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Warrio Southern Cross Incorporated Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.25 23:52:00 - [1] Local as an info tool: We want to put local in 0.0 as a delayed mode channel so only people who talk in the channel are shown. We are also looking at other alternatives but if we find nothing better this will be put in testing at least. From http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=905941&page=1#3 Will this truly happen? Could such a dream ever come true? Could gate camping become viable again as more than a deterrent? (Aside from to catch those ******s who don't travel with alt scouts.) Opinions: Will this ever be implemented?
Tobias Xiaosen Gallente The Perfect Storm The Red Skull	Posted - 2008.10.26 00:03:00 - [2] Looks like it could happen SoonÖ
Shigsy Heretic Militia	Posted - 2008.10.26 01:08:00 - [3] ok ye thats cool but that just makes advantage to pvper instead of pveer. a bit unbalanced and is BAD CHANGE. but thats just my opinion and every1 i speak to
Freudia Neuwahl Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.10.26 01:16:00 - [4] I would love for that to happen. Unfortunately, I think I fall into the minority with that viewpoint. :( --------- Internet Spaceships - Yet Another EVE Blog
Nexus Kinnon Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.26 01:21:00 - [5] Zulu said later on that that change would only be 0.0 I think.
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.10.26 01:41:00 - [6] change is good, anything that freshens up the game and causes new tactics and ways of fighting is good imo, I like it even tho I spent an inordinate amount of time carebearing in 0.0
Artemis Rose Varion Galactic Accord Corporate Enterprise Syndicate	Posted - 2008.10.26 03:05:00 - [7] I hope its for 0.0 only. Scanning 20 low sec systems to find nothing at all would be upsetting, to say the least. *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats
Wesdon Carline Amarr Mercantile Investments Novus Aevum	Posted - 2008.10.26 07:28:00 - [8] Originally by: Shigsy ok ye thats cool but that just makes advantage to pvper instead of pveer. a bit unbalanced and is BAD CHANGE. but thats just my opinion and every1 i speak to Frankly, PVP needs a buff. And this is loooong overdue, especially for 0.0
Shigsy Heretic Militia	Posted - 2008.10.26 11:19:00 - [9] Originally by: Wesdon Carline Originally by: Shigsy ok ye thats cool but that just makes advantage to pvper instead of pveer. a bit unbalanced and is BAD CHANGE. but thats just my opinion and every1 i speak to Frankly, PVP needs a buff. And this is loooong overdue, especially for 0.0 this is buff for griefers. they make enjoyment from game by attacking pve ers because they cant kill other pvpers because they are not good enough. this is not buff to pvp imo. buff to griefers.
Lord Windu Imperiosus Tutela	Posted - 2008.10.26 11:19:00 - [10] Originally by: Wesdon Carline Frankly, PVP needs a buff. And this is loooong overdue, especially for 0.0 If you think PvP need's a buff then your doing it wrong Sig coming Soon&trade

tennants super	Posted - 2008.10.26 11:25:00 - [11] Originally by: Shigsy ok ye thats cool but that just makes advantage to pvper instead of pveer. a bit unbalanced and is BAD CHANGE. but thats just my opinion and every1 i speak to you say that like if it was advantage pveer it would be a GOOD CHANGE. and perhaps you only ever talk to the bears? oh wait, isnt that what ccp have been doing for the last 3 years?
Dihania Gallente SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.10.26 11:43:00 - [12] If you read through that you will find Zulupark(sp?) referring to null security space. This will apply only to 0.0 and would make sense : 1. it's a delay - eventually you do show up. but just maybe you have time to run a scan and do a warp. 2. 0.0 is safe enough for smart people - you can carebear in a system without any risk for months! (bs + cloak anyone?) With the current system an attacking force will kill only people not watching local or afk in places they should not be afking. Than end up face to face with the defending force, most fo the cases a blob. [hrhr] Sniggwaffe is recruiting. Visit channel "join sniggwaffe" in game.
ShadowMaiden Amarr Metal Machine	Posted - 2008.10.26 11:47:00 - [13] Pity it can't be for high and low-sec too. I've long maintained that local should be announcement only - easily balanced by making constellation immediate. However, the flip side is , it will make alliances have to actually do some work for a change - perhaps we might even see an end to this ridiculous NRDS faffing that has turned certain null-sec regions into fluffy carebear playpens. Just the station hugging to sort next... I wish I was a 3ft Doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes
Benedic The Aftermath	Posted - 2008.10.26 13:22:00 - [14] I wonder how long it'll take the macro writers to write a screen sc****r that auto ctrl-qs when any ship/probe shows up on scan.
mamolian Madhatters Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.26 14:16:00 - [15] Originally by: Lord Windu Originally by: Wesdon Carline Frankly, PVP needs a buff. And this is loooong overdue, especially for 0.0 If you think PvP need's a buff then your doing it wrong Local has never been an issue for me to find targets.. So dunno what the **** the rest of you idiots are doing wrong..
