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Smog890 Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.10.19 05:42:00 - [31] Sweden lady is my alt/second character 2008.10.18 07:23:13 ] Sweden lady > so i've been thinkin [ 2008.10.18 07:23:23 ] Sweden lady > maybe i can use u to advantage [ 2008.10.18 07:23:33 ] asdf > o? [ 2008.10.18 07:23:36 ] Sweden lady > run a few sucided fleets into youre fleet [ 2008.10.18 07:23:40 ] Sweden lady > give me the loot [ 2008.10.18 07:23:48 ] Sweden lady > and u keep whatever to cover ur loses [ 2008.10.18 07:23:54 ] Sweden lady > :) [ 2008.10.18 07:24:01 ] asdf > lol I like it [ 2008.10.18 07:24:01 ] Sweden lady > we both make isk in the end ;) [ 2008.10.18 07:24:06 ] Sweden lady > nice [ 2008.10.18 07:24:25 ] Sweden lady > do that like once a week [ 2008.10.18 07:24:29 ] Sweden lady > so i can make some isk [ 2008.10.18 07:24:36 ] Sweden lady > they never give me the fking loot when i fc [ 2008.10.18 07:24:46 ] asdf > aight [ 2008.10.18 07:24:48 ] Sweden lady > so i'll do this to get loot to make some isk for running there fleets [ 2008.10.18 07:24:50 ] Sweden lady > :) [ 2008.10.18 07:24:52 ]asdf> we'll hold field and loot properly [ 2008.10.18 07:25:12 ] Sweden lady > cool cool [ 2008.10.18 07:25:16 ] Sweden lady > lets try it tomarrow [ 2008.10.18 07:25:23 ] Sweden lady > i will be on do a fleet or so [ 2008.10.18 07:25:29 ] Sweden lady > around my regular time [ 2008.10.18 07:25:38 ] Sweden lady > i'll com ein thorax [ 2008.10.18 07:25:43 ] Sweden lady > u can kill me to make it look good lol [ 2008.10.18 07:28:15 ] Sweden lady > well go from what i get in fleet etc and what u have to do this tomarrow [ 2008.10.18 07:28:24 ] Sweden lady > get in touch with me when ur on and ready [ 2008.10.18 07:28:31 ] Sweden lady > going to log in a bit
Smog890 Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.10.19 05:43:00 - [32] Edited by: Smog890 on 19/10/2008 05:43:11 Yeah, so now all can see the truth and not hear of Mirror and Yens lies about helping minmatar and having a change of heart for us How you like that Mirror and Yen the truth has now come out with the chat logs... OH SNAP
Smog890 Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.10.19 05:45:00 - [33] Originally by: MirrorGod Originally by: Smog890 And fk it if Minmatar dont want me I'll go Amarr or Caldary Yes indeed. I'm playing the game, I'll go and do what I want, I'm here for Minmatar now but maybe in a year I leave maybe 4 years or maybe 6 months, I'm doing this game my way, so love it or hate me.
Smog890 Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.10.19 05:50:00 - [34] Edited by: Smog890 on 19/10/2008 05:50:39 anyways if you read the chat logs, everything I said was bullshit, I had 60+ in fleet not 20 or 30 lol. I was just sitting for an hour and a half until we could engage and kill being calmn and waiting for the kill works remember that
emf Amarr Knights Of the Black Sun	Posted - 2008.10.19 06:17:00 - [35] Edited by: emf on 19/10/2008 06:17:27 Looked like an awesome fight from the KB, damn ****ed I missed it. That's some funny spin from Yendaj... But the funniest is still this abaddon with a severe identity crisis. He thinks he's a blackbird/absolution/abaddon... http://www.minmatar-militia.org/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8240 You guys need to pick better allies.
Marcos Dirritu Minmatar Fearless Scouts	Posted - 2008.10.19 09:11:00 - [36] Edited by: Marcos Dirritu on 19/10/2008 09:13:35 Just to make this a bit more clear: When Heretics left the Minmatar Militia, they didn't do it by stating "ok guys, was fun with you, we'll go back pirating, thanks for the fish, have a nice day." MirrorGod and the Heretics were adored by the Militia members. But what did they do? Negotiated blues with a bunch of militia corps. Dropped those blues after a single announcement on a shared intel channel - if you missed that, tough luck, suddenly blues were shooting you. They made their Militia corporation (also showing blue/violet to other militias) shoot other Militia members. They stated publically multiple times that the Minmatar Militia sucks, that Heretics will shoot them now, that Heretics are now allies of the Amarr, etc. In the new campaign "Everyone Dies" in Heimatar and The Bleak Lands, of the 310 kills, 225 (72%) were in Heimatar. Obviously, the Heretics were all about helping the Minmatar. Every Minmatar ship they shot down at the supply lines in Amamake probably hurt them more than it hurt the ship owner. Now, they try to use an FC in the militia to lead a Minmatar Militia fleet into a trap and to kill them - again, backstabbing people in the militia. It turns out that they were not trapping, but got into a trap. Now, Ms. Yendaj is crying how rude this is, and the Heretics claim how they were not really going after the Minmatar so far, but now they are mad and will. MirrorGod, love does make blind. Good luck. You still have my respect.
