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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.11.09 12:54:00 -
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I'm dissapointed at how short the "main" storyline was. I know if you do all the side missions it could take years to finish the game.
Anyone else feel like they could of intergrated the main storyline abit better with all the side missions? ________________________ I'M POOR
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Irulan S'Dijana
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.11.09 12:57:00 -
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So..standard Bethesda thingy then.
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ebonyivory
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Posted - 2008.11.09 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kaeten I'm dissapointed at how short the "main" storyline was. I know if you do all the side missions it could take years to finish the game.
Anyone else feel like they could of intergrated the main storyline abit better with all the side missions?
go die
the storyline may be short but it was good and its not like your forced to play thru it and its still longer than alot of storylines. the only bad thing is that you cant play after
e.g. call of duty can be done in like 7 hours so meh
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Gojyu
Ever Flow Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.09 13:28:00 -
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I've been playing fallout on and off for a week and I'm still far from "finishing" it. To be honest, I can't quite remember what part I'm up to in terms of the actual story, I'm just having a ball playing the game, rather than playing it to end it as fast as possible
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.11.09 14:02:00 -
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Welcome to the dissapointed by FO3 club.
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Lazuran
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.11.09 14:39:00 -
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I finished it after 2 days (weekend). Have played a bit on "Very Hard" afterwards but somehow it's not really exciting. Games like "Mount & Blade" have a much better replayability, but I can't explain why. Perhaps it's the fact that all fights are pretty much the same, in all areas you open the non-empty containers and loot and that's it (except in very rare cases where you need to "E" on some item to activate it). I don't know if it's the "console effect", but it just feels like a mindless "tag along" game.
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Draahk Chimera
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.09 16:10:00 -
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Im not that far in yet. But I love it. Awesome game. Bit on the hard side for me who sometimes have a long reaction time. But the paus+point gun at specific enemy works as long as I have Action Points. Aiming sawed off shotgun at enemies face at 1 meter with 94% success chance is always fun, especially when you shoot the head clear off :)
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Arvald
Caldari Ninjas N Pirates
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Posted - 2008.11.09 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: Arvald on 09/11/2008 16:21:20 after getting a set of enclave tesla armor, a plasma rifle and that big ass gattling laser + like 50000 ammo for it, slaughtering megaton rivet city the citadel and the republic of dave, ima go play eve 
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Deidranna
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.11.09 18:17:00 -
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i have played some 40+ hours now and have done 4 or 5 main quests :) there is so much to explore and to do, don't have the time to safe the world 
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Sniper Wolf18
Gallente Apocalypse Ponies H E L I C O N
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Posted - 2008.11.09 21:28:00 -
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/Strolls out of vault
Hey guys, whats going on?
F3=Great gaem
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.11.09 21:35:00 -
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I think the game is GREAT. was just dissapointed by the main quest that is all.
I like the idea of not being forced to play X amount of hours, but it just lacks... I was expecting at enclve place to escape go back restock then go in again and ruin that place. then prehaps find another geck and maybe the purifier not working actully deploying the geck somewhere.
Somehow related to the entire USA, not just some drinking water for the DC ruin gangs to fight over.
Apart from that, I loved every other aspect of the game, truly amazing! Pity you couldn't drive around or that the map was any bigger. ________________________ I'M POOR
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Brea Lafail
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Posted - 2008.11.09 21:59:00 -
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Seems to be the trend nowdays. Easy to "beat" the game, with lots of stuff on the side. Oblivion and Mass Effect being good examples.
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Kravick Drasari
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Posted - 2008.11.09 22:04:00 -
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I miss games that had incredible stories and plots that would take you 60 hours to complete with none of that bull**** run for 10 minutes to get from one destination to the other.
Not whining about nostalgia really. Just complaining that these video game developers have gotten really ****ing lazy about writing good stories. --- My cat Putter approves of this post. |

Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.11.09 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kravick Drasari Just complaining that these video game developers have gotten really ****ing lazy about writing good stories.
Thats how it feels in this case.
Anyone remember Deus Ex? THAT had a kickass story. Or even the 2 previous Fallouts. ________________________ I'M POOR
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Brea Lafail
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Posted - 2008.11.09 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kravick Drasari I miss games that had incredible stories and plots that would take you 60 hours to complete with none of that bull**** run for 10 minutes to get from one destination to the other.
People no longer have time (or the patience?) for 60 hour games. I used to love JRPGs more than my own life, but I haven't even played FFXII yet. Just not enough time.
There are still games with good plots, but they're more in the form of movie scripts than epic novels, e.g. FEAR, great FPS, great story, but short.
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Kravick Drasari
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Posted - 2008.11.09 22:16:00 -
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Edited by: Kravick Drasari on 09/11/2008 22:16:33
Originally by: Brea Lafail
Originally by: Kravick Drasari I miss games that had incredible stories and plots that would take you 60 hours to complete with none of that bull**** run for 10 minutes to get from one destination to the other.
People no longer have time (or the patience?) for 60 hour games. I used to love JRPGs more than my own life, but I haven't even played FFXII yet. Just not enough time.
