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Lockc
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Posted - 2008.10.27 01:17:00 -
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I've got a pretty good understanding of networking, and I've been screwing around with networking all my computers together, so now I've been wondering if it would be possible to set up a file server on my desktop computer that would host my EVE client that I could then access from my laptop. The desktop would do all the processing and graphics rendering and output the display and accept keystrokes from the laptop. I'm sure this is possible, but how can I do it? I'm using WinXP SP3 on both computers.
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Atomos Darksun
Infortunatus Eventus
Obsidian Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.27 02:11:00 -
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I have no clue how to do what you're asking, but I think I have a more simple solution. Let her watch movies on the laptop while you use the desktop. Why would you even want to use a laptop for gaming, a full keyboard and larger screen is much more comfortable, unless you want to lay down or something. |
Lockc
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Posted - 2008.10.27 02:15:00 -
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lol I'm trying to do it just to do it, not for that specific reason. It has many other applications as well, but the most difficult I think would be hosting my EVE client so I started there :) |
P'uck
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Posted - 2008.10.27 02:39:00 -
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I've been wondering about the same thing for quite some time now.
I got a "powerful" computer set up in a room I'm working in, and the old computer is rigged up with the tv in a more comfortable place. Sometimes I'd just like to stream the games over to the comfy chair... it shouldn't be THAT hard, it's just... what to google for? |
EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters
DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.10.27 04:12:00 -
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Edited by: EnslaverOfMinmatar on 27/10/2008 04:15:48
you can try Remote Assistance/Desktop on those pc's with windows, but i guess you'll only get a few fps(never tried such crazy things, but without compression wouldn't you need 2.8MB of bandwidth @ 1024x768x32 per frame?). if you simply want to run eve from another pc's harddrive, just share the installed client on the network.
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Lockc
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Posted - 2008.10.27 04:18:00 -
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Edited by: Lockc on 27/10/2008 04:25:16
So how would I go about sharing the client on the network, just share the whole program files\eve folder? I've tried right-clicking it but there aren't any sharing options. |
EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters
DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.10.27 04:59:00 -
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Edited by: EnslaverOfMinmatar on 27/10/2008 05:05:32
you get sharing stuff in folder options, check settings in case it's disabled
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KingsGambit
Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2008.10.27 09:37:00 -
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The one question that really needs answering is where would your partner be watching movies? From the desktop presumably? If you simply enable sharing on your Eve folder, any other PCs on the network will have access to it (assuming all settings correct, eg. they can currently share files between them). You can then run the eve.exe on the desktop, from the laptop, although in this scenario the laptop is actually doing the processing. There's no way to have your desktop do the work and have it simply appear on your laptop. There *are* some remote control softwares that are capable of handling DirectX apps, but usually the software itself proves quite a bottleneck, and also this would preclude the desktop from doing anything else.
Even if you had a 24k gold cat-7 ethernet x-over cable plugging the two machines together thru gigabit NICs, using remote control software would be really clunky for gaming. Also, regardless, watching a movie at the same time as playing a graphically intensive game on the same machine, regardless off where the graphics are going will hammer the processor. GFX cards have built in DVD decoding hardware usually, so a PC could *probably* play a DVD whilst file serving a game but not a file like an AVI or MPG, the hard disk or CPU (multi core possibly excepted) would be a bottleneck. Also, though I'm sure you're aware, Fast Ethernet is 100Mb/s, your local hard drive is at it's slowest ~ATA100, capable of up to 100MB/s...even ignoring overhead, there's a huge difference in bandwidth. And if you're using Wi-Fi it's even worse.
In summary, is there a reason you can't simply install Eve classic on your laptop, and let your partner have the desktop? That way you both have the full processing power of your respective machines, and you don't have to play a game from a network hard drive.
In theory, turning off graphics acceleration on your desktop should allow a remote control client to display a DirectX app (WMP, games, etc) though turning off hardware GFX acceleration to play a game seems a little...counter-intuitive.  If you need anything more, some more info about your setup would help.
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pherlopolus
Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2008.10.27 16:45:00 -
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sometimes the simplist solutions are best.
Watch movies on TV, right torrent movies to DVD first.
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Lockc
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Posted - 2008.10.27 17:19:00 -
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Edited by: Lockc on 27/10/2008 17:21:37
It's just a fun project, to see if I can do it, the thing about her watching a movie is just an example.
My main question was whether I could get the desktop to do the processing and simply output the display, but since its a dx app that adds a whole new level to it doesn't it...
I'm gonna try sharing the whole folder, I'll post how it goes tonight.
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Xtreem
Gallente
Knockaround Guys Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.27 17:45:00 -
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ok a much quicker way of doing this is - get a duel output graphics card, setup there dvd, then just run it on one screen, and run an extention to the screen running the movie so it can be away from the main system.
all your effectivly doing this this wondering is making things alot more complicated than it needs to be.
share the folder across the network, and you can run it from the laptop, but the laptop will still need to do the work.
or you can use a produce like vnc, or pc anywhere, or rdp and run it remotly, but that will just display the screen of the other machine which could be eve, but would negate the point as you could not run both eve and the dvd ontop to make this work.
in essence u say u know about networks, yet it seems your lacking some pc information, if what you were thinking could be done easily there would be no laptops as we know them, there would just be a central pc and several monitors with network connections around the house dont u think?
