to Amarr, this system belongs to Minmatar..... Makes no difference to us.....Because we all know, and very soon you will all comprehend, that the sov in a system is pointless, when its occupied by Pirates...
Dont feel so comfortable in low sec anymore, dont fly those navy megathrons and haulers across the great divide of low sec as though you are safe, because theres now a pirate on every corner, just waiting for your stupidity to provide them with a kill...
Get out now while you still have your ships, because you left your dignity in high security space a long long time ago....
Let me say even though my sister and I have disagreements, dishonesty, disloyalty and theft are not things she does. Nor do any of the Heretics. A good bunch of people they have always been and always will be and they have been hurt before as she has said and would not do that to another person or corp it is not right from a business perspective or friendship perspective.
So look elsewhere to shift blame to or perhaps back to where it truly belongs, upon the person who committed the crime. In the end that is what matters.
I am not sure of the politics with them since I left the Nation a couple months ago, however I am talking about simple things, not the politics of the militia which frankly were beyond me even at the time I was in.
All have an opinion and all can voice it, sometimes it is just not worth the trouble. Some I see are quite vocal I am glad some are getting things off their chests so to speak.
*waves to the comm panel*
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Righteous Fury
Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.14 18:33:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Righteous Fury on 14/10/2008 18:36:20 Excellent work, it seems the second stage of the plan is coming together nicely.
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Neu Bastian
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Posted - 2008.10.14 18:34:00 -
[72]
Pilots, we're back in business.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=896490
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Yendaj
Minmatar Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.10.14 19:36:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Marcos Dirritu
Originally by: Yendaj 8. The Minmatar have royally shyte on us on many occasions
No, we haven't. You are blaming some isolated incidents from a few idiotic members of the militia on the whole militia. You are conveniently forgetting that there is no way to restrict the membership in the militia, or to enforce any kind of rule, and treat the militia as an alliance, which it isn't.
Heretics have stood in the highest regards for most of the militia for a long time. MirrorGod was the best-liked FC the militia had. When Heretics called, people brought everything they had.
Until quite recently.
Heretic Nation told a number of Minmatar Militia corps that mutual blue would be nice, as the Nation would move in to the area. The mutual blue was agreed upon with a number of corporations. That was the wise thing to do - "the militia" is not a coherent entity, so individual agreements are important.
Then MirrorGod left for a few days due to other business. Yendaj took it upon herself to reset all the blues, without informing the individual corporations about it, having her members shoot on formerly blue people, and then throwing a tantrum on the forums on how mean the militia is. Oh, right, also at the same time declaring themselves to be allies of the Amarr now, and the Minmatar Militia to be their enemy.
Now, Heretic Militia members, people in the militia, are firing on other militia members, and are fleeting up with other militia members and are trying to gang warp them into traps - and other such beautiful things.
With unprofessional unannounced standing resets like these, backstabbing supposed allies like this, are you really confused that people think that two different backstabbing traitors that start their business basically at the same time might be related?
I doubt it they are, though. Unless Yendaj implemented this without MirrorGod's knowledge. But who knows.
Instead of listening to hearsay and ravings from other people, why dont you try a few facts..
Minmatar attacked tfs and heretics as we left on an op the very day tfs arrived in the area after me getting 17th tactical blues to tfs...
So then TFS ofcourse decided all bets are off... If the mins intend to shoot flashy reds for opportunity kills, so be it......
All hell broke loose with Minmatar after a few of them died and next minute the usual b*llshit and propaganda spews forth out of the spies mouthes..... Oh heretics is setting us up, heretics is back stabbing us, blah blah
Biggest mouthes of all, Maarge Blood and Eran Mintor in all of this...
Then we have a plan for almost two hours in Minmatar Militia chat how the Minmatar are going to drop 2 dreadnaughts on our cap ships... Said dreads are dropped, one docks in structure, several ships lost..
Then ofcourse we have 17th tactical member sitting at a gate for 2 minutes with his fleet waiting until we had finished shooting 2 battleship class ships before he then opens fire on me with the rest of his fleet...
