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Kuzya Morozov Gallente L8L8L8	Posted - 2008.10.22 21:50:00 - [1] 3 man combo for roaming/surviving, nano is cool with me. Preferably no caldari/amarr ships (in b4 nerf falcon, 3 falcons, etc.), but they're cool too as long as they have a really good role. Go!
Last Wolf Umbra Wing	Posted - 2008.10.22 21:54:00 - [2] 2 curse 1 falcon =D __________________________________________________________ Originally by: Liang Nuren wrong forum isroy i am vjery drunm
Bronson Hughes ADVANCED Combat and Engineering	Posted - 2008.10.22 22:01:00 - [3] For 0.0 work, a dictor (HIC or regular, depends on your preference) for rapid tackle, a Huginn to keep stuff in the bubble, and something DPS-y, maybe a Zealot or a HAM Sac, to kill them off quickly. Alternatively, you could use a Rook as your 'DPS' ship to jam your targets so you can kill them at your leisure. Note that I picked Combat Recons for a reason: with a gang this small you need as much DPS as possible and since your whole gang can't cloak, being able to cloak and get away just means that your 'dictor and HAC stay to die. If it were a 4-man gang for roaming, I would go 'dictor, Rapier/Huginn, Zealot/Sac, and Falcon/Rook. Make one of the Recons a force recon so it can scout for you, have the other one be a combat recon for more DPS. 3x Falcons or 3x Rooks is actually a very weak gang; you'll be light on tackle and DPS so all you could really do is keep yourself form dying. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne
Ralara Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.22 22:38:00 - [4] Edited by: Ralara on 22/10/2008 22:39:09 Rapier, Arazu and something like an Eagle w/ antimatter rails I guess; Keep them still, stop them locking you and just kill from range and with drones... 40km away will be fine and in range for the Eagle; will give about 600-700 DPS between them... can more or less pick your targets... Put a cloak on the Eagle (lock time wont matter, the enemy isn't going anywhere) and wait for your prey to arrive. --
Vanthropy Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.22 22:41:00 - [5] x2 deimos, x1 falcon/arazu my favorite gang :D "SPEED + GANK = SPANK... Spank that ***** up"
Impolite Andevil The Shadow Knights Bionic Dawn	Posted - 2008.10.22 22:42:00 - [6] Originally by: Ralara Edited by: Ralara on 22/10/2008 22:39:09 Rapier, Arazu and something like an Eagle w/ antimatter rails I guess; Keep them still, stop them locking you and just kill from range and with drones... 40km away will be fine and in range for the Eagle; will give about 600-700 DPS between them... can more or less pick your targets... Put a cloak on the Eagle (lock time wont matter, the enemy isn't going anywhere) and wait for your prey to arrive. This, but a zealot, harbinger, or hurricane instead of the eagle. Even a beagle has pretty lousy damage. Alternatively a broadsword/onyx with a heavy tank for the tackle, rapier/huginn to web, and harb/hurricane to dps.
Davina Braben	Posted - 2008.10.22 22:54:00 - [7] Falcon is pretty useful for a small gang. It helps you disengage if you need to do one in a hurry. It also has a cloak which is rather handy if you get swamped and need to safe up. Then there's probing people out at safes and carrying loots / other stuff in cargo. Plus it can scout. (I haven't flown one but I couldn't really imagine a Rook being a good DPS ship. I guess you could try and stick launchers and BCS on one but it looks like that gets you a fairly lightweight amount of extra DPS in exchange for a reduction in it's ewar capability which leaves me wondering if a different hull would be better for that.) Zealot or Curse because neither have ammo requirements really (having to finish a roam because you're low on ammo is no fun) and both can go quick-ish. With the two recons you can render most slower things you run into completely incapable of doing anything which is nice if you fancy ransoming people. The Zealot OTOH does fairly credible DPS for a quick ship. Sabre for bubbling or another HAC for moar DPS.
Felix Dzerzhinsky Caldari Wreckless Abandon G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.10.22 23:00:00 - [8] 0.0 - Zelot, Sabre, Falcon Lowsec - Drake x 3 ---- ECCM is a Counter-measure not a defense.
