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Avogardro
Gallente The Businessmen
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Posted - 2008.10.26 06:53:00 -
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Edited by: Avogardro on 26/10/2008 06:53:40 what I have is this:
4 med slots 8 low slots
repair systems 4 mechanic 3 hull upgrades 2
looking for something for lv 4 missions, but mostly lv 3 solo. also money is no problem if I need faction mods or anything, just tell me what the best I can have with these skills would be, thanks.
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Artemis Rose
Varion Galactic Accord Corporate Enterprise Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.10.26 07:28:00 -
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First. Make sure to always have atleast 2 damage mods (Mag stabs) in your lows for all your mission setups. You have plenty of lows.
Ouch on your Hull Upgrades skill. You should get it to V ASAP as well as Mechanic V for T2 goodies. As far as a tank
1x Named Large Armor Rep (I don't recommend having two reppers, you may want to have them in the beginning however while you learn) 2x N-Type Primary dmg type armor Hardeners 2x N-Type Secondary dmg type armor Hardeners
Pack your mids with cap rechargers. Scale back into more tracking computers/afterburners/webs when you get more comfortable.
*** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |
Avogardro
Gallente The Businessmen
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Posted - 2008.10.26 07:40:00 -
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which damage types should I have in there for hardeners? is there a way to tell what types I will need for a mission?
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CrayC
Gallente CrayC Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.26 08:38:00 -
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Ah, the wonders of having enough cash to buy a frekkin expensive ships, but not the experience or skills to fit it right... Gotta love that |
Akuma Tsukai
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.10.26 08:53:00 -
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just tell me when u mission and where ---- Drones eat everything. Trust me. |
Solomunio Kzenig
Amarr VITOC
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Posted - 2008.10.26 10:06:00 -
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You have a Navy Mega and 1. Don't know how to fit it and 2. want to run Lvl3 missions in it? E-bay much?
OK i'll give you the benifit of the doubt and assume that you purchased ISK using the approved GTC method and not from ISK sellers. 1st off Mega is sub-par for Lvl3 missions; they mostly have Cruiser and frigate sized rats so battleship sized guns will sometimes have difficulties hitting them, you are better off in a Battlecruiser for Lvl3 missions. But if you must use your shiney Navy Mega (casue your soo L33t ) then fit 1 or 2 Tracking Comps in the mids to help you hit the smaller ships and allways try and 'kite' the NPC's i.e. move away from them 1st before engaging them and allways move away from them while engaging them.
2nd you will be armor tanking and your skills sux tbh. Get Repair Systems, Mechanic and Hull Upgrades to V asap and then get EM, Explosive, Thermal and Kinetic Armor Compensation skills to V. Then you will have the basis for a decent passive armor tank for mission running.
Other than that i'd recomend using agents located in Low Sec as they give better rewards .
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Avogardro
Gallente The Businessmen
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Posted - 2008.10.26 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Solomunio Kzenig You have a Navy Mega and 1. Don't know how to fit it and 2. want to run Lvl3 missions in it? E-bay much?
OK i'll give you the benifit of the doubt and assume that you purchased ISK using the approved GTC method and not from ISK sellers. 1st off Mega is sub-par for Lvl3 missions; they mostly have Cruiser and frigate sized rats so battleship sized guns will sometimes have difficulties hitting them, you are better off in a Battlecruiser for Lvl3 missions. But if you must use your shiney Navy Mega (casue your soo L33t ) then fit 1 or 2 Tracking Comps in the mids to help you hit the smaller ships and allways try and 'kite' the NPC's i.e. move away from them 1st before engaging them and allways move away from them while engaging them.
2nd you will be armor tanking and your skills sux tbh. Get Repair Systems, Mechanic and Hull Upgrades to V asap and then get EM, Explosive, Thermal and Kinetic Armor Compensation skills to V. Then you will have the basis for a decent passive armor tank for mission running.