Dont bother trying to twist things to your advantage or make out that heretics reset standings with no word...
Every single person on TLF Intel channel was informed of the standings reset on the spot and most of them sent me private commnunications saying standings reset and I confirmed..
If your CEO didnt inform you then stiff shit in my opinion...
It has been well known for several days now that Heretics standings are completely reset, its been broadcast all over Galnet what is going on with us.... Why is it that you can all read the last communication in this thread, but are incapable to reading every other piece of communication regarding recent events with Heretics??
This is probably why you did get ripped off I should think....
You all have the slave mentality anyway...........None of you will get off your a*ses and do anything for yourselves without someone else leading you by your hair towards the goal.. ** Nemo Me Impune Lacessit ** |
Yendaj
Minmatar Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.10.14 19:41:00 -
[74]
It took Mirrorgod FC'ing 12 hours a day for Minmatar to even get where they did..
The ofcourse there hundreds of Minmatar that used to run around stealing loot and not exactly participating in anything but the act of theft and opportunity salvage..
Were you capable of putting as much effort into claiming systems and fighting the Amarr without us, as you are in pointing the finger and blaming Heretics when things go wrong..
You would probably have this war won already, even without us....
The likelihood of that now?...
ZERO
As for the CEO of Slackers, dont be a moron.....
No Amarr had any hand in planning the pirates attack on bleak lands....
Only pirates are smart enough to pull something like this off in the first place...
Good luck in empire... o/ ** Nemo Me Impune Lacessit ** |
Marcos Dirritu
Minmatar Fearless Scouts
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Posted - 2008.10.14 20:00:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Yendaj Minmatar attacked tfs and heretics as we left on an op the very day tfs arrived in the area after me getting 17th tactical blues to tfs...
You are making the same mistake again: You assume that "the militia" is a coherent group, like an alliance. It isn't. You are flashy. Neutrals will attack you. Live with it. Arrange for mutual blues if you don't to be shot at. What you do is to drop mutual blue, and then throwing some tantrums on the forums how people dare to shoot flashies.
Were any of the people who shot you blue? No? Thought so.
Quote: So then TFS ofcourse decided all bets are off... If the mins intend to shoot flashy reds for opportunity kills, so be it......
TFS killed a Minmatar Militia ship on 2008-07-03, and lost their first ship to the militia on 2008-07-11. Yes, they were obviously not there to shoot any militia, they just did so when the opportunity presented itself. They also got shot at when the opportunity presented itself. That's what NBSI is about. If you can't stand NBSI, don't be NBSI.
Quote: Yes, TFS came to the area not intending to shoot anyone. They only said they are NBSI
I like that sentence. It's such a good summary of Yendaj-logic.
Quote: Then ofcourse we have 17th tactical member sitting at a gate for 2 minutes with his fleet waiting until we had finished shooting 2 battleship class ships before he then opens fire on me with the rest of his fleet...
Were you blue to him?
Quote: Every single person on TLF Intel channel was informed of the standings reset on the spot and most of them sent me private commnunications saying standings reset and I confirmed..
I'll inform the relevant CEOs - multiple ones - that it's inacceptable that they are not active 24/7 in case Yendaj decides to announce a standings reset in a shared intel channel.
Quote: It has been well known for several days now that Heretics standings are completely reset, its been broadcast all over Galnet
Could you please link that standing reset announcement?
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Marcos Dirritu
Minmatar Fearless Scouts
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Posted - 2008.10.14 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Yendaj 17th Minmatar also set us red, they reset first and instead of setting neutral set us as red... Without telling me....Red to most people means KOS, so you can draw your own conclusions now on how this got where it did..
17th is an NRDS corporation. "Red" for NRDS means their pilots are allowed to shoot at you. You know, like "neutral" to NBSI. They set you red after you backstabbed the militia. Are you surprised?
Quote: It took Mirrorgod FC'ing 12 hours a day for Minmatar to even get where they did..
And it took you only half that time to destroy everything he built up. Congrats.