Yendaj Minmatar Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.10.19 09:13:00 - [37] What is really sad Smog, is that its obvious to anyone that has ever spoken to Mirrorgod that those chat logs are fake.. The spelling in them is horrific, definitely not him He doesnt communicate anything like that and everyone knows it It looks like you are having a conversation with yourself, due to the poor spelling and sentence construction Stop trying to drag yourself out of the hole you put yourself in, you are making a fool of yourself... You burned all your bridges and proved to both sides that you cannot be trusted no matter what accept you did this to yourself and move on.... isolation comes to those who seek it ** Nemo Me Impune Lacessit **
Yendaj Minmatar Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.10.19 09:17:00 - [38] Originally by: Marcos Dirritu Edited by: Marcos Dirritu on 19/10/2008 09:13:35 Just to make this a bit more clear: When Heretics left the Minmatar Militia, they didn't do it by stating "ok guys, was fun with you, we'll go back pirating, thanks for the fish, have a nice day." MirrorGod and the Heretics were adored by the Militia members. But what did they do? Negotiated blues with a bunch of militia corps. Dropped those blues after a single announcement on a shared intel channel - if you missed that, tough luck, suddenly blues were shooting you. They made their Militia corporation (also showing blue/violet to other militias) shoot other Militia members. They stated publically multiple times that the Minmatar Militia sucks, that Heretics will shoot them now, that Heretics are now allies of the Amarr, etc. In the new campaign "Everyone Dies" in Heimatar and The Bleak Lands, of the 310 kills, 225 (72%) were in Heimatar. Obviously, the Heretics were all about helping the Minmatar. Every Minmatar ship they shot down at the supply lines in Amamake probably hurt them more than it hurt the ship owner. Now, they try to use an FC in the militia to lead a Minmatar Militia fleet into a trap and to kill them - again, backstabbing people in the militia. It turns out that they were not trapping, but got into a trap. Now, Ms. Yendaj is crying how rude this is, and the Heretics claim how they were not really going after the Minmatar so far, but now they are mad and will. MirrorGod, love does make blind. Good luck. You still have my respect. Seems to me you are on a personal witch hunt there my dear whats the matter? did i turn you down at some stage???? You just keep repeating your waffle over and over again and each time you twist to suit yourself Even Neu Bastian has more common sense and is capable of a decent conversation I do apologise if I turned your advances down, but quite frankly, I can see why You arent much of a man in my opinion I prefer mine with a little more backbone ** Nemo Me Impune Lacessit **
Marcos Dirritu Minmatar Fearless Scouts	Posted - 2008.10.19 09:40:00 - [39] Originally by: Yendaj Seems to me you are on a personal witch hunt there my dear Oh, I am. You backstabbed my people. I'm just here to make sure this is not forgotten, regardless how often you repeat your lies.
