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Isean Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2008.11.15 05:41:00 - [1] Target: Sentinal Bomber: Nemesis Ammunition: 3x CN Cataclysm Cruise Missiles Mods: 2x target painters on sentinal and 2x BCU IIs on nemesis Sentinal speed: 0 m/s Result: Not even full SHIELDS worth of damage. A bomber can no longer kill even frigates. Thank you CCP. I love you too.
Dark Soldat Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.11.15 07:25:00 - [2] I want my SP`s back !!!!
Siddy Minmatar Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.11.15 07:45:00 - [3] you supose to us them on 100k+ tankked EHP battleships. that will look your way with pitty.... and maybe let you shoot off few salvos, before asking nearest antifrig ship to frag you. Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Lego Maniac Minmatar	Posted - 2008.11.15 09:41:00 - [4] I'm loving the tears this patch is bringing, simply because I like seeing people cry and stamp their feet in frustration I don't even care about the ships themselves god I'm such an *******
Terraform Gallente Recreation Of The World	Posted - 2008.11.15 09:49:00 - [5] YOU'RE ALL WELCOME!
Pac SubCom A.W.M	Posted - 2008.11.15 10:25:00 - [6] Originally by: Isean Target: Sentinal Bomber: Nemesis Ammunition: 3x CN Cataclysm Cruise Missiles Mods: 2x target painters on sentinal and 2x BCU IIs on nemesis Sentinal speed: 0 m/s Result: Not even full SHIELDS worth of damage. A bomber can no longer kill even frigates. Thank you CCP. I love you too. With 0 target speed the cruises hit for full damage. --------------- ∞ TQFE
BiggestT Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.11.15 11:41:00 - [7] Originally by: Isean Target: Sentinal Bomber: Nemesis Ammunition: 3x CN Cataclysm Cruise Missiles Mods: 2x target painters on sentinal and 2x BCU IIs on nemesis Sentinal speed: 0 m/s Result: Not even full SHIELDS worth of damage. A bomber can no longer kill even frigates. Thank you CCP. I love you too. Use a bomb. Their half the price now and ignore sig radius/speed etc (much like smartbombs) Then come and complain if u get no results. EVE history Missiles post-nerf
Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2008.11.15 11:46:00 - [8] Originally by: Pac SubCom Originally by: Isean Target: Sentinal Bomber: Nemesis Ammunition: 3x CN Cataclysm Cruise Missiles Mods: 2x target painters on sentinal and 2x BCU IIs on nemesis Sentinal speed: 0 m/s Result: Not even full SHIELDS worth of damage. A bomber can no longer kill even frigates. Thank you CCP. I love you too. With 0 target speed the cruises hit for full damage. Correct. OP is full of bull****.
ZenSun Total Mayhem.	Posted - 2008.11.15 11:52:00 - [9] s'ok :) Hope you enjoy being a failure. (/me loves sentinel)
Nikolae Varius Amarr Exiled. Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.11.15 12:19:00 - [10] Originally by: Isean Target: Sentinal Bomber: Nemesis Ammunition: 3x CN Cataclysm Cruise Missiles Mods: 2x target painters on sentinal and 2x BCU IIs on nemesis Sentinal speed: 0 m/s Result: Not even full SHIELDS worth of damage. A bomber can no longer kill even frigates. Thank you CCP. I love you too. Great Troll. Would read again. ==================================== Looking for a 0.0 PvP corp? Check me out.
Kery Nysell Caldari Nysell Incorporated	Posted - 2008.11.15 13:04:00 - [11] Bombers were never meant to kill frigates. Cruise missiles were never meant to kill frigates. Using both of those inappropriate items to kill frigates will result in a most logical EPIC FAIL. Nice troll BTW, I almost fell for it ...
Shotar Aronia Intaki Mining and Exploration.	Posted - 2008.11.15 13:09:00 - [12] I dont think this was a troll at all....and the rest of QR aside and putting aside bombs which are a 0.0 item...SBs are lacking a role now.
Celestal	Posted - 2008.11.15 13:22:00 - [13] Originally by: Kery Nysell Bombers were never meant to kill frigates. Cruise missiles were never meant to kill frigates. Using both of those inappropriate items to kill frigates will result in a most logical EPIC FAIL. Nice troll BTW, I almost fell for it ... o really ? In addition, stealth bombers' extremely advanced missile navigation subroutines are able to triangulate a cruise missile's trajectory in advance, resulting in a decreased factor of signature radius and making the missile more effective against smaller targets.