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Yendaj
Minmatar Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.10.14 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: Marcos Dirritu
Originally by: Yendaj 17th Minmatar also set us red, they reset first and instead of setting neutral set us as red... Without telling me....Red to most people means KOS, so you can draw your own conclusions now on how this got where it did..
17th is an NRDS corporation. "Red" for NRDS means their pilots are allowed to shoot at you. You know, like "neutral" to NBSI. They set you red after you backstabbed the militia. Are you surprised?
Quote: It took Mirrorgod FC'ing 12 hours a day for Minmatar to even get where they did..
And it took you only half that time to destroy everything he built up. Congrats.
You actually assume that Mirrorgod isnt happy with what is going on right now.... That is probably because you dont even realise that Mirrorgod and I live together.... sigh
As for you twisting things around to suit yourself and your sordid view...
What is the point in trying to explain something to someone like you? You will on see what you want and think what you want, you are a man after all...
Higher levels of intelligence are always well known to stem from the female brain...
Even our capacity for logic seems to far outweigh what a man can manage to fathom...
If Mirrorgod had any issue with what was going on right now.... He wouldnt have entered faction war as a -10 Pirate with good intentions...
That pirate led the Minmatar to Victory, I know, I was at his side the entire time....
We managed to choke down alot of the bull shit from the very beginning and still pulled out the other side.... But dont kid yourself young man........ Mirrorgod is now and always will be a Pirate..
Heretics is now and always has been a Pirate Alliance...
Unfortunately we had to slot ourselves in some little funnel directed by Concord, the Republic and many other sanctions and govt directives....
It is amazing we lasted as long as we did....
Pirates won your war for you in the first couple of months...
Pirates are now taking it away from you...
No more tears.... Just learn to deal with it... ** Nemo Me Impune Lacessit ** |
Khan Rodak
Amarr Manu Dei
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Posted - 2008.10.14 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kathryn Dougans
Originally by: Khan Rodak On my vocabulary, sub-human IS and MEANS sub-human. Period!
Saying the Minmitar are sub-human, means it would be blaspheming to teach them the Word. Do you teach cows the Word? Of course you do not, for cows are not human!
Suppose the Minmitar were sub-human? That would mean that everything done in the past hundreds of years would have been blasphemous. And this current Reclaiming would also be blasphemous. And Lady Sarum who wishes the Minmitar to learn the Word would also be a blasphemer.
So, I say to you, that your opinion of the Minmitar as sub-human is wrong.
A monkey playing tricks, is far from beeing human. A parrot talking, is far from beeing human.
An animal able to speak, listen or learn is still an animal.
So, I say to you, that your knowledge about what we do and what we stand for is wrong.
Seminarium open
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MobyMule
Minmatar PoliCratton Technologies
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Posted - 2008.10.14 20:35:00 -
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Edited by: MobyMule on 14/10/2008 20:36:13 I think there are two issues here. First is milita mechanics suck. A stucture like concord gave us is impossible to control to the extant of people killing non militia corps/alliances. It doesn't matter if a good many of the corps were set blue or even knew TFS was coming in. There are too many loose cannons to control and to many variables with all the different standings issues. I don't think that is a valid reason to go postal on everyone but a good enough one for a pirate. I think the Heretics are tying to make a statement about said structure through these actions. It just sucks for the rest of us still in milita. Second is that I think until Rank and controlling systems has some sort of payoff from our faction then we will continue to lose good pilots.
Also I give much respect to the Heretic FC's who did a great job. I think they did very well in showing alot of the noobish milita how to organize fleets and how to fight organized warfare. Their efforts speak for themselves and they need to be recognized for it.
Congrats to Neu and the boys from 17th for getting back up and running and I look forward to the many fun days ahead.
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Eran Mintor
Valklear Guard
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Posted - 2008.10.14 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Yendaj Accusations, threats, and yes, even her own whining.
Well, I've been trying to reason with Yendaj for this past weekend, however her own opinions are so deeply lodged in her brain that it's a waste of time. Quite simply, they're pirates, and while they say they were here for the Matari freedom fighters, their true motive was the murder of Amarr. They did a lot of work offensively for the TLF, but trying to get them to see the good in our own work was impossible; it was like trying to reason, or tame, a rabid dog.
