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Mankirks Wife	Posted - 2008.10.22 02:18:00 - [1] Seems how nobody has started a thread here yet I figured I'd take the initiative. Don't really know much - their website is here, but it's all flash and my crummy satellite connection chokes on it. Bioware has made some great games in the past but they're owned by EA now, so I'm sure they'll find some way to **** it up. I know there's a lot of SWG refugees around here, but I somehow doubt it'll be the same kind of game. ---
Anneka Tong B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm	Posted - 2008.10.22 02:51:00 - [2] Hmm, interesting. Not a great deal of information on the site. Suppose though, that there being lots of lightsabre waving people around is fairly plausible in that setting. Wonder if black clothes and red sabre is going to be the popular choice? I like genetic engineering Past projects: The Radioactive Sheep Current project: CyberCow
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Umbra Synergy	Posted - 2008.10.22 03:07:00 - [3] sales for bioware games have been DECLINING since baldurs gate, lets face it, one hit wonders running out of steam why else would they hit such a financial pitfall that they had to sell themselves out to one of the giants? Because they aren't making money any more Applebabe ate my signature :( but the fish hat forgives! Nemotology is the EvE religion of choice!
Zyck KDS Navy	Posted - 2008.10.22 03:58:00 - [4] Originally by: Tortun Nahme sales for bioware games have been DECLINING since baldurs gate, lets face it, one hit wonders running out of steam I'm really fascinated how you get one-hit wonder out of Baldur's Gate 1&2, KOTOR, Jade Empire, and Mass Effect. -Zyck
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Umbra Synergy	Posted - 2008.10.22 04:09:00 - [5] sales were so bad for mass effect that they HAD to port it to pc after declaring straight from the start they wouldn't, and it was so epic fail on pc that we aren't even going there sales for kotor were underwhelming compared to BG 1+2 and nwn, the sales for jade empire fell even farther short of kotor a downward trend that resulsts in a company needing to be bailed out TWICE (once by a merger with pandemic and finally selling out to EA) really doesn't need any more explanation than the solid numbers Applebabe ate my signature :( but the fish hat forgives! Nemotology is the EvE religion of choice!
Mankirks Wife	Posted - 2008.10.22 04:19:00 - [6] Originally by: Tortun Nahme sales were so bad for mass effect that they HAD to port it to pc after declaring straight from the start they wouldn't, and it was so epic fail on pc that we aren't even going there I thought about buying Mass Effect, console port and all, but after one SecureROM nightmare, I refuse to buy anything that uses it, no matter how good it supposedly is. So far STEAM is the only DRM scheme I can really get onboard with, and only because your games are tied to your account, not to your computer. Why EA sticks with a scheme that is arguably costing it a lot of sales is beyond me. But then again it's EA - they've never been able to make anything but sports games that are any good. They'd go out of business if the masses stopped buying Madden on their 360s every year ---
Zyck KDS Navy	Posted - 2008.10.22 04:23:00 - [7] Originally by: Tortun Nahme sales were so bad for mass effect that they HAD to port it to pc after declaring straight from the start they wouldn't, and it was so epic fail on pc that we aren't even going there sales for kotor were underwhelming compared to BG 1+2 and nwn, the sales for jade empire fell even farther short of kotor a downward trend that resulsts in a company needing to be bailed out TWICE (once by a merger with pandemic and finally selling out to EA) really doesn't need any more explanation than the solid numbers I don't know the final sales, but ME sold over a million copies...in the first three weeks. KOTOR sold over a million on the xbox version alone. Can't find anything on Jade Empire sales, at least not with an initial search. So I guess according to you making large sums of money isn't considered successful anymore? Porting ME made them more money, hence they did it. Generally businesses try to do that. You know. Make more money. And they didn't port it because there was no demand for it either. -Zyck
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr Shadow Company Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.10.22 04:36:00 - [8] And what exactly do you want to say with that? That you equate "Quality" with "Number of Sales"? BG, Jade Empire, KotOR, NWN, Mass Effect and MDK2 were all great games (which is both my opinion and the opinion of the average reviewer). Calling Bioware a one hit wonder is like calling Queen a one hit wonder because nothing else they made quite equaled "We Will Rock You" in terms of popularity. ______________________________________________ -My respect can not be won, only lost. It's given freely and only grudgingly withdrawn.
