From a political and psychological perspective it was a great error to NOT elect Two Step as a chairman. The CSM had already lost a great deal of its legitimation by the dismissal of The Mittani right at the beginning of the new election period. By choosing one of the weaker runner-ups and not the second in vote, legitimation has not been restored in the least, but further eroded.

If the Chairman decides to step down or rescind his responsibility at any time for any reason, a vote must be held among representatives to elect another Chairman.GÇ¥ (page 16 of white paper)

While they are hiding behind the white paper to make a fairly blatant power grab away from Two Step, I have a dirty little secret for all y'all.

The chairman position is meaningless and is a holdover from the old days when voting happened in formal meetings in some dumb irc channel. There is no real power in the Chair that any member of the CSM can't claim for themselves by posting, chatting, doing interviews.

There was no power-grab. CCP made a decision about how things should proceed (and I, in fact, argued that everyone should just shift up one place and thus the chairman's position should go to Two Step by default)

CSM 7 Chairman - Seleene

Because of the resignation of The Mittani from CSM 7, the position of Chairman was opened up to a vote among all 13 members of CSM 7. The candidates were Two Step and Seleene. The votes:

Meissa Anunthiel - Seleene
Greene Lee - Seleene
Two Step - Two Step
Kelduum Revaan - Seleene
Alekseyev Karrde - Seleene
Hans Jagerblitzen - Seleene
Elise Randolph - Seleene
UAxDEATH - Seleene
Seleene - Seleene
Trebor Daehdoow - Seleene
Dovinian - Seleene
Issler Dainze - Two Step
Darius III - Seleene

Good to see you agree with what I was saying during the elections.

From a political and psychological perspective it was a great error to NOT elect Two Step as a chairman. The CSM had already lost a great deal of its legitimation by the dismissal of The Mittani right at the beginning of the new election period. By choosing one of the weaker runner-ups and not the second in vote, legitimation has not been restored in the least, but further eroded.

The community shall have a very close look at all steps that are being taken by CSM 7. To my mind CSM 7 elections were very much about the -+nerf supercaps issue-½, and The Mittani was the impressive winner of the elections. You can only interpret this result as (1) a tribute to how he managed affairs in the past year and (2) a clear mandate to CSM 7 to proceed in the footsteps of The Mittanis political agenda. If CSM 7 should try to reverse the accomplishments of CSM 6 with regards to supercaps and other issues, then the election of Seleene will be regarded as a real coup d'+¬tat, and a true mockery of the voter's will.

Good luck, Seleene. You took a heavy burden by running for chairman, and your chairmanship is already overshadowed.

And @Two Step: don't let yourself be fobbed off by -+one of the most demanding posts on the CSM-½. You got a clear mandate to take a leadership position in CSM 7. Don't let that be overshadowed by a technicality like this unfortunate chairman election.

[quote=Trebor Daehdoow]There was no power-grab. CCP made a decision about how things should proceed (and I, in fact, argued that everyone should just shift up one place and thus the chairman's position should go to Two Step by default)

CSM 7 Chairman - Seleene
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Trebor Daehdoow - Seleene
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There was no power-grab. CCP made a decision about how things should proceed (and I, in fact, argued that everyone should just shift up one place and thus the chairman's position should go to Two Step by default)

So? I made the argument that because Alex resigned before he was a seated member of CSM7, he was never a member of CSM7, so Two step was the top vote-getter, and the chair was his if he wanted it. I preferred this because it eliminated stupid drama like this thread.

CCP disagreed, saying that he was a member of CSM7 as soon as he was elected. Thus we had to have an election.

That being the case, I now had to decide who was best suited to each role. Choosing between Seleene and Two step was an edge decision, but given the declared goals of the various people, and especially Two step's desire to increase transparency and do more communications work, I felt that Seleene as chairman and Two step as secretary was the best combination.

I stepped down from secretary to make that possible.

Nice try Robert. If you think it should go to Two step you had it in your power to influence it this way. You say one thing do another.

