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Ankhesentapemkah Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.10.22 10:51:00 - [1] Since the previous thread on obtaining maximum rank was outdated after the nerf, I decided to go through it again and obtain maximum rank for the Gallente as well. Here are the stats. Total number of required plexes: ~522 These stats are based on offensive plex captures, defensive plex captures have a variable yield. There are a few defensive captures in my data, but nothing to offset the numbers in any statistical relevant way. Breakdown per rank: 1 Federation Minuteman: 0 2 Defender Lieutenant: 4 (+4) 3 Guardian Lieutenant: 10 (+6) 4 Lieutenant Sentinel: 19 (+9) 5 Shield Commander: 37 (+18) 6 Aegis Commander: 65 (+28) 7 Vice Commander: 108 (+43) 8 Major General: 177 (+69) 9 Lieutenant General: 292 (+115) 10 Luminaire General: 522 (+230) Defensive plex capture standing yield: 1 Federation Minuteman: +3.0% 2 Defender Lieutenant: +2.0959% 3 Guardian Lieutenant: +1.2457% 4 Lieutenant Sentinel: +0.8584% 5 Shield Commander: +0.6425% 6 Aegis Commander: +0.5071% 7 Vice Commander: +0.4152% 8 Major General: +0.3493% 9 Lieutenant General: +0.3% 10 Luminaire General: +0.2619% Other facts: Captured almost all of these solo. Was podkilled 22 times. Lost 47 ships. Made 0 kills. I estimate the ship + fit - insurance payout costs at 150k as I didn't fit weapons, just AB/MWD/Overdrives/Stabs in whatever combination they happened to be available. Thanks to: Siigari Kitawa and his group for letting me come along and tackle stuff for some PVP experience. --- Thanks for all that supported me. Let me know if there's anything I can do for you.
RedSplat	Posted - 2008.10.22 10:54:00 - [2] The galente militia actually undock these days? Hot Damn!
Mikal Drey Minmatar ORIGIN SYSTEMS Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.22 11:01:00 - [3] hey hey how much was your clone ?
Ankhesentapemkah Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.10.22 11:19:00 - [4] Originally by: Mikal Drey hey hey how much was your clone ? Sorry, that information is classified. --- Thanks for all that supported me. Let me know if there's anything I can do for you.
Rhatar Khurin Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2008.10.22 11:21:00 - [5] I found the larger plexs a lot easier to capture using this method of small fast ships as just orbiting the structure at full speed within capture range you are near impossible to hit by cruiser or larger sized ships, but the small plexs with their smaller capture range and frigates caught me out a few times.
Malcanis RuffRyders Eradication Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.22 11:24:00 - [6] Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Edited by: Ankhesentapemkah on 22/10/2008 11:18:07 Since the previous thread on obtaining maximum rank was outdated after the nerf, I decided to go through it again and obtain maximum rank for the Gallente as well. Here are the stats. Total number of required plexes: ~522 These stats are based on offensive plex captures, defensive plex captures have a variable yield. There are a few defensive captures in my data, but nothing to offset the numbers in any statistical relevant way. Breakdown per rank: 1 Federation Minuteman: 0 2 Defender Lieutenant: 4 (+4) 3 Guardian Lieutenant: 10 (+6) 4 Lieutenant Sentinel: 19 (+9) 5 Shield Commander: 37 (+18) 6 Aegis Commander: 65 (+28) 7 Vice Commander: 108 (+43) 8 Major General: 177 (+69) 9 Lieutenant General: 292 (+115) 10 Luminaire General: 522 (+230) Defensive plex capture standing yield: 1 Federation Minuteman: +3.0% 2 Defender Lieutenant: +2.0959% 3 Guardian Lieutenant: +1.2457% 4 Lieutenant Sentinel: +0.8584% 5 Shield Commander: +0.6425% 6 Aegis Commander: +0.5071% 7 Vice Commander: +0.4152% 8 Major General: +0.3493% 9 Lieutenant General: +0.3% 10 Luminaire General: +0.2619% Other facts: Captured almost all of these solo. Maximum amount of plexes captured in a single day: 38 Maximum amount of plexes captured in a single week: 159 Was podkilled 22 times. Lost 47 ships. Made 0 kills. I estimate the ship + fit - insurance payout costs at 150k as I didn't fit weapons, just AB/MWD/Overdrives/Stabs in whatever combination they happened to be available. Thanks to: Siigari Kitawa and his group for letting me come along and tackle stuff for some PVP experience. Just to note that if you were tackling, then you were getting on killmails, even if you didn't get the killmail. How many KMs did you get on? It's not so long ago that you posted that you won't even fire at another player in self-defence, but a tackler is a purely non-consensual PvP since all you do is stop people leaving when they want to. How has your opinion on PvP changed? What about your opnion of PvPers?