For the public record,
First, myself and Neu never accused Heretics of putting Megan up to her betrayal. It was an oddly timed conicidence, and you can't blame some people for looking at the actions of the Heretics followed by Megan's betrayal as a curious turn of events. I never thought Heretic's would do such a thing, and I still don't believe it was Heretics doing. However you can tell how gullable I have been in the past...infact I'll give you more examples of how I've been fooled.
Second, 17th never broke its NAP with TFS. Yendaj had informed me several days beforehand of TFS incursion into the region. She had told me that it would "help the Minmatar" and that a mutual blue standing was in our best interests. 17th was the only organization aside from Heretic Militia to have been granted these standings. I took it as a favor from Yendaj, and I thought nothing else of it. An un-wise mistake on my part.
Within 24 hours of the signing of the treaty, there was already reason to retract. A mixed 17th/TLF/Heretic fleet was engaged by a roaming TFS fleet. We didn't go back on our word, and stood by with our hands tied behind our backs as TFS destroyed the TLF division of the fleet. Noone in 17th fired upon TFS in this instance; it was actually a Heretic pilot who said, "to hell with politics" and saw the wrong in what was going on. Your own Heretic fired upon TFS, starting the first wave of "drama". It was realized that this treaty was not a benefit to 17th when it would allow TFS to destroy the manpower that the militia relies so heavily upon. It's not just Heretics, 17th, or any individual who is responsible for the gains of TLF; everyone has their part. MirrorGod is a great FC and has taught us much, however he cannot take all the credit. He is but one man. Yet this is not pertinant to what I'm trying to get across here, so I digress.
When 17th realized that the NAP was of no benefit to the militia, we retracted the treaty. Heretic Nation (Yendaj) took this as their opportunity to hereby declare a reset of standings and their NBSI intentions in our backyard. They demonstrated said NBSI policy by attacking TLF assets. In one of the later events, MirrorGod even tried to fleet warp a militia dread into a TFS pirate camp. It was quite obvious that no Heretic was on our side any longer. It was time for us to defend our REAL allies.
Third, 17th didn't set Heretic's red, Heretic's have been "Orange" since the declaration made by Yendaj. Orange standing marks you as hostile to us, but our RoE states that pilots are not to engage unless in defense of themselves or allies. One 17th pilot didn't understand this new change in our RoE and made a mistake. Neu tried reasoning with Yendaj, but that has never worked. She said "it was out of her hands." Diplomacy was impossible.
Those who fail to see the deception that drips from Heretic's venomous fangs have their own issues to deal with. I will not argue with individuals or groups who twist and contort events to match their liking and support them the best. Yes, militia pilots have fired upon the pirates of Heretic Militia and Nation, however you cannot blame the whole entirity of the militia and the Minmatar for these actions. But you do anyways, so I cannot stop you.
Well, that's all I feel that needs to be said.
I would like to extend my thanks to all those who have helped 17th. I will see to it that your faith in us is not lost.
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Anneka Tong
B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm
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Posted - 2008.10.15 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Nano J amarr suck
I am understanding that this truth is only in context of the bedroom.
Also, that very good at it, they are.
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Yendaj
Minmatar Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.10.15 03:02:00 -
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Originally by: Eran Mintor Well, I've been trying to reason with Yendaj for this past weekend, however her own opinions are so deeply lodged in her brain that it's a waste of time. Quite simply, they're pirates, and while they say they were here for the Matari freedom fighters, their true motive was the murder of Amarr. They did a lot of work offensively for the TLF, but trying to get them to see the good in our own work was impossible; it was like trying to reason, or tame, a rabid dog.
First, myself and Neu never accused Heretics of putting Megan up to her betrayal. It was an oddly timed conicidence, and you can't blame some people for looking at the actions of the Heretics followed by Megan's betrayal as a curious turn of events. I never thought Heretic's would do such a thing, and I still don't believe it was Heretics doing. However you can tell how gullable I have been in the past...infact I'll give you more examples of how I've been fooled.