Yendaj Minmatar Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.10.19 10:03:00 - [40] Originally by: Marcos Dirritu Originally by: Yendaj Seems to me you are on a personal witch hunt there my dear Oh, I am. You backstabbed my people. I'm just here to make sure this is not forgotten, regardless how often you repeat your lies. Who are you exactly? Besides a Galnet warrior or no account.. You cant possibly have any idea what you are talking about, theres not one single record of combat from you anywhere You spew forth your propaganda and war mongering, with absolutely no involvement whatsoever in what happened between the Minmatar corps and Heretics If you did you would know that the Minmatar corps retracted the blues themselves before I even got a chance I recieved 5 personal communications retracting blues There was no heretic betrayal little man.... It was decided before I ever fired a single shot at a Minmatar pilot Infact, the first shots fired by Minmatar were on me... Long before I went below concord levels of decency and regained my pirate status of -10 If you can find a single battle record of me firing on a Minmatar pilot before the 17th Minmatar tactical wing pilot shot me that day, I will hang up my capsuleer license.. There has just been a bunch of hype and drama and gossip within Minmatar because its always been their way to infight and carry on like hard done by slaves.. You on the other hand, I never seen you in a combat ship out on the field, and ofcourse, galnet warriors like you dont bother undocking for anything hard You like to be the mouthpiece for stupidity and drama Theres another one like you in Minmatar, Maarg Blood, credit to Maarg though, atleast she undocks and fights Who are you again? I keep forgetting as I get futher into this communication.. Oh yes, small little man of no account who keeps clamming up the comms with incessant waffle.. Close them now little one, go sign up for battle and make fierce warrior on us out of revenge, instead of talking shit on comms all day.. ** Nemo Me Impune Lacessit **

Keyanu Mortis Angelus The Church.	Posted - 2008.10.19 10:41:00 - [41] I see you're still bumming Tanaka lol You still suck
Marcos Dirritu Minmatar Fearless Scouts	Posted - 2008.10.19 11:04:00 - [42] Originally by: Yendaj If you can find a single battle record of me firing on a Minmatar pilot before the 17th Minmatar tactical wing pilot shot me that day, I will hang up my capsuleer license.. http://killboard.heretic-nation.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3618 Were you talking about biomassing, or just permanent planetside vacation? Now mind you, I'm not holding that kill against you (and I seriously doubt you keep your word). I'm actually pretty sure that that was some kind of loot thief or some other idiot. All militias are full of them. I'm holding against you that you retracted blues with a number of corps without telling them. I'm also holding against you that you lie about your actions here all the time, and don't even have the spine to stand up to what you actually did. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=895628&page=3#76 has a good summary of the events from the 17th's and the Militia's point of view, no need to repeat them here.
Nano J	Posted - 2008.10.19 11:37:00 - [43] as a victim of backstabbing also (former member of the 17th), i can't say i wholly trust smog. however, i must say that his claimed intentions were much more acceptable than that of the heretics. you can't tell us that we have have a worthy cause and than camp minmatar highsec for days at a time without looking like an hypocrite. at least smog fought for what he supported. you get ****ed that a lot of us jumped at the idea to attack you, are you so surprised? i have a lot of respect for the FCs in the heretics, but you can't expect us not to fight back when you decide not to side with us anymore, regardless of who's leading the fleet or their personal agenda. i'm still a supporter of a NAP between the more concrete militia corps and the heretics. i think the minmatar were strongest with their help. however, the rogue militia members have every right to want to attack them because the heretics have been camping amamake since they left FW. after all the anti-establishment talk of the heretics, how can we possibly believe that MG wasn't going to turn on the minmatar after all the amarr were gone? and is it really so hard to blame a backstabber when you're a pirate?
Revan Neferis Amarr The Archaeus of Blood	Posted - 2008.10.19 12:06:00 - [44] CAOD ...every fire needs a little bit help
Yendaj Minmatar Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.10.19 12:07:00 - [45] Edited by: Yendaj on 19/10/2008 12:15:07 Originally by: Marcos Dirritu Originally by: Yendaj If you can find a single battle record of me firing on a Minmatar pilot before the 17th Minmatar tactical wing pilot shot me that day, I will hang up my capsuleer license.. http://killboard.heretic-nation.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3618 Were you talking about biomassing, or just permanent planetside vacation? Now mind you, I'm not holding that kill against you (and I seriously doubt you keep your word). I'm actually pretty sure that that was some kind of loot thief or some other idiot. All militias are full of them. I'm holding against you that you retracted blues with a number of corps without telling them. I'm also holding against you that you lie about your actions here all the time, and don't even have the spine to stand up to what you actually did. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=895628&page=3#76 has a good summary of the events from the 17th's and the Militia's point of view, no need to repeat them here. Wow you are scraping the bottom of the barrel check the date on that kill mail you moron that was a situation where the moron attacked Mirrorgod as FC in a Minmatar fleet and he was duely ganked back again Seriously now, come up with something up to date and relevant, instead of trying to pick something from the beginning of faction war..... that kill mail is four months old for crying out loud.... Mirrorgod was shot by Minmatar on a daily basis as he was fc'ing because they are incapable of setting their overviews correctly If you want to actually provide anything concrete and factual, come back to me with it You attempting to prove your point any way you can is becoming quite ridiculous as you scramble for solid ground. Find a kill mail with me out of Minmatar Militia and actually in Heretic Army, where I shot down a Minmatar militia pilot before the day that Vitak shot me down, I double dare you..... You now cross the line of being pathetic into sheer stupidity.... edit: as for your previous posting eran, that little report is your view only and because you were more than irrational yourself, you are being a hypocrite....Personal communications with Neu seems to differ from your version all the time (start posting with your main again) ** Nemo Me Impune Lacessit **
Mah Kraah Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.10.19 12:16:00 - [46] can i have a confirmation from a informed party if smog890 is still commanding minmatar militia forces? the minmatar militia is beeing played , played by dishonourable individuals. i dont know if it is for amarr pupetmasters or if they are plain evil and insane. what they are for sure is a dishonour for the whole minmatar race. this does not only count for that smog890 subject. if u can no longer build on one mans word u can no longer call him a minmatar, this was the foundation of our society and i was proud of it. do not blindly follow follow the ethics of your elders and tribe act on your word dont place yourself above your tribe accept the consequences of your acts to die is better than to bring dishonour on your kin u all know the rules your elders teached u , they are the base of our survival over the millenias. stop throwing them away
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.10.19 12:51:00 - [47] Originally by: Revan Neferis CAOD This. \o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/ >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.10.19 13:17:00 - [48] Originally by: Verone Originally by: Revan Neferis CAOD This. I find myself in agreement with Revan Neferis and Ethan Verone in one single post. The universe will surely end tomorrow. -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today.