Mikal Drey Minmatar ORIGIN SYSTEMS Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.22 11:58:00 - [7] Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Sorry, that information is classified. not exactly secret information but fyi mine is 13mil per podding so 22x 13mil is kinda hard to swallow. as well as the implants and inconvenience it would cause. 286mil in clones just to get a epeen shiny isnt exactly my idea of fun. what are your standings like now ? nice numbers and thanks for providing them. i always thought the ranks were improved by standings to the militia corp. if you started with no militia standing and was purely data collecting for plex grinding how long did capturing ~522 plex's take ? also hows your faction standings ? do the losses cause changes to faction ?
Ankhesentapemkah Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.10.22 12:16:00 - [8] Originally by: Malcanis Just to note that if you were tackling, then you were getting on killmails, even if you didn't get the killmail. How many KMs did you get on? I got no idea, somewhere between 5 and 10 kills and was involved in several that got away because we had to retreat. Originally by: Malcanis It's not so long ago that you posted that you won't even fire at another player in self-defence, but a tackler is a purely non-consensual PvP since all you do is stop people leaving when they want to. How has your opinion on PvP changed? What about your opnion of PvPers? Well first of all I acted solely against filthy Cald... I mean enemy militants, and since those people signed their soul away to Sata... I mean the State Protectorate, of all things, it's hard to say they partake in non-consensual PVP. I left all neutrals alone unless they were attacking us. My opinion changed in so far that I don't just think PVP is stupid, I now also think it's incredibly BORING. There were many occasions where I stayed with the group because they needed me, even though I was thinking "God, this is tedious and non-productive, when can I get back to plexing..." (and we all know how boring plexing is) But hey, I had to try eh? Maybe I'll try again at a later date but so far I found the experience thoroughly unenjoyable, just like I found WoW's PVP unenjoyable. Only difference between WoW and Eve is that in WoW you get stuff from PVP and the opponent loses nothing, thus being a productive activity, while in Eve your gain is less than the opponent's loss, making it worse than stealing. At least for capturing complexes I get a shiny rank icon for my invested ISK, but for PVP I get nothing, it only costs money. And I quit WoW a long time ago before anyone goes whining about that. Grind for items so you can grind for better items, sheesh. Plus all creativity in builds being stomped out and no-one wanting a DPS warrior in their guild Anyway, back on topic. The PVP group I went with were quite a nice bunch so I suppose not all of them are braindead smacktalkers with the IQ equivalent of 10 year olds on XBox Live (I ran into a group of those guys a few days back though). I think Factional Warfare provides a nice place for consensual PVP, but that it is currently lacking in the reward department. Even I might be tempted into some actual pew-pew to compete with other willing participants if it would earn us something shiny. Right now good players are not rewarded in any way, and you cannot make a career out of FW, it just costs you a lot of ISK. I also realized that this FW gameplay could in some way be translated to 0.0 warfare, where signing up with one of the factions is basically consenting to being at war with their enemies, so that would make 0.0 warfare somewhat acceptable. I still frown heavily on the NBSI policy most of those alliances maintain, though. --- Thanks for all that supported me. Let me know if there's anything I can do for you.
Lana Lanee	Posted - 2008.10.22 12:18:00 - [9] and all these medals help you..how?
Rhatar Khurin Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2008.10.22 12:22:00 - [10] Originally by: Lana Lanee and all these medals help you..how? Well, if the certification thing includes FW ranks/medals you'll get laid in ambulation more often.

Lana Lanee	Posted - 2008.10.22 12:23:00 - [11] ok. can i trade the 522 medals for 522 veldspar?
