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Prometheus Exenthal Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.11.13 06:00:00 - [1] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Yeah, this is a comedy setup. It really isn't.. Your 75mm fit is a comedy setup - FRIGANK\|FRIGANK 2
Prometheus Exenthal Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.11.13 07:36:00 - [2] Merin, you fail on multiple levels. OP, there's nothing wrong with your fit. I would change the web for a passive EM mod though. MWD on an AF is still suicide, don't let anyone tell you different. - FRIGANK\|FRIGANK 2
Prometheus Exenthal Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.11.13 08:00:00 - [3] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 13/11/2008 07:50:42 Originally by: Prometheus Exenthal MWD on an AF is still suicide, don't let anyone tell you different. *Not* fitting a MWD is suicide. Without a MWD, cruisers are faster than you. So what are they going to do once I'm webbed? Tickle my ship with drones which are killed faster than they are deployed? Blah blah neuts etc, that's why my Ishkurs are all boosted AND run a nos. SOME ships (ie: gank fit anything) don't fit neuts and orbiting under guns is a peice of cake. Obviously he is flying a Harpy and not an Ishkur, but my point is that w/ an MWD all you're doing is nuking your cap, sig radius, maneuverability, and fitting. ~900m/s(~1200m/s) with an AB is plenty. You aren't a tackling ship. You aren't a solopwnmobile. Stop trying to fit as such. Sidenote: I can guarantee if that if you were to use your 75mm railgun lolfit vs the OPs fit, you wouldn't be able to kill him. In fact I can predict that you would run off (or call for help) when you realized his tank wasn't breaking. - FRIGANK\|FRIGANK 2
Prometheus Exenthal Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.11.13 08:17:00 - [4] Edited by: Prometheus Exenthal on 13/11/2008 08:17:28 LOL @ drones vs inty comment.. Fly a crusader ffs, then laugh at all the drones thrown at you. I'd like to see your super-mobile cruiser that can keep in weapon range (and do reasonable dps), keep point and range w/ mwd running. A cruiser in web range is going nowhere. A cruiser "maintaining range" w/ an mwd running caps out long before a (skilled) AF is dead. Not to mention the old burn away then turn around trick. If a cruiser were trying to maintain range, an AF can EASILY catch it with that handy bit of manuevering. - FRIGANK\|FRIGANK 2
Prometheus Exenthal Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.11.13 17:45:00 - [5] Originally by: Omarvelous Originally by: Prometheus Exenthal Glad to see a guy in a pirate corp agree with me. I think you 'get' what type of situations this ship setup will work in. Is Kavu still flying with you guys? Pretty much. Being a flashy means you get to choose where fights take place Kavu hasn't been around in a while - FRIGANK\|FRIGANK 2
Prometheus Exenthal Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.11.18 18:18:00 - [6] Edited by: Prometheus Exenthal on 18/11/2008 18:23:48 Edited by: Prometheus Exenthal on 18/11/2008 18:18:15 THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH YOUR SETUP An ABing Jag/Wolf is a much greater threat than an MWDing one simply because you can do the old turn around and scram (not web :P) trick and get a free kill. With the AB fits they just power back at range. As a pilot who specializes in flying frigates, I can say there is NOTHING wrong with your setup. Don't fit rails because then you can't hit drones or do enough dps to kill anything with half a tank. I'd like to see what Merin can solo kill with a 75mm Harpy. Not much. The theory craft going through here is hilarious. @ Branko OF COURSE a hurricane has neuts fit. That's why (unless you know neuts are not being used) no frig pilot would even bother with a hurricane unless backup was available. Hell if I had Minmatar frig5, I would be out in a buffer Wolf running a small nos laughing at neuts all day long ANY cruiser that has utility high slots is a major threat. Pair that with a drone bay for ECM drones and you've got some trouble. Saying a ship geared to killing small targets is going to kill small targets is no big deal. Go fit an assault missile Caracal about it. Frankly, I'm suprised you haven't said anything about a Thorax with small guns. I don't really fight Arbitrators, Vexors etcetera unless I am in a booster + nos fit Ishkur where I don't need my guns to do damage. Simply because I KNOW neuts are difficult to manage and I KNOW ecm drones are annoying as all hell. Overall: - There is NOTHING wrong with your setup. - An equally skilled and properly equipped AF pilot WILL kill any T1 Cruiser. - Afterburners are **ing designed to be used on AFs. - Don't be **ed and you'll live (at least until some *** in a falcon shows up) - FRIGANK\|FRIGANK 2**
Prometheus Exenthal Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.11.19 07:23:00 - [7] Edited by: Prometheus Exenthal on 19/11/2008 07:23:44 Originally by: Merin Ryskin For solo PvP, MWD/24k wins. *Fail.* You won't solo kill anything bigger than a frig when using rails, and even then a single wave of light drones will wipe the floor with you. Not to mention lasers. FFS a beam fit Punisher with a DCU2 & 400mm plate would spank the hell out of you if you thought about using such trash. Not to mention even a bloody jav fit Vengeance spewing rockets at you. A HAWK would kill you ffs. Obviously the Harpy will kill frigates and interceptors. That's role in a large fleet! It's essentially a T2 Cormorant. Fit 125mm if thats what you want to do. Hell, If you do that then you can snipe bombers rather than run like a girl. Get over it. The Harpy is either a support sniper (60+ km) or brawler (10- km). 75mm railguns do NOT work on a Harpy. Go big or go home. Sidenote: A Pithi B-type SSB is not only expensive, but retarted to fit on a frig since you can't really support the massive cap usage without either an injector, rigs, and/or sacrificing dps. All while (ironically) sacrificing tank. They are better suited to go on gank fit command ships (lol i know) which can abuse their full T2 resists and cap.
Prometheus Exenthal Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.11.19 08:29:00 - [8] I am praying this is some sort of elaborate troll, because I can't stop laughing
Prometheus Exenthal Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.11.19 17:47:00 - [9] Originally by: Omarvelous Originally by: Prometheus Exenthal For the record, 0% in EM says lasers, gremlin rockets, sabretooth missiles, and acolyte drones ** your face. Doesn't matter if you have an MSE. I'm assuming he's including 2x anti-em screens like I am. He's not, he has 2 locus rigs Originally by:** Cpt Branko Originally by: Crellion Whats to stop an mwd + 24km+ buffer + assaults+ Neut Caracal with bcu in the lowslot from owning Nnumber of assault frigs? Nothing of course That's such a poor argument. "My anti-frig fit cruiser kills frigates!" REALLY!? No way! Obviously a cruiser fit to take out frigs is going to be killing frigs. I certainly wouldn't be using such a fit to take on battlecruisers
Prometheus Exenthal Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.11.20 00:19:00 - [10] Originally by: Cpt Branko Pilots with a brain will never accept fitting to lose. Except Merin apparently. - FRIGANK\|FRIGANK 2

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