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Samroski
Games Inc. EVE Trade Consortium
47
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Posted - 2012.04.05 14:37:00 -
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Johnny Frecko wrote:Big no at viewing other regions.
when most people will get an alt dedicated to that skill alone, in around 6 months you've got everyone(who can) with that skill. making it a mandatory thing to be competetive, instead of a bonus.
just like the learning skills etc. I see what you mean, though some traders may not be interested in this information and may not train the (expensive) skill. Those who are interested, currently get the info using alts/other players or external sites. Better to keep it this way?
Also: Characters trained for all-region market info would do deliciously well on the Character Bazaar :) |

Tri Yson
Captains of Industry
0
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Posted - 2012.04.05 14:58:00 -
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Rense wrote:Fix the most recent day's invalid data in the graph in price history.
Overhaul the price history graphs to include usable real world technical indicators. I'd like at least the following :
MACD (Moving Average Convergence Divergence) - allow custom short, long, and EMA period RSI (Relative Strength Index) - allow custom period ADX (Average Directional Index) SMA (Simple Moving Average) - allow custom period EMA (Exponential Moving Average) - allow custom period Williams %R - allow custom period FSTO (Fast Stochastic Oscillator) - allow custom K period, custom D period SSTO (Slow Stochastic Oscillator) - allow custom K period, custom D period I didn't think anyone made serious speculative plays in eve. That's interesting.
Option to limit buy orders on sec status, or if not limit, then set individual price brackets based on sec status (high | low | null).
If I'm freighting in null or low, I want to do it at a good price.
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Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:52:00 -
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Gilbaron wrote:big no to anything serverside
please keep it clientside with easy import/export What would be the problem with serverside with easy import/export tool for thrid party apps and exchanging settings and shorlists and such across chars and accounts?
Also: colorcoding plz. The ppl arguing against it are the same kind of ppl that protested the grouping of weapons cuz that would dumb down the game :P
Edit:
Also: an expansion that focusses on trading? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! What have you been smoking and where can I get some? |

Zaxix
Black Frog Logistics Red-Frog
52
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Posted - 2012.04.05 17:18:00 -
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I would like to see the ability to give people things without having to contract them or use trade windows. For example, I have a package with a freight container inside it in Rens, I am sitting in Jita, and one of my corpmates happens to be passing through Rens. I want to give him the package. I can't contract it, because it has a can in it. I don't want to travel to Rens for the trade window. This feature would allow us to use dispatch logistical models at the corp or alliance level. Red Frog--Hisec Courier Black Frog--Losec/Nosec Courier
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Xaqa
Cryptic Arch
1
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Posted - 2012.04.07 18:36:00 -
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Dirk Decibel wrote: Also: an expansion that focusses on trading? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! What have you been smoking and where can I get some?
I have a dream... Cheers |

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
538
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Posted - 2012.04.07 18:42:00 -
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A skill above tycoon so I can do more. |

Xaqa
Cryptic Arch
1
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Posted - 2012.04.08 02:17:00 -
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updated good stuff keep it coming Cheers |

Ben Bernank
The Goldman Sachs
0
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Posted - 2012.04.08 02:44:00 -
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Color coding your orders on the market listing would be kind of neat. It would be cool to make a "bond" kind of contract, where party A puts up item or isk collateral in exchange for isk from party B, with an amount of interest to bill party A each time period, and then a custom time period. If the bill went unpaid the collateral would get turned over. **** would be cache.
Those wanting an indicator for margin scams need look at the "min volume".... and to not be f-ing idiots when they see free isk. |

TheSmokingHertog
Black Hole INC
22
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Posted - 2012.04.08 06:11:00 -
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Primaries
- Make a regional select box within orders overview, so you can see the orders of a certain region, including, "current region".
- Make it possible to PAGE DOWN / PAGE UP within the orders overview.
- Make it possible to adjust an order within the overview tab of the market item, I know which orders are mine, so does the client, so why is the edit menu not available within this overview?
Good secundairies
- Show the number of available contracts while you are within the contracts wizzard.
- Make it possible to add a discription in Courier Contracts (CoCo) with double clicking a form field to see its history, just like in webbrowsers.
- When creating a CoCo you have to enter a destination within the destionation field. The case for me is, that I have all my trade locations added to locations on the station level. These stations I would like to drop into the field when creating a CoCo, so I dont have to search the correct station, it would save a lot of time on creating a CoCo.
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YuuKnow
The Long Kiss Goodnight
180
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Posted - 2012.04.08 19:39:00 -
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The OP has some great ideas. I especially like the ones below
Quote: GÇóColor coding market orders GÇóSelection of multiple orders for cancellation, etc GÇóCreation of folders within the market orders window GÇóModification of the range, expiration, and quantity of existing orders GÇóPrice history: show the quantity of sells/buys GÇóPrice history: a filter for stations
I especially like the Price history by stations. Also price history by solar system would be nice too.
yk |