Ankhesentapemkah Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.10.22 12:31:00 - [12] Originally by: Mikal Drey not exactly secret information but fyi mine is 13mil per podding so 22x 13mil is kinda hard to swallow. as well as the implants and inconvenience it would cause. 286mil in clones just to get a epeen shiny isnt exactly my idea of fun. Let's just say I had to run missions every once in a while for money and I'm currently quite broke. Quote: what are your standings like now ? Unmodified: 7.70 SOE 6.01 Amarr 5.19 Gallente 4.73 Ammatar 4.37 Khanid 3.09 Interbus 2.72 ORE 2.19 Minmatar 2.00 Mordu 1.71 Caldari 1.50 Society -0.43 Jove All mission running was done for Amarr so that's why my Amarr and Caldari are still so high, and those were also boosted quite high due to my promotions with 24th Imperial Crusade (see other thread). Quote: nice numbers and thanks for providing them. i always thought the ranks were improved by standings to the militia corp. if you started with no militia standing and was purely data collecting for plex grinding how long did capturing ~522 plex's take ? That's exactly the case. You start with no militia standing and you get a promotion for each 1.00 you gain. Each promotion earns you faction standing as follows: Rank 1: get for free. Rank 2: +4.4198% Rank 3: +6.4198% Rank 4: +8.4198% Rank 5: +10.4198% Rank 6: +12.4198% Rank 7: +14.4198% Rank 8: +16.4198% Rank 9: +18.4198% Rank 10: +20.0% End result is that if you start with the required 0.50 faction standing, you end up slightly above 7 from all promotions. As far as I know Social skill does not affect these gains nor the complex capture gains. --- Thanks for all that supported me. Let me know if there's anything I can do for you.
Mikal Drey Minmatar ORIGIN SYSTEMS Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.22 12:36:00 - [13] if this is indeed the case then you could run less plexes and more missions. maybe even earn ranks to your non milita alt by gang sharing the standings gains. did you get ANY faction gains or is the FW saide gains purely for the militia corp.
Ankhesentapemkah Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.22 12:48:00 - [14] Edited by: Ankhesentapemkah on 22/10/2008 12:49:29 Originally by: Mikal Drey if this is indeed the case then you could run less plexes and more missions. maybe even earn ranks to your non milita alt by gang sharing the standings gains. Yep with an alt its even easier since you can have one in an inty grab all agro while the rest is relatively safe and capturing the plex. Also won't have to worry as much about people trying to snatch the plex from you. However I have only one account, poor student and unwilling to skill up another character especially now after the ghost training nerf. Originally by: Mikal Drey did you get ANY faction gains or is the FW saide gains purely for the militia corp. See above. --- Thanks for all that supported me. Let me know if there's anything I can do for you.
Mikal Drey Minmatar ORIGIN SYSTEMS Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.22 13:01:00 - [15] thanks again, and i love rogue drones too
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Trinity Council	Posted - 2008.10.22 13:04:00 - [16] Edited by: soldieroffortune 258 on 22/10/2008 13:05:49 Originally by: RedSplat The galente militia actually undock these days? Hot Damn! please when i was in it 2-3 months ago, every time we got into a fight w/ the caldari we sent half of them back on home on the Clone Vat express, and the other half back in pods all the good milita members simply quit because it was getting repetitive in every engagment, getting blobbed and still stomping you guranteed if they gave some point to capturing systems besides e-peen and bragging rights, the numbers in ALL militas would spike again, and the kills would go to the same way they were before (about 300kills for the gallente, and around 200-250 for the caldari) and you guys would be high tailing it back to tama every time a few battleships jumped in i was in many a battle when we were outgunned, and we still came out on top remember that 50-60 man battle (of which you guys had a fleet of 20+ battleships, we came in with only 4 or 5 battleships) and we still spanked you with your tails tucked to nourvakaiken Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 "*Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer*"
Daelin Blackleaf	Posted - 2008.10.22 13:21:00 - [17] Originally by: Lana Lanee and all these medals help you..how? Virtual medals are just as (in)valid as virtual money or virtual spaceships.
Sexiest Beast Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.10.22 13:24:00 - [18] Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf Originally by: Lana Lanee and all these medals help you..how? Virtual medals are just as (in)valid as virtual money or virtual spaceships. What is really shocking is that they are adding even more :/
Ankhesentapemkah Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.22 19:16:00 - [19] Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 guranteed if they gave some point to capturing systems besides e-peen and bragging rights, the numbers in ALL militas would spike again Quite right, so far there isn't really anything to fight over as capturing a system does not give any benefit. --- Thanks for all that supported me. Let me know if there's anything I can do for you.
iudex Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.10.22 21:31:00 - [20] You could have done it faster with missions. Level 2 missions for examle are doable in a crow, give 5-7 times as much standing boost compared to capturing a site, and they don't require to stay as long at one place as capturing/defending, the risk of being killed is lower. The downside is that you'd have to travel a lot, up to 15 jumps to the mission and back, but this doesn't take that long in a crow, nor can someone catch a crow at a gate in lowsec. _________________________________________ Faction Standings: Serpentis +7.60 // Angel Cartel +7.31 // Minmatar Republic -8.56 // Gallente Federation -9.71

Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.10.23 15:05:00 - [21] Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 23/10/2008 15:07:15 ninja edit WHEEE YOU POSTED ABOUT ME \o/ <3


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