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Lilla Kharn
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Posted - 2008.11.05 11:22:00 -
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I really hate to beat the horse here, but it's something I believe that really needs looking into. The patch is in a week, and to be honest with the information we have been given it seems really lacking in content and seems more like a booster patch than an expansion. The black ops was released as a nerfed ship for the fear it would become overpowered. Granted I see that and respect that. But as it is now, it's not even feasible to fly. The only thing that needs to be done to it is add a fuel bay and the ability for covert cyno generators to be lit in a cyno jammed system. Ya, lowering the requirements on the covert cyno's to lvl 4 would be nice, but all we are really asking for is a way for it to be useful in combat.
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Jarne
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.11.05 11:32:00 -
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Edited by: Jarne on 05/11/2008 11:33:03 Do they still have no fuel bay on SiSi? Maybe the new Blockade Runners are meant to be their "fuel bays"? ;)
I think lowering the requirements for Covert Cynogen does not fit well with the ability to use it in cynojammed systems. Powerful ability which is very easy to skill? I'd say no. (Edit: By that I mean you can't have both. If favor the ability of lighting cynos in cynojammed systems.) - Success=Achievements/Expectations
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Lilla Kharn
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Posted - 2008.11.05 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Jarne Edited by: Jarne on 05/11/2008 11:33:03 Do they still have no fuel bay on SiSi? Maybe the new Blockade Runners are meant to be their "fuel bays"? ;)
I think lowering the requirements for Covert Cynogen does not fit well with the ability to use it in cynojammed systems. Powerful ability which is very easy to skill? I'd say no. (Edit: By that I mean you can't have both. If favor the ability of lighting cynos in cynojammed systems.)
It was more of one or the other, don't exactly think both should be there , only in my wildest dreams.
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Lilla Kharn
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Posted - 2008.11.06 08:01:00 -
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Any signatures? Comments? Reasons why it shouldn't happen?
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Virgo I'Platonicus
Ex Eventus Corpi
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Posted - 2008.11.06 08:15:00 -
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I agree that Black ops is at the moment and will be even with added feature underpowered ship and not worth skilling unless you really really really want to use the covert jump and jump bridge abilities.
Imo the content designers went astray with BOs a bit. It'd have had been better to create 2 different ships - 1 being a stealth BS, the other a jump bridging BS.
As it is in its current form, the BO are completely overpriced for their abilities, they want to do everything at once so they fail at being proficient at most of stuff they do (they can jump, but not far, they can bridge in people, but limited in numbers/size/class , which is ok, but the upper limit of bridged ships has to be upped / fuel cost lowered, the dmg output is less than any t1 counterpart, tank is ok on redeemer and panther only and that's only because they have so low sig rads, but still not a superb tank. Widow wants to be close range damage dealer and jammer at the same time, which is a no-no with current game ECM mechanics - you dont put widow in a close range situation with multiple hostiles - unless you go and shield tank it for an amount of time.
So the ability of additional fuel bay on BO atm only solves one problem and BOs should atm only be used by uberrich and those who want to lose it. Same for after patch. <3 |
sxndy
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.11.06 12:45:00 -
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It's a shame that something that sounded so exiting turned out be be a useless piece of junk.
That said, the time and resources used to devolop them would have most likely been wasted on nerfing something else, so in a way I'm glad they exist.
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InstantCoffee
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Posted - 2008.11.10 14:21:00 -
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Hi, I just want to add something:
Platin Insurance for Carrier costs about 250-300 million ISK (Please correct me if I am wrong). So the Carrier (just the ship) costs around 250-300 million ISK (If it is lost in the first 3 month). The Black Ops costs 500 million ISK and the insurance covers 100 million, so it costs 400 million. OH my god this ship costs nearly as much as a carrier and is weaker then a normal BS!
Afraid of overpowering them? They cost 500 million ISK! This is 5 times higher then the price for a Command Ship or a BS. And don't forget the skill requirements!
If I compare the requirements that are needed to fly and buy Command Ships with the requirements that are needed to fly and buy Black Ops, the Black Ops has to be a ship that has Power and not just a BS with a Jump Drive and a Cloak. |
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