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ghost st
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Posted - 2008.11.12 05:58:00 -
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The new gate are 5x bigger than the old ones, and the bubbles are like 1/3 smaller. Small bubble are now pointless as the gate are soo large that you cant catch most decloak points. And medium ones now serve the role of the old smalls.
Hictors/dictors wont even be able to lock down the gate, and will only be somewhat useful to tackle titans, and as mobile slings.
You cant even lock down a gate with a T2 large bubble FFS.
Did you even think to test the bubble changes with the new gates? WTF were you smoking.
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Aloriana Jacques
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2008.11.12 05:59:00 -
[2]
Go camp a smaller gate, or adapt.
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tarin adur
Gallente
Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2008.11.12 05:59:00 -
[3]
Edited by: tarin adur on 12/11/2008 05:59:33
Camp the exit gates to 0.0 instead of the entrance gates? Get a lachesis? Get decent tacklers? Get a Hictor?
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WhiteSavage
Gallente
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:00:00 -
[4]
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This thread is now about Darth Vader.
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Aloriana Jacques
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:00:00 -
[5]
 Originally by: WhiteSavage
This thread is now about Darth Vader.
He was a wimp who couldn't adapt.
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Neth'Rae
Gallente
Decorum Inc
Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:01:00 -
[6]
Edited by: Neth''Rae on 12/11/2008 06:01:14
Good to see that gates now got tactical differences aswell..
Makes it harder to camp border gates into 0.0.
I do Sigs, Banners and other Graphics for ISK. |
ghost st
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:01:00 -
[7]
They are called chokepoints for a reason how is it even a chokepoint if you cant choke it off
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Edible Bandaid
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:01:00 -
[8]
So is it proven that Vader is Luke's biological father? Or could he be like a stepfather?
WHHYYYYYY |
Solomon XI
Hoist The Colors.
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:01:00 -
[9]
Tech-II Large Bubble. 
Use the best or don't camp.
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:02:00 -
[10]
Originally by: WhiteSavage
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This thread is now about Darth Vader.
Why derail the thread when we can extract so much lulz from the OP's silly view of reality
Anyhow, boohoo, you might have to expend a slight bit of effort to anchor more than one bubble
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tarin adur
Gallente
Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:02:00 -
[11]
Well....unless you camp dead ends...there's probably more then 1 gate.
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Stephen HB
Mystical Knights
Legionnaire Services Ltd.
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:03:00 -
[12]
Originally by: Edible Bandaid
So is it proven that Vader is Luke's biological father? Or could he be like a stepfather?
Unless Padme was getting some strange, pretty sure it's Vader.
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Neth'Rae
Gallente
Decorum Inc
Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:03:00 -
[13]
Originally by: ghost st
They are called chokepoints for a reason how is it even a chokepoint if you cant choke it off
You can, it just takes more effort which it should..
Also, I'm glad I bought 2x Lachesis for 35mil just after the nano-nerf was announced.
I do Sigs, Banners and other Graphics for ISK. |
Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:05:00 -
[14]
Diddums!
0.0 no skill bubble camps are borked!!!
NOW WE WILL HAVE TO LEARN TO TACKLE LIKE LOWSEC PILOTS
SKUNK
Originally by: CCP Navigator
People who think I am joking or talking big are going to understand very quickly that there will be order
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ghost st
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:06:00 -
[15]
Originally by: Solomon XI
Tech-II Large Bubble.
Use the best or don't camp.
Tried it, a t2 large wont even cover the whole thing
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Solomon XI
Hoist The Colors.
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:08:00 -
[16]
Originally by: ghost st
Originally by: Solomon XI
Tech-II Large Bubble.
Use the best or don't camp.
Tried it, a t2 large wont even cover the whole thing
... ... ... FAIL!
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Nebulous
Minmatar
Thukker Insurgents
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:08:00 -
[17]
Originally by: ghost st
The new gate are 5x bigger than the old ones, and the bubbles are like 1/3 smaller. Small bubble are now pointless as the gate are soo large that you cant catch most decloak points. And medium ones now serve the role of the old smalls.