Malka Badi'a Suffoco Noctis	Posted - 2008.10.26 14:20:00 - [16] I, for one, welcome our new Scan Probe overlords.
Sanka Cofie Amarr Fractured Core	Posted - 2008.10.26 14:23:00 - [17] Originally by: Shigsy this is buff for griefers. they make enjoyment from game by attacking pve ers because they cant kill other pvpers because they are not good enough. this is not buff to pvp imo. buff to griefers. I have a few questions for you: 1. Why is it that people label anyone who kills them a griefer? 2. Why is it that you want to play a MMO with no risk in it? What enjoyment does shooting at NPCs give you? Do you get a rush NPCing in highsec where nobody can hurt you? Do you love the challenge of just pointing and clicking? 3. Couldn't you just download an offline NPC-killing game and click click click to your hearts content with no worry of PVP? Call it EVE The BeltRat Killing Experience. 4. Are you a macro? If not how do you feel about the fact that the average chinese player can open a program on their desktop which plays the game better than you? NON-CONSENTUAL PVP MAKES THE GAME FUN! And I say that as a dyed-in-the-wool super-fuzzy carebear.
Malka Badi'a Suffoco Noctis	Posted - 2008.10.26 14:29:00 - [18] Originally by: Sanka Cofie Originally by: Shigsy this is buff for griefers. they make enjoyment from game by attacking pve ers because they cant kill other pvpers because they are not good enough. this is not buff to pvp imo. buff to griefers. I have a few questions for you: 1. Why is it that people label anyone who kills them a griefer? 2. Why is it that you want to play a MMO with no risk in it? What enjoyment does shooting at NPCs give you? Do you get a rush NPCing in highsec where nobody can hurt you? Do you love the challenge of just pointing and clicking? 3. Couldn't you just download an offline NPC-killing game and click click click to your hearts content with no worry of PVP? Call it EVE The BeltRat Killing Experience. 4. Are you a macro? If not how do you feel about the fact that the average chinese player can open a program on their desktop which plays the game better than you? NON-CONSENTUAL PVP MAKES THE GAME FUN! And I say that as a dyed-in-the-wool super-fuzzy carebear. Have sex with me.
Nexus Kinnon Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.26 14:38:00 - [19] no shigsy is rite u know. why shuld we make eVe online easier for griefers wen its already hard enoufh for honest people workin for a livin in high sec??
Amaris Echitase	Posted - 2008.10.26 16:50:00 - [20] Edited by: Amaris Echitase on 26/10/2008 16:51:06 Originally by: Nexus Kinnon no shigsy is rite u know. why shuld we make eVe online easier for griefers wen its already hard enoufh for honest people workin for a livin in high sec?? I would tend to agree with Shigsy as well. One way to make it less of a "griefer" tool would be to have local count active(just the number in system) and have the the display of who is in system delayed. This would enable the vigilant PVE'r a chance to flee and those who don't are "fair game". All people would know is someone came into the system but not who (friendly, enemy, whatever). This would have merit to everyone as the PVE'r will see a new contact on, say call it long range scans, but would know if it is someone transitting to the next gate or a hostile. Likewise for PVP'rs would know there is a person in system a soft target or a battle-hardened adversary. The only people that probably wouldn't like it would be the "griefers". You know the ones that war dec mining corps but scatter and flee from their corp if someone with a combat ship wardecs them? ...ya those people edit: speeling

Sanka Cofie Amarr Fractured Core	Posted - 2008.10.26 17:10:00 - [21] Originally by: Amaris Echitase Edited by: Amaris Echitase on 26/10/2008 16:51:06 Originally by: Nexus Kinnon no shigsy is rite u know. why shuld we make eVe online easier for griefers wen its already hard enoufh for honest people workin for a livin in high sec?? I would tend to agree with Shigsy as well. Train Sarcasm Detection to Level 5 and you can train LoLPost Avoidance. It increases Forum Perception. Alternatively Eifyr and Co. Haveaclue-5000 Implants have +3 to the same effect. ~-~-~-~-~ -[WillChat4ISK]- I can be the handsome Amarr space captain. You can be the helpless Minmatar slave girl.