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar
Rage of Inferno
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Posted - 2008.10.27 17:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Xtreem
ok a much quicker way of doing this is - get a duel output graphics card, setup there dvd, then just run it on one screen, and run an extention to the screen running the movie so it can be away from the main system.
all your effectivly doing this this wondering is making things alot more complicated than it needs to be.
share the folder across the network, and you can run it from the laptop, but the laptop will still need to do the work.
or you can use a produce like vnc, or pc anywhere, or rdp and run it remotly, but that will just display the screen of the other machine which could be eve, but would negate the point as you could not run both eve and the dvd ontop to make this work.
in essence u say u know about networks, yet it seems your lacking some pc information, if what you were thinking could be done easily there would be no laptops as we know them, there would just be a central pc and several monitors with network connections around the house dont u think?
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Ryysa
Paisti
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Posted - 2008.10.27 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Lockc
Edited by: Lockc on 27/10/2008 01:37:35
I've got a pretty good understanding of networking, and I've been screwing around with networking all my computers together, so now I've been wondering if it would be possible to set up a file server on my desktop computer that would host my EVE client that I could then access from my laptop, so I can play EVE and the woman can watch movies  . The desktop would do all the processing and graphics rendering and output the display and accept keystrokes from the laptop. I'm sure this is possible, but how can I do it? I'm using WinXP SP3 on the desktop and ubuntu on the laptop, but the laptop has xp xp3 on it too.
If you have a dual core desktop, you could use a realtime video codec to encode eve's output and stream that over the network.
However, making it work with low latency is a rather big problem. It would be enough for mining/ratting/missioning... but not for pvp.
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Xtreem
Gallente
Knockaround Guys Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.27 19:59:00 -
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show me any that could stream a package with as high res as eve :) |
Daelorn
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.10.27 20:05:00 -
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Solution: Buy a better laptop. |
Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc
Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2008.10.28 00:29:00 -
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Edited by: Xen Gin on 28/10/2008 00:30:12
Originally by: Lockc
Edited by: Lockc on 27/10/2008 01:37:35
I've got a pretty good understanding of networking, and I've been screwing around with networking all my computers together, so now I've been wondering if it would be possible to set up a file server on my desktop computer that would host my EVE client that I could then access from my laptop, so I can play EVE and the woman can watch movies . The desktop would do all the processing and graphics rendering and output the display and accept keystrokes from the laptop. I'm sure this is possible, but how can I do it? I'm using WinXP SP3 on the desktop and ubuntu on the laptop, but the laptop has xp xp3 on it too.
The way you could do it, is to use a program like Remote Desktop Connection (But isn't that, because it wont work for DirectX etc) the best ones essentially transmit black and white jpegs to a receiving program and allow you interact with the pc.
However your best bet would be to set up a PC (high end with) a dedicated DVD output on the main monitor and to use another dedicated Network LCD Monitor to use with a network mouse and keyboard using software similar to Linux's Synergy.
The only short area in this is that software (and Windows) for dual independent monitors on a single pc system are never good. |
TU144 TEPPOPNCT'CMEPTHNK
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.10.28 02:40:00 -
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Sounds like you are looking to play with Citrix server and client, though its going to suck munkey nuts on the fps through the lan/lappytop
its do-able, but you will have bandwidth issues, im sure the laptop will be faster tbh...
oh and the server is gonna seriously need a lot of cores/power, cos ur gonna hammer it hard...
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Sazkyen
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Posted - 2008.10.28 07:55:00 -
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Edited by: Sazkyen on 28/10/2008 08:04:07
You can't do it. Your network has a througput several magnitudes smaller than a local bus. It's just technically not possible. Besides, I don't believe remote desktop supports DirectX.
You would need a specialized client/server combo (or more like: EVE client + EVE sub-client) and batched optical network connection. The first doesn't exist, the second would be ridiculously expensive.
Even if you managed to find a remote desktop solution that had DirectX support, you would still need some fast way to transmit the video signal quickly enough.
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Sitara
Minmatar
Solar Flare Trade and Production
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Posted - 2008.10.28 08:11:00 -
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I know its possible cause someone in my corp years ago did it so he could run haulers (were no freighters then hehe) from work - I'm afraid I don't know the technical details (I think he used PC Anywhere) and he got like 2 FPS but it was enough to haul stuff and chat....
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar
Rage of Inferno
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Posted - 2008.10.28 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: Xtreem
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\0/ for Terminal servers.
show me any that could stream a package with as high res as eve :)
There isn't any as far as I know. 
Shame tho tbh.
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Pwett
Minmatar
QUANT Corp.
QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.10.28 17:44:00 -
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I recommend buying a wireless keyboard and mouse and a 50 foot DVI-D cable because streaming directX through any sort of remote desktop / VNC system requires ridiculous amounts of bandwidth.
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Lockc
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Posted - 2008.10.29 01:52:00 -
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lol Pwett
Well, ****. I feel better not being able to find a way to do this on my own at least. Too bad too, it would have really kicked ass.
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Irish Whiskey
Caldari
The Black Fleet
The Black Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.29 08:30:00 -
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Linux has this cool thing called X.
X can forward these things from a server to a client.
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