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Cyonix Maur
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Posted - 2008.10.20 15:00:00 -
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are they worth the price they are selling for? in amarr they are selling for between 37.5mill and 65mill i had intented to get some untill i saw the price..
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Tinker1947
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Posted - 2008.10.20 15:16:00 -
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Dunno about there worth or not, but where do they come from, No BPO to make them from..???
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Zombiefly
The Nimax Family
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Posted - 2008.10.20 15:19:00 -
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Edited by: Zombiefly on 20/10/2008 15:19:39
It really depends. If you are a "hardcore" miner then you would get them. The amount they mine is very, very good, but only if you are right on the roids you are mining. The drones move so slow that if you warp to a roid at 10km away then you are better off getting T2 Mining Drones.
So to make this post as clear as possible..
Humping the roid = Harvestor Mining Drones
Relaxed, far away = T2 Mining Drones
Edit: To answer the question above, they are rare drops. From where? I forget
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Braaage
Ministry of Craft
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Posted - 2008.10.20 15:25:00 -
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Read this thread which has all the info about where harvesters came from.
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Tinker1947
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Posted - 2008.10.20 15:29:00 -
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Sorted, ty
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Cyonix Maur
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Posted - 2008.10.20 16:27:00 -
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well when i start mining i start at one end of the belt and move around it untill its completly gone so i would be more or less on top of the roids. atm im traing up the T2 miners, it is a lot of isk if some rat ahppens to pop one.
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MailDeadDrop
Archon Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.20 16:31:00 -
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Nobody in their right mind should use them while mining. They just scream "GANK ME!", as the drones are 100% guaranteed to drop. 125M in loot right there.
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Pater Deus
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Posted - 2008.10.20 16:47:00 -
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 Originally by: Cyonix Maur
are they worth the price they are selling for? in amarr they are selling for between 37.5mill and 65mill i had intented to get some untill i saw the price..
If we talk about Mining Drone II (meta lvl 5), 37 million, 65 million? nope, search for a better price. If you meant 37, 65 thousand isk, those are average prices.
Now...
To be more or less worth drone mining you need a group of 5 mining drones.
The skills you`ll need are Drones V to operate 5 drones at a given time and Mining Drone Operation V to get the 5% xtra yield from each.
Drone mining means you must be very close to the mineral rock because drones travel very slowly. Drone mining a rock 3 kms away takes much longer than one 500 meters away. Less than 2 kms. is ok.
Also don`t get fooled by the name "Harvester Drone", they are very slow at 250 kms. Mining drones II are the ones (500kms) to use.
Rats love to kill mining drones first upon arrival and they die very easily with only one armor hitpoints and no shield! Light Scouts have 120 hitpoints and 40 HP Shield, so even in the highest systems you`ll have to pay attention to rats.
Mining drones compare to light scouts in size, 5 M3, but not in speed as mining T2 ones travel at 500 kms max and scouts faster than 3,000.
What is wrong with mining drone designers brain?
I wonder why in an interstellar society like EVE, that depends so much in mining, drones for this job are so small and the skills to work with more than 5 drones is nonexistent. There are miners who would gladly go thru Advanced Drone Interfacing to be able to use a Mining Drone Control Unit for Hulks.
We need Mining Drone Upgrades to get the most out our drone mining op.
Last but not least, when you see the title EVE gives to mining drones in the item database, well <sigh> it`s all very clear: "The miner's little helpers" instead of "Miners great helpers"+
Yeah, at the end of the mining session mining T2 drones do contribute to have more ore inside the can, naturally, but their yield is so poor compared to crystals and their speed inhibits long range mining and ... <sigh> give them a try.
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Lustralis
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Posted - 2008.10.20 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: Lustralis on 20/10/2008 17:22:05
Originally by: Tinker1947
Dunno about there worth or not, but where do they come from, No BPO to make them from..???
There was a time waaaay back when Eve had just started when they introduced loot drops from NPC traders. Some of these loot drops were like 400 harvesters (yea, fu-bar). Some people managed to grab a whole heap of them in those few heady weeks. Obviously they were worth quite a lot even back then (not as much as they are now trading for though), because mining was pretty much how you made ISK. If people have held onto them for nearly 5 years and are now selling them for 60m each, I'd say they were pretty shrewd investors!
edit: sorry Braaage I missed your link.
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Cyonix Maur
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Posted - 2008.10.20 17:43:00 -
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i already have my T2 drones drone interfacing to 3 or 4 cant remember now but i seriously think they are not woth it ill get my T2 mining drones in a few days and ill stick with them. 5 of them and 5 T2 hobgoblins. that will do teh job.
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Aesynil
Caldari
The Unit...
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Posted - 2008.10.20 19:08:00 -
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I know can flippers who would gladly...-gladly- suicide gank a miner for a crack at a guaranteed 100+ million isk. If somebody sees them, you immediately become a target. I'd say go t2, definitely.
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Cyonix Maur
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Posted - 2008.10.20 19:42:00 -
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yah i dont think they are worth the isk thats a lot of isk to loose because of some fancy drones
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Doppleganger
Minmatar
Libera Mentem Tuam
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Posted - 2008.10.21 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Lustralis
Edited by: Lustralis on 20/10/2008 17:22:05
Originally by: Tinker1947
Dunno about there worth or not, but where do they come from, No BPO to make them from..???