Second, 17th never broke its NAP with TFS. Yendaj had informed me several days beforehand of TFS incursion into the region. She had told me that it would "help the Minmatar" and that a mutual blue standing was in our best interests. 17th was the only organization aside from Heretic Militia to have been granted these standings. I took it as a favor from Yendaj, and I thought nothing else of it. An un-wise mistake on my part.
Within 24 hours of the signing of the treaty, there was already reason to retract. A mixed 17th/TLF/Heretic fleet was engaged by a roaming TFS fleet. We didn't go back on our word, and stood by with our hands tied behind our backs as TFS destroyed the TLF division of the fleet. Noone in 17th fired upon TFS in this instance; it was actually a Heretic pilot who said, "to hell with politics" and saw the wrong in what was going on. Your own Heretic fired upon TFS, starting the first wave of "drama". It was realized that this treaty was not a benefit to 17th when it would allow TFS to destroy the manpower that the militia relies so heavily upon. It's not just Heretics, 17th, or any individual who is responsible for the gains of TLF; everyone has their part. MirrorGod is a great FC and has taught us much, however he cannot take all the credit. He is but one man. Yet this is not pertinant to what I'm trying to get across here, so I digress.
When 17th realized that the NAP was of no benefit to the militia, we retracted the treaty. Heretic Nation (Yendaj) took this as their opportunity to hereby declare a reset of standings and their NBSI intentions in our backyard. They demonstrated said NBSI policy by attacking TLF assets. In one of the later events, MirrorGod even tried to fleet warp a militia dread into a TFS pirate camp. It was quite obvious that no Heretic was on our side any longer. It was time for us to defend our REAL allies.
Third, 17th didn't set Heretic's red, Heretic's have been "Orange" since the declaration made by Yendaj. Orange standing marks you as hostile to us, but our RoE states that pilots are not to engage unless in defense of themselves or allies. One 17th pilot didn't understand this new change in our RoE and made a mistake. Neu tried reasoning with Yendaj, but that has never worked. She said "it was out of her hands." Diplomacy was impossible.
Those who fail to see the deception that drips from Heretic's venomous fangs have their own issues to deal with. I will not argue with individuals or groups who twist and contort events to match their liking and support them the best. Yes, militia pilots have fired upon the pirates of Heretic Militia and Nation.[/quote
Yes, because this type of attitude and accusations of deception and betrayal hasnt been fully propagated by you since the first Minmatar shot at TFS? Your rant and rave in tlf intel channel is what started the downward spiral in the first place, then your pilot shot me down for an opportunity kill and you made heretics your enemy...If you cant cope with the truth Eran... ** Nemo Me Impune Lacessit ** |
Yendaj
Minmatar Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.10.15 03:09:00 -
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Get out of the war zone and take a break...
Everything you have just said about Heretics is quite ridiculous to say the very least..
But it was always people like you and Maarg Blood carrying on in this manner that turned Heretics into the enemy...
You have some over inflated opinion of yourselves and very little respect or gratitude for what Heretics did for faction war from the offset..
Read a few other posts, come to grips with the reason why we have done what we have done... All of this is just waffle really...
So many others comprehend the situation with Heretics right now, you are just taking it all so personally that you cant come to grips with it...
You need to chill out, relax a little, think about the big picture.... Faction war is broken......We could have stayed for another two months and lost most of our pilots, or we could have done what we have done...
Actually get off our arses to try and make a difference and solve the faction war issue....
You all know what pirates are about, you all just got so damn comfortable being able to fly haulers into low sec with absolutely no danger...
Boo blo ody hooo...
Low sec was never for empire carebears in the first place....Thats why concord stays out of it, less secure << means LESS SECURE!!!!
Now, if the powers that be dont bother to fix faction war, then you have your overall answer about the entire purpose of it, completely futile, waste of time, why bother..