Other than that i'd recomend using agents located in Low Sec as they give better rewards .
check my posts and you can see I didnt buy anything from ebay, just new and sold some GTCs |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2008.10.26 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Avogardro which damage types should I have in there for hardeners? is there a way to tell what types I will need for a mission?
Eve Survival give you the basic rundown for damage types and strategies. When you accept a mission it will show the corporation tag of whatever you will be fighting, like say Serpentis.
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2008.10.26 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Avogardro which damage types should I have in there for hardeners? is there a way to tell what types I will need for a mission?
EVE-Geek NPC damage table
You can usually see what faction the enemies in a mission belong to by either reading the briefing (but that doesn't always state who it is) or by looking at the logo next to the destination in the briefing view. Not all missions show who the enemy is, but for those (and other handy hints) you could try a site like EVE-survival. Where you can find most missions by level and name. (note, both sites work ingame, so no need to alt-tab between them and the game, just bookmark them in the internal browser)
As for the hardeners to use, the two highest values in the NPC damage table usually do the trick. Some NPC types will appear to do all damage types (usually Mercenaries or Angels) but the mission description on EVE-survival comes in handy here.
Angels are minmatar based, so explosive tends to be their primary. Mercenaries are a bit trickier as their main damage depends on the ships present.
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Onezen
Gallente BEER Inc. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.26 11:26:00 -
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My advice is to get those skills to 5 (Hull upgrades; repair systems and mechanic) ASAP.
While these are training dock the Mega and get a Myrmidon and run lvl 3's in it to get yourself acclimated to running moderately risky missions. Learn what hardeners to run for what type of rats in the missions.
Once those skills are up to 5 and you can use T2 DCU's, Reppers and hardeners then try the Mega. on lvl 4's.
Don't be in such a rush or you could find yourself getting overconfident with lackluster skills in critical areas and you might lose your Mega in a tough lvl 4 if you're not carefull.
Experience useing high lvl skills becomes critical in several lvl. 4 missions.
I used to run lvl 4's in a T2 fit Dom. so I know of what I speak. |
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spud maur
Gallente IBF2
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Posted - 2008.10.26 12:14:00 -
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tbh you are not ready for a Battlship, but here is what you need at a min Mechanic V Reparsystms iv Hull upgrades II Electronics V Engineer V
now you defo need these ones at V
Energy systems operation V Energy manegmet V Energy Grid upgradeds V ( lvl iv will do)
i taught i was ready for a battle ship when i got my Domi and i almost lost it on a lvl 3 because it was slow and and i couldnt run evry thing now i can run a dual repping domi with out any hassle with my energy skills.
now this is what i have on my Navy Mega
Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Magnetic Vortex Stabilizer Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Corpus C-Type Large Armor Repairer Damage Control II
Shadow Serpentis 100MN Afterburner Sensor Booster II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L 'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile 'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Ogre I x5
i can Fit 2 cruse launchers when i get around to skilling it up but for now this is my Mega thron set up. now put it away until you have them skills and get a Myrmidon and run lvl 3s in that
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Ralara
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.10.26 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Avogardro
Originally by: Solomunio Kzenig You have a Navy Mega and 1. Don't know how to fit it and 2. want to run Lvl3 missions in it? E-bay much?
OK i'll give you the benifit of the doubt and assume that you purchased ISK using the approved GTC method and not from ISK sellers. 1st off Mega is sub-par for Lvl3 missions; they mostly have Cruiser and frigate sized rats so battleship sized guns will sometimes have difficulties hitting them, you are better off in a Battlecruiser for Lvl3 missions. But if you must use your shiney Navy Mega (casue your soo L33t ) then fit 1 or 2 Tracking Comps in the mids to help you hit the smaller ships and allways try and 'kite' the NPC's i.e. move away from them 1st before engaging them and allways move away from them while engaging them.
2nd you will be armor tanking and your skills sux tbh. Get Repair Systems, Mechanic and Hull Upgrades to V asap and then get EM, Explosive, Thermal and Kinetic Armor Compensation skills to V. Then you will have the basis for a decent passive armor tank for mission running.