Hictors/dictors wont even be able to lock down the gate, and will only be somewhat useful to tackle titans, and as mobile slings.
You cant even lock down a gate with a T2 large bubble FFS.
Did you even think to test the bubble changes with the new gates? WTF were you smoking.
*Nebulous passes Ghost st tisuue*
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Allen Ramses
Caldari
Typo Corp
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:09:00 -
[18]
Originally by: WhiteSavage
This thread is now about Darth Vader.
MY RAVEN WAS EQUIPPED WITH THE FOLLOWING:
4x Ion Engine
1x Damage Control
6x Mammoth Shield Injector
6x 40GW XenoLaser blasters
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Solomon XI
Hoist The Colors.
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:12:00 -
[19]
Just calculated a GREAT FIX:
Four Tech-II Large Bubbles in the following pattern:
[Bubble] [Bubble]
<gate>
[Bubble] [Bubble]
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ingenting
20th Legion
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:14:00 -
[20]
Originally by: WhiteSavage
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This thread is now about Darth Vader.
enemy has high ground, u lose
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tarin adur
Gallente
Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:17:00 -
[21]
Originally by: Solomon XI
Just calculated a GREAT FIX:
Four Tech-II Large Bubbles in the following pattern:
[Bubble] [Bubble]
<gate>
[Bubble] [Bubble]
Somebody get this man a beer,he just solved one of eve's greatest problems.
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Neth'Rae
Gallente
Decorum Inc
Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:18:00 -
[22]
It's a great change imo, makes tacklers other than hics more useful.
Bubblecamps were too much ezmode anyway..
So seriously, stop whining, and adapt.
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Holy Lowlander
Comply Or Die
G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:21:00 -
[23]
lol ccp realy realy realy hates small gang warfare ....
killing nano's was a rather large nail in the coffin. So you get sniperhac gangs now.
Sniperhacs heavily depend on bubbles. But you need 2-3 dictors (with dual launchers) to decently bubble down a gate . Wich takes too much time and leaves you with 2 sniper HACs less for your dps. (small gang , it matters)
now you got to use multiple static bubbles on a gate , wich is far from ideal for roaming. So you would need closerange ships with tackle instead of your sniper hacs.
wich get *omg blobbed* way too easily. And with the range on the gates increasing .. it takes more time to reach to your target as a tackeler as your speed is lowered ....
R.I.P. small gang warfare as of 12 november 2 GMT.
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Solomon XI
Hoist The Colors.
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:25:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Neth'Rae
It's a great change imo, makes tacklers other than hics more useful.
Bubblecamps were too much ezmode anyway..
So seriously, stop whining, and adapt.
I fully endorse this product, service, and/or opinion.
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Niraco79
Gallente
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:27:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Holy Lowlander
lol ccp realy realy realy hates small gang warfare ....
killing nano's was a rather large nail in the coffin. So you get sniperhac gangs now.
Sniperhacs heavily depend on bubbles. But you need 2-3 dictors (with dual launchers) to decently bubble down a gate . Wich takes too much time and leaves you with 2 sniper HACs less for your dps. (small gang , it matters)
now you got to use multiple static bubbles on a gate , wich is far from ideal for roaming. So you would need closerange ships with tackle instead of your sniper hacs.
wich get *omg blobbed* way too easily. And with the range on the gates increasing .. it takes more time to reach to your target as a tackeler as your speed is lowered ....
R.I.P. small gang warfare as of 12 november 2 GMT.
nope is just favour well balanced gangs instead of onetypeiwinbutton gang....so adapt
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Haakelen
Gallente
Fire Mandrill
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:28:00 -
[26]
Because nobody killed anything in 0.0 before bubbles. At all.
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Neth'Rae
Gallente
Decorum Inc
Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:35:00 -
[27]
Originally by: Holy Lowlander
lol ccp realy realy realy hates small gang warfare ....
killing nano's was a rather large nail in the coffin. So you get sniperhac gangs now.