Reptar Dragon THE FINAL STAND	Posted - 2008.10.19 14:58:00 - [49] Edited by: Reptar Dragon on 19/10/2008 14:59:36 Smog you can play the game of politic with yendaj/heretic all you want, but you chose the wrong group of people to execute your plan on. You're just a new nuisance. Enjoy your 5 minutes. And yea, what Verone and Revan said is true. Post it in CAOD so you can get trolled by non-RPers, maybe you'll find no one cares.
Xailz Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.10.19 15:40:00 - [50] Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Originally by: Verone Originally by: Revan Neferis CAOD This. I find myself in agreement with Revan Neferis and Ethan Verone in one single post. The universe will surely end tomorrow. This pushes 'Post reply' with eyes closed Furthermore, this is actually apart of my signature ------

MirrorGod Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.10.19 16:15:00 - [51] ((I've got little to say at this point. I'll be honest, the only reason I made a post initially was that as I went about this after the fight in Kourmonen local, more than one that happened to be reading noted we really should forum it as it was interesting stuff--In all fairness, smog was busy being ejected from heretics and thus not in local, so it was pretty smack-free, with the more anti-pirate types from minnie militia being the closest thing while in character. So, I made my post, even though I knew inevitably smog would find his way here and continue to make an arse of himself. Appologies to the summit for him, honestly I'm glad he's out from under our banner; he's good at primary calling, fails at internets. Heretics continues to tone our ranks up as we traverse from the forgiving world of milita pvp back to the sentries-hate-you world of Piracy. I'll be discusing with some militia leaders today, honestly I hope a dec on smog's corp rather than a jihad-against-minnies will suffice, but it's quite down to minnie's leaders at this point. I've played my piece, little more I need to say as this has degenerated into triple-smog-posts, hope you enjoyed it while it lasted )) Save Small Gang Warfare
Millennium Queen	Posted - 2008.10.19 16:56:00 - [52] Congratulations General Smog890 of the Republic, well done. Never forget a good Leader protects the trust of those who follow you. Mirrorgod will think twice to try to corrupt another Leader of the Republic.
Smog890 Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun	Posted - 2008.10.19 18:38:00 - [53] Edited by: Smog890 on 19/10/2008 18:38:44 Originally by: Yendaj What is really sad Smog, is that its obvious to anyone that has ever spoken to Mirrorgod that those chat logs are fake.. The spelling in them is horrific, definitely not him He doesnt communicate anything like that and everyone knows it It looks like you are having a conversation with yourself, due to the poor spelling and sentence construction Stop trying to drag yourself out of the hole you put yourself in, you are making a fool of yourself... You burned all your bridges and proved to both sides that you cannot be trusted no matter what accept you did this to yourself and move on.... isolation comes to those who seek it LOL, ok YEN, I will screen shot my folder with the chat logs that are stored by EVE, and you will be able to see the modification date and that they where created at the exact time in EVE when this was going down. Let me do ths now: Photo 1 Photo 2 Photo 3 Photo 4 Photo 5 Oh Snap yen, did I just catch you in another lie and prove you wrong with more proof that you are lying?
BloodBird Gallente Tactical Freedom Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.19 18:43:00 - [54] Originally by: Revan Neferis CAOD ((Was about to post something like this myself, thanks you so much Revan.)) Sig source
Smog890 Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun	Posted - 2008.10.19 18:54:00 - [55] oh and got your corpse mirror, going to have fun with that.