Other than that i'd recomend using agents located in Low Sec as they give better rewards .
check my posts and you can see I didnt buy anything from ebay, just new and sold some GTCs
Firstly, that isn't "cool", it's fking stupid.
Secondly, the Mega is not very good for level 3 missions. You'd be better off in a rail-brutix or a myrmidon (as in, the missions will go faster; the mega's guns are too big for the small rats you encounter there). Or, if you really have to use a battleship, the Dominix would do nicely.
But go, waste your RL money; you'll lose your ship in a level 3 with those skills I can assure you. And then maybe you'll quit. |
Davina Braben
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Posted - 2008.10.26 12:41:00 -
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Stick to L3 missions in a BC until you've got some idea how to fit that ship and the skills to do so.
When you're not losing ships any more get back to flying a rigged faction BS in L4 missions.
A poorly skilled and equipped ship is just a big slow target. |
Lisento Slaven
Amarr The Drekla Consortium
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Posted - 2008.10.26 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ralara You'd be better off in a rail-brutix or a myrmidon (as in, the missions will go faster; the mega's guns are too big for the small rats you encounter there). Or, if you really have to use a battleship, the Dominix would do nicely.
Dominix would work good.
But just put cruiser turrets on your Mega and you'll have no problem hitting the stuff in level 3's. Some people forget you can put any guns you want on a ship.
Case and point: Level 3's are beyond easy in an Armageddon with cruiser size pulse turrets. And putting a perma-running tank on an armageddon (for level 3's) isn't all that difficult.
Typical tanks for missions are 2x Repairers and 4x Armor Hardener. Hope that helps a little to the original poster. Wish I had some spare cash at the moment to sell a gtc or two. But alas...no one can anticipate silly medical things =P |
Ralara
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.10.26 17:32:00 -
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Edited by: Ralara on 26/10/2008 17:33:17
Originally by: Lisento Slaven
But just put cruiser turrets on your Mega and you'll have no problem hitting the stuff in level 3's. Some people forget you can put any guns you want on a ship.
Yeah.. you can, but why? What's the point in putting 7 medium guns on a mega when it gets no bonuses to it? Shove them on a Ferox or a Brutix instead, which DO get bonuses to medium hybrids; which will do more damage, finish the mi... oh why bother.
Let's go fit Assault Launchers on a Raven.
Let's go fit small blasters on a Tempest.
Let's go put 6 Large Amour Reps on a Thanatos. --
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Foulque
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Posted - 2008.10.26 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ralara Firstly, that isn't "cool", it's fking stupid.
Yup |
Felix Dzerzhinsky
Caldari Wreckless Abandon G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.10.26 20:41:00 -
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When you start using that in some good pvp - then your using the ship for what its ment to do. The Domi runs level 3s much better then the Mega does - the Mega is a pvp ship. . .its not even a matter of better - its a matter of sense.
Get T2 medium and light drones. . .thats whats really doing the work for L3s. ----
ECCM is a Counter-measure not a defense. |
Avogardro
Gallente The Businessmen
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Posted - 2008.10.26 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ralara
Originally by: Avogardro
Originally by: Solomunio Kzenig You have a Navy Mega and 1. Don't know how to fit it and 2. want to run Lvl3 missions in it? E-bay much?
OK i'll give you the benifit of the doubt and assume that you purchased ISK using the approved GTC method and not from ISK sellers. 1st off Mega is sub-par for Lvl3 missions; they mostly have Cruiser and frigate sized rats so battleship sized guns will sometimes have difficulties hitting them, you are better off in a Battlecruiser for Lvl3 missions. But if you must use your shiney Navy Mega (casue your soo L33t ) then fit 1 or 2 Tracking Comps in the mids to help you hit the smaller ships and allways try and 'kite' the NPC's i.e. move away from them 1st before engaging them and allways move away from them while engaging them.