There was a time waaaay back when Eve had just started when they introduced loot drops from NPC traders. Some of these loot drops were like 400 harvesters (yea, fu-bar). Some people managed to grab a whole heap of them in those few heady weeks. Obviously they were worth quite a lot even back then (not as much as they are now trading for though), because mining was pretty much how you made ISK. If people have held onto them for nearly 5 years and are now selling them for 60m each, I'd say they were pretty shrewd investors!
edit: sorry Braaage I missed your link.
Actually back then they sold for around 15k - 25k that was back when you could use up to 10 drones at a time as well. If you want to pay that much I think I still have 8 of them left over from back then. 
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Joss Sparq
Caldari
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.21 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Aesynil
I know can flippers who would gladly...-gladly- suicide gank a miner for a crack at a guaranteed 100+ million isk. If somebody sees them, you immediately become a target. I'd say go t2, definitely.
That - or if they feel like it, they could just as easily launch a suicide attack on the drones themselves - because they can!
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Cyonix Maur
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Posted - 2008.10.22 00:37:00 -
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im gona stcik with the T2 miners i recon cheaper and safer :)
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Pater Deus
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Posted - 2008.10.22 13:33:00 -
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I have fairly good mining skills, including Mining Drone Operation which grants me 5% yield bonus & access to use T2 Mining Drones.
Usually I`d go to a belt and bump into a group of rocks in order to use the drones from a short distance and they unload their cargo in the open can of the moment.
A couple of days ago and due to this thread, I unleashed the drones and assigned a can for them alone to fill in order to see their "real" output because their performance can`t be appreciated otherwise.
They filled the 27,500M3 can in about 1hr50m, which is not bad for me because that is the time I spend mining before hauling.
Just keep them in under 1,500 mts or so distance because they are verrry slow.
I don`t know if having a Mining Foreman or Director will improve their yield.
Also, drones don`t ice, but I read somewhere else they do low sec rocks.
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destiny2
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Posted - 2008.10.24 01:48:00 -
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Once you get a T2 ore vessel or a mineing barge you wont need harvester drones |
spud maur
Gallente
IBF2
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Posted - 2008.10.24 13:03:00 -
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i didnt think a can lasted that long in space? i also dint know u could have them drop ore in to there own can. i must try this altough i still only have T 1 drones fecking 10 days for the T2 ones was hoping for less on that but meh such is teh life of EVE, |
Cyonix Maur
Caldari
IBF2
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Posted - 2008.10.24 13:08:00 -
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opps i posted with my alt.
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Pater Deus
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Posted - 2008.10.24 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: spud maur
i didnt think a can lasted that long in space? i also dint know u could have them drop ore in to there own can. i must try this altough i still only have T 1 drones fecking 10 days for the T2 ones was hoping for less on that but meh such is teh life of EVE,
Drones cannot deliver into their own can.
What I did was to mine Scordite with them and other rocks with lasers, so when drones delivered into the cargohold I manually transfered to a can. I did it in order to know practically how mucho ore 5 T2 drones can mine in a 2 hour lapse.
Sorry if I gave a wrong idea.
Cans last for 2 hours in space, the time between jetcans is about 20 minutes. With lvl 5 mining skills you can mine nearly 6 in two hours by yourself (no Mining gang).
A can will begin to deteriorate the instant you jettison it to space. Most miners mark jetcans with the time of jettison. You can have more than six cans but that means taking the first ones into the cargohold and re-jettisoning them.
Drone Mining skills:
Drones - one drone per skill lvl
Drone Interfacing - 20% yield bonus
Drone Navigation - increases drone max. velocity
Mining Drone Operation - 5% more yield p/lvl
Other drone skills benefit (I presume) mining drones:
Durability - 5% more armor, shield & hull
Sharpshooting - range
Optionals:
Drone Rigging
EVEMon mentions a skill not available named Mining Drone Specialization available after Mining Drone Operation lvl V.
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Cyonix Maur
Caldari
IBF2
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Posted - 2008.10.24 20:34:00 -
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ah well bugger but none the less a good idea.
my drone skill on this char aint to bad but could be better, im working on getting all my crystals to lvl V atm almost done on Pyroxers then have 11 days for Kernite.. then Refining Efficiency V or ill do it the other way around not sure on that yet :)
as for my drone skills
Drones V
Scout Drone operation V
mining Drone iv
drone interfacing III
Amarr/Gallente specialization II
could be a bit better but i hadnt intended to use mining drones, my T2 hobgoblins do me for 0.5 rats, i tried out 0.4 once and got bit in the ass by 2 Nyx. |
Mika Meroko
Minmatar
Crayon Posting Inc
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Posted - 2008.10.24 23:04:00 -
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hell, people can grief you with a frigate XD...
just pop your paper thin, very expensive harvester drones XD |
Red lensman
Gallente
BlackSky inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.25 14:49:00 -
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Edited by: Red lensman on 25/10/2008 14:50:40
The only place it's worth using Harvester mining drones if with ore of 8-16m3 volume as you can fit slightly more ore per cycle with them and any where you find those ores should be secure 0.0 and i've still got a vexor somewhere with 15 harvesters in it's drone bay :) as was collecting them for a moros when it could fly 35 drones :)
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