Ophey Won	Posted - 2008.10.19 19:04:00 - [56] Smog all you have shown is that you are untrustworthy. I looked at your chat log with MirrorGod. From everything I read it sound like MirrorGod was holding to his word until you attacked him. 2008.10.18 21:11:50 is when MirrorGodÆs ship was blown up. Funny how that is the point when MirrorGod turned his anger on to the Minmatar and you. I am sure you will find new people to trust you until you screw them over too. Its your history. Its you method of operations.
Smog890 Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun	Posted - 2008.10.19 19:09:00 - [57] Edited by: Smog890 on 19/10/2008 19:11:39 Originally by: Ophey Won Smog all you have shown is that you are untrustworthy. I looked at your chat log with MirrorGod. From everything I read it sound like MirrorGod was holding to his word until you attacked him. 2008.10.18 21:11:50 is when MirrorGodÆs ship was blown up. Funny how that is the point when MirrorGod turned his anger on to the Minmatar and you. I am sure you will find new people to trust you until you screw them over too. Its your history. Its you method of operations. Duh he was holding his word, but I was setting him up in a trap thats why I did not hold my word. Thats the point of backstabbing they dont know its comming. And you already turned your anger onto Minmatar will killing them before this ever happend, I screwed first corp over because they screwed a guy in corp over really bad, I screwed Heretics because they screwed Minmatar over, to me its all justified. You got what was comming and I will get whats comming in due time. Alos i'm already the Director of my new corporation that I'm in thanks emf, someone trust me
Yendaj Minmatar Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.10.19 19:16:00 - [58] Originally by: Smog890 Edited by: Smog890 on 19/10/2008 18:38:44 Originally by: Yendaj What is really sad Smog, is that its obvious to anyone that has ever spoken to Mirrorgod that those chat logs are fake.. The spelling in them is horrific, definitely not him He doesnt communicate anything like that and everyone knows it It looks like you are having a conversation with yourself, due to the poor spelling and sentence construction Stop trying to drag yourself out of the hole you put yourself in, you are making a fool of yourself... You burned all your bridges and proved to both sides that you cannot be trusted no matter what accept you did this to yourself and move on.... isolation comes to those who seek it LOL, ok YEN, I will screen shot my folder with the chat logs that are stored by EVE, and you will be able to see the modification date and that they where created at the exact time in EVE when this was going down. Let me do ths now: Photo 1 Photo 2 Photo 3 Photo 4 Photo 5 Oh Snap yen, did I just catch you in another lie and prove you wrong with more proof that you are lying? (ok, one last time because we all realise you are stupid..No one is doubting you spoke to each other smog..not in dispute....The faked up chat logs however.... I could open a chat log from you and I talking right now, its notepad after all, change all the sentences and screenshot, voila....go pull your shit somewhere else and get out of IGS) ** Nemo Me Impune Lacessit **
Yendaj Minmatar Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.10.19 19:19:00 - [59] Originally by: Smog890 Edited by: Smog890 on 19/10/2008 19:11:39 Originally by: Ophey Won Smog all you have shown is that you are untrustworthy. I looked at your chat log with MirrorGod. From everything I read it sound like MirrorGod was holding to his word until you attacked him. 2008.10.18 21:11:50 is when MirrorGodÆs ship was blown up. Funny how that is the point when MirrorGod turned his anger on to the Minmatar and you. I am sure you will find new people to trust you until you screw them over too. Its your history. Its you method of operations. Duh he was holding his word, but I was setting him up in a trap thats why I did not hold my word. Thats the point of backstabbing they dont know its comming. And you already turned your anger onto Minmatar will killing them before this ever happend, I screwed first corp over because they screwed a guy in corp over really bad, I screwed Heretics because they screwed Minmatar over, to me its all justified. You got what was comming and I will get whats comming in due time. Alos i'm already the Director of my new corporation that I'm in thanks emf, someone trust me chuckles to herself Dear Amarrian Gods, Please let EMF show Smog his shiney Revelation Please please please I knew you went to the right place Smog! ** Nemo Me Impune Lacessit **
Smog890 Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun	Posted - 2008.10.19 19:47:00 - [60] Originally by: Yendaj (ok, one last time because we all realise you are stupid..No one is doubting you spoke to each other smog..not in dispute....The faked up chat logs however.... I could open a chat log from you and I talking right now, its notepad after all, change all the sentences and screenshot, voila....go pull your shit somewhere else and get out of IGS) Yen, your opening up your mouth like i'm opening up notepad but only your notepad contains lies and mine contains the truth.



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