2nd you will be armor tanking and your skills sux tbh. Get Repair Systems, Mechanic and Hull Upgrades to V asap and then get EM, Explosive, Thermal and Kinetic Armor Compensation skills to V. Then you will have the basis for a decent passive armor tank for mission running.
Other than that i'd recomend using agents located in Low Sec as they give better rewards .
check my posts and you can see I didnt buy anything from ebay, just new and sold some GTCs
Firstly, that isn't "cool", it's fking stupid.
Secondly, the Mega is not very good for level 3 missions. You'd be better off in a rail-brutix or a myrmidon (as in, the missions will go faster; the mega's guns are too big for the small rats you encounter there). Or, if you really have to use a battleship, the Dominix would do nicely.
But go, waste your RL money; you'll lose your ship in a level 3 with those skills I can assure you. And then maybe you'll quit.
dont have $35 to spend on a game you like? Must not have been able to sell game cards when you started, I dunno. seems like you have a little jealousy, because you're an idiot if you would pass up selling a game card for 550 mil when you start a game especially if it's legal to do.
------ I'm a man of two words... any questions? |
Ralara
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.10.26 21:28:00 -
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Edited by: Ralara on 26/10/2008 21:29:21
Originally by: Avogardro
dont have $35 to spend on a game you like? Must not have been able to sell game cards when you started, I dunno. seems like you have a little jealousy, because you're an idiot if you would pass up selling a game card for 550 mil when you start a game especially if it's legal to do.
I prefer to advance in game on my own in-game merits rather than rely on out of game resources, thanks.
I don't buy or sell GTC, I don't buy or sell characters and I have my own opinions regarding those who do. --
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Foulque
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Posted - 2008.10.26 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: Avogardro dont have $35 to spend on a game you like? Must not have been able to sell game cards when you started, I dunno. seems like you have a little jealousy, because you're an idiot if you would pass up selling a game card for 550 mil when you start a game especially if it's legal to do.
What exactly is the benefit of paying RL $ to be able to afford ships in game that you don't have nearly the skills to actually fly and have fun with. Aside from the point that you've used those GTC to fund a ship intended to carebear anyway, spend isk for the priveledge to grind it back?
Eve is about progression, racing into ships you cant fly by lack of skill points or experience is just a recipe for tears and lolmails.
Get a cruiser and make your own way up, you'll enjoy it more in the end anyway. |
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Amelia O
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Posted - 2008.10.26 22:22:00 -
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well , its his internetZ and his moneyZ so let the guy be happy on his decisions.
Telling people what they should consider fun, what they shouldnt spend their money on or what is being "honorable"? heheh , NAH. If he's getting some fun , good for him, let it be.
I wouldnt sell GTC for isk money neither , I like progressing on my own , but whatever. |
Ralara
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.10.26 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Amelia O well , its his internetZ and his moneyZ so let the guy be happy on his decisions.
Telling people what they should consider fun, what they shouldnt spend their money on or what is being "honorable"? heheh , NAH. If he's getting some fun , good for him, let it be.
I wouldnt sell GTC for isk money neither , I like progressing on my own , but whatever.
Mmm, well that aside, he's spent his money/isk on a ship that he doesn't know how to fit or fly and it's the wrong one for its intended purpose.
I don't get some people; like, there was a post here a couple of days ago about how someone had trained up for Interdictors, bought one etc, but then said what does it do; they didn't know what an interdiction sphere was.
How does that work? |
Amelia O
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Posted - 2008.10.26 22:58:00 -
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yeah , I agree its not the best ship for lvl3 missions, he should be flying a battlecruiser/etc. Its a REAL WASTE IMO.
But its not like he's going to die or get his pc destroyed if he used his megathron on a lvl 3 mission if he really wanted to.
I just don't understand why you are ****ed about it >.> , its not like he's affecting you in any way, I'm laughing inside at his topic to be honest.