There are still games with good plots, but they're more in the form of movie scripts than epic novels, e.g. FEAR, great FPS, great story, but short.
People have time. This generation is just incredibly impatient (I blame parents and the "charge it to my card" mentality). In a game with a save feature that can be used any where you like you will have all the time in the world to finish it at your own speed. I find time factor a very weak argument unless the developers do stupid **** like they did with Turok series and only put save points 2 hours away from each other. --- My cat Putter approves of this post. |

Brea Lafail
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Posted - 2008.11.09 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kravick Drasari I find time factor a very weak argument unless the developers do stupid **** like they did with Turok series and only put save points 2 hours away from each other.
I always thought savepoints were only used because of memory limitations (no longer an issue), but have been used to good effect in the past, I think (FFV last dungeon).
As for time issue. I don't want to spend 3 months on the same game. It'll just end up on my pile of "haven't beat yet" games, and that pile already has close to a dozen titles.
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Andrea Erlang
Caldari Erlang Biolabs
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Posted - 2008.11.09 22:37:00 -
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Also, can someone kill whoever wrote the ending? That was the worst ending ever, and I've seen a lot of it. 
SPOILERS AHEAD!
Sometimes I don't feel like sacrificing myself. And apparently, quoting this from a fallout wiki:
When the Vault 101 Dweller is faced with the climatic decision at the conclusion of the game, Fawkes politely declines to enter the irradiated room in lieu of the player, stating that is the player's destiny, not his.
Also, level 20 cap is horrible. I've still got half of the map to explore, and I don't see the point of doing it. The scaling is horrible. I never really got the feeling that I got better. Also some stronger weapons get unlocked way too fast. Which makes the game pretty boring towards the end, since even though you have a lot to discover, you're exploring new areas, it would be much nicer to just find a few interesting items. Something to make it worth while. I'm doing it just because I'm bored out of my skull, which is not a good sign. 
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Joseph 9
Dead Flesh Corp Rigor Mortis Mortalis
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Posted - 2008.11.09 22:53:00 -
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Being a bit of a fan of the first two games, along with Wasteland, I held off on getting the game and spent some time on the No Mutants Allowed Forum. Looks like I made the right decision holding off on buying it, by many accounts the game really is just Oblivion with Guns, and Oblivion sucked. Gimme Morrowind over it anyday.
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.11.09 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Andrea Erlang Also, can someone kill whoever wrote the ending? That was the worst ending ever, and I've seen a lot of it. 
SPOILERS AHEAD!
Sometimes I don't feel like sacrificing myself. And apparently, quoting this from a fallout wiki:
When the Vault 101 Dweller is faced with the climatic decision at the conclusion of the game, Fawkes politely declines to enter the irradiated room in lieu of the player, stating that is the player's destiny, not his.
Also, level 20 cap is horrible. I've still got half of the map to explore, and I don't see the point of doing it. The scaling is horrible. I never really got the feeling that I got better. Also some stronger weapons get unlocked way too fast. Which makes the game pretty boring towards the end, since even though you have a lot to discover, you're exploring new areas, it would be much nicer to just find a few interesting items. Something to make it worth while. I'm doing it just because I'm bored out of my skull, which is not a good sign. 
THIS ________________________ I'M POOR
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Deidranna
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.11.09 23:53:00 -
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Originally by: Andrea Erlang
[...] , since even though you have a lot to discover, you're exploring new areas, it would be much nicer to just find a few interesting items. Something to make it worth while. I'm doing it just because I'm bored out of my skull, which is not a good sign. 
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Illwill Bill
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2008.11.10 00:15:00 -
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I've been playing F3 almost non-stop for the entire weekend, and I must say that I've found the game to be awesome (though I regret adding the perk that makes the enemies explode, as it becomes somewhat silly after a while).
Finding the two skelletons holding eachother in a bed in Minefield made me go look for the nearest bomb shelter. Just in case.
10/10
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Jin Entres
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2008.11.10 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Joseph 9 Being a bit of a fan of the first two games, along with Wasteland, I held off on getting the game and spent some time on the No Mutants Allowed Forum. Looks like I made the right decision holding off on buying it, by many accounts the game really is just Oblivion with Guns, and Oblivion sucked. Gimme Morrowind over it anyday.
I don't really understand how so many fans of the classic fallouts are so against the new one. I guess what they say about never being able to please the fanbois has some truth to it.
Nevertheless, I am an avid fan of the previous parts and I have now played the new one for a little over 30 hours. It's a great game. Don't expect it to have every single element, detail or mechanic you liked in the previous games. It undoubtedly has several shortcomings that one can nitpick about. But despite them it succeeds in what most new games don't: it's captivating, breathtaking to look at, atmospheric and intelligent. The combat doesn't get dull fast like in so many other games because V.A.T.S. is so damn fun and also plain cool.