Zyck KDS Navy	Posted - 2008.10.22 04:42:00 - [9] Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel And what exactly do you want to say with that? That you equate "Quality" with "Number of Sales"? BG, Jade Empire, KotOR, NWN, Mass Effect and MDK2 were all great games (which is both my opinion and the opinion of the average reviewer). Calling Bioware a one hit wonder is like calling Queen a one hit wonder because nothing else they made quite equaled "We Will Rock You" in terms of popularity. Actually if you read one post up both KOTOR and ME had great sales... -Zyck
EnslaverOfMinmatar Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition	Posted - 2008.10.22 05:18:00 - [10] Hope they don't screw up like they did with KOTOR 1. KOTOR 2 by Obsidian is far superior than KOTOR 1 :P even tho it has the same graphics. NO SRSLY Skills continue training even if you are logged off or if your account is inactive (in the second scenario you can't change skill tr
Pliskkenn Minmatar Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.10.22 06:35:00 - [11] So Revan failed in stopping the Sith Empire. That sucks. ---
Rhatar Khurin Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2008.10.22 10:51:00 - [12] Edited by: Rhatar Khurin on 22/10/2008 10:51:21 Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar Hope they don't screw up like they did with KOTOR 1. KOTOR 2 by Obsidian is far superior than KOTOR 1 :P even tho it has the same graphics. NO SRSLY and how exactly did they screw KOTOR 1 up? They made the first one, it was not like they were given a ready made game and told to make a sequel like Obsidian had. In most respect i think KOTOR 1 is a better game, it has a more interesting story and it's longer.
Myrhial Arkenath Ghost Festival	Posted - 2008.10.22 11:53:00 - [13] Originally by: Pliskkenn So Revan failed in stopping the Sith Empire. That sucks. I thought of another Revan for a moment there. >_> <_< ... On topic, I liked the KotoR games, Mass Effect and the NWN series. Not to mention how much hours I have put into the first BG, my first ever rpg. So I am hoping this turn out to be good. Diary of a pod pilot
Shirley Serious Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.10.22 12:04:00 - [14] Originally by: Pliskkenn So Revan failed in stopping the Sith Empire. That sucks. Was that what Revan + the Exile actually went off to deal with? I wouldn't be too surprised if eventually it turns out that there was an even bigger evil than the Sith Empire, and they are merely to make sure that the galaxy as a whole, Republic+Sith, are on a vigilant footing, ready to combat whatever this thing is. Yes. Yes, I am.
Asestorian Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.10.22 13:56:00 - [15] Well, it seems implied that the Sith in this game are the ones Revan went to stop (which I guess means he failed). But that isn't guaranteed. It was never qualified whether the threat from the True Sith was an invasion fleet or something more subtle and sinister. There is also a chance that Revan's plan is still ongoing, though that does start to sound a little absurd, considering the time-span involved. Revan was pretty awesome, but was he actually capable of planning 300 years into the future? --- Originally by: CCP Atropos Destiny Balls
EnslaverOfMinmatar Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition	Posted - 2008.10.22 14:46:00 - [16] Originally by: Rhatar Khurin and how exactly did they screw KOTOR 1 up? They made the first one, it was not like they were given a ready made game and told to make a sequel like Obsidian had. In most respect i think KOTOR 1 is a better game, it has a more interesting story and it's longer. The overall story is interesting, but all the quests feel like they are copy-pasted. There's like 3 quests on each planet(except the 1st one and dantooine) and you end up running around 95% of the time. Compared to NWN1, which they made like a year before kotor1, this game blows. The lulz factor is also bad - I killed only 1 jedi during the whole game and thousands of sith while being fully on the dark side... what's that about? Originally by: Pliskkenn So Revan failed in stopping the Sith Empire. That sucks. Of course she did, why would a Sith Lord stop her own empire? Skills continue training even if you are logged off or if your account is inactive (in the second scenario you can't change skill tr
Caldari cheese	Posted - 2008.10.22 14:55:00 - [17] something to keep me busy while decompressing from bugs of Eve.
Irida Mershkov Gallente War is Bliss	Posted - 2008.10.22 15:00:00 - [18] Originally by: Mankirks Wife I thought about buying Mass Effect, console port and all, but after one SecureROM nightmare, I refuse to buy anything that uses it, no matter how good it supposedly is. Mass Effect is awesome, third playthrough, No SecROM problems or anything. Get it naooooooooooo!
