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Acix
Merchent Pimps
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Posted - 2008.10.24 08:28:00 -
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just wanted to know if u can get succesful in creating bpc 2's without putting a ship into the invention lab as it gets pretty expensive putting a bc with every attempt and obviousley not going to make much profit as u then have to build or buy another if u get succesful to build the tech 2 ship. all my skills are maxed out in invention and i also got the draftsman implant so just wanted to know from other fellow inventioneers if they have had success attempting to get bpc;s without the ship?
hope this makes sense 
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peonizia
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.24 09:03:00 -
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no,
dont put ships to the invention job, they are doing nothing to the job. |
Acix
Merchent Pimps
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Posted - 2008.10.24 10:13:00 -
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I just dont understand y they have a slot for it then if it doesnt do anything to help succeed ?
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Braaage
Ministry of Craft
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Posted - 2008.10.24 10:15:00 -
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All ships are meta level 0 so they do absolutely nothing to the invention outcome other than to make it more expensive.
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Maudad
Amarr
Stellar-Parallax Corp
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Posted - 2008.10.24 10:19:00 -
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Edited by: Maudad on 24/10/2008 10:18:55
They have a slot for it because named modules do have meta levels higher than 0 and they can be worthwhile using.
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Acix
Merchent Pimps
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Posted - 2008.10.24 10:23:00 -
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right thats brilliant news lol ...ive always used a ship and thought this is very expensive .lol thankyou all for helping me out on this matter and explaining it to me 
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Braaage
Ministry of Craft
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Posted - 2008.10.24 10:42:00 -
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What most people also don't realise is standard tech I modules are also meta level 0 and do nothing for invention outcome. Only named items have meta levels higher than 0 and only meta levels 1-4 can actually be used in the invention job.
Basic rule on this is if the item has a meta level it will be displayed in the item properties, if it's not displayed it's meta level 0 and useless for invention jobs.
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ScottyDosn'tKnow
Task Force Zener
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.24 17:06:00 -
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So from what I'm seeing posted ammo is meta 0 as well? |
Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2008.10.25 05:18:00 -
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Yes.
And while CCP haven't officially said that Meta 0 items have no effect, people have run a lot of jobs to deduce this. Even if it had any effect being as it's too small to detect, it's not worth doing regardless.
http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/invention_chance.php
^ This is the most highly regarded invention chance calculator. |
Wirox Crotikus
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Posted - 2008.10.25 05:33:00 -
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So, just a little reminder to all the people who have been writing in here.
I have to say no no no to u all.
I have been playing the game since 2005.
And the ships HAVE meta lvl. u just cant see it.
But for those who knows the meta lvl and knows what lvl they are at it shurely helps.
For an example. The Caldari BS is like this:
Scorpion + raven meta lvl. 1
Rokh meta lvl 2.
But i shurely not gonna help thats right. If u are doing ship inventions u do not need to do that.
Only do the max runs BPC is gonna help and the decrypters.
It only works a little but not woth while... |
Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2008.10.25 05:44:00 -
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 Originally by: Wirox Crotikus
And the ships HAVE meta lvl. u just cant see it.
You're talking about tiers. Maybe, and even then you're not right.
The meta level of all tech 1 items is 0.
The meta level of all tech 2 items is 5.
Officer / Cosmos / Factions items are meta level 6+
'meta' modules are T1 named modules which are meta 1-4.
You can these days see these in the info. However you can still and always could see the meta level of an item by looking in the database dump.
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Braaage
Ministry of Craft
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Posted - 2008.10.25 09:38:00 -
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Edited by: Braaage on 25/10/2008 09:38:39
Originally by: Wirox Crotikus
And the ships HAVE meta lvl. u just cant see it.
But for those who knows the meta lvl and knows what lvl they are at it shurely helps.
For an example. The Caldari BS is like this:
Scorpion + raven meta lvl. 1
Rokh meta lvl 2.
So please explain why in the database dumps all ships show meta level 0 like
http://datadump.eve-guides.com/item.php?typeID=582
http://datadump.eve-guides.com/item.php?typeID=638
Tip - meta level is in the very last section so scroll all the way to the bottom and it's about halfway down.
Trust me when we know what we are talking about. Players are making invention very costly because a) CCP kinda left us to it b) The information about invention is player driven. |
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