NoNah	Posted - 2008.10.22 23:05:00 - [9] 2x Guardian, Apoc/Geddon 1x Falcon, 2x Ishtar Oh... No Amarr/caldari... uhm.... 3x Thorax? oh... surviving... 3x Vagas? Parrots, commence! Postcount: 579382
Kuzya Morozov Gallente L8L8L8	Posted - 2008.10.22 23:22:00 - [10] What about 3 BS, any combinations?

NoNah	Posted - 2008.10.22 23:35:00 - [11] 3x Typhoons or 3x Domis ftw Parrots, commence! Postcount: 661793
Raniss	Posted - 2008.10.23 00:00:00 - [12] 1x instalock heavy dictor + 2x titan
abrasive soap HOMELESS. Elitist Cowards	Posted - 2008.10.23 00:02:00 - [13] Originally by: Kuzya Morozov What about 3 BS, any combinations? 2 domis 1 mega or 1 domi 2 megas substitute abaddon/geddon/hyperion/typhoon/tempest for mega when wanted.
Aleus Stygian	Posted - 2008.10.23 00:06:00 - [14] Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky 0.0 - Zelot, Sabre, Falcon Lowsec - Drake x 3 Yeah. This *gotry is sadly correct. Originally by:** Kuzya Morozov What about 3 BS, any combinations? Haha! Ehm... well... Phoon is a must for versatility and the lockdown. Then you top that out with some tankship (Baddon, Mael, Rokh, Pal...) and a gankship (Geddon, Torp Raven, Sniperpoc, etcetera...) and you're set with a gang that can at least out-DPS and outlast everything. Good luck with holding and hitting stuff you come across though... Me though? I'd say you should take a Crusader or Malediction, then put a Falcon on that, and top it off with either a Zealot or an Apocalypse.
RedSplat	Posted - 2008.10.23 00:07:00 - [15] 3 *Drake
abrasive soap HOMELESS. Elitist Cowards	Posted - 2008.10.23 00:23:00 - [16] Originally by: Aleus Stygian Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky 0.0 - Zelot, Sabre, Falcon Lowsec - Drake x 3 Yeah. This *gotry is sadly correct. Originally by:** Kuzya Morozov What about 3 BS, any combinations? Haha! Ehm... well... Phoon is a must for versatility and the lockdown. Then you top that out with some tankship (Baddon, Mael, Rokh, Pal...) and a gankship (Geddon, Torp Raven, Sniperpoc, etcetera...) and you're set with a gang that can at least out-DPS and outlast everything. Good luck with holding and hitting stuff you come across though... Me though? I'd say you should take a Crusader or Malediction, then put a Falcon on that, and top it off with either a Zealot or an Apocalypse. Having one ship with a strong local tank does not make your gang any stronger. This is why passive drakes are poor gang ships. You need remote reps, ecm or need each ship to have its own strong local tank (remote reps are more efficient than local reps and have the ability to be focused on one person).
NoNah	Posted - 2008.10.23 00:29:00 - [17] Originally by: abrasive soap Having one ship with a strong local tank does not make your gang any stronger. This is why passive drakes are poor gang ships. You need remote reps, ecm or need each ship to have its own strong local tank (remote reps are more efficient than local reps and have the ability to be focused on one person). Not entirely true, 3 drakes with buffers and spider tanks can make for an awesome gang. Only issue will be tackle due to their awful speed. =( Parrots, commence! Postcount: 746343
Aleus Stygian	Posted - 2008.10.23 01:15:00 - [18] Originally by: abrasive soap Having one ship with a strong local tank does not make your gang any stronger. This is why passive drakes are poor gang ships. You need remote reps, ecm or need each ship to have its own strong local tank (remote reps are more efficient than local reps and have the ability to be focused on one person). I was thinking more about flexibility and being able to vary functions here. One of the ships should be a baitship so that you can drop in on some guys who have already decided to commit to the fight and who are now struggling to wear their target down and/or waiting for support. Yes, a lot of Battleships can do this, but you don't want to have to activetank everything if you're going to squeeze as much DPS out of the gang as possible.