Asestorian Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.10.22 15:14:00 - [19] Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar Originally by: Pliskkenn So Revan failed in stopping the Sith Empire. That sucks. Of course she did, why would a Sith Lord stop her own empire? He* (canonically male (and lightside)) And wrong empire He made an Empire to wake the Republic up and force it to rebuild stronger, then buggered off to go fight the "True Sith" on his own, like the badass he is. --- Originally by: CCP Atropos Destiny Balls
Raymond Sterns Utopian Research I.E.L. The ENTITY.	Posted - 2008.10.22 16:14:00 - [20] Originally by: Asestorian Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar Originally by: Pliskkenn So Revan failed in stopping the Sith Empire. That sucks. Of course she did, why would a Sith Lord stop her own empire? He* (canonically male (and lightside)) And wrong empire He made an Empire to wake the Republic up and force it to rebuild stronger, then buggered off to go fight the "True Sith" on his own, like the badass he is. Uh, Revan is a woman. And I sense the fail will be strong with this game. _ Hooray for ****ty marketing moves.
Eran Laude Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.10.22 18:47:00 - [21] Edited by: Eran Laude on 22/10/2008 18:48:11 Originally by: Raymond Sterns Originally by: Asestorian He* (canonically male (and lightside)) And wrong empire He made an Empire to wake the Republic up and force it to rebuild stronger, then buggered off to go fight the "True Sith" on his own, like the badass he is. Uh, Revan is a woman. And I sense the fail will be strong with this game. No, Revan is a bloke I'm pretty much sold on this game as a BioWare fan and a KotOR fan. Got lots of whiners on the BioWare forums about "wahahahwhawhawha i wunt a ARR PEE GEE!!!!!1111!!!11oneoneellventelneneleventyoen!" but I loved Mass Effect to bits and will probably be subbing to this.
Shaun Livingstone iMine Industries	Posted - 2008.10.22 19:12:00 - [22] I can rest safely and probably ignore this game in the knowledge that if the EA taint doesn't ruin this, the playerbase will. --
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2008.10.22 19:56:00 - [23] Well.. I will try it as I have tried most of the online games on the market, but the fact is this: I am too happy with EVE! Also, when SOEs SWG:NGE went belly up I dont put the blame fully on SOE, but also on LucasArts, who gave the order. I would not like to position myself where LucasArts orders BioWare doing Seppuku (aka a NGE) too. Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL
Atomos Darksun Infortunatus Eventus Obsidian Empire	Posted - 2008.10.22 21:26:00 - [24] If Jedi is done like it was in SWG at launch, I will be most happy. IE, No Jedi. Come on, bounty hunter! Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice... Atomos' Guide to Forum Flaming
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.10.22 21:34:00 - [25] I just wanted to say I checked the wookieepedia and it states Revan being a male
Asestorian Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.10.22 22:01:00 - [26] Originally by: Raymond Sterns Uh, Revan is a woman. And I sense the fail will be strong with this game. Revan is canonically lightside male. The Exile is canonically lightside female. --- Originally by: CCP Atropos Destiny Balls
Raymond Sterns Utopian Research I.E.L. The ENTITY.	Posted - 2008.10.23 00:15:00 - [27] Originally by: Asestorian Originally by: Raymond Sterns Uh, Revan is a woman. And I sense the fail will be strong with this game. Revan is canonically lightside male. The Exile is canonically lightside female. KoToR2 always told me Revan was a woman, wtf? Doesn't Onasi come look for you and ask you about Revan near the end? _ Hooray for ****ty marketing moves.
Aeo IV Amarr Xomic OmniCorporation	Posted - 2008.10.23 00:40:00 - [28] Originally by: Raymond Sterns KoToR2 always told me Revan was a woman, wtf? Doesn't Onasi come look for you and ask you about Revan near the end? (you're suppose to correct him if he says that, if you played a male in KOTOR1, it's suppose to be a nice continuation from the various game)
Taradis Amarr The Imperial Assassins	Posted - 2008.10.23 05:59:00 - [29] I liked both KOTOR 1 and 2 only thing that **ed me off about them was the damn bugs on Dantooine that made that planet damn near impossible to play and you checked the forums for some sort of a clue as to why it's happening and no luck on that so basically they were killer games with ** for support. If ur gonna make a game support the damn thing FFS. Wish they would get a KOTOR 3 going, now that would be awesome. I really got into the first 2 even playing both male and female toons it's cool because of the dialog changes and what not and the fact that you can take on an apprentice.
Delvardious Kaesos Caldari Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.10.23 07:24:00 - [30] As somebody who played Star Wars Galaxies since the beginning of the beta until the NGE came out, I am naturally wary about this game and how EA(who is almost as bad as SOE) will handle this game. I have the utmost faith in BioWare who have made some of the best RPG games in the past few years and I hope they can deliver with something that a LOT of SWG veterans and refugees like myself are looking forward to. Of course I hope EA doesn't decide to mess this game up. They could stand to make a great popular game if pulled off properly, given the hope of many former SWG players for another Star Wars MMO to come out. And you get to join the Sith. I'm down. ---------------------------------------- Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes.

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