Kery Nysell Caldari Nysell Incorporated	Posted - 2008.11.15 13:32:00 - [14] Originally by: Celestal o really ? In addition, stealth bombers' extremely advanced missile navigation subroutines are able to triangulate a cruise missile's trajectory in advance, resulting in a decreased factor of signature radius and making the missile more effective against smaller targets. Smaller targets ... smaller than what ? Smaller than the targets the cruise missiles are designed for ? That would be Battlecruisers and Cruisers, since cruise missiles are designed for Battleship-sized targets ... but we're still a long way from hitting frigates ... And that does nothing about the flawed original point, with a speed of 0 m/s, the target should have been hit for almost full damage (minus the reduction for sig radius) ...
Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2008.11.15 13:42:00 - [15] Originally by: Kery Nysell Smaller targets ... smaller than what ? Smaller than the targets the cruise missiles are designed for ? That would be Battlecruisers and Cruisers, since cruise missiles are designed for Battleship-sized targets ... but we're still a long way from hitting frigates ... And that does nothing about the flawed original point, with a speed of 0 m/s, the target should have been hit for almost full damage (minus the reduction for sig radius) ... Sentinel sig: 53m SB Cruise explosion radius with GMP IV: 40m Hence, full damage on stationary Sentinel.
RedSplat Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2008.11.15 14:00:00 - [16] Bombers were designed as anti support/smallships with massive alpha (for a frigate) in mind. Now their chief weapon is useless against frigates, doesn't do enough damage vs cruisers and can be safely ignored by bc'S/bs; they either warp out or simply tank the damage while pretty much anything else fast comes and shreds you. Bombs are still too expensive, still effected by sensor radius (good luck popping anything but t1 frigs, providing said t1 frigs don't have high resists) and require multiple players working together dropping multiple bombs to be effective- but wait, more than 5 bombs of the same type and you start nuking your own bombs. Add in the high likelihood of SB death as you can cloak with a bomb en-route.... So, what are SB's for now?
Nexus Kinnon Neo Spartans	Posted - 2008.11.15 14:17:00 - [17] All of you are posting like SBs had a role before the patch? lol?
Furb Killer Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.11.15 14:47:00 - [18] What nexus said, people whine about stealth bomber being useless, but it was allready useless before expansion.
Warrio Southern Cross Incorporated Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.15 15:02:00 - [19] Originally by: Nexus Kinnon All of you are posting like SBs had a role before the patch? lol? Nexus wins this thread. For the next item: I don't think anyone has whined about the Cerb in the past 10 minutes. sXe
Crazy Tasty Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.11.15 15:26:00 - [20] Edited by: Crazy Tasty on 15/11/2008 15:27:03 Originally by: Furb Killer What nexus said, people whine about stealth bomber being useless, but it was allready useless before expansion. They were far from useless, however, they were defiantly not a common ship, solo or in gangs. 2 of these used to have the same DPS potential of a Raven (guess they still do?), so it was great with a gang of them. I also laughed my ass off when I would 1 volley someone that sat still for the 15 seconds or so it took my cruise to do 160k, especially bomber 1v1's. I'm guessing about the only thing they can do now is add DPS to a frig gang thats going for cruiser or bigger targets? Anyway, all that said there are bigger things CCP has **ed up, like webs and the new gates. ------ // This is by design. When a ship jumps through a gate, it clears all aggression. // - BH ****** Pew on gate, if it gets hot, jump through and Ctrl-Q. Game mechanic endorsed by CCP.
xavier69 Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.11.15 15:30:00 - [21] I totally expected CCP to epic fail in this massive update. Congrats CCP you didnÆt prove me Wrong. CCP=EPIC FAILURE Anyone who has ever flown one of these ships knows, they are very limited long range anti support. They donÆt do enough damage to effect a battle cruiser or bigger and they donÆt have enough hps to tank a frigate at close range. Their role has always been long-range bomber. They can't interface with the cov opts cloak The Genius at ccp has dictated that a hauler should be able to use a cov opts cloak but not a SBà Epic fail agianà 2-3x the missile damage off a sb so they are feared by bs at long range or return them to there original role of anti frigate support for caps. Other wise just delete the ship class and refund all the sp and let us re-spend it on useful skills not dead ends.
Megan Maynard Minmatar Out of Order	Posted - 2008.11.15 15:37:00 - [22] Edited by: Megan Maynard on 15/11/2008 15:39:52 Originally by: Gypsio III Originally by: Pac SubCom Originally by: Isean Target: Sentinal Bomber: Nemesis Ammunition: 3x CN Cataclysm Cruise Missiles Mods: 2x target painters on sentinal and 2x BCU IIs on nemesis Sentinal speed: 0 m/s Result: Not even full SHIELDS worth of damage. A bomber can no longer kill even frigates. Thank you CCP. I love you too. With 0 target speed the cruises hit for full damage. Correct. OP is full of bull****. No he just lacks skills. EDIT: I have full skills in bombers. All bombs, uber skills, all t2 fits. They don't hit any different. If the frigate is moving good luck killing it, the patch changes nothing. Shot my corp mates ishkur that was completely tanked. Volleyed his shield with one missile. Took him to 75% armor with another missile. Had I launched a full volley he would have been in structure. So yeah, if your target is webbed you'll kill it pretty easy.
