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Aoife Baelish
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.11.06 11:40:00 -
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Edited by: Aoife Baelish on 06/11/2008 11:42:04
How are they doing?
Interceptors seem to complain about drones hurting them, but the Taranis, being a bit more resistant and having drones on its own, might be doing better about that, am I right?
Should I train for it? Will it do well in 1vs1?
Same for the Ishkur (And the Enyo for that matter, I didn't mention it because I assumed it will still be worse than its big brother)
Thanks. ---<---@ |

Suitonia
Gallente interimo
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Posted - 2008.11.06 11:53:00 -
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I mostly tested the Taranis, fly it a lot.
Taranis is great and will continue to do well in 1vs1's as it did previously. With the speed changes it has lost a bit of speed, I'm down to just under 4kms (one speed mod) on my blasteranis with navigation 5, acceleration control 4. You'll probably have to fit a two point scram now as opposed to the 1 point disruptor, due to webs being weaker and to counter other scrams. Need to hold down other inty's in your optimal to win in a Blasteranis.
It'll have a somewhat easier time when fighting ships bigger than itself, neuts and small drones will still slaughter it as they did previously but you should be able to enter a cruiser's webrange and get under their guns. Missles won't hit you for as much damage anymore at basespeed and medium drones are having their tracking decreased so you should have an easier time with those as well.
The Blasteranis more or less requires Thermodynamics to fight other interceptors though.
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Captain Falcord
Gallente Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.11.06 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Suitonia I mostly tested the Taranis, fly it a lot.
Taranis is great and will continue to do well in 1vs1's as it did previously. With the speed changes it has lost a bit of speed, I'm down to just under 4kms (one speed mod) on my blasteranis with navigation 5, acceleration control 4. You'll probably have to fit a two point scram now as opposed to the 1 point disruptor, due to webs being weaker and to counter other scrams. Need to hold down other inty's in your optimal to win in a Blasteranis.
It'll have a somewhat easier time when fighting ships bigger than itself, neuts and small drones will still slaughter it as they did previously but you should be able to enter a cruiser's webrange and get under their guns. Missles won't hit you for as much damage anymore at basespeed and medium drones are having their tracking decreased so you should have an easier time with those as well.
The Blasteranis more or less requires Thermodynamics to fight other interceptors though.
That's good to know. Are the taranis small drones enough to counter the light drones sent to you? ---<---@ JackFalcord |

Dr Sheepbringer
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Posted - 2008.11.06 13:49:00 -
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Probably not, because most "bigger" ships have more drones. Small drones will catch you.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.06 14:05:00 -
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Out of webrange, you will most likely be able to kill Warrior IIs before you die. I'll test it on SISI some more these days, although my drone skills are not optimal (am training them atm, drone interfacing V in 15 days).
In webrange, it doesn't matter of course as you'll be capdead in seconds, so don't think the blaster taranis will have a lot of luck vs bigger ships - neuts are mandatory now.
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Suitonia
Gallente interimo
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Posted - 2008.11.06 14:26:00 -
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Edited by: Suitonia on 06/11/2008 14:26:39 Yeah, more ships fitting neuts is going to be a problem. Maybe a cap injected Ishkur would do well, although I am somewhat doubting that you could get through something like a Cane's EHP before you run out of boosters.
Typically in the Taranis, you can kill a set of t2 light drones before you die. If your opponent micromanages them it can get tricky however.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.06 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Suitonia Edited by: Suitonia on 06/11/2008 14:26:39 Yeah, more ships fitting neuts is going to be a problem. Maybe a cap injected Ishkur would do well, although I am somewhat doubting that you could get through something like a Cane's EHP before you run out of boosters.
Typically in the Taranis, you can kill a set of t2 light drones before you die. If your opponent micromanages them it can get tricky however.
I'll have to test it out on SISI a bit later and see how cap-injected AF setups fare - I suspect preety badly with the dual neuts on them - but will have to see.
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Furb Killer
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.11.06 14:46:00 -
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Default ishkur setup uses a nos, and with fast cycling of small nos that works decent against med neuts, allthough not enough to keep your repper running.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.06 14:52:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 06/11/2008 14:53:59
Originally by: Furb Killer Default ishkur setup uses a nos, and with fast cycling of small nos that works decent against med neuts, allthough not enough to keep your repper running.
So far I have been able to turn off the scrambler via dual medium neuts vs nossing AFs just fine (takes about 20-30s of dual neut molesting) and after one missed scrambler activation, any frig hull just dies to turrets.
I haven't used drones in any tests however - I assume it would be very easy with drones doing damage to you while you absolutely cannot afford to do a rep cycle.
Will definitely do more SISI testing of course.
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Zhula Guixgrixks
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.11.06 16:15:00 -
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Anti-interceptor Taranis doing fine:
Hi: obvious Med: mwd/9km scram/web Low: your stuff
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Leon vanUber
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Posted - 2008.11.06 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Zhula Guixgrixks Anti-interceptor Taranis doing fine:
Hi: obvious Med: mwd/9km scram/web Low: your stuff
can i have your lowslots?
thats how ive been flying my taranis for the last few month already. but now im gonna have to rely on the honour warp disruptor 
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steveid
Killed In Action
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Posted - 2008.11.07 00:15:00 -
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i fly the taranis 80% of the time and never had to worry bout any other t2 frigate. I fought vs an ab 200 plate claw and in maybe 20 different fights with diff setups including ab, rail, blaster, double web, ab/mwd/scram and god knows what else i won once. I'm hoping it isn't the case but the ranis is not looking great atm.
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Prometheus Exenthal
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2008.11.07 06:29:00 -
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The changes widen the gap between overrated blasters and incredible railguns. I'm not worried at all  - FRIGANK|FRIGANK 2 |

Cpt Cosmic
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Posted - 2008.11.07 07:32:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko Edited by: Cpt Branko on 06/11/2008 14:53:59 So far I have been able to turn off the scrambler via dual medium neuts vs nossing AFs just fine (takes about 20-30s of dual neut molesting) and after one missed scrambler activation, any frig hull just dies to turrets.
if a AS pilot miss a single cycle and the enemy is burning away from the AS with a mwd, the AS pilot maybe should stop orbit and manual pilot to reduce angular velocity.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.07 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 07/11/2008 11:21:45
Originally by: Cpt Cosmic Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 07/11/2008 10:21:22
Originally by: Cpt Branko Edited by: Cpt Branko on 06/11/2008 14:53:59 So far I have been able to turn off the scrambler via dual medium neuts vs nossing AFs just fine (takes about 20-30s of dual neut molesting) and after one missed scrambler activation, any frig hull just dies to turrets.
if a AS pilot miss a single cycle and the enemy is burning away from the AS with a mwd, the AS pilot maybe should stop orbit and manual pilot to reduce angular velocity.
Once you're out of 6km range, which is very fast, it's GG for the AF pilot. He can no longer use the small nos, he most likely cannot switch on the AB (and without it, he's going to get tracked very very well) and definitely not the AB+rep and regardless of what he does now he's getting tracked very well. We can test it on SISI if you like.
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