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Ithaca
Gallente Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2008.10.24 23:44:00 -
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OK so today was a fairly big day for game releases.
So i went off to my local game shop and dropped ú60 on Far Cry 2 and Dead Space.
Tomorrow I'm taking them back.
Firstly, Far Cry 2 didn't really appeal to me until i read the PC Gamer review. It sounded like a really good game with some interesting features. In actual fact its a brown looking sub par shooter. Firstly the graphics are nothing to rave about. Around HL2 standard i think but everything is a brown muddy colour. This make fighting annoying, as with the fog effect enemies disappear into the background and are difficult to see. They don't have a problem seeing you though and can easily get shots off at you with very good accuracy well beyond the ranges you can yourself. So i found myself thinking why am i playing this when i can get a better experience playing S.T.A.L.K.E.R. So uninstalled and installed Dead Space.
Dead Space is another that only recently got my attention. The graphics are very nice and the opening premise was interesting. Then i realised its not actually a FPS more of a over the shoulder person shooter. This makes the controls extremely difficult to master and the camera angles awkward. If you like set pieces every 5 mins you will love this game. It plays and feels very much like Gears of War which i never really got either.
Anyway, taking them back tomorrow and pre-ordering Fallout 3. Hopefully that wont suck. Otherwise I've gotta wait until Left 4 Dead to have any new FPS to play.
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Kyrall
A Few Killers
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Posted - 2008.10.25 00:35:00 -
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Edited by: Kyrall on 25/10/2008 00:44:22 Good luck taking them back: last I heard no game shops accept PC returns once opened.
Edit: I mean that literally, you really ought to be able to take back something if it sucks; it should be their fault for selling rubbish goods. It's just a shame that they will automatically assume that you installed them, downloaded no-CD cracks and now want your money back for free games. _____ Originally by: Ryysa,Pwett Why would you play Single Player when you have todays internet connectivity at your disposal? Pretty much the same reason why I don't play chess at a day-care.
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.10.25 00:43:00 -
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You should always get a demo/trial before buying a game.
Skills continue training even if you are logged off or if your account is inactive (in the second scenario you can't change skill tr |

Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2008.10.25 00:49:00 -
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There's one problem with returning Dead Space Ithaca, namely it is made by EA, in other words limited activations... You just used 1, making them effectively worthless. The other is by Ubisoft, which doesn't use that system yet I believe.
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MooKids
Caldari Dark Echo Engineering
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Posted - 2008.10.25 01:05:00 -
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You COULD try contacting the publishers and stating that you do not agree with the EULA and try to get your money back that way. It might work, however, you will be required to return the software and CD key, which would more than likely be deactivated.
Remember that PC Gamer tried this a couple months back with some success.
Also, everytime you buy an EA game, a puppy dies. |

Ithaca
Gallente Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2008.10.25 11:33:00 -
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Its not a problem. I just say they are faulty, and i am unwilling to wait until they fix it via patch.
If they want to get ****y i'll just take a credit note.
Here's Games policy:
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GAME operates a 28 day returns policy.
* Any software may be returned for refund or exchange within 28 days of the despatch date, providing that the seal remains unbroken on the software. * Faulty software where the seal has been broken may be returned up to 3 months after the despatch date. * Hardware or peripherals may be opened for the purpose of inspection (but not used) and may be returned for refund or exchange within 28 days of the despatch date (7 days for TVs). Please note that hardware must contain every component part (cables, memory sticks etc.) before it can be accepted as a return. * Faulty hardware may be returned for a like-for-like exchange up to 12 months after the despatch date. * This does not affect your statutory rights.
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Lafe
Baptism oF Fire
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Posted - 2008.10.25 11:43:00 -
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If you think Fallout 3 will be any more enjoyable, then you're headed for disappointment. At least based on the reviews. |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.10.25 16:10:00 -
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And now you see why BIG game companies hate "pirates"   
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VOTE YES TO SKILL QUEUE NOW !!! || Mission reward revamp || better nanofix |

Xtreem
Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.25 16:36:00 -
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im only just managing to hold myself down waiting for RA3, really need that to hurry up |