(ooc: the role play has even become boring as its just repetition after repetition of how one set blobbed the other set and boo hoo someone gained or lost a system)
I do hope when you get a chance to calm down you might ponder this a little, and maybe rearrange your opinion on the people who spent all their time and isk making fw fun for the first 2 months or so...
I harbour no grudges against any of the pilots we flew with, but really, the attitudes so far.... I have more respect for the Amarr we flew against
See you in space
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Val Sharen
Caldari Freewind Ventures
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**chuckles on the comm channel** Ahh my dear sister not many can comprehend beyond the immediate situation. You still get me to laugh trying to make some comprehend though and I often wonder why do you fluster yourself over it.
Be well my sister you and MG fly safe and smart as always. If you need such you know the secure channel.
*blows a kiss as the link fades**
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Nano J
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Posted - 2008.10.15 11:33:00 -
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yendaj, i was only logged for a short amount of time when the first bit of confusion fell. this is what my personal observation revealed...
a NAP was signed between the 17th and the heretics. some random militia members attacked you, seeing as you ARE pirates and were probably blinky. you then blamed the whole minmatar militia for a few noobish actions that weren't in any way connected to the 17th. i blame game mechanics on this problem. eran did his best to reconcile the issue and i saw several apologies on his part for people not even connected to him. the 17th does appreciate all your help in the past, but i was jumped by MG's fleet myself not even a day after the "friendly fire" incident. i don't know much about politics- i'm merely a tactical FC (at most) for the 17th. i have never given any order to engage any heretic pilot and openly warn any non-17th fleet members to run, should they show up. this is completely in accordance to the NAP, and yet it failed anyway. i believe that the issue is in game mechanics and the NAP itself. i suggest we resolve all blame to game mechanics and go our separate ways. if you'd like to continue to hunt in minmatar warzones, it's your right to; but i'd like to think that the heretics are honorable people and would accept a personal NAP with any fleet i command. i'm willing to contact you guys if i ever FC to avoid the confusion that ruined our NAP.
as for megan, you can't blame us for being questionable about heretics involvement at first, but now we know where megan's loyalties lie. i can't say much for the whole militia, but i apologize for any insult you may have taken from the accusation.
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Yendaj
Minmatar Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.10.15 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Nano J
as for megan, you can't blame us for being questionable about heretics involvement at first, but now we know where megan's loyalties lie. i can't say much for the whole militia, but i apologize for any insult you may have taken from the accusation.
Thank you, thats the first apology for the detailed posting on another communications stating very clearly that the 17th believed Heretics ochestrated the entire thing with Megan Maynard..
There have been admissions from one person high up in the 17th that this indeed happened and they believed it, then we have the CEO denying this ever happened.... The the person who wrote it sending me personal communications saying he did indeed say it and still believes it to be so...
You may be the only person in the 17th so far that doesnt want to further the anomosity between Heretics and the Minmatar Militia...
Any chance of settling any missunderstandings or heated situations was obliterated by certain members of the 17th a good give minutes after the first time their pilot shot me down......As Eran himself ranted and raved at me and went straight to Galnet and communicated his contempt for Heretics.... He hasnt managed to stop since and continues to berate and push us into the position we are in now...
You dont keep teasing a dog to the point of being vicious and then expect to walk up and pat it on the head afterwards..... You will be lucky to walk away with your hand...
A man with any common sense at all would have stopped pushing quite some time ago.... You are all turning yourselves into targets and still fluffing up with indignation when you get shot at..
Again, thank you Nano J...... This communication from you has been duly noted....
** Nemo Me Impune Lacessit ** |
Maarrg Blood
Minmatar Minmatar Special Ops. Group
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Posted - 2008.10.15 15:43:00 -
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Quality. Once again Yen you show that you have no clue what you are talking about. Always good for a laugh.
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Cupdeez
Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.10.15 18:18:00 -
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These posts are to long... Skip Skip Skip Skip.
Ok out of 3 pages I think i read about 5 posts.