Lijhal
Innoruuks Wrath
9
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Posted - 2012.04.08 20:35:00 -
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i need a new badass graph for my market pvp... something what is worth of being implemented into eve online!
it should contain most of the charting terms and indicators and at least the option to turn indicators on/off
Concepts
Resistance GÇö a price level that may prompt a net increase of selling activity
Support GÇö a price level that may prompt a net increase of buying activity
Breakout GÇö the concept whereby prices forcefully penetrate an area of prior support or resistance, usually, but not always, accompanied by an increase in volume.
Trending GÇö the phenomenon by which price movement tends to persist in one direction for an extended period of time
Average true range GÇö averaged daily trading range, adjusted for price gaps
Chart pattern GÇö distinctive pattern created by the movement of security prices on a chart
Dead cat bounce GÇö the phenomenon whereby a spectacular decline in the price of a stock is immediately followed by a moderate and temporary rise before resuming its downward movement
Elliott wave principle and the golden ratio to calculate successive price movements and retracements
Fibonacci ratios GÇö used as a guide to determine support and resistance
Momentum GÇö the rate of price change
Point and figure analysis GÇö A priced-based analytical approach employing numerical filters which may incorporate time references, though ignores time entirely in its construction.
Cycles GÇö time targets for potential change in price action (price only moves up, down, or sideways) Market Condition GÇö the state of price movement as being in a state of range expansion or a range contraction.
Types of charts
Open-high-low-close chart GÇö OHLC charts, also known as bar charts, plot the span between the high and low prices of a trading period as a vertical line segment at the trading time, and the open and close prices with horizontal tick marks on the range line, usually a tick to the left for the open price and a tick to the right for the closing price.
Candlestick chart GÇö Of Japanese origin and similar to OHLC, candlesticks widen and fill the interval between the open and close prices to emphasize the open/close relationship. In the West, often black or red candle bodies represent a close lower than the open, while white, green or blue candles represent a close higher than the open price.
Line chart GÇö Connects the closing price values with line segments.
Point and figure chart GÇö a chart type employing numerical filters with only passing references to time, and which ignores time entirely in its construction.
Overlays Overlays are generally superimposed over the main price chart.
Resistance GÇö a price level that may act as a ceiling above price
Support GÇö a price level that may act as a floor below price
Trend line GÇö a sloping line described by at least two peaks or two troughs
Channel GÇö a pair of parallel trend lines
Moving average GÇö the last n-bars of price divided by "n" -- where "n" is the number of bars specified by the length of the average. A moving average can be thought of as a kind of dynamic trend-line.
Bollinger bands GÇö a range of price volatility
Parabolic SAR GÇö Wilder's trailing stop based on prices tending to stay within a parabolic curve during a strong trend
Pivot point GÇö derived by calculating the numerical average of a particular currency's or stock's high, low and closing prices
Ichimoku kinko hyo GÇö a moving average-based system that factors in time and the average point between a candle's high and low
Price-based indicators These indicators are generally shown below or above the main price chart.
Average Directional Index GÇö a widely used indicator of trend strength
Commodity Channel Index GÇö identifies cyclical trends
MACD GÇö moving average convergence/divergence
Momentum GÇö the rate of price change
Relative Strength Index (RSI) GÇö oscillator showing price strength
Stochastic oscillator GÇö close position within recent trading range
Trix GÇö an oscillator showing the slope of a triple-smoothed exponential moving average
%C GÇö denotes current market environment as range expansion or contraction plus highlights ta extremes when the condition should be changing.
Breadth Indicators These indicators are based on statistics derived from the broad market
Advance Decline Line GÇö a popular indicator of market breadth
McClellan Oscillator - a popular closed-form indicator of breadth
McClellan Summation Index - a popular open-form indicator of breadth
Volume-based indicators
Accumulation/distribution index GÇö based on the close within the day's range
Money Flow GÇö the amount of stock traded on days the price went up
On-balance volume GÇö the momentum of buying and selling stocks
CCP Ytterbium As designers, we can tell Caldari have three main points going for them as a race and that is, missile, hybrids and ECM. To be an all-rounded Caldari pilot, one must realize all aspects have to be considered and learned! |