TU144 TEPPOPNCT'CMEPTHNK
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.10.25 18:44:00 -
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so the games you bought are sucky suck-suck and u dont want them...
ok
can i have them.....
Pleeassseee 
CCP made little baby jesus cry by nerfing ghost training
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.25 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Ithaca Its not a problem. I just say they are faulty, and i am unwilling to wait until they fix it via patch.
If they want to get ****y i'll just take a credit note.
If goods are faulty, you are entitled to a full refund under the sale of goods act. If they offer a credit note, you can refuse on the grounds that they have nothing else available that you want to buy. The shop cannot legally force you to take a credit note.
The most notable line in the Sale of Goods Act is: Goods must be fit for the purpose for which they are sold.
Therefore is a game is physically faulty or bugged and unplayable, it is not meeting the requirement of the act above. That means it only needs to be currently incompatible with your graphics card or such and requires a patch.
I'm not sure if this would extend to existing patches. IMO, a downloadable patch is not written to the original DVD and therefore does not constitute part of the game as it was sold to you. You should still be able to return it for a refund, even if there is a patch available to fix the problem. Unless it was physically part of the disk you agreed to purchase by handing over your cash, it cannot be included as part of the original contractual agreement. To add this clause to any sale agreement for software would imply that they expect every customer in the world to have an internet connection. It would then have to state on the box quite clearly that an internet connection is required, even if it is not an online game or application.
It's a point of law that would have to be ironed out but I'm sure most lawyers would have no problem with this.
-- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken. |

Zeonos
Amarr Silence of the LAMBS Imorral Dragons
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Posted - 2008.10.25 21:58:00 -
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thats pretty much the reason behind the fact that i download all games and play them before i buy them. its gives a bit more feel that a polished demo, and if i like it, i buy it. if not, well bad luck. maybe someone else like it..
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Ithaca
Gallente Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2008.10.26 01:04:00 -
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Shame the majority of games no longer have demos. |

Zeonos
Amarr Silence of the LAMBS Imorral Dragons
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Posted - 2008.10.26 01:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ithaca Shame the majority of games no longer have demos.
problem with demoes.
they are to short (most of them) they are polished to look good. yet they still have to many bugs. they don't give the full feel of a game. they are to short... and they are often limited. |

4nic8
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Posted - 2008.10.26 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Zeonos
Originally by: Ithaca Shame the majority of games no longer have demos.
problem with demoes.
they are to short (most of them) they are polished to look good. yet they still have to many bugs. they don't give the full feel of a game. they are to short... and they are often limited.
I agree, on the other hand demos are great and can be crafted into a minigame in their own right, like the starcraft one was. |

Zeonos
Amarr Silence of the LAMBS Imorral Dragons
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Posted - 2008.10.26 03:16:00 -
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ye. however, there still happen to come a proper demo once in a while, Crysis would be a good example of that. it gave a nice feel for the game, wasn't time limited, and gave a decent area to explore, and try out the game on.
and thats also one of the only games I¦ve brought lately, though i have lost my cd key + cd when i moved... |

Daelorn
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.10.26 03:58:00 -
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Edited by: Daelorn on 26/10/2008 04:06:22
Originally by: Ithaca
Firstly, Far Cry 2 didn't really appeal to me until i read the PC Gamer review. It sounded like a really good game with some interesting features. In actual fact its a brown looking sub par shooter. Firstly the graphics are nothing to rave about. Around HL2 standard i think but everything is a brown muddy colour. This make fighting annoying, as with the fog effect enemies disappear into the background and are difficult to see. They don't have a problem seeing you though and can easily get shots off at you with very good accuracy well beyond the ranges you can yourself. So i found myself thinking why am i playing this when i can get a better experience playing S.T.A.L.K.E.R. So uninstalled and installed Dead Space.
You're crazy thinking Far Cry 2's graphics are crappy. Really. But I have to agree them I'm disappointed with FC2 its not too crappy but its now where near as amazing as it was made out to be. Hopefully a patch or 14 will fix it.
Also HL2 vs FC2
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