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Mitchman
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Posted - 2004.07.04 23:30:00 -
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Edited by: Mitchman on 03/09/2004 00:20:24 Edited by: Mitchman on 04/07/2004 23:59:43 I've recently started using the escow system extensively, and as such I have a new view on it and I'm not "used to" problems with it. So, here are some improvements that would make it much more useful and easier to use:
- Never allow anyone to enter escow with empty description
- Make an option to get the name of the item, if a single item is entered, and use that as description
- Being able to search
- Make categories, just like in the market, where an item or items can be placed. You would need to add some more categories, like "not categorized" and "misc". Overall, it would make escows a lot more useful than it is now.
- Make Show All actually show all escows. I understand load on the server is the reason we only see the most recent escows, but with categories it would be easy to just get a single category when expanded (just like in the market) which would lessen the load on the server.
- A way to see the escows sorted after when they were added and not when they expire. Another column, that is.
- When a escow times out (and you forgot to take it off escow before it did), it ends up in a box in the hangar, making it impossible to add the same item to escow again. This is a major problem when you're 50 jumps away and must surely be a bug?
- Make an option to block all escows from a certain person (read: scammer)
- Give a warning when someone enters a escow with a 0.0 isk price that is public.
None of this would probably be a singificant job to implement, but it would be a major improvement for the people that use escow at all.
Edit: - Removed sarcasm, people didn't get it  - Block option - Warning on 0.0 isk price
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2004.07.04 23:30:00 -
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Edited by: Mitchman on 03/09/2004 00:20:24 Edited by: Mitchman on 04/07/2004 23:59:43 I've recently started using the escow system extensively, and as such I have a new view on it and I'm not "used to" problems with it. So, here are some improvements that would make it much more useful and easier to use:
- Never allow anyone to enter escow with empty description
- Make an option to get the name of the item, if a single item is entered, and use that as description
- Being able to search
- Make categories, just like in the market, where an item or items can be placed. You would need to add some more categories, like "not categorized" and "misc". Overall, it would make escows a lot more useful than it is now.
- Make Show All actually show all escows. I understand load on the server is the reason we only see the most recent escows, but with categories it would be easy to just get a single category when expanded (just like in the market) which would lessen the load on the server.
- A way to see the escows sorted after when they were added and not when they expire. Another column, that is.
- When a escow times out (and you forgot to take it off escow before it did), it ends up in a box in the hangar, making it impossible to add the same item to escow again. This is a major problem when you're 50 jumps away and must surely be a bug?
- Make an option to block all escows from a certain person (read: scammer)
- Give a warning when someone enters a escow with a 0.0 isk price that is public.
None of this would probably be a singificant job to implement, but it would be a major improvement for the people that use escow at all.
Edit: - Removed sarcasm, people didn't get it  - Block option - Warning on 0.0 isk price
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Garramon
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Posted - 2004.07.04 23:37:00 -
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I think escrow is just a temporary solution until they have the black market added. Otherwise, it is just an annoying market where you can package multiple things together.
Think about it....you add those things, and you pretty much just have another market. ------------------------------------------------
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Garramon
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Posted - 2004.07.04 23:37:00 -
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I think escrow is just a temporary solution until they have the black market added. Otherwise, it is just an annoying market where you can package multiple things together.
Think about it....you add those things, and you pretty much just have another market. ------------------------------------------------
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Kendrick
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Posted - 2004.07.04 23:44:00 -
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One word would solve all my escrow problems: Search.
Being able to search the escrows for a specific item would make finding what you want insanely easier.
/me gets down on his knees and begs the devs for a search box. ---------------------------------------------
Kendrick CEO, Galactic Manufacturing |

Kendrick
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Posted - 2004.07.04 23:44:00 -
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One word would solve all my escrow problems: Search.
Being able to search the escrows for a specific item would make finding what you want insanely easier.
/me gets down on his knees and begs the devs for a search box. ---------------------------------------------
Kendrick CEO, Galactic Manufacturing |

Mitchman
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Posted - 2004.07.05 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kendrick One word would solve all my escrow problems: Search. /me gets down on his knees and begs the devs for a search box.
 Added it to my list.
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2004.07.05 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kendrick One word would solve all my escrow problems: Search. /me gets down on his knees and begs the devs for a search box.
 Added it to my list.
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Kendrick
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Posted - 2004.07.06 02:37:00 -
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You can search the market, and as I understand it escrow is built on the same (type of) system, so I don't see how it would take a dev 100 hours of coding to add 1 little box hooked up to a database query.
I agree with you that 'show all' should show all, but since 99% of the time I know what I want to buy when browsing escrow, search would make that particular feature less needed IMHO.
Ok, I admit I'm just bumping this in the hopes anyone from CCP sees it and says "I passed this along to the escrow guy." ---------------------------------------------
Kendrick CEO, Galactic Manufacturing |