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.10.23 01:43:00 - [19] Arazu, Rapier, Falcon. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
abrasive soap HOMELESS. Elitist Cowards	Posted - 2008.10.23 01:55:00 - [20] Edited by: abrasive soap on 23/10/2008 02:01:11 Originally by: NoNah Originally by: abrasive soap Having one ship with a strong local tank does not make your gang any stronger. This is why passive drakes are poor gang ships. You need remote reps, ecm or need each ship to have its own strong local tank (remote reps are more efficient than local reps and have the ability to be focused on one person). Not entirely true, 3 drakes with buffers and spider tanks can make for an awesome gang. Only issue will be tackle due to their awful speed. =( buffer tank =/= passive tank HAM drakes with buffers are excellent Also I haven't heard of using only drakes for spider gangs but you never know I guess About the bait ship thing, RR and ECM let you take on uneven odds unlike having one heavily tanked bait ship that just gets primaried last while your other ships die.

NoNah	Posted - 2008.10.23 01:58:00 - [21] Originally by: abrasive soap Originally by: NoNah Originally by: abrasive soap Having one ship with a strong local tank does not make your gang any stronger. This is why passive drakes are poor gang ships. You need remote reps, ecm or need each ship to have its own strong local tank (remote reps are more efficient than local reps and have the ability to be focused on one person). Not entirely true, 3 drakes with buffers and spider tanks can make for an awesome gang. Only issue will be tackle due to their awful speed. =( buffer tank =/= passive tank HAM drakes with buffers are excellent Also I haven't heard of using only drakes for spider gangs but you never know I guess Oups, sorry about that. Though technically, it doesn't have to be based around regeneration to be passive.... Parrots, commence! Postcount: 64205
Aleus Stygian	Posted - 2008.10.23 02:11:00 - [22] Originally by: abrasive soap About the bait ship thing, RR and ECM let you take on uneven odds unlike having one heavily tanked bait ship that just gets primaried last while your other ships die. 'Kay, use a Scorpion then. He probably won't be more than bored but he'll fill a whole lot of function.
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.10.23 04:12:00 - [23] All for one, one for all! ----------------------------------------- [Video] Tempest of Change
Kalek Astroth A.N.A.R.C.H.I.C.A	Posted - 2008.10.23 04:19:00 - [24] broadsword falcon nanoishtar
Aziz Hekato Native Freshfood	Posted - 2008.10.23 07:09:00 - [25] 3x Dominix w/large smartbombs and warpdisruptors, going off at the same time. Jihad style. Or a Tempest, Huginn and a Falcon. The Tempest because I never see them around and would love to see them in combat again. _____________________________ Entering the Intergalactic Summit forum is like walking into a Startrek convention; All you'll see is a bunch of nerds and you'll go "WTF?"
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core	Posted - 2008.10.23 08:40:00 - [26] Edited by: Garia666 on 23/10/2008 08:40:51 Curse, Falcon, Rapier .. Its no hig on damage but you will be able to get around in every situation. And will be able to kill every type of ship.. ( non capuital ofcourse ) If the curse takes a med tech II bubble for a small quick camp it will be even better.. www.garia.net
Ralara Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.23 10:13:00 - [27] Originally by: Impolite Andevil Originally by: Ralara Edited by: Ralara on 22/10/2008 22:39:09 Rapier, Arazu and something like an Eagle w/ antimatter rails I guess; Keep them still, stop them locking you and just kill from range and with drones... 40km away will be fine and in range for the Eagle; will give about 600-700 DPS between them... can more or less pick your targets... Put a cloak on the Eagle (lock time wont matter, the enemy isn't going anywhere) and wait for your prey to arrive. This, but a zealot, harbinger, or hurricane instead of the eagle. Even a beagle has pretty lousy damage. Well, depends on what you can fly I guess. Insert a ship that can fire at 40km with ok/good damage; zealot, harb, eagle... cane. Nothing really bigger as you'd want agility if things go **** up. --
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.10.23 10:32:00 - [28] falcon + anything + anything
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.10.23 10:51:00 - [29] Originally by: Gneeznow falcon + anything + anything Falcon + Rapier + Arazu are even funnier because you can tackle at 40-ish KM easy so even if they bring more and more stuff, you're always 100% safe if you're not a muppet, and you get to completely choose your fights. Lacks a bait ship of course Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core	Posted - 2008.10.23 13:41:00 - [30] Originally by: Cpt Branko Originally by: Gneeznow falcon + anything + anything Falcon + Rapier + Arazu are even funnier because you can tackle at 40-ish KM easy so even if they bring more and more stuff, you're always 100% safe if you're not a muppet, and you get to completely choose your fights. Lacks a bait ship of course my abbadon could tank these all day..



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