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Atomos Darksun
Infortunatus Eventus Obsidian Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.04 15:06:00 -
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You don't want Palin as president when McCain keels over in office, do you?
VOTE!
Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
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Jana Clant
New Dawn Corp New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.11.04 15:08:00 -
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IT MOST DEFINITELY IS A TRAP!
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jason hill
Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.04 15:09:00 -
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in before the big "CLICK" methinks
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Miss Interpret
Gallente B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm
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Posted - 2008.11.04 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Atomos Darksun You don't want Palin as president when McCain keels over in office, do you?
I think it beats having Biden resigning, and Obama getting offed, which would leave Queen Pelosi. |
Gorgosti
Gallente Green Men Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.11.04 15:11:00 -
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whew! Calamari for president :)
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.04 15:14:00 -
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Edited by: goodby4u on 04/11/2008 15:14:41 Win.
And ITS A TRAP!
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2008.11.04 16:17:00 -
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ITSA TARP! ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
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Bish Ounen
Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.11.04 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Atomos Darksun You don't want Palin as president when McCain keels over in office, do you?
Soooo You'd rather have the LESS experienced Barack Obama as President? The guy with LESS time in office than Palin? The guy with LESS executive office experience than Palin? The guy who has spent his LIFE mariniating in the teachings of radicals and socialists? The guy who wants to "Spread the wealth" by taking YOUR hard-earned money and giving it to people who didn't work for it? The guy who wants a "Civilian Security Force" with as much power as the military? (read: Brown Shirts) The guy who spent 20 years in a Church with a nutcase pastor, but didn't bother to notice the crazy crap coming out of this pastor's mouth until it became inconvenient for his Presidential aspirations? THAT is the guy you want as the Leader of the Free World? Really?
Yeah. THAT makes sense.
All I can say is that I've never been happier that most of the EvE community is European. Nothing personal guys, you know I love you all, but frankly, I'm SO GLAD you guys don't get a vote in my country's elections.
Incidentally, I've already voted. McCain/Palin '08 all the way!
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The TX
Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.11.04 16:21:00 -
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*strolls in* Hey guys, what's going on?
SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Rick Roll
I'M SPARTACUS!
Can I have your stuff?
NINE-THOUSAAAAAAAAND!
IT'S A TRAP!!!!!
Originally by: Slade Trillgon Holy wall of text TX-Man.
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.11.04 16:22:00 -
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In my opinion both are a nuclear bomb waiting to go off so im actually obstaining this voting round. While people may argue to vote for the less of the two evils I just cant see which one is the lighter shade of gray. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase:
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Jana Clant
New Dawn Corp New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.11.04 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: The TX
*strolls in* Hey guys, what's going on?
SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Rick Roll
I'M SPARTACUS!
Can I have your stuff?
NINE-THOUSAAAAAAAAND!
IT'S A TRAP!!!!!
Whoa, took you a while to get it right.
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The TX
Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.11.04 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Bish Ounen
Originally by: Atomos Darksun You don't want Palin as president when McCain keels over in office, do you?
Soooo You'd rather have the LESS experienced Barack Obama as President? The guy with LESS time in office than Palin? The guy with LESS executive office experience than Palin? The guy who has spent his LIFE mariniating in the teachings of radicals and socialists? The guy who wants to "Spread the wealth" by taking YOUR hard-earned money and giving it to people who didn't work for it? The guy who wants a "Civilian Security Force" with as much power as the military? (read: Brown Shirts) The guy who spent 20 years in a Church with a nutcase pastor, but didn't bother to notice the crazy crap coming out of this pastor's mouth until it became inconvenient for his Presidential aspirations? THAT is the guy you want as the Leader of the Free World? Really?
Yeah. THAT makes sense.
All I can say is that I've never been happier that most of the EvE community is European. Nothing personal guys, you know I love you all, but frankly, I'm SO GLAD you guys don't get a vote in my country's elections.
Incidentally, I've already voted. McCain/Palin '08 all the way!
Originally by: Palin
I can see Russia from my house
Obama '08.
That is all.
Originally by: Slade Trillgon Holy wall of text TX-Man.
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The TX
Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.11.04 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Jana Clant
Originally by: The TX
*strolls in* Hey guys, what's going on?
SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Rick Roll
I'M SPARTACUS!
Can I have your stuff?
NINE-THOUSAAAAAAAAND!
IT'S A TRAP!!!!!
Whoa, took you a while to get it right.
Own up to it: Did you Rick Roll youself by clicking on my link, even though it was a blatant Rick-Roll-in-waiting?