Nexus Kinnon Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.26 17:15:00 - [22] Originally by: Sanka Cofie Originally by: Amaris Echitase Edited by: Amaris Echitase on 26/10/2008 16:51:06 Originally by: Nexus Kinnon no shigsy is rite u know. why shuld we make eVe online easier for griefers wen its already hard enoufh for honest people workin for a livin in high sec?? I would tend to agree with Shigsy as well. Train Sarcasm Detection to Level 5 and you can train LoLPost Avoidance. It increases Forum Perception. Alternatively Eifyr and Co. Haveaclue-5000 Implants have +3 to the same effect. Quotin cos this post is pretty funny given that you got trolled by Shigsy a few posts up.
Sanka Cofie Amarr Fractured Core	Posted - 2008.10.26 17:38:00 - [23] Edited by: Sanka Cofie on 26/10/2008 17:38:30 FACEPALM At least I have Irony Acceptance trained sufficiently to appreciate this. ~-~-~-~-~ -[WillChat4ISK]- I can be the handsome Amarr space captain. You can be the helpless Minmatar slave girl.
Amaris Echitase	Posted - 2008.10.26 17:59:00 - [24] Originally by: Sanka Cofie Train Sarcasm Detection to Level 5 and you can train LoLPost Avoidance. It increases Forum Perception. Alternatively Eifyr and Co. Haveaclue-5000 Implants have +3 to the same effect. I'd have to admit, I have no social skills trained whatsoever. Yes I suck at rl too
Nhi'Khuna Black Serpent Technologies Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.10.27 04:42:00 - [25] Originally by: Malka Badi'a Originally by: Sanka Cofie Originally by: Shigsy this is buff for griefers. they make enjoyment from game by attacking pve ers because they cant kill other pvpers because they are not good enough. this is not buff to pvp imo. buff to griefers. I have a few questions for you: 1. Why is it that people label anyone who kills them a griefer? 2. Why is it that you want to play a MMO with no risk in it? What enjoyment does shooting at NPCs give you? Do you get a rush NPCing in highsec where nobody can hurt you? Do you love the challenge of just pointing and clicking? 3. Couldn't you just download an offline NPC-killing game and click click click to your hearts content with no worry of PVP? Call it EVE The BeltRat Killing Experience. 4. Are you a macro? If not how do you feel about the fact that the average chinese player can open a program on their desktop which plays the game better than you? NON-CONSENTUAL PVP MAKES THE GAME FUN! And I say that as a dyed-in-the-wool super-fuzzy carebear. Have sex with me. Hell, I'll have sex with you! Back in the day when I was a nubbin pirate I read every post I could of yours, your pvp style was the quintessential inspiration for my turning to the dark side. :)
Gordon Marinius Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.27 06:16:00 - [26] Seems what the OP is looking for is a buff to ganking. Not pvp. If it's pvp you're after then you can go into a 0.0 system and find 9 pirates in there then start hunting them one at a time. That's pvp. Something that the current system actualy helps.
Theodore Calvin Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.10.27 11:53:00 - [27] I dont think it will benefit either PVE or PVP if they make that change.
Malcanis RuffRyders Eradication Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.27 12:51:00 - [28] Originally by: Shigsy ok ye thats cool but that just makes advantage to pvper instead of pveer. a bit unbalanced and is BAD CHANGE. but thats just my opinion and every1 i speak to Why? because only PvPers are able to use scanners?
Malcanis RuffRyders Eradication Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.27 12:52:00 - [29] Edited by: Malcanis on 27/10/2008 12:52:36 Originally by: Gordon Marinius Seems what the OP is looking for is a buff to ganking. Not pvp. If it's pvp you're after then you can go into a 0.0 system and find 9 pirates in there who immediately dock/safe up, so you can spend 3 hours camping the station/gate, smacking in local. That's PvP Something the current system actualy helps. Fixed.
sue AGPlant Minmatar Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.27 13:12:00 - [30] now in theory I love this idea. But. in reality 0.0 is sparsly populated at best and most systems have tons of empty ships just floating around to make scanning harder when you know someone is in system. I suspect all this will do is cause people to throw up evemn more junk put ravens inside deathstars to throw you off the scent etc so that ether you will miss out on some good killz because there is just way too maby "people" to wade through to find that nice jucy 1/2 sleeping ratter.



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