Yeah, that was the T3 Super Titans. Since they are modular, you can configure them specifically to do different things (combat, industry, exploration, etc...). Each configuration is very versitile seeing as how there are seven sub-systems. One of the exploration configurations allows you to place a 'Mass Generator' at each end of a Super Titan. You then fly the Super Titan into a wormhole and use the mid-ship sub-system to 'anchor' the ship in transit. Once this is done, you essentially have half of the Super Titan in the wormhole and outside of it in normal space. You then activate the mass generators on each end of the titan, thus creating a stabilization effect that keeps the wormhole from collapsing.

It's a very expensive solution but quite involved and awesome.

There, now you have a name for it. Enjoy!

A few fun WH facts:

* No local was almost not a feature; a last stand of sorts took by CCP Greyscale and myself place to make sure it stayed in place.
* Same thing with CONCORD being in C1-C2 class WH's. Can you imagine?
* The 'mass' mechanics came about because I was right in the middle of re-reading the Honor Harrington books.

As an aside, if you've never seen my presentation at FanFest in 2009, the first few minutes of it show the actual Powerpoint slides that our team used to 'sell' the WH feature to the executive board:

EVE Online Fanfest 2009 - Game Design Retrospective

You know I did :) I was pretty darn vocal about it too.

Super Titans???? This is what the CSM panel has to offer already .. I miss OVEGlove already.. :sadface:

To summarize:
1. The candidate who got almost as many votes as the three next best candidates is not on the CSM
2. The second-placed candidate was spurned by all of the CSM except its most annoying member for the position of chairman in favor of the seventh-placed candidate

The reasons for No. 1 are known. No. 2 truly baffles me. I was under the impression that Two Step has been a widely respected member of CSM 6. Is it because he was too close to The Mittani (who seemed to assume that Two Step would be chairman), and the rest of the gang feel that it's finally their moment in the light, now that the Emperor has been pulled down?

I guess there won't be any honest information about any of this in this thread. Maybe someone can direct me to other sources.

Anyway, this CSM is a farce. Those who lost the election are now in complete control of the CSM. And they're guys from proven RMT alliances, no less.

Hey now, calm down. That WAS a joke by Seleene. At least I'm pretty sure it was...

I hope so, but Seleene has made too many "jokes" that have needed to be clarified as "jokes" regarding Titans. Seleene needs to just stop talking about them unless she's serious. I think that should go for all the CSM members.

Also agreed, This CSM is just a joke. Seleene, you do not represent us because we did not vote for you. No matter how much you try to tell yourself different. Though PL may have the botting and RMT resources to fund this, we don't and now you propose a way to keep WH's locked open.....Supertitans..........What a joke already....

I'd like to understand how the candidates for each position were selected.

For instance, for the chairman position I would expect that the eligible members would be either:
- 2nd and 3rd, that is, Two Step and Elise
- 2nd to 7th, that is, Two Step, Elise, Greene Lee, Trebor, Kelduum, Seleene

I just don't understand why it was restricted to Two Step and Seleene. The same goes for the other positions.

I'd like to understand how the candidates for each position were selected.

For instance, for the chairman position I would expect that the eligible members would be either:
- 2nd and 3rd, that is, Two Step and Elise
- 2nd to 7th, that is, Two Step, Elise, Greene Lee, Trebor, Kelduum, Seleene

I just don't understand why it was restricted to Two Step and Seleene. The same goes for the other positions.

After some dusts settles the CSM is now in place.

Who does what in what capacity within the CSM is not important at all. You guys/girls/entities are there to work together and represent the playerbase when interacting with CCP.

Your actions this year will be in the spotlight due to the results of the elections. The burden is on you to do the right thing.
Mind you that you represent the entire playerbase and that includes the players that amassed 10,058 votes aswell.

Seeing as how Mittens played a role in solving unpleasant events in the previous year, it wouldnt be a waste to keep in touch with him in some form or fashion and discuss various idea's with him aswell. ( provided it doesnt interfere with any nda's of course).

This year will be the decided wether the csm will be a valid entity or go down in flames for many people out there.

Regarding the 10,058 duders who have no CSM rep, I do have good news. In CSM 6 Mittani and I agreed on practically everything. So I gotchu~

Regarding the 10,058 duders who have no CSM rep, I do have good news. In CSM 6 Mittani and I agreed on practically everything. So I gotchu~

So that means you'll be advocating ~death2allsupercaps~, right?