I used to enjoy long hours with single player games such as the fallouts, monkey islands, lucas arts games and final fantasies. At some point (and probably gradually) that changed and I now find it increasingly difficult to sustain interest like I used to. I've mostly preferred online games instead. I've played Fallout 3 for over 10 hours every day I've had it for these past three days. To me that says a lot about how well it can captivate your interest. ----------------------
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Kravick Drasari
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Posted - 2008.11.10 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Jin Entres
Originally by: Joseph 9 Being a bit of a fan of the first two games, along with Wasteland, I held off on getting the game and spent some time on the No Mutants Allowed Forum. Looks like I made the right decision holding off on buying it, by many accounts the game really is just Oblivion with Guns, and Oblivion sucked. Gimme Morrowind over it anyday.
I don't really understand how so many fans of the classic fallouts are so against the new one. I guess what they say about never being able to please the fanbois has some truth to it.
Because its nothing but eye candy now. The days of epic stories that draw you in and make you WANT to keep playing are long gone. Now we have idiot marketers in charge pushing the "graphics are king!" mentality on people and the new generation of kids has never experienced the old so they're just eating it right up. They don't know any better. If you show them an old school game they just cry "OMG the graphics are terrible! That game sucks!" without even asking what the game is about.
As the above poster said, I'll take Marrowind over Oblivion any day of the week. Oblivion was terrible by comparison save the graphics. The game was dumbed down so badly that axes where considered blunt weapons. I mean what the hell? And NPCs leveling with your character? Well there goes all feeling of advancement right out the window.
I don't buy games for shiny graphics. I buy them because they have a great story and are difficult to beat. Most games these days don't take much to beat. Couple of hours or 1 or 2 days and the game is over and done with. Replay has also been chucked out the window in most cases. They've also dumbed down the difficulty so much that the ending is practically handed to you. I miss fighting bosses like Lavos and Kefka that could put a real hurting on your ass. Something other than run up and hit it 5 times and win.  --- My cat Putter approves of this post. |

Jonny Lumi
Gallente Beasts of Burden
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Posted - 2008.11.10 02:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kravick Drasari
... text...
So true, all of that. -- * sigh * |

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.11.10 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: ebonyivory
Originally by: Kaeten I'm dissapointed at how short the "main" storyline was. I know if you do all the side missions it could take years to finish the game.
Anyone else feel like they could of intergrated the main storyline abit better with all the side missions?
go die
the storyline may be short but it was good and its not like your forced to play thru it and its still longer than alot of storylines. the only bad thing is that you cant play after
e.g. call of duty can be done in like 7 hours so meh
damn you even kinda agree that it should be different and he doesn't even say something like "I hate this game" and you tell him to go die?
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.11.10 09:11:00 -
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I haven't got around to playing Fallout 3 yet, but from what people say its a bit like STALKER, in the fact theres no linear path so you can get a bit mixed up in nothing.
Then again STALKER was a horrible, buggy game. I couldn't play it just because of how terrible it was.
I'll get fallout 3 anyway, terrible or not.. i need something to stave off boredom. Might as well be a game.
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Jin Entres
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2008.11.10 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kravick Drasari
Originally by: Jin Entres
Originally by: Joseph 9 Being a bit of a fan of the first two games, along with Wasteland, I held off on getting the game and spent some time on the No Mutants Allowed Forum. Looks like I made the right decision holding off on buying it, by many accounts the game really is just Oblivion with Guns, and Oblivion sucked. Gimme Morrowind over it anyday.
I don't really understand how so many fans of the classic fallouts are so against the new one. I guess what they say about never being able to please the fanbois has some truth to it.
Because its nothing but eye candy now. The days of epic stories that draw you in and make you WANT to keep playing are long gone. Now we have idiot marketers in charge pushing the "graphics are king!" mentality on people and the new generation of kids has never experienced the old so they're just eating it right up. They don't know any better. If you show them an old school game they just cry "OMG the graphics are terrible! That game sucks!" without even asking what the game is about.
Actually, I agree. I've even been vocal on the issue myself in the past. But Fallout 3 is still a terrific game and besides looking pretty it has intelligent content that draws one in better than 99% of other games currently on the market. If anything, we should call for more games like it. It's not perfect, but it's a big step in the right direction. ----------------------
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kor anon
Amarr Roflcoptorz Coptorcorp
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Posted - 2008.11.10 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Deidranna
Originally by: Andrea Erlang
[...] , since even though you have a lot to discover, you're exploring new areas, it would be much nicer to just find a few interesting items. Something to make it worth while. I'm doing it just because I'm bored out of my skull, which is not a good sign. 
available via bethesda's 'famous' additional download content soon.
oooh bramin armour?
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FireFoxx80
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.11.10 14:17:00 -
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I found the FO3 story quite compelling, I'd certainly rank the plot up there with HL2 and Ultima series.
However, I agree with the above. I completed the game and only did about 1/3 of the side-quests. I don't think I have any markers on the top-right of the map I found that although some sites are mentioned, there's no real reason to visit there (eg. the radio towers).
Open-ended games are much, much, better than RPG-on-rails like FFVII. However, when there's no reason or benefit of stepping off the path, what's the point*?
*I completed Fable in about 8h and returned it to the store the next day, not realising there was a ton of additional content.
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