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Jas Dor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.10 17:29:00 -
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Folk will bring mission running Drakes using FoF missiles all slaved together into one hi slot (so that FoF no longer blow do random damage to a dozen targets). Raven got nerfed but um have you hit the on board scanner in Caldari space recently. With the number of CNR's flying around out there you have to wonder if the Caldari Navy has any ships left.
Really Nano's got nerfed, the Raven got Nerfed for being overused as a mission running ship.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.11.10 17:32:00 -
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Havent checked myself on sisi, but from what i heard from those who actually tested a raven wont be much slower. If needed i add a target painter, or go back to navy mega.
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order
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Posted - 2008.11.10 17:35:00 -
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And drones still tear up the smaller stuff.
So cruise missile users will have some of the same issues as those running with torp ravens. The torp raven setups seem to do fine with the small stuff. I suspect the cruise missile users will adapt.
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Jim Sharpe
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Posted - 2008.11.10 17:45:00 -
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"adapt"... do you mean continue to pay for getting less? Some will, some won't.
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Dr NOe
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Posted - 2008.11.10 17:53:00 -
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 Originally by: Jim Sharpe
"adapt"... do you mean continue to pay for getting less? Some will, some won't.
Can i have your Stuff?
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Kell Braugh
Dawn of a new Empire
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2008.11.10 22:12:00 -
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The truth of the matter is that it was the cruise ravens that *****ed that they couldn't kill vagas/nanotars/etc.
So CCP in their infinite wisdom basically nerfed speed in general. Anything that remotly affects or is affected by speed is now at laughably extreme(-ly low) levels.
So now we have t1 industrials that can actually speed tank heavy missiles. Blasters that will have issues hitting anything sub-capital moving faster than stopped. And small scale pvp has really just become a turn-based mechanic of ships working at 25% potential damage output trying to be the one to get scram/web+web+web+target painter first and beat the other to final blow.
Speed gave Eve short run, on grid strategy. That is gone. In essence, any combat related activity involving damage has been 'speed nerfed' to just take 6 times longer with a predetermined outcome coined balance by CCP.
Stepping back, now is just the time to figure out which of your characters (if you have more than one that is) is closest to Amarr HACs and let the rest lapse.
Being Caldari spec'd through and through, my falcon is the only ship left that hasn't been nerfed to the point of just being a flying insurance scam.
I'd suggest short term gtcs.
P.S. WTS 19mil Minmatar-Spec'd ReconV/HacV Pilot for something more than a cyno alt. |
Malcanis
RuffRyders
Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.10 22:17:00 -
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Edited by: Malcanis on 10/11/2008 22:16:46
Originally by: Kell Braugh
The truth of the matter is that it was the cruise ravens that *****ed that they couldn't kill vagas/nanotars/etc.
So CCP in their infinite wisdom basically nerfed speed in general. Anything that remotly affects or is affected by speed is now at laughably extreme(-ly low) levels.
So now we have t1 industrials that can actually speed tank heavy missiles. Blasters that will have issues hitting anything sub-capital moving faster than stopped. And small scale pvp has really just become a turn-based mechanic of ships working at 25% potential damage output trying to be the one to get scram/web+web+web+target painter first and beat the other to final blow.
Speed gave Eve short run, on grid strategy. That is gone. In essence, any combat related activity involving damage has been 'speed nerfed' to just take 6 times longer with a predetermined outcome coined balance by CCP.
Stepping back, now is just the time to figure out which of your characters (if you have more than one that is) is closest to Amarr HACs and let the rest lapse.
Being Caldari spec'd through and through, my falcon is the only ship left that hasn't been nerfed to the point of just being a flying insurance scam.
I'd suggest short term gtcs.
P.S. WTS 19mil Minmatar-Spec'd ReconV/HacV Pilot for something more than a cyno alt.
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Kell Braugh
Dawn of a new Empire
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2008.11.10 22:23:00 -
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I am, got her (my minnie alt) at Amarr cruiser IV atm, starting the energy turret skills, etc. The PS was in jest.
It just sad when your main gets nerfed into being yet another falcon alt.
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Malcanis
RuffRyders
Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.10 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Kell Braugh
I am, got her (my minnie alt) at Amarr cruiser IV atm, starting the energy turret skills, etc. The PS was in jest.
It just sad when your main gets nerfed into being yet another falcon alt.
Apparently CCP were concerned that the last few Caldari pilots who aren't yet flying Falcons needed a little more... persuasion.
Still, at least we're not as stubborn as those minmatar pilots. Those guys just can't take a hint, ffs. |
Eternum Praetorian
Tupperware Party
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Posted - 2008.11.10 22:51:00 -
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I may be trolling but this may be my new sig for a while
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AlexeiShtukov
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Posted - 2008.11.12 00:08:00 -
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I am not sure of this is a mistake or not but I noticed that explosion velocity of cruise missiles is actually slower than torpedoes.
Explosion velocity of cruise missiles is 69m/s VS 71m/s for torpedoes.
Just my 2 cents.
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