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Artaanis	Posted - 2008.10.24 21:33:00 - [1] do you have hot keys set? It takes me to long that the owner takes the stuff out before I can and his can gets destroyed. Please tell me the fastest most effecient way to do this. Thanks.
Spider Silva	Posted - 2008.10.24 21:37:00 - [2] step 1- make sure your not on dial up step 2, fly over quickly, jettison your own can within 1500m of their can, swap their stuff into your can then ideally zoom away and cloak, wait for flashy red and decloak and get that unsatisfying pointless pathetic totally aimless hauler kill. hope that helps, by the way have you considered real pvp?
Zedrik Cayne Gallente Session9 Malum Exuro	Posted - 2008.10.24 22:14:00 - [3] Practice. And also the realization that you don't have to actually have a fully open window to drag to. You can drag from your open can to the tab of your can. General operation is like this: 1) Before approaching target, have 1 unit of whatever to make your own can ready. 2) Bookmark the target's can, warp out and warp onto target's can. 3) Jet your can immediately and 'approach' target can. 4) Open your new can while moving closer to target can..hit ctrl-space as soon as your can opens otherwise you might get out of range of your can while approaching his. 5) Click on the target can in the overview and spam 'open' on it. It should open over the same window your old can was in. 6) Hit Ctrl-A to select everything in the can and drag to yours. It helps if you have done it several times before, and have moved the new open can window up near the top of the overview where the window with all the buttons are. Minimum mouse movement is what you're looking for in this case if you need to do it ultra fast.
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.10.25 01:37:00 - [4] Originally by: Spider Silva step 1- make sure your not on dial up step 2, fly over quickly, jettison your own can within 1500m of their can, swap their stuff into your can then ideally zoom away and cloak, wait for flashy red and decloak and get that unsatisfying pointless pathetic totally aimless hauler kill. hope that helps, by the way have you considered real pvp? So true so true. Also, don't forget to smack in local about how ub3r ur because u kill3d teh 2 month old cruis3r with t3h mining loasors.
1Evildude Gallente Task Force Zener Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.25 08:40:00 - [5] This is how you're supose to flip cans! Can flipping like a pro
Rivur'Tam X10 Punishment La Cosa Nostra Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.25 11:26:00 - [6] Originally by: Vaal Erit Originally by: Spider Silva step 1- make sure your not on dial up step 2, fly over quickly, jettison your own can within 1500m of their can, swap their stuff into your can then ideally zoom away and cloak, wait for flashy red and decloak and get that unsatisfying pointless pathetic totally aimless hauler kill. hope that helps, by the way have you considered real pvp? So true so true. Also, don't forget to smack in local about how ub3r ur because u kill3d teh 2 month old cruis3r with t3h mining loasors. You honestly don't like annoying people ???? It not really about the kill its about the pain you cause.
Beauf	Posted - 2008.10.25 14:20:00 - [7] Originally by: 1Evildude This is how you're supose to flip cans! Can flipping like a pro lol i dont understand wtf happened here
Boomershoot Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.10.25 14:58:00 - [8] tsk... 1 - Use Scanner, Find cargo. 2 - Warp to belt, do a bookmark before landing on belt (usually, your best standard must be just out the grid, so 500-600km, most times you'll end with 3-30 thousand km, that's fine too. 3 - Bookmark cargo, warp to the spot you did before landing, set whole corp orange (or whatever color you like, just set standing to make them screm "ZOMG I'M OF THAT CORP" when you look at local. 4 - as you land on the spot (quite fast warp) rewarp on the bookmark you made of the can. open the cargo og your ship while you're warping. 5 - on overview, click on the cargo and keep pressing approach until your ships start moving. 6 - as you reach 1500m, jettison your unit of whatever you're using and open the cargo you want to flip 7 - Flip. if you want the can to be intact, shift-drag and leave one unit inside the flipped cargo. 8 - ??? 9 - PROFIT doing this in a fast, little ship may also be usefull, you'll usually land 20km from cargos, so if you're fast enough you may have the chance to bump the near industrial and avoid it taking the stuff inside before the flip. ofc, you need practice, lot of practice :P ______________________________________________
Demitria Fernir Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.10.25 15:06:00 - [9] Originally by: 1Evildude This is how you're supose to flip cans! Can flipping like a pro AHAH OH WOW!