Originally by: Slade Trillgon Holy wall of text TX-Man.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Zetsubou Corp
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Posted - 2008.11.04 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Bish Ounen
Originally by: Atomos Darksun You don't want Palin as president when McCain keels over in office, do you?
Soooo You'd rather have the LESS experienced Barack Obama as President? The guy with LESS time in office than Palin? The guy with LESS executive office experience than Palin? The guy who has spent his LIFE mariniating in the teachings of radicals and socialists? The guy who wants to "Spread the wealth" by taking YOUR hard-earned money and giving it to people who didn't work for it? The guy who wants a "Civilian Security Force" with as much power as the military? (read: Brown Shirts) The guy who spent 20 years in a Church with a nutcase pastor, but didn't bother to notice the crazy crap coming out of this pastor's mouth until it became inconvenient for his Presidential aspirations? THAT is the guy you want as the Leader of the Free World? Really?
Yeah. THAT makes sense.
All I can say is that I've never been happier that most of the EvE community is European. Nothing personal guys, you know I love you all, but frankly, I'm SO GLAD you guys don't get a vote in my country's elections.
Incidentally, I've already voted. McCain/Palin '08 all the way!
So you voted for the guy with a nightmare foreign policy, no grasp of economics, will cut taxes for the fat cats while screwing the working class, and will very possibly die in office, leaving "hockey mom" Palin in charge who bases her foreign policy on the fact that Russia is close to Alaska. You basically believed all the bull**** about Obama being a communist. ____________________
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Bish Ounen
Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.11.04 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: The TX
Originally by: Palin
I can see Russia from my house
Obama '08.
That is all.
Seriously? I give you reason after reason after reason why Obama is a dangerous man to have in the White house, and the BEST retort you can come up with is a misquoted JOKE Palin made about "Seeing Russia from her house"? THAT is all you got?
Glad to see you've put so much thought into your choice.
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Ademaro Imre
Caldari Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.11.04 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Bish Ounen The guy who wants a "Civilian Security Force" with as much power as the military? (read: Brown Shirts)
Actually, you should read up about the American Protective League. It was the modern day version of the Brown Shirts in the USA originally created to spy on citizens and schools that might have opposed WWI, and given official status by the BOI/FBI under Woodrow Wilson with it charge to spy on Americans, break unions, corral draft dodgers, and extract confessions, and beat up anyone that might have spoken out against WWI or anything the members thought was "disloyal."
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Bish Ounen
Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.11.04 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ademaro Imre
Originally by: Bish Ounen The guy who wants a "Civilian Security Force" with as much power as the military? (read: Brown Shirts)
Actually, you should read up about the American Protective League. It was the modern day version of the Brown Shirts in the USA originally created to spy on citizens and schools that might have opposed WWI, and given official status by the BOI/FBI under Woodrow Wilson with it charge to spy on Americans, break unions, corral draft dodgers, and extract confessions, and beat up anyone that might have spoken out against WWI or anything the members thought was "disloyal."
So you are saying that I was basically correct? (Seeing as I have heard DEMOCRATS saying that Obama was talking about an "America Protective League" style group.) Only THIS time it will be attacking people who have the temerity to disagree with "The One". Nice. Tactical Logistics using the last T1 Frigate hull!
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The TX
Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.11.04 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Bish Ounen
Originally by: The TX
Originally by: Palin
I can see Russia from my house
Obama '08.
That is all.
Seriously? I give you reason after reason after reason why Obama is a dangerous man to have in the White house, and the BEST retort you can come up with is a misquoted JOKE Palin made about "Seeing Russia from her house"? THAT is all you got?
Glad to see you've put so much thought into your choice.
Firstly, I'm English, so you shouldn't really care too much about what I think, because America is the center of the universe and outside opinions TOTALLY don't matter.
Secondly, my 'quote' from Sarah Palin is just a few words that summarise what I think of Palin and her attitudes as a whole. I could explain exactly what I think of her, but you'll probably just through point 1 in my face and ignore my opinion anyways.
Thirdly, erm... what ReaperOfSly said!
Originally by: ReaperOfSly So you voted for the guy with a nightmare foreign policy, no grasp of economics, will cut taxes for the fat cats while screwing the working class, and will very possibly die in office, leaving "hockey mom" Palin in charge who bases her foreign policy on the fact that Russia is close to Alaska. You basically believed all the bull**** about Obama being a communist.