TheSmokingHertog
Black Hole INC
23
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Posted - 2012.04.09 04:21:00 -
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Let me add:
- Filter in assets based on # of items.
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Johnny Frecko
Fruidian Logic IDENTITY UNKN0WN
4
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Posted - 2012.04.09 15:50:00 -
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I might be thinking too big here:
1)Add a buy list that tracks if you've got an active buy order for that item, and list in what regions. Color the item red if you don't have a buy order anywhere, green if you do. also you should be able to set a status on an item if it should be tracked or not in the buy list. Sometimes you stop trading an item for a while, and you don't want the list to be full of reds.(meaning the item will be in my buy-list, but won't change colors).
2)Add an option for each account to recieve 1(or 2, or 3, or how many seems reasnoble) if you have been out-bidded on that specific order. The reasoning is not for us traders who check their orders, but for the PvPers who don't bother with the market because keeping track of it is insane. This is why the limit is for ONE order. or TWO. not 250 orders.(this should have a minimal effect on lag aswell). especially useful for orders on different regions, or nullsec orders that are left for 3 months without checking. Actually the more i think about it the less this feature is really needed, yet i'm not too sure if it would hurt. most traders would not use it, it's for the non-traders to get into the market for a bit. |

Xaqa
Cryptic Arch
3
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Posted - 2012.04.10 04:33:00 -
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Lijhal wrote:golden words
You are officially my favorite person for today The Cryptic Arch - Always Building |

Ariana DeSoto
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
62
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Posted - 2012.04.10 05:26:00 -
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blurp |

JVLP
Dark Nexxus S I L E N T.
3
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Posted - 2012.04.10 05:52:00 -
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New isk sink similar to locator agents. Instead of locating a toon's current system, identify a market order's toon. I would gladly pay for that service. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
521
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Posted - 2012.04.10 07:07:00 -
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Tri Yson wrote: I didn't think anyone made serious speculative plays in eve. That's interesting.
This thread entirely dedicated to it is running since years...
Example graph.
Also, most of the issues presented in this thread would be instantly fixed by implementing a live market data feed like every electronic exchange does.
Having reliable and sanitized data available i.e. thru API calls or a queue system would make way way easier to implement websites like EvEMarketeer that already show orders books, candle graphs and so on. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Lijhal
Innoruuks Wrath
11
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Posted - 2012.04.10 14:17:00 -
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Xaqa wrote:Lijhal wrote:golden words
You are officially my favorite person for today p.s. updated p.p.s. formatting is fun; hopefully I didn't butcher people's suggestions too much
You're welcome
CCP Ytterbium As designers, we can tell Caldari have three main points going for them as a race and that is, missile, hybrids and ECM. To be an all-rounded Caldari pilot, one must realize all aspects have to be considered and learned! |

Ticarus Hellbrandt
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.04.10 15:32:00 -
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The ability to hire one of the millions of peasants or janitors to continually adjust my orders.
but really, the ability of market orders in custom folders/tabs and items hanger in custom folders/tabs would be great. |

Zaxix
Gods of Freight The Toy Box
56
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:20:00 -
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JVLP wrote:New isk sink similar to locator agents. Instead of locating a toon's current system, identify a market order's toon. I would gladly pay for that service. Pure genius
+10 Red Frog--Hisec Courier Black Frog--Losec/Nosec Courier
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Khetana Hilanen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.10 18:38:00 -
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Annoying localization problem
The ingame calculator does not work with the numpad's decimal button if the decimal separator is not a dot (.) in Windows' regional settings. Just try the hungarian settings (our dec.separator is a comma) to see the problem. |

TheSmokingHertog
Black Hole INC
24
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Posted - 2012.04.10 19:42:00 -
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Johnny Frecko wrote:
... stuff ... 2)Add an option for each account to recieve 1(or 2, or 3, or how many seems reasnoble) if you have been out-bidded on that specific order. The reasoning is not for us traders who check their orders, but for the PvPers who don't bother with the market because keeping track of it is insane. This is why the limit is for ONE order. or TWO. not 250 orders.(this should have a minimal effect on lag aswell). especially useful for orders on different regions, or nullsec orders that are left for 3 months without checking. Actually the more i think about it the less this feature is really needed, yet i'm not too sure if it would hurt. most traders would not use it, it's for the non-traders to get into the market for a bit.
Ok, so people with less marketing interest need an advancement, and the ones heavenly interested in markets should not?
If you would activate it on all possible 305 orders, it would be a hell of a mess in your mssg section. But if you could have settings on each order individually, that would make sence and would not disadvantage the bigger traders.
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Sephiroth CloneIIV
Vitriol Ventures BLACK-MARK
94
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Posted - 2012.04.10 21:40:00 -
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I don't see eve releasing a purely trade based expansion (stuff that is not war is boring, a burning ship captures imagination more than a sci-fi new york stock extange), but the lot of ideas I support, and hope/expect ccp will incorporate them, we do after all have yellow orders currently.
Suggestions are though more fitting for assembly hall. |