Sniperhacs heavily depend on bubbles. But you need 2-3 dictors (with dual launchers) to decently bubble down a gate . Wich takes too much time and leaves you with 2 sniper HACs less for your dps. (small gang , it matters)
now you got to use multiple static bubbles on a gate , wich is far from ideal for roaming. So you would need closerange ships with tackle instead of your sniper hacs.
wich get *omg blobbed* way too easily. And with the range on the gates increasing .. it takes more time to reach to your target as a tackeler as your speed is lowered ....
R.I.P. small gang warfare as of 12 november 2 GMT.
But maybe small gangs arn't supposed to lock down big gates.
Find more suitable spots for sniper ambushes.
But yeah, I'm sure that changing like 5% of the gates in EVE is going to kill small gang warfare.
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OffBeaT
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:45:00 -
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yea, well they gota do somthing about that gate huggin becouse it getting to be a worp bubble drag..
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Ris Dnalor
Minmatar
Ex Cruoris Libertas
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:55:00 -
[29]
to be clear, are all gates 5x bigger or just some, and if just some, then which ones? random? region to region gates?
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:58:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Ris Dnalor
to be clear, are all gates 5x bigger or just some, and if just some, then which ones? random? region to region gates?
Reading the patchnotes would be a VERY good start...
"Gates which are currently Smuggler stargates will remain so.
Gates between systems in the same constellation will use Small gates.
Gates between systems in different constellations in the same region will use Medium gates.
Gates between systems in different regions will use Large gates."
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Neth'Rae
Gallente
Decorum Inc
Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.12 07:00:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Ris Dnalor
to be clear, are all gates 5x bigger or just some, and if just some, then which ones? random? region to region gates?
Well there are regular gates within a region, and highway gates between regions and then border gates between empires and lowsec -> nullsec.
The border gates are the ones that are maybe 4 times bigger..
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.11.12 07:00:00 -
[32]
Well the older gates WERE too small, now camping a gate is tactical, not just "drop bubble, oh! Get on that hauler pew, get on that hauler pew!" 
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Pandora Pirinello
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Posted - 2008.11.12 07:00:00 -
[33]
Camping bores me badly, this is a good move by CCP in my opinion, make the high sec hugging nub bags move around a bit if they want to kill every ibis/shuttle scout coming to 0.0
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Ris Dnalor
Minmatar
Ex Cruoris Libertas
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Posted - 2008.11.12 07:02:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Ris Dnalor
to be clear, are all gates 5x bigger or just some, and if just some, then which ones? random? region to region gates?
Reading the patchnotes would be a VERY good start...
"Gates which are currently Smuggler stargates will remain so.
Gates between systems in the same constellation will use Small gates.
Gates between systems in different constellations in the same region will use Medium gates.
Gates between systems in different regions will use Large gates."
Thanks Akita T.
/emote shuffles off to finish reading patch notes.
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Yelan Zhou
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.12 07:16:00 -
[35]
I find the OPs lack of faith disturbing.
War. War never changes.
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DeadDuck
Amarr
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.12 07:21:00 -
[36]
Originally by: ghost st
You cant even lock down a gate with a T2 large bubble FFS.
Go grab another buble or 2 ? 
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Joe
Umbra Legion
Shadow Empire.
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Posted - 2008.11.12 07:38:00 -
[37]
Originally by: tarin adur
Originally by: Solomon XI
Just calculated a GREAT FIX:
Four Tech-II Large Bubbles in the following pattern:
[Bubble] [Bubble]
<gate>
[Bubble] [Bubble]
Somebody get this man a beer,he just solved one of eve's greatest problems.
That would be great if eve was a boardgame, or if everyone was restricted to a single plane, think you might need 2 more bubbles mate
Umbra Legion Is recruiting!
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Spyra Gryra
Cruoris Seraphim
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Posted - 2008.11.12 07:42:00 -
[38]
buhu adapt or die. I love your tears
you're just ****ed off your overpowered gate camping got nerfed hahahahaha.