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CueBee
Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.10.15 18:18:00 -
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If this is what Faction/RP stuff is like, I am glad to have stayed away from it. Amazing how one little corp thief leads to three pages of random whining about stuff that had nothing to actually do with the theft. You guys are stellar. Stay in low sec, it needs you.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.10.15 19:27:00 -
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Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 15/10/2008 19:32:56
Originally by: Poreuomai
Originally by: Megan Maynard FYI, if you are a competent pilot, and see the name Telemicus Thrace in fleet, leave it post haste, he's a dip shit. (Something I don't have to bite my tongue about anymore.)
Megan do you really think ANYONE will still trust YOUR advice now?
Thanks for the laughs, I really needed it today.
Yendaj, advice from a diplomat who still believes you meant it when you called her friend: take a deep breath, step back, and calm down. I believe you are peeved, but you are overreacting, making a fool out of yourself, and casting a bad light on the Heretics.
Else
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Mantis701
Minmatar Tribal Core
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Posted - 2008.10.15 21:07:00 -
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Yendaj, you do not know me and I do not know you personally, but I've been in the Minmatar milita since FW started back in June. I have flown in fleets with you several times, including that POS kill in Tzvi. I have flown in countless fleets with the Heretics. MirrorGod, Smog, and 2Bad4UX2 and all the other Heretics I have great respect for. I'm thankful for what they have done for me and the militia. It's obvious that you are great leader and have some of the finest pilots in your corp. That being said, after reading all these long posts in several threads that you have made in the forums, all that I have learned about you is bad. This is what I have taken from your posts without quoting everything you have said, because that would take hours...
1. You love attention 2. You're sexist 3. You're a hypocrite 4. You're INCREDIBLY, INCREDIBLY arrogant 5. Seriously, can your ego and you fit in the same room?
I'd like you to prove me wrong on your personality and I'm sure you don't give a rat's ass about my opinion, but your ranting and raving is making a lot of people roll their eyes. You are casting the Heretics in a really bad light with your bad attitude and your foul mouth. I think you need to step away from Eve for a couple days, go out to the bar, have 2 or 3 beers, and CALM THE **** DOWN! After that, you can come back and have a civil discussion with a level head and then maybe people will take what you have to say seriously. Later.
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Neu Bastian
Minmatar Valklear Guard
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Posted - 2008.10.15 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Yendaj then we have the CEO denying this ever happened....
I denied what exactly, Yendaj?
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Neu Bastian Valklear Guard - CEO
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CCP Mitnal
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Posted - 2008.10.15 23:58:00 -
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Cleaned.
Please remember all posts in this communication channel are meant to be in character.
This has not been the case and any subsequent violations will see sanctions levied against them.
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Salinas Montif
Caldari Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.10.16 00:02:00 -
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Personally I give Meg 10 points for style. It is one thing to rob a corp wallet or take from a hanger. That is droll. But to **** the corp wallet, clean out everything, steal a controling block of shares to vote herself as CEO, then set the corp tax rate to 100%......now THAT is priceless. No half measures or guilt trips. no long postings about how she justifies her actions cause of blah blah blah... Just clean 'em out and leave an ambiguous response that keeps people guessing for 3 pages of a thread. [url=http://theo3.org/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=33691] [/url] |
Neu Bastian
Minmatar Valklear Guard
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Posted - 2008.10.16 01:19:00 -
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Originally by: Salinas Montif Personally I give Meg 10 points for style... Just clean 'em out and leave an ambiguous response that keeps people guessing for 3 pages of a thread.
Stylish? I'd say opportunist. And no one is guessing anything, we know how she did it and its has been amended. Why, justified or not, is irrelevant. And the 3 pages? well, most don't even have anything to do with Megan, other diplomatic issues have leaked into this thread, and regrettably so. I'm not even bothering on getting the corp out of our way to get revenge, our focus is where it should be, the war. Thanks to friends and allies, the new corp is back on its feet, the reimbursement fund is strong, hell, she even left a Large Republic Fleet Smartbomb laying around. You like the girl? keep her. We don't need traitors in our ranks, and if you noticed even some of our enemies have taken a dislike for her, and all for what? a bil, bill and a half? heh, enjoy it, it'll be gone soon.
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