Well CSM 1 being bad is a common myth told by the Goon leadership to its pawns. When (from the goon's perspective) what was "bad" is you didn't win.

CSM1 was pretty successful for CCP and the game at large. Extremely good press coverage, media relations. It worked well for me in the workplace too ironically - people were pretty impressed at my run as the first ever democratically elected chair of a massively multiplayer online game.

BBC taking democracy to the stars

New York Times on Virtual Democracy

Massively spotlight CSM1

Ten ton hammer on the process

And dozens more like these.

At least two members of CSM1 would go on to work for CCP. One went on to become a leading figure on the followup CSM2. We oversaw the successful implementation of PLEX into Eve online which has helped hundreds of thousands of players from poorer countries in the world to play the game despite the economic problems of their host countries.

It is a matter of public record the various gameplay improvements we advocated for Eve Online and I'm quite proud of the issues I advocated personally (such of which will probably surprise you when you tear your eyes from goonswarm propaganda and go look up the facts as they happened

And when my term was over I gave the final address at fanfest without bringing myself, the csm, or CCP and the wider player base into disrepute. I understand then as I do now that the role of CSM chair is to represent the game as an ambassador to the wider gaming media and show off the things that make Eve great (rather than wallowing in petty cyber bullying and mean spirited drunken nonsense.).

In many ways I think it is the degree to which the facts of CSM1's success are self-evident and undeniable that have made goon high command so rapidly addicted to smear attempts and making up nonsense about it ever since. It really stings that the CSM chaired by Jade Constantine, roleplayer and leader of a small alliance was a roaring success, while the CSM chaired by goonswarm's favourite son was a disappointing fiasco that ended in scandal and universal condemnation by anyone who is not a goon.

All the goonswarm can take away from CSM6 really are humiliating headlines like these.

Cyber bullying for applause

Goonswarm's attempt to cyber-bully massively

Investigation over mocking suicidal player

Harrassment mars Eves fanfest

And so on.

Take off the goonswarm blinkers and breath the fresh clean air outside the SA basement for a moment and see how the rest of the players and gaming media see you.

I don't think you are in any position to know precisely what your goonish brethen have said really. A horde is as a horde does - I find it rather ridiculous for anyone except the alpha dog in your community to say whats what really - the rest are just followers repeating the party line.

And as for the media writing retractions - I think Massively were very cowardly in stepping back from the "cyber bully" headline and they looked like a news site who had been legally-threatened by goons that week. That said the editor tried to win back some independent credibility by refusing absolutely to apologize to goons and going so far as to label the harrassment and spam mails as "cyber bullying" itself.

But its typically really to accuse a news site of having reported "shenanigans" as being responsible for all this. I really don't buy the "he was drunk" excuse - its clear that he planned the presentation months in advance and did precisely what h...

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You are roleplaying insects. I've heard you refer to yourselves in many many promotional goonswarm videos as bees and I've seen an attractive youtube presentation with little fabric animated bees dancing round a stargate that was highly rated by your general membership. At fanfest I met several goons who were even roleplaying bees in real life - they had little plush bee children with them and one chap was dressed up in a giant bee costume waving a goonswarm flag (with a giant bee on it). Even while I served on the CSM I often heard your illustrious leader (DARIUS) conversing with his second in command in a buzzing dialect and making rapid little tapping noises in channel pretending his fingers were mandibles. (Darius also looks a little like a Bee).

Further to in-game ideology - you are part of a swarm. You all serve the brain-goons. You present yourselves on this (largely) in character forum as idiot-level intelligence creatures without the ability to speak, argue or debate coherently and I acknowledge that must take quite a lot of dedication to the roleplay ethos of your organization. Look at the pure number of goonswarm threads with absolutely zero content produced in the last 24 hours! It takes champion roleplayers to so perfectly embody the mindset of tiny hive creatures toiling without conscious thought in banal labour of submission to the swarm.

So I salute your characterisation as vile bugs and horrible swarm things! Many in Eve asked for alien subspecies and you have finally provided the dramatic background for this.

Anyway. Lets not further derail this IC thread. If you want to discuss your roleplay with me further I'd suggest the general forum or maybe SHC.

If you don't care then remove my RL picture from your wiki.

If you don't care then remove the allegations of child-sex abuse.

If you don't care then it shouldn't be difficult for you to stop harrassing other players in real life over your serious business spaceship politics.

If you don't care then stop sending letters to the people I work with.

If you don't care then simply walk away and stop trying to drive a player away from the game because you are so completely :butthurt: over never winning internet arguments.

Its true I shoot regressive road-blockers in the face IRL.
But seriously that is a pretty intense wall of text to demonstrate how little you care.

You too.

Yep.

The goons take their spaceship politics VERY seriously.

I play a spaceship pilot who can never die and I hit on female characters that are also spaceship pilots.\

Now let's see howmany real females play and howmany socalled female characters I have hit on.

Wanna bet not all were female?

You play a male character, but how manly are you?