Time to play the real game 
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Mikal Drey
Minmatar
ORIGIN SYSTEMS
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.12 07:52:00 -
[39]
warp from here > > > > >> >> gate >> > > > > bubble
pull bubbles ftw
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Amartius
ANZAC ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2008.11.12 07:53:00 -
[40]
Ways to solve it. :-)
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Davina Braben
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Posted - 2008.11.12 07:54:00 -
[41]
Originally by: ghost st
A bloo bloo bloo. A blub a bloo bloo. A blub blub blub bloo.
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Raguun
LDK
Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2008.11.12 08:13:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Ris Dnalor
to be clear, are all gates 5x bigger or just some, and if just some, then which ones? random? region to region gates?
Reading the patchnotes would be a VERY good start...
"Gates which are currently Smuggler stargates will remain so.
Gates between systems in the same constellation will use Small gates.
Gates between systems in different constellations in the same region will use Medium gates.
Gates between systems in different regions will use Large gates."
Nice, now I see the point. Will take so extra thinking and inovativness for ppl who just hate to use that part of their body
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imo vestuff
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Posted - 2008.11.12 08:21:00 -
[43]
how to use a small bubble:
X --->-O->--b
X = place someone might come from
O = Gate
b = place where the bubble should be.
place the bubble BEHIND the warpto, in a line on the same grid, et voila, they work.
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Krxon Blade
Apogee Group
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Posted - 2008.11.12 08:23:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Amartius
Ways to solve it. :-)
Darn! I've just been myminicityed. 
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Lady Aja
Caldari
Ore Mongers
Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.11.12 08:26:00 -
[45]
Originally by: ghost st
Whaaaaa whaaaaa whaaaa whaaaa whambulance....
You do KNOW how to use dictors or hictors and bubbles yeah?
bubbles place before a gate of after a gate inline with another gate in a bottle neck system work well.
just because you cant lock down a gate try somethign NEW! like engaging youre brains.
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Lady Aja
Caldari
Ore Mongers
Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.11.12 08:30:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Joe
Originally by: tarin adur
Originally by: Solomon XI
Just calculated a GREAT FIX:
Four Tech-II Large Bubbles in the following pattern:
[Bubble] [Bubble]
<gate>
[Bubble] [Bubble]
Somebody get this man a beer,he just solved one of eve's greatest problems.
That would be great if eve was a boardgame, or if everyone was restricted to a single plane, think you might need 2 more bubbles mate
I agree there Joe.
Multiple bubbles on different axis planes to lock down a gate. use 6 LARGE t2 bubbles.
top/bottom ( 1 & 2 )
front/behind ( 3 & 4 )
Left and right sides ( 5 & 6 )
that should lock down most gates if placed with intelligence .
Many kudos to Foulque for my sig.. |
Bad Harlequin
Minmatar
The Harlequinade
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Posted - 2008.11.12 08:36:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Akita T
Reading the patchnotes would be a VERY good start...
Heretic!
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Stephen HB
Mystical Knights
Legionnaire Services Ltd.
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Posted - 2008.11.12 12:26:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Lady Aja
Originally by: Joe
Originally by: tarin adur
Originally by: Solomon XI
Just calculated a GREAT FIX:
Four Tech-II Large Bubbles in the following pattern:
[Bubble] [Bubble]
<gate>
[Bubble] [Bubble]
Somebody get this man a beer,he just solved one of eve's greatest problems.
That would be great if eve was a boardgame, or if everyone was restricted to a single plane, think you might need 2 more bubbles mate
I agree there Joe.
Multiple bubbles on different axis planes to lock down a gate. use 6 LARGE t2 bubbles.
top/bottom ( 1 & 2 )
front/behind ( 3 & 4 )
Left and right sides ( 5 & 6 )
that should lock down most gates if placed with intelligence .
Well, a 6 bubble cubic face is one pattern, I think a 4-bubble tetrahedron would do the job also.
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Originally by: Adonis 4174
You killed him to annoy him. He self-destructed to annoy you. You're annoyed thus he wins.
