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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.11.08 20:44:00 -
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OVER 1500!!
Wait....
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.11.08 20:58:00 -
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Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 08/11/2008 20:58:17
Originally by: Esmenet Considering the tiny % reading the forums, especially the CSM forums, 1500 votes is a very big number.
Yes, for the CSM forums. However, in terms of people who actually play the game, no it isn't.
Edit: If you're attempting sarcasm, it didn't work.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.11.08 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Dez Affinity There is no other way to poll those people about the changes if they do not read the only form of inter-communication that works.
So? If they really wanted to know a survey could be conducted.
The forum is hardly accurate. Assume we have just alts, three characters on each account, 1500/3 is 500. And then god only knows how many people could just post with a second or third account. For all you know one person could be voting one way 9 times (three accounts, three characters on each one).
So there is no way you can draw any serious conclusion from this.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.11.08 21:21:00 -
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Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 08/11/2008 21:22:07
Originally by: Dez Affinity I know, that was partly my point, but in the same breath it's the only way to tell CCP that they are unhappy with the changes.
It really isn't. First, they have many stats to look at. Say all of a sudden Nanos go from like 10,000 sold a day, to 10 sold a day. That probably means something. And then again, there is a variety of other information they have.
Now, if they really wanted to, a simple mass emailed survey would be a better thing to do.
Originally by: Avon I've been here since beta, and I'm all for it.
How does it feel to be the oldest member of Bob who still logs in?
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.11.08 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: An Anarchyyt
The forum is hardly accurate. Assume we have just alts, three characters on each account, 1500/3 is 500. And then god only knows how many people could just post with a second or third account. For all you know one person could be voting one way 9 times (three accounts, three characters on each one).
So there is no way you can draw any serious conclusion from this.
You appear to be being deliberately dense.
You points over numbers of voters are utterly irrelevant. The system has been actioned on 150 votes (suicide ganking). That might have been (using your logic) 16 people. Yet CCP follow it up.
SKUNK
So what is your point? That 1500 is more than 150? Yes, 1500 is larger than 150, but that does not make it significant.
1.) Both numbers are far shorter than the amount of the playerbase, and not enough large enough to make it look like a cross section of the Eve population.
2.) Many people there have an agenda. In fact, the forums are a very specific part of Eve that the rest usually aren't like.
3.) Due to things like agendas, you can have 6 votes come from one person. That makes these numbers irrelevant.
Now, since I know you probably just skipped over anything that made sense, I will point out again, yes 1500 is bigger than 150. No, that doesn't mean anything other than 1500 > 150.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.11.08 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Dez Affinity Markets stats are all well and good, but I'd wage a bet that more Ravens are sold than Armageddons, that doesn't mean Ravens are over-powered. So while stats like that do aid the overpowered discussion it doesn't confirm it on it's own.
Which is why you need to look at it over a period of time. If you see a cliff-esque decline that would certainly mean something. Or, if you've seen something that doesn't fit in the trends at all, a total reshaping of the status quo.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.11.08 21:43:00 -
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Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 08/11/2008 21:43:27 Wow, you have some really horribly reading comprehension skills. It is really pointless to argue this with you because you have no idea what you're talking about.
"The reality" of it is that you just sound like a spoiled little brat who is upset because mommy took his toy away.
Then we can get into the discussion about how just because people didn't express their opinion in a thread makes the number even less significant. Saying, "I support this." also doesn't mean, "I don't support the other" or even "I don't care."
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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