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Ze4K DK
Gallente UK1 Zero G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.10.26 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: Avogardro Edited by: Avogardro on 26/10/2008 07:10:55 what I have is this:
megathron navy issue 8 high slots 4 med slots 8 low slots
3 capacitor control circuits
repair systems 4 mechanic 3 hull upgrades 2 energy grid upgrades 2
looking for something for lv 4 missions, but mostly lv 3 solo. also if I need faction mods I can get them, but no officer or deadspace mods, just tell me what the best I can have with these skills would be, thanks.
Ehm... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! |
Ralara
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.10.27 07:26:00 -
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Edited by: Ralara on 27/10/2008 07:27:15
Originally by: Amelia O
But its not like he's going to die or get his pc destroyed if he used his megathron on a lvl 3 mission if he really wanted to.
No, obviously :p
But he will stand a very good chance of losing it with those skills; When I was training my alt for a carrier I did some level 3s in the background just for the extra isk and there are a few Level 3s that pushed the Dommi a little bit. That said, I wasn't paying attention; I just got full stage aggression and then released the drones; armour at one point went to 20% because my Ogres were too busy chasing frigates for 30 minutes and not hitting them
Now my dommi at the time had a tech 2 tank (well, everything was tech 2 on it, I guess) and I wasn't using rigs but my skills in those areas are high; his most definitely are not. It's a very expensive ship to lose and that scenario is very possible with his level of skills and experience.
You can see from his post that he's willing to throw RL money at the ship to fit it with faction fittings "now" (his words!) and he wants to take it on level 4s; he'll get scrambled and killed within minutes.
However, it's his real life money to waste/spend as he sees fit I guess. I just hope that credit card has a high limit on it |
Fifi LeFume
Infestation. R.U.R.
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Posted - 2008.10.27 17:20:00 -
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i hope it explodes
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Jach Wong
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Posted - 2008.10.27 19:48:00 -
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I'm going to hell for this, but if you want to use a Navy Megathron in level 3 missions, you really want to fit 250mm rails. BS grade rails simply won't be able to hit most cruisers in a level 3, and blasters haven't the range for pesky rats orbiting at 25km. If you have drone skills, pack a horde of hobgoblins.
Really though, you'd be better off in level 3s with a Myrmidon or Brutix. "This is not the boot you're looking for." |
Cyonix Maur
Caldari IBF2
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Posted - 2008.10.27 20:04:00 -
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ill proly get murdered for my resposne but meh..
why does evry one have to moan about what he spent his money on so what he sold a GTC for isk Alot of people do it, so why dont you guys help him out with fittings and what skills he should learn before using such a ship, i may not be teh best pilot but i had to learn some place i got teh same reaction whan i asked how to tank a Navy vexor now thats not an issue, what should be done here is help the guy not moan about it,
ok u can flame me now.
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Ralara
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.10.28 09:25:00 -
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Edited by: Ralara on 28/10/2008 09:27:13
Originally by: Cyonix Maur ill proly get murdered for my resposne but meh..
why does evry one have to moan about what he spent his money on so what he sold a GTC for isk Alot of people do it, so why dont you guys help him out with fittings and what skills he should learn before using such a ship, i may not be teh best pilot but i had to learn some place i got teh same reaction whan i asked how to tank a Navy vexor now thats not an issue, what should be done here is help the guy not moan about it,
ok u can flame me now.
we ARE helping him; we're saying it'll be faster, cheaper and more efficient to do it in a battlecruiser because at the skills he has, his navy megathron (and all that isk / RL money) is going to EXPLODE and even on the off chance that it doesn't, the guns of a navy mega (425mms or 350mms) are worse at hitting frigates/cruisers than 250mms which would go on a brutix (or Ferox, I guess).
Doing level 3s in a BC with his skills is:
1) Faster 2) More efficient 3) Less risk 4) Less expensive when it blows up
Doing level 3s (or 4s) in a navy mega with his skills is:
1) Slower 2) Less efficient 3) Incredibly dangerous 5) Very expensive when it blows up
That advice is not wrong. It's not advice he wants to hear, but that's his problem. |
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