Pac SubCom A.W.M	Posted - 2008.11.15 16:03:00 - [23] Originally by: Megan Maynard If the frigate is moving good luck killing it, the patch changes nothing. It was possible to kill a frigate not using a speed mod at the time, for example a ceptor going 700 m/s. Still possible? Now that ceptor sigs are actually increased? --------------- ∞ TQFE
Pinky Denmark The Cursed Navy IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.11.16 11:49:00 - [24] I've actually seen more stealth bombers the last 2 months than I've seen the rest of my Eve Career so it's not like SB's were useless before patch... Pinky
Neyro7830 Gallente Stormfront A.W. Stormfront J.U.N.T.A.	Posted - 2008.11.16 12:19:00 - [25] Originally by: Nexus Kinnon All of you are posting like SBs had a role before the patch? lol? Post QR I can 2 salvo a Augoror, so... I'd say SBs have a role as anti-support. With decent refire rate skills, I can still get away unscathed if I'm quick. ___ I cannot be held responsible for the above post, because apparently,my cat has learned to type. :3
Neyro7830 Gallente Stormfront A.W. Stormfront J.U.N.T.A.	Posted - 2008.11.16 12:21:00 - [26] Originally by: Megan Maynard Edited by: Megan Maynard on 15/11/2008 15:39:52 Originally by: Gypsio III Originally by: Pac SubCom Originally by: Isean Target: Sentinal Bomber: Nemesis Ammunition: 3x CN Cataclysm Cruise Missiles Mods: 2x target painters on sentinal and 2x BCU IIs on nemesis Sentinal speed: 0 m/s Result: Not even full SHIELDS worth of damage. A bomber can no longer kill even frigates. Thank you CCP. I love you too. With 0 target speed the cruises hit for full damage. Correct. OP is full of bull****. No he just lacks skills. EDIT: I have full skills in bombers. All bombs, uber skills, all t2 fits. They don't hit any different. If the frigate is moving good luck killing it, the patch changes nothing. Shot my corp mates ishkur that was completely tanked. Volleyed his shield with one missile. Took him to 75% armor with another missile. Had I launched a full volley he would have been in structure. So yeah, if your target is webbed you'll kill it pretty easy. Link to skillz plx... I need a guide :D ___ I cannot be held responsible for the above post, because apparently,my cat has learned to type. :3
Taak Coram Gallente Outdated Host Productions	Posted - 2008.11.16 15:49:00 - [27] This is a blatant lie, I was instapopping velators earlier in mine, and I didn't have a target painter one it.
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.11.16 16:08:00 - [28] Originally by: Nexus Kinnon All of you are posting like SBs had a role before the patch? lol? this ^ bombers were crappy ships used by noobs before the patch, nothing has changed!
Kurull Skullsplitter Minmatar Citizens of E.A.R.T.H. E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2008.11.16 16:30:00 - [29] yeah two things I think the OP is rather questionable. I also think the chap who says SB's are not intended to kill frigates is full completely wrong in that opinion. I'm gonna fly to my closest SB and when my g/f wakes up and I'm back in the game I am going to blow her up in a couple different frigates at different speeds to see for myself.
Imaos	Posted - 2008.11.16 17:13:00 - [30] Originally by: xavier69 I totally expected CCP to epic fail in this massive update. Congrats CCP you didnÆt prove me Wrong. CCP=EPIC FAILURE Anyone who has ever flown one of these ships knows, they are very limited long range anti support. They donÆt do enough damage to effect a battle cruiser or bigger and they donÆt have enough hps to tank a frigate at close range. Their role has always been long-range bomber. They can't interface with the cov opts cloak The Genius at ccp has dictated that a hauler should be able to use a cov opts cloak but not a SBà Epic fail agianà 2-3x the missile damage off a sb so they are feared by bs at long range or return them to there original role of anti frigate support for caps. Other wise just delete the ship class and refund all the sp and let us re-spend it on useful skills not dead ends. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Epic fail your ass. Limited long range anti-support? Are you nuts? If you operate long range and anti-support is needed then there is someone who can pop you in a volley. If you want to be anti support sneek up, unleash a volley, cloak and reposition. Covops cloak is OP all over for SBs. Sure would be nice to get in and out unnoticed, but a group of that SBs can kill any ship in game without fear of retaliation. And we know how people like it when the have no chance at all to react (hint falcon threads (and there is at least a chance to counter them)). Feel free to collect some stupid BR pilots in your SB as they have no recloak bonus as opposed to recons and covops. (Guess I could live with cov ops cloak and no recloak bonus on the SB, but I am sure you couldnt ) Imaos

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