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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.11.08 01:44:00 -
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OK CCP... thankfully we've got a got of time to work things out, and an important issue needs to be brought up now.
Lets go back to your 1st ambulation video you ever released, what was the biggest AWWWW factor you got from every interview? Well if I remember correctly it was the part where you get to see your ship!
Now I understand it seems pointless to let you see your ship when after one time as you say, you wouldn't do it anymore... However, who says it has to be your ship you see? Why can't there just be a docking area with dummy ships moving about or a ship museum where we can walk up and really understand the scale of these massive space vessels.
Listen getting to see your ship before you undock in real scale is important for every time you undock to me. Hell I would love for a fitting room to be put into ambulation which works the same way normally fitting ship works but you get to walk around while doing so looking down on your ship. 100% optional of course.
Or like I said just have SHIPS, any ships, docking, and undocking, for eye candy. I want to see what a rifter looks like when you stand below one as it flys overhead, this is important to me.
However what's important to me is not wroth a thread, So I'd honestly like to ask the community if they think they feature is something they think is needed in ambulation.
Ambulation haters well... we already know you wouldn't want it as you want no part of any of it :P and so no one has to says it, It's a completely different team working on it, it won't take away dev time from anything BUT ambulation. Which is the topic at hand.
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Yasmin Rei
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Posted - 2008.11.08 01:49:00 -
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I can just say I 100 % agree with the OP 
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Mica Swanhaven
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Posted - 2008.11.08 01:52:00 -
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Well I for one play eve for the spaceships, so if there are no spaceships in ambulation, even sitting ones, I won't enjoy it.
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Kransthow
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.11.08 01:54:00 -
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Where has ccp stated you won't be able to see your ship in ambulation?
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Neth'Rae
Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.08 01:54:00 -
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Originally by: Mica Swanhaven Well I for one play eve for the spaceships, so if there are no spaceships in ambulation, even sitting ones, I won't enjoy it.
So you don't play any other games that doesn't have space ships everywhere? 
I do Sigs, Banners and other Graphics for ISK. |

Dmian
Gallente Gallenterrorisme
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Posted - 2008.11.08 01:58:00 -
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Originally by: FanFest 2008 - BattleClinic Reports! A question was raised in the audience a bit later about why we couldn't walk to the hangar bay and look at our ship. Dev reply: Its a lot of development for something you'll only do when you get a new ship, and there were more important things to focus on.
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Kransthow
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.11.08 01:59:00 -
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:O
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Slash Harnet
Minmatar Fire Mandrill
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Posted - 2008.11.08 02:00:00 -
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I'd suspect the hold up is making ship models that still look good/detailed at that scale.
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Ticondrius
ANZAC ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2008.11.08 02:02:00 -
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Mica Swanhaven
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Posted - 2008.11.08 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: Neth'Rae Edited by: Neth''Rae on 08/11/2008 01:57:16
Originally by: Mica Swanhaven Well I for one play eve for the spaceships, so if there are no spaceships in ambulation, even sitting ones, I won't enjoy it.
So you don't play any other games that doesn't have space ships everywhere? 
Originally by: Kransthow Where has ccp stated you won't be able to see your ship in ambulation?
Probably something during Fanfest. But I brought it up ages ago, that we probably wouldn't see huge scale spaceships because they would have to remake the trinity models and textures to be used in such huge scale.
The space ships don't have to be right up close, they could even just be out a window or something. ANYTHING.
and I don't want spaceships everywhere, I want them where they belong.
FInal note as mothermoon has brought up before they have much better looking models than used in game. they did the same thing halo did. Plus in the trailers they use super high texture rez models that would break the game FPS wise. Get your hands on the art book to see what they REALLY made for trinity.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.11.08 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ticondrius This is win.
I hope you mean my idea and not the idea of not seeing your ship :P
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.11.08 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon Listen, getting to see your thread before you post in real scale is important for every time you post to me. Hell I would love for a posting room to be put into ambulation which works the same way normally posting works but you get to walk around while doing so looking down on your thread. 100% optional of course.
Yer right, where's the forums in ambulation? --
http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.11.08 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit
Originally by: MotherMoon Listen, getting to see your thread before you post in real scale is important for every time you post to me. Hell I would love for a posting room to be put into ambulation which works the same way normally posting works but you get to walk around while doing so looking down on your thread. 100% optional of course.
Yer right, where's the forums in ambulation?
LOL
for a second I thought I actully typed that 
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Barkaial Starfinder
Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.08 02:13:00 -
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I don't know about you guys, but i would see my ships on ambulation every day.
And you could make it so when you request for undocking, instead of a loading bar, show us the character entering the pod next to the ship.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.11.08 02:14:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon for a second I thought I actully tapped that 
I know how you feel 
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |

Sniper Wolf18
Gallente Apocalypse Ponies H E L I C O N
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Posted - 2008.11.08 02:32:00 -
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Originally by: FanFest 2008 - BattleClinic Reports! A question was raised in the audience a bit later about why we couldn't walk to the hangar bay and look at our ship. Dev reply: Its a lot of development for something you'll only do when you get a new ship, and there were more important things to focus on.
Like industrial patches, nanonerfs and the removal of ghost training!
 