There. That's my arguement too ;-P
Note: Sorry about point 1, I was angry, and may have stereotyped a stupid-American as opposed to giving a real, balanced view on real Americans. So basically, I couldn't be arsed to say why McCain is wrong and Obama is right, and the lame answer I gave wasn't enough for you, so you flung dung at me, I threw some back, we both got covered in ****, and both felt worse off afterwards. So perhaps, as an outsider, I should just say: Good luck with the elections, I hope that whoever wins does the right thing for America. Although I think you personally are backing the wrong guy. LOL.
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Originally by: Slade Trillgon Holy wall of text TX-Man.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2008.11.04 16:40:00 -
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Copy and pasting a response I found elsewhere (cannot find it again for proper link...will look again if anyone cares):
"So much of the Palin-has-experience argument depends entirely on the beltway obsession with governorship being a good predictor for elections. This election cycle has been no different from recent past in that we've heard endless speculation fueled on the basis of this assumption, which ended up being asinine given the largely senatorial field who became the front-runners.
Now, I would not deny being a governor, and particularly of a governor of a southern state, would ordinarily be considered an advantage in establishing a credible national profile, but it's just lazy thinking to think voters can never perceive national stature in anything else, and will studiously ignore all leadership qualities (or deficits) like wit, knowledge, character, inquisitiveness, national profile, policy familiarity, and intelligence.
Ok, so it's entirely possible that Palin's governorship could translate to that kind of stature, but pretending it's a transitive relationship between the virtues of leadership and the governorship of Alaska, is just an insult to the intelligence of voters. It's as if voters can't be trusted to see beyond the political context of another state, to examine leadership qualities independently and in a national context.
Fact is, Obama is an impressive orator, he's demonstrated expertise and competence in his meteoric rise as an outsider, in his campaign, and in putting together a AAA team of advisers on economics and foreign policy. He's shown intellectual muscle in the way he engages day-to-day Q&A, and his background as a constitutional scholar, and being top of his class at Harvard law also helps.
None of these things are trivial or tangential virtues. Palin, in comparison, is a complete light-weight. The idea that the governor gap somehow obviates all this is simply mind boggling."
-------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Zetsubou Corp
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Posted - 2008.11.04 16:42:00 -
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What does "meteoric rise" mean? Meteors don't rise, they fall. ____________________
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Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
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Posted - 2008.11.04 16:45:00 -
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I voted for myself. Hell, I would have rather had Al "I Eeeventard Deh Internez" Gore, or John "I'll bend over backwards and suck my own ball sack while lying through my teeth to get your vote" Kerry, or even keep bush for a 3rd term than either of the 2 idiots up for the chopping block this round. Besides, I'm never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down |
Ademaro Imre
Caldari Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.11.04 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Bish Ounen
Originally by: Atomos Darksun You don't want Palin as president when McCain keels over in office, do you?
Soooo You'd rather have the LESS experienced Barack Obama as President? The guy with LESS time in office than Palin? The guy with LESS executive office experience than Palin? The guy who has spent his LIFE mariniating in the teachings of radicals and socialists? The guy who wants to "Spread the wealth" by taking YOUR hard-earned money and giving it to people who didn't work for it? The guy who wants a "Civilian Security Force" with as much power as the military? (read: Brown Shirts) The guy who spent 20 years in a Church with a nutcase pastor, but didn't bother to notice the crazy crap coming out of this pastor's mouth until it became inconvenient for his Presidential aspirations? THAT is the guy you want as the Leader of the Free World? Really?
Yeah. THAT makes sense.
All I can say is that I've never been happier that most of the EvE community is European. Nothing personal guys, you know I love you all, but frankly, I'm SO GLAD you guys don't get a vote in my country's elections.
Incidentally, I've already voted. McCain/Palin '08 all the way!
So you voted for the guy with a nightmare foreign policy, no grasp of economics, will cut taxes for the fat cats while screwing the working class, and will very possibly die in office, leaving "hockey mom" Palin in charge who bases her foreign policy on the fact that Russia is close to Alaska. You basically believed all the bull**** about Obama being a communist.
Nightmare foreign policy? What is the nightmare? Troops are basically done in Iraq and Afganistaon is being wrapped up. Nightmare, is the internation crisis on the scale of the Cuban Missile Cris that Biden has PROMISED will happen if Obama is elected because he will be perceived as weak. Obama foreign policy experience is surfing in Hawaii and making speeches in Europe. Buying drugs that originate in other countries does NOT qualify Obama as a foreign policy expert. Palin does have to oversee trade issues with Canada and Russia, and even Japan. Every President has the possibility of dieing.
Life Expectancy White Male 71: 77% Life Expectancy White Female 44: 94.5% Life Expectancy White Male 66: 78% Life Expectancy Black Male 47: 92%
OvThere is a shockingly low life expectancy gap between McCain and Obama of just 15%. Overall, the life expectancies average out to be the same.
