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Shoen Seam	Posted - 2008.11.04 09:43:00 - [1] Edited by: Shoen Seam on 04/11/2008 09:45:00 [Apocalypse, Apoc_PVP] Large Armor Repairer II Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Cap Recharger II Fleeting Warp Scrambler I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L E500 Prototype Energy Vampire E500 Prototype Energy Vampire Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Hammerhead II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 Actually trainning for MPII weapons. I want to use this setup for SOLO PvP and ratting in lowsec or 0.0. I am ratting a im getting attacked to be able to defence myself. Two kind of drones Medium x5 for DPS and light x5 Hornets for ECM It is CAP stable without the MWD. I think it is not 'very expensive' for a BS. Is it viable? any weakness you could comment? Any suggestions? Thanks.
Securitas Protector Final Conflict UK Liberty.	Posted - 2008.11.04 10:04:00 - [2] Edited by: Securitas Protector on 04/11/2008 10:05:51 For solo PVP I would go something like the following, although most people will tell you solo PVP is dead. Upgrade to amarr Navy crystals as need be. ALTERNATIVELY, change out the LAR II for a plate and other stuff out for resists. It is NOT cap stable...which is why you might want to do this OR pulse the repper. I also have a "gate crasher" setup which breaks very small gatecamps; more active tank and two guns out for heavy neuts. [Apocalypse, SoloPVP] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Armor Explosive Hardener II Damage Control II Large Armor Repairer II 'Refuge' Adaptive Nano Plating I Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 100MN MicroWarpdrive II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator J5 Prototype Warp Inhibitor I Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Hammerhead II x5
Chimii Lecto Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.04 10:05:00 - [3] Generally Ratting and PvP needs extremely different setups. Try to do both and you will usually be alot less efficient. ---------- /Pretty posting.
Cmndr Griff Opinicus Operations Vanguard.	Posted - 2008.11.04 10:30:00 - [4] Originally by: Chimii Lecto Generally Ratting and PvP needs extremely different setups. Try to do both and you will usually be alot less efficient. Are you DHB Wildcat's camp alt? Where do ideas like these come from? Monkeys in hats?
NoNah	Posted - 2008.11.04 11:27:00 - [5] One of the basic rules in eve is to specialize. Try to do two things and you will only fail at both. Avoid dual weapon systems, avoid shield and armor tanking at once, avoid combined pvp and ratting setups. Thing is what you have here is a setup with a pitiful tank, very low damage and just about no credentials for pvp at all. Most ships will be able to take you down, laughing, sorry. Furthermore, if you really want to use utilityslots, I'd give the geddon a second glance. It's one awesome ship and might serve you this purpose better than the apoc. Parrots, commence! Postcount: 476696
Chimii Lecto Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.04 11:50:00 - [6] Originally by: Cmndr Griff Originally by: Chimii Lecto Generally Ratting and PvP needs extremely different setups. Try to do both and you will usually be alot less efficient. Are you DHB Wildcat's camp alt? Just bringing colors to the internets =) ---------- /Pretty posting.
Shoen Seam	Posted - 2008.11.04 13:26:00 - [7] Originally by: NoNah One of the basic rules in eve is to specialize. Try to do two things and you will only fail at both. Avoid dual weapon systems, avoid shield and armor tanking at once, avoid combined pvp and ratting setups. Thing is what you have here is a setup with a pitiful tank, very low damage and just about no credentials for pvp at all. Most ships will be able to take you down, laughing, sorry. Furthermore, if you really want to use utilityslots, I'd give the geddon a second glance. It's one awesome ship and might serve you this purpose better than the apoc. I kown about specialization and i agree with you. Really i dont want to make both things. I really want to rat in lowsec or 0.0 The problem is that i also want to defend myself from pirates and with a ratting setup i'm ****ed. So my perpose is to be able to have an opportunity to survive a pirate attack while i am ratting. I dont know if it is possible and i havent much experience about PvP.
Arune Ayden Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.04 14:12:00 - [8] Edited by: Arune Ayden on 04/11/2008 14:15:31 Use the Geddon, possibly with Dual Heavy Beams until you can use Mega Pulse II's. Max the gank, minimize the tank, and use the utility slot for a cloak. 7x Dual Heavy Beams with appropriate range crystals (usually maximals of 52km) 1x Prototype cloak 3x Cap recharger II's 1x CPR II 1x LAR II 2x Hardener II's 3x Heat Sink II's 3x CCC I's Keeps the tank running and you'll have no trouble surviving a triple 1.85 spawn in 0.0. When you see bad people in local, you should be agile enough to warp to your safespot, or if not, align to your safespot as soon as you warp in so you can get away if things do get too dangerous. EDIT: I forgot the drones. Two flights of whatever Medium II's are most effective against the rats (Two, because you might have to leave a set behind to save your hide) and a flight of Warrior II's: helps fend off the pesky interceptors and frigates who are tackling you.
Soporo Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.04 17:25:00 - [9] If you try to solo a BS after the nerf then tears will commence. Yours.
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Infinity Enterprises	Posted - 2008.11.04 17:39:00 - [10] If you want to defend your self as in be able to get away. Fit 4 guns and rat more slowly (fit MEga pulses they have enough range and more DPS than beams). And fit 4 heavy neuts that can shut down basically any SOLO aggressor and give you a chance to escape. MWD might not be needed if your pvp capability wanted is restricted to not being caught in belts. If you want to Fight and Defeat the enemy, then forget the idea of ratting setup. You will have to rat in a FULLY pvp focused ship. less than that and you are toast. ------------------------------------------------- If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough

NoNah	Posted - 2008.11.04 17:39:00 - [11] Originally by: Shoen Seam Originally by: NoNah One of the basic rules in eve is to specialize. Try to do two things and you will only fail at both. Avoid dual weapon systems, avoid shield and armor tanking at once, avoid combined pvp and ratting setups. Thing is what you have here is a setup with a pitiful tank, very low damage and just about no credentials for pvp at all. Most ships will be able to take you down, laughing, sorry. Furthermore, if you really want to use utilityslots, I'd give the geddon a second glance. It's one awesome ship and might serve you this purpose better than the apoc. I kown about specialization and i agree with you. Really i dont want to make both things. I really want to rat in lowsec or 0.0 The problem is that i also want to defend myself from pirates and with a ratting setup i'm ****ed. So my perpose is to be able to have an opportunity to survive a pirate attack while i am ratting. I dont know if it is possible and i havent much experience about PvP. Then go with a geddon, 5 ecm drones, and a cloak or neut. Parrots, commence! Postcount: 991215
Kebast	Posted - 2008.11.04 18:09:00 - [12] Here's an option. Can dump the Heat Sinks for EANM's for more tank if you want. [Apocalypse, test] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Damage Control II Adaptive Nano Plating II Large Armor Repairer II Faint Warp Prohibitor I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Conjunctive Radar ECCM Scanning Array I Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Gamma L Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Gamma L Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Gamma L Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Gamma L Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Gamma L Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Gamma L Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Gamma L Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I
Atius Tirawa Minmatar Wreckless Abandon G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.11.05 07:08:00 - [13] Humm, yummy. . .where do you live? -----------


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