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Kain Corleone
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Posted - 2008.11.08 02:54:00 -
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/signed. The number one thing I was looking forward to with ambulation was the ability to view our ship in comparison to ourselves. This is a feature that almost has to be implemented, olny becouse its what everyone wants. Thats like announcing the ability for ppl to own thier own small stations, but not be able to interact with it. We Need This, PLZ
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.08 02:59:00 -
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As is typical of additions to EVE, iteration #1 is never 100% of the final concept. It's entirely probable that future versions of Ambulation (or the first one, they're not even in alpha yet) will let us give our shippy ships a tummy rub in dock.
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Aokie
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.11.08 03:00:00 -
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Edited by: Aokie on 08/11/2008 03:00:40 Totally agree.
I remember that vid and it was raaaaad. :D
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OK USA
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Posted - 2008.11.08 03:04:00 -
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Only thing I was looking forward to in ambulation, I even remember a dev interview or a video put out by CCP stating that you WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE YOUR SHIP and its scale etc, and now they say you probably wont? :/
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Atius Tirawa
Minmatar Wreckless Abandon G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.11.08 03:12:00 -
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Edited by: Atius Tirawa on 08/11/2008 03:13:35 I agree with the OP - no only that, but I think you should be able to see the ships that are docked at the station and active. An empty station would have few ships, more crowed ones would have more.
People want ambulation to be ground-breaking. . .not some patchy thing. Store-fronts were a good direction, so a general docking area.
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.11.08 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: FanFest 2008 - BattleClinic Reports! A question was raised in the audience a bit later about why we couldn't walk to the hangar bay and look at our ship. Dev reply: Its a lot of development for something you'll only do when you get a new ship, and there were more important things to focus on.
Man, that's bull****! We have to have walking access to the hangars. Without the ship connection the whole ambulation might as well be a separate game. ...
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Oburn
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.11.08 03:14:00 -
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I was really looking forward to seeing the scale of the ship next to my Ambi character. Did they actually say they were not going to have something like that...Booo if they did. -----------------------------------------------------
If you melt dry ice can you swim in it and not get wet? |

Ruah Piskonit
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.08 03:22:00 -
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you made this this year again Winterblink?
I think the devs don't spend enough time playing the game. . .a lot of this game also invloves looking at the ships. I still get excited by the ships I have in my hangar and looking at capitals on the field. . .to think that is secondary begs the question - what the hell is? ----
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Elaron
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.11.08 04:33:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink As is typical of additions to EVE, iteration #1 is never 100% of the final concept.
The problem there is that, as is typical of additions to EVE, iteration #2 might not happen, or be pushed onto a back burner to allow iteration #1 of a bunch of other ideas their moment.
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Blyghme
Gallente BWR Gamers Legion of Honor
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Posted - 2008.11.08 04:44:00 -
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Originally by: Razin Man, that's bull****! We have to have walking access to the hangars. Without the ship connection the whole ambulation might as well be a separate game.
It is isn't it? Isn't it the base for the world of darkness MMO that they're developing?
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Dal Deinvisu
Ventis Secundis
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Posted - 2008.11.08 05:11:00 -
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Not being able to see your ships (even from afar) at that scale is terribly disappointing.  |

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.11.08 05:22:00 -
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Originally by: Blyghme
Originally by: Razin Man, that's bull****! We have to have walking access to the hangars. Without the ship connection the whole ambulation might as well be a separate game.
It is isn't it? Isn't it the base for the world of darkness MMO that they're developing?
That's a known fact; however that's beside the point. EVE is about internet spaceships, and so walking inside stations has to feel like walking inside space stations. Since space stations have ships docked to them, they need to be in evidence somehow. Even if it's only through the windows into the hangar space. |

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.11.08 05:28:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink As is typical of additions to EVE, iteration #1 is never 100% of the final concept. It's entirely probable that future versions of Ambulation (or the first one, they're not even in alpha yet) will let us give our shippy ships a tummy rub in dock.
I don't know blinky, this seems mightly different. This time the reason is, it's a "pointless feature". AS in why would the player want to. This goes abck to the quote about how players don't want to have a cool animation of docking and undocking.
Excuse me but maybe the players should tell CCP what they do and don't want.
And then maybe CCP should say something like
"we are doing this at 1st but we'll get around to it someday"
instead of
"WE decided it's something no one would want to use pass the 1st time"
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Mica Swanhaven
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Posted - 2008.11.08 05:29:00 -
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Edited by: Mica Swanhaven on 08/11/2008 05:29:36
Originally by: Dal Deinvisu Not being able to see your ships (even from afar) at that scale is terribly disappointing. 
Right, whats wrong with at least a window?
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