You don't understand the economy. If you increase my costs as a businessman, or anyplace I do business with, I pass the costs down, ro east them, an invariably my employees ear less, or get fired. When the luxury boat industry in Maine was taxed a 10% "luxury" tax, the entire boating industry went out of business. Those evil rich peopel stopped buying brand new yahts and kept using their current yahts.
Describe some policy of Obama that is not based in socialism.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2008.11.04 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: ReaperOfSly What does "meteoric rise" mean? Meteors don't rise, they fall.
Words have more than one meaning (in English anyway).
Dictionary is your friend :
meteoric [meet-ee-or-rik] Adjective 1. of or relating to meteors 2. brilliant and very rapid: his meteoric rise to power
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/meteoric -------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
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Dracu1a
Gallente systemXshock Worlds Merchant Directorates
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Posted - 2008.11.04 16:53:00 -
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So Obama is for the working class? Say what happens when he taxes all of those business owners who make over 250k a year? They will get ****ed and not pay their employees more and wont give annual bonus' that those "working class" may otherwise would have received. No matter what those evil "big business men" will get theirs.
I love how people just feed into lies. Your screwed either way.
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Ademaro Imre
Caldari Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.11.04 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
Fact is, Obama is an impressive orator, he's demonstrated expertise and competence in his meteoric rise as an outsider, in his campaign, and in putting together a AAA team of advisers on economics and foreign policy. He's shown intellectual muscle in the way he engages day-to-day Q&A, and his background as a constitutional scholar, and being top of his class at Harvard law also helps.
I see, vote for Obama because:
1. He uses a teleprompter well 2. The press elevated him. 3. He collected advisors, and 300 unnamed foreign policy advisors (he needs that many?) 4. Only answers questions he wants to. 5. Hiding college transcripts and thesis. 6. Unknown what his grades actually were.
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Ademaro Imre
Caldari Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.11.04 17:00:00 -
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Edited by: Ademaro Imre on 04/11/2008 17:03:53
Originally by: Dracu1a So Obama is for the working class? Say what happens when he taxes all of those business owners who make over 250k a year? They will get ****ed and not pay their employees more and wont give annual bonus' that those "working class" may otherwise would have received. No matter what those evil "big business men" will get theirs.
I love how people just feed into lies. Your screwed either way.
I described this n another post. I run a business, but I will allegedly be shielded from the Obama tax increases. However, all of my suppliers, advertisers, and insurance companies do make more than 250K. They will pass their costs down to me and effect their own employees. I also provide services to small and large businesses. When they get squeezed, so will I. It will impact the paycheck of my employees. I also provide services for individuals. When they get squeezed by their employers, or the cost of consumer goods go up - I will feel the effect of that when they cancel my services- and my employees get socked again. I have already lost two corporate accounts because of gas prices - prices Obama has absolutely no plans to combat. His plan to specifically increase electricity costs (as he describes as "price signals") in addition to eliminating all coal fired power plants will spell the death of the economy.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.11.04 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Ademaro Imre 1. He uses a teleprompter well
See, what someone with good skills would know is that, you put this one last, rather than first. You do this mostly due to the fact that it is by far the stupidest point you have attempted to make. And when you start off with a dumb point, people tend to ignore the ones after it.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Uglychisopi
Red Fleet
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Posted - 2008.11.04 17:02:00 -
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I'll vote for Palin as she looks great in that p0rn0 i watched the other day....oh wait!!
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Ademaro Imre
Caldari Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.11.04 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Originally by: Ademaro Imre 1. He uses a teleprompter well
See, what someone with good skills would know is that, you put this one last, rather than first. You do this mostly due to the fact that it is by far the stupidest point you have attempted to make. And when you start off with a dumb point, people tend to ignore the ones after it.
Its not a dumb point, and I went point for point and that is why its first. Obama is either a great orator if armed with a teleprompter or a stutters more than he can spit out words.
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Jana Clant
New Dawn Corp New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.11.04 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: The TX
Originally by: Jana Clant
Originally by: The TX
*strolls in* Hey guys, what's going on?
SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Rick Roll
I'M SPARTACUS!
Can I have your stuff?
NINE-THOUSAAAAAAAAND!
IT'S A TRAP!!!!!
Whoa, took you a while to get it right.
Own up to it: Did you Rick Roll youself by clicking on my link, even though it was a blatant Rick-Roll-in-waiting?
Yes, yes, I did. And I even recognized the link.
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