Kendrick
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Posted - 2004.07.06 02:37:00 -
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You can search the market, and as I understand it escrow is built on the same (type of) system, so I don't see how it would take a dev 100 hours of coding to add 1 little box hooked up to a database query.
I agree with you that 'show all' should show all, but since 99% of the time I know what I want to buy when browsing escrow, search would make that particular feature less needed IMHO.
Ok, I admit I'm just bumping this in the hopes anyone from CCP sees it and says "I passed this along to the escrow guy." ---------------------------------------------
Kendrick CEO, Galactic Manufacturing |

Teutobod
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Posted - 2004.07.06 07:26:00 -
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Blocklist and "Show more escrows from this pilot"
Because let us face it. Some pilots put up many usefull escrows. Block is so you can block all the lamers as you see them.
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Teutobod
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Posted - 2004.07.06 07:26:00 -
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Blocklist and "Show more escrows from this pilot"
Because let us face it. Some pilots put up many usefull escrows. Block is so you can block all the lamers as you see them.
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BaJaiah
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Posted - 2004.07.06 13:47:00 -
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Hmm - can we have this thread merged with http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=91142 
As you can see I agree with Mitchman, except for the basic item statement. You said it yourself, it's a pain in the *** if you need to fly to a station 50 jumps away to try and resell some stuff on ESCROW. That applies if you wanna give something basic (say a cruiser or some ammo) to a m8 who happens to be near the station where you got it stashed, but you are 50 jumps away...
Others are selling minerals etc. No harm in that...
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BaJaiah
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Posted - 2004.07.06 13:47:00 -
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Hmm - can we have this thread merged with http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=91142 
As you can see I agree with Mitchman, except for the basic item statement. You said it yourself, it's a pain in the *** if you need to fly to a station 50 jumps away to try and resell some stuff on ESCROW. That applies if you wanna give something basic (say a cruiser or some ammo) to a m8 who happens to be near the station where you got it stashed, but you are 50 jumps away...
Others are selling minerals etc. No harm in that...
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Liz Bathory
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Posted - 2004.07.06 14:12:00 -
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i think what he means is people who put a basic pdu, on escrow as the best named pdu, with a wrong descrition, for a huge pricetag...
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Liz Bathory
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Posted - 2004.07.06 14:12:00 -
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i think what he means is people who put a basic pdu, on escrow as the best named pdu, with a wrong descrition, for a huge pricetag...
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Cirle
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Posted - 2004.07.06 14:28:00 -
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The option to right click on an item in your hanger and add to escrow, which brings up the relevant dialog box, rather than having to search through all the menus for the right stations and items... :)
Cirle |

Cirle
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Posted - 2004.07.06 14:28:00 -
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The option to right click on an item in your hanger and add to escrow, which brings up the relevant dialog box, rather than having to search through all the menus for the right stations and items... :)
Cirle |

Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.07.06 14:42:00 -
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The escrow box thing was relevant when you could escrow for a month. NOW, it's just annoying.
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |

Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.07.06 14:42:00 -
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The escrow box thing was relevant when you could escrow for a month. NOW, it's just annoying.
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |

Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.07.06 16:12:00 -
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Remove all the scams, junk. + Limit what can be put into escrow. + Limit the number of escrows you can put up. = usuable escrow again. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |

Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.07.06 16:12:00 -
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Remove all the scams, junk. + Limit what can be put into escrow. + Limit the number of escrows you can put up. = usuable escrow again. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |

Mitchman
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Posted - 2004.09.03 02:17:00 -
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Updated the list.
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2004.09.03 02:17:00 -
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Updated the list.
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2004.09.07 19:26:00 -
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It would be nice of a dev could comment on if some of these issues are solved in the new market code in Shiva. If Shiva just features new bugs and doesn't take some or all of these issues under considering, myself and many others will be greatly disappointed.
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2004.09.07 19:26:00 -
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It would be nice of a dev could comment on if some of these issues are solved in the new market code in Shiva. If Shiva just features new bugs and doesn't take some or all of these issues under considering, myself and many others will be greatly disappointed.
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Toastmaster
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Posted - 2004.09.08 01:53:00 -
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Also when someone buys something from you add the description in the journal its offen hard to guess whats sold and not
"viper zulu > toast has killed our whole corporation ships at least once"
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Toastmaster
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Posted - 2004.09.08 01:53:00 -
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Also when someone buys something from you add the description in the journal its offen hard to guess whats sold and not
"viper zulu > toast has killed our whole corporation ships at least once"
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