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Jeirth
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.11.12 12:36:00 -
[49]
4 bubbles would leave "dimples" which could be exploited easily.
I don't sell t2 large bubbles, noooooooo!
>.>
<.<
Or maybe I do.
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Scardin
Minmatar
Malum Crusis
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.11.12 12:36:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Allen Ramses
Originally by: WhiteSavage
This thread is now about Darth Vader.
MY RAVEN WAS EQUIPPED WITH THE FOLLOWING:
4x Ion Engine
1x Damage Control
6x Mammoth Shield Injector
6x 40GW XenoLaser blasters
Originally by: Allen Ramses
6x 40GW XenoLaser blasters
Originally by: Allen Ramses
40GW XenoLaser blasters
Originally by: Allen Ramses
40GW XenoLaser
Originally by: Allen Ramses
40GW
Originally by: Allen Ramses
GW
GREAT SCOT!!
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Lady Vorax
Amarr
Infusion.
G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.11.12 12:39:00 -
[51]
insta lock tacklers 4tw!!!111!!11
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Mike Takumi
Caldari
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.11.12 12:40:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Solomon XI
Just calculated a GREAT FIX:
Four Tech-II Large Bubbles in the following pattern:
[Bubble] [Bubble]
<gate>
[Bubble] [Bubble]
In other news, space has become 2 dimensional
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Zitus
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Posted - 2008.11.12 12:40:00 -
[53]
So wait, I always thought the best way to camp a gate was to wait out about 1000km in the gereal direction of a high trafic area and bubble there, I mean, the Exit vector angle cant be THAT large that ships get away....
or am i nub cake? Im thinking the latter actually...
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Schani Kratnorr
x13
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Posted - 2008.11.12 12:40:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Holy Lowlander
R.I.P. small gang warfare as of 12 november 2 GMT.
Small gang warfare died a few times already, are you sure it is not the re-animated corpse of small gang warfare, that has been laid to rest this time around?
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ghost st
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Posted - 2008.11.13 23:57:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Niraco79
Originally by: Holy Lowlander
lol ccp realy realy realy hates small gang warfare ....
killing nano's was a rather large nail in the coffin. So you get sniperhac gangs now.
Sniperhacs heavily depend on bubbles. But you need 2-3 dictors (with dual launchers) to decently bubble down a gate . Wich takes too much time and leaves you with 2 sniper HACs less for your dps. (small gang , it matters)
now you got to use multiple static bubbles on a gate , wich is far from ideal for roaming. So you would need closerange ships with tackle instead of your sniper hacs.
wich get *omg blobbed* way too easily. And with the range on the gates increasing .. it takes more time to reach to your target as a tackeler as your speed is lowered ....
R.I.P. small gang warfare as of 12 november 2 GMT.
nope is just favour well balanced gangs instead of onetypeiwinbutton gang....so adapt
Well balanced is one thing, blobbing is another. Usual small gang is a hictor/dictor, with a few hacs/recons, and a few ceptors. How more balanced do you want?
We need actual balance, not moar blobbing to fix the balance issue.
RIP Small gang warfare
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Daitanfutekina Unsoya
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Posted - 2008.11.14 00:07:00 -
[56]
use more bubbles, stop being a whiney little _whatever_
but yeah, rip small gang / solo ships
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.11.14 00:10:00 -
[57]
Originally by: tarin adur
Get decent tacklers?
You call
Slade
Originally by: Crumplecorn
NerfBat is now known as the WaveMachine.
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Josef Odinssen
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Posted - 2008.11.14 00:16:00 -
[58]
gatecamper tears.
this thread delivers!
oh noes, someones come along and burst my bubbles!
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Bohoba
Caldari
HolyKnights
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Posted - 2008.11.14 01:49:00 -
[59]
I love the amarr gate that orange spher swirling into white then shooting off, man I get a hard on watching that :) oooopsss just shot a load :)
10.5 hours a day do you have what it takes ?
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Seth Ruin
Minmatar
Ominous Corp
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.11.14 01:54:00 -
[60]
ITT: OP admits he's a nubcake.
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