1Evildude Gallente Task Force Zener Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.25 15:22:00 - [10] Originally by: Beauf Originally by: 1Evildude This is how you're supose to flip cans! Can flipping like a pro lol i dont understand wtf happened here The guy was afk and was slowly getting killed by the rats. It just so happened that just as I stole from his can, he reached hull and exploded. The timing for that was insane, it almost looks staged.
Orar Ironfist Digital assassins	Posted - 2008.10.25 17:02:00 - [11] if you really wanna know just convo Menod and ask
Malka Badi'a Suffoco Noctis	Posted - 2008.10.25 17:11:00 - [12] Why aren't people using secure cans yet. I don't care that it drops down to around 4,000m3. Multiple secure cans can still net 12,000m3 if you plant three. Granted, it's not the 27.5k m3 of a jettison can, but there is zero risk of profit loss. If you're mining faster than that anyway, you should be mining with a group already and thus have a dedicated hauler. PvErs. I swear to god it's like watching monkeys fly.
Mr Softeee	Posted - 2008.10.25 17:26:00 - [13] Edited by: Mr Softeee on 25/10/2008 17:26:41 Originally by: Malka Badi'a Why aren't people using secure cans yet. I don't care that it drops down to around 4,000m3. Multiple secure cans can still net 12,000m3 if you plant three. Granted, it's not the 27.5k m3 of a jettison can, but there is zero risk of profit loss. If you're mining faster than that anyway, you should be mining with a group already and thus have a dedicated hauler. PvErs. I swear to god it's like watching monkeys fly. Because of 2 reasons,: 1. Secure cans are just an easier way to steal ore in systems above 0.7. You can't anchor them and all the collector needs to do is fly up in an indy, right click and select scoop to cargo :) Best bit of this is that you get no aggro. Take it back to station, if it's passworded just select repackage and all the locked up goodies are in your hangar. Sell can back to guy you got it from and repeat :) 2. People forget to anchor them when they deploy them in 0.7 and below - repeat rest of above.
Malka Badi'a Suffoco Noctis	Posted - 2008.10.25 17:30:00 - [14] Originally by: Mr Softeee 1. Secure cans are ... I was not aware of the 0.7 anchoring. Wow. Also, honestly moving into 0.7 seems like a very simple move for any minor. It isn't like the rats grow Tachys. Quote: 2. People forget to anchor them when they deploy them in 0.7 and below Nice. A failure of PvErs. But nice. Thanks for the info above.
Tzar'rim	Posted - 2008.10.25 18:30:00 - [15] I'll make a movie on how to canflip some day.
Boomershoot Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.10.25 20:39:00 - [16] here's some video of a canflip, nevermind the quality, my video card and fraps both hate me, big time :( FASTER THAN A VEXOR!!!! ______________________________________________
Demitria Fernir Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.10.26 10:38:00 - [17] Originally by: Malka Badi'a PvErs. I swear to god it's like watching over talkative drunken monkeys fly. _______________________________________________ 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101 I will Conquer My Signature Somewhere in the future 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101
Boomershoot Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.10.27 00:10:00 - [18] Bump because Kador is a magnific region to canflip. so is Essence.
Nuts Nougat SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.10.27 01:18:00 - [19] There's a nice trick to can flipping: Once you're in the belt and the can is 10+km away turn on mwd, click on the MINER and hit approach. They're usually right next to their can. When you bump into him press stop or hit approach on the can. This will often bump him out of his 1500m range, and always leave you right on top of the can, giving you all the time in the world to do whatever you want with it. ---
Eschiava Q Minmatar Maximum Yarrage	Posted - 2008.10.27 01:46:00 - [20] Check This Out. Tristen Orde's guide to can flipping is a must read for can flippers new and old!

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