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Johncrab Minmatar XBeyond	Posted - 2008.11.10 12:30:00 - [1] Edited by: Johncrab on 10/11/2008 12:39:18 Edited by: Johncrab on 10/11/2008 12:38:26 The irony of the speed nerf: CCP introduces FW, with complexes that promote speed tanking. Everyone can use mwd, small ships can tank big NPC's by just orbiting around at insane speeds. People start to whine. All these nano ships escape all blobs without a problem. They run, they return, get a kill, run again and people get ****ed. Then they whine. They come to the forums and whine a bit, then more, and a lot more, until CCP listens. What CCP does next? A speed nerf that nerfs pvp in a insane way. No use saying adapt or dye, been alive for close to 4 years and this isn't the thing that will kill me. Also hardly ever flown a nano ship. The issue is that the speed nerf went way too far. But the important thing about this post is the irony... CCP nerfed speed when they where the ones to make it a issue in the first place. Tbh, I can't remember reading a speed whine before FW was introduced (never was a big issue at least). PS - Lol, pressed enter by mistake and posted a empty thread
Lana Lanee Minmatar	Posted - 2008.11.10 12:31:00 - [2] Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:59 Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:01 Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:02 Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:03 Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:04 Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:05 Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:06 Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:07 Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:08 Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:09 Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:10 Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:11 Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:12 Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:13 Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:14 Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:15 Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:16 Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:17 Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:18 Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:19 Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:20 Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:21 Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:22 Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:23 Edited by: Lana Lanee on 10/11/2008 12:31:24 typos
Potencial Complejo	Posted - 2008.11.10 12:31:00 - [3] the ironyy indeed
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.11.10 12:32:00 - [4] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 10/11/2008 12:32:12 Originally by: Johncrab Aye, this is very much ironic. Sorry, ironiic. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.11.10 12:48:00 - [5] Originally by: Johncrab CCP introduces FW, with complexes that promote speed tanking. Everyone can use mwd, small ships can tank big NPC's by just orbiting around at insane speeds. I find it very difficult to believe that was CCP's intention with FW plexes.
Johncrab Minmatar XBeyond	Posted - 2008.11.10 12:52:00 - [6] Edited by: Johncrab on 10/11/2008 12:52:40 Originally by: Seth Ruin Originally by: Johncrab CCP introduces FW, with complexes that promote speed tanking. Everyone can use mwd, small ships can tank big NPC's by just orbiting around at insane speeds. I find it very difficult to believe that was CCP's intention with FW plexes. Also, to gain a plex the only thing you need to do is hang in there for a specific ammount of time. You can use mwd, plus there's no need to kill npc's, only fly about for a while... if they didn't expected people to speed tank those plexes, then they have to be real dumb tbh
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.11.10 12:53:00 - [7] The ironyy is in that it's a speed nerf post and it came 8 minutes late My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.11.10 12:56:00 - [8] Originally by: Johncrab Also, to gain a plex the only thing you need to do is hang in there for a specific ammount of time. You can use mwd, plus there's no need to kill npc's, only fly about for a while... if they didn't expected people to speed tank those plexes, then they have to be real dumb tbh Why would they have even bothered with NPCs then? Waste of CPU cycles if they only expected a player to speed tank the whole thing and not actually risk their ship. But meh, this whole point is moot. Speed nerf tomorrow; see you on the other side.
Johncrab Minmatar XBeyond	Posted - 2008.11.10 12:59:00 - [9] Originally by: Sheriff Jones The ironyy is in that it's a speed nerf post and it came 8 minutes late Lol but only half funny. The tittle was corrected when I actually had the chance to write the post.
Gary Webb	Posted - 2008.11.10 17:12:00 - [10] Military experts are calling this a 'misspelling'.
Crackzilla The Shadow Order	Posted - 2008.11.10 17:23:00 - [11] Originally by: Johncrab Tbh, I can't remember reading a speed whine before FW was introduced There have been speed whines for years. It was mostly a 0.0 thing.
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden	Posted - 2008.11.10 17:57:00 - [12] Originally by: Johncrab (...) You should try the Vagabond before it's too late. Speed of a Rifter with medium turrets, mmm... sexy. Minmatar, unite ! Let's whine about passive tanks now ! Fetchez la vache !
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden	Posted - 2008.11.10 17:59:00 - [13] Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 10/11/2008 18:01:09 Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 10/11/2008 18:00:16 Originally by: Crackzilla Originally by: Johncrab Tbh, I can't remember reading a speed whine before FW was introduced There have been speed whines for years. It was mostly a 0.0 thing. stone-paper-cissors. Nano = paper. Nerf paper. They nerfed speed, because of it they nerfed webs, because of this, they will/are nerfing turrets tracking speeds, because of this they will nerf all tanks soon(tm) Oh man, Minmatar is gonna be the next Amarr. Fetchez la vache !
Imperian hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.11.10 17:59:00 - [14] Confirmed, Receiver of your stuff will be "Imperian" RAWR
Saint Lazarus Spiorad ag fanaiocht	Posted - 2008.11.10 18:00:00 - [15] Edited by: Saint Lazarus on 10/11/2008 18:01:02 Originally by: Johncrab Tbh, I can't remember reading a speed whine before FW was introduced (never was a big issue at least). Hehe you're funny Or wait...are you serious cause thats even funnier ----------------- My EvE Comic
Johncrab Minmatar XBeyond	Posted - 2008.11.10 18:21:00 - [16] Originally by: Saint Lazarus Edited by: Saint Lazarus on 10/11/2008 18:01:02 Originally by: Johncrab Tbh, I can't remember reading a speed whine before FW was introduced (never was a big issue at least). Hehe you're funny Or wait...are you serious cause thats even funnier There was the nano-phoon that was fixed with the changes to nanofibers and istabs. Then, there was the ocasional complaint with the guy that spends a couple of bil to have his interceptor flying at 30k m/s or more. Other than that, have you ever seen mass complains like one week in to FW? I'm sure you haven't. You're a funny guy too btw.
Asestorian Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.11.10 18:24:00 - [17] Speed was nerfed at least once before, long before "nanos" ever became a problem. CCP just don't want people using speed to ridiculous advantage. --- Originally by: CCP Atropos Destiny Balls
WhiteSavage Gallente Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2008.11.10 18:45:00 - [18] Speed will still be a huge asset. It simply wont be the iWIN button anymore. Likewise, as has been noted it is quite silly to imply that CCP promoted speedtanking in FW. ___________________________________________ ..My doctor says that I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore excused from saving Universes
Bronson Hughes ADVANCED Combat and Engineering	Posted - 2008.11.10 18:54:00 - [19] Originally by: WhiteSavage Speed will still be a huge asset. It simply wont be the iWIN button anymore. Likewise, as has been noted it is quite silly to imply that CCP promoted speedtanking in FW. They may not have promoted it directly, but they did set up an environment where it would flourish. Speed-tankable NPCs, complexes with size restrictions, new faction cruisers that were all made to be nano-fit, etc. Regardless, FW didn't cause the whole nano-rage, it was just the arena that drove it home in Empire. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne

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