Xaqa
Cryptic Arch
3
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Posted - 2012.04.11 00:50:00 -
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Sephiroth CloneIIV wrote:I don't see eve releasing a purely trade based expansion (stuff that is not war is boring, a burning ship captures imagination more than a sci-fi new york stock extange), but the lot of ideas I support, and hope/expect ccp will incorporate them, we do after all have yellow orders currently.
Suggestions are though more fitting for assembly hall.
Agreed - commerce doesn't quite have the sex appeal of explosions. I posted it here to get the denizens of M&D involved; I'll probably repost it in the Hall. The Cryptic Arch - Always Building |

Xaqa
Cryptic Arch
3
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Posted - 2012.04.11 01:03:00 -
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It would be awesome if the forums worked correctly. I posted a link to this thread in the Hall.
The Cryptic Arch - Always Building |

Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
24
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Posted - 2012.04.13 15:53:00 -
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Xaqa wrote:Dirk Decibel wrote: Also: an expansion that focusses on trading? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! What have you been smoking and where can I get some?
I have a dream... It WOULD be like, super duper awesome yeah \o/ |

PlatinumMercSEAL
5
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Posted - 2012.04.17 17:56:00 -
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I told Xaqa about my ideas for improving corporate management. He wanted me to post this so I am.
1. Shareholders should have more abilities with the shares. They should have to fight to get into a corporation to claim CEO-ship. This should be able to be done from a NPC or another player corporation. (if there is no stasis period preventing the ability to leave from a player corporation) An option of being able to appoint individual directors of 6 of the 7 divisions would be appreciated, considering the Vice CEO being the Director of the 1st Division and should be be appointed by the CEO and approved by directors. This will maintain the CEO's and if CEO is not present, Vice CEO, the ability to be tie breaker and the ability to execute passed votes. If this last idea of individual directors and a Vice CEO does come about, shareholders should be able to should be able to replace the CEO with the Vice CEO if the CEO has been absent for more than 1 to 2 weeks and default to replace CEO with the Vice CEO if the CEO resigns.
2. A new feature to make day trading corporate shares possible through an option of corporation types of private and public. Shares of a public corporation can be value at two options, value or demand. Value will place the share value at the value of all items if instantly sold at it position plus the wallet divided by the number of shares not owned by the corporation. Demand will value shares by minimum of value level multiplied by 100% plus the percent of shares not held be the corporation. To prevent exploiting, A corporation cannot of private without shareholders 100% vote approval. Starting share value of a corporation share of a public corporation will use the value divided by the shares already not owned by the corporation.
3. For share to be valued like this will require a new feature of corporate owned ships. So all ships owned by the corp not in hanger can be used to value you a corporation and allow the corporation to own its own fleets and assign ships to members. These ships value will include everything fitted on the ship and the ship itself. To refit one of these ships should require fitting manager or a new role for fitting the ships in the corporate fleet.
4. If a ship is stolen out of the corporate fleet specified earlier, as in leaving the corporation with it in you hanger, insurance should pay the payout to the corporation. A stolen ship is no different as a destroyed ship.
5. A new feature to the corporate wallets to calculate income weekly and profit weekly. This will make it easier for CEOs to calculate the dividends. A total weekly costs should be add to help CEOs know how much is being spent vs. how much is being made. These features might be able to be accessible to shareholders.
6. Corporations should be able to put up sentry turrets on their systems' stargates. This will make it easier to enforce corporate policy and defend against stragglers and traitors.
This will turn this from just trading to the whole New Eden Universe's economy. I hope to see his public comments on this soon. Fly free or get pod killed trying. |

PlatinumMercSEAL
5
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Posted - 2012.04.17 18:02:00 -
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LOL...
I think that would fall under player owned corporations. I think player corporations will be able to provide better interest rates, seeing most standard MMO banks only store stuff from being lost, not pay you interest for saving it. Fly free or get pod killed trying. |

PlatinumMercSEAL
5
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Posted - 2012.04.17 18:04:00 -
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Idont Getitatall wrote:integrated and working stock market
how to make it work? i have no idea, but a game of megacorporations yell for one :)
I told that to Xaqa before he placed this forum. I agree with it. To have a exchange is one thing, anyone can create a mailing list for that, but for a way to automate corporate share value would be nice. Less work for CEOs who have lives. Fly free or get pod killed trying. |

PlatinumMercSEAL
5
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Posted - 2012.04.17 18:08:00 -
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Xaqa wrote:Dirk Decibel wrote: Also: an expansion that focusses on trading? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! What have you been smoking and where can I get some?
I have a dream...
He is a f***ing troll. The nontraders don't want us to get improvements. They think we will take over with our ISK and mercs. Fly free or get pod killed trying. |
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