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Reven Cordelle Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.11.17 09:15:00 - [1] Everyone I know has this RESOUNDING fantasy to just grab a 12 guage in the dead of the night, find a few crowds of juvenile delinquents and just open up on them, spreading their flesh across the asphalt with the bloodthirsty prowess of a predator that has spent way too long off the hunt. Alright so... that would be savage, (although awesome) who in their right minds would make an advert demonstrating this? Barnados thats who. On this page is a little video, 3 men load up with shotguns, and basically just open on a few crowds of chavs in the dead of night. This sounds like an advert for the new world order, the movement of social cleansing! But no, at the end this woman proudly states that we should stop the demonisation of children and that every line of dialogue in the short film was infact a comment made ABOUT children. Don't you think "children" (Vermin) are being demonised for a reason? And why exactly would you think that the portrayal of every decent citizens DREAM would help your cause?! I love this advert, and it only increases my desire to open up on some of the wasted carbon in the streets, it does NOT make me sympathise with the bastards that steal my bicycles, steal cars, burn things, vandalise everything, stab people and generally just exist to be a terrorist of the nation. The "Children" in this case are nothing more than a detriment to society, and a constant scourge, nay... cancer, that this country is stricken with. Fist in the air :3
ouroboros trading Gallente Medics On Fire	Posted - 2008.11.17 09:20:00 - [2] "More than half the population believe UK children are "feral" and behave like animals, a survey has suggested." then perhaps more than half the population should learn how to ****ing parent.
Ombey Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.11.17 09:33:00 - [3] Originally by: ouroboros trading then perhaps more than half the population should learn how to ****ing parent. Exactly, but it's now a vicious circle. Crap parents 'bring up' kids they don't give a monkey's about. Those kids then turn into crap parents, having kids they don't have any interest in etc etc. Unfortunately, they all have massive families, so the problem isn't going away. Ever. -- 2d EveMaps\|My blog
ouroboros trading Gallente Medics On Fire	Posted - 2008.11.17 09:46:00 - [4] Originally by: Ombey Originally by: ouroboros trading then perhaps more than half the population should learn how to ****ing parent. Exactly, but it's now a vicious circle. Crap parents 'bring up' kids they don't give a monkey's about. Those kids then turn into crap parents, having kids they don't have any interest in etc etc. Unfortunately, they all have massive families, so the problem isn't going away. Ever. aye. i'd laugh if it wasn't one of the few things that makes me truely sad.
Vladimir Ilych Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.11.17 09:47:00 - [5] The kids in this advert appear to just be walking somewhere and talking. Not drinking in the street, breaking into cars, stealing or abusing people. Poor example of the "chav" breed.
Reven Cordelle Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.11.17 09:52:00 - [6] Originally by: Vladimir Ilych The kids in this advert appear to just be walking somewhere and talking. Not drinking in the street, breaking into cars, stealing or abusing people. Poor example of the "chav" breed. What do you think they were doing in the street at like.. MIDNIGHT in the first place? Going to Bingo?! I sincerely doubt it. But yeah they should have probably given one of them a bottle of White Lightning to get the point across.
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.11.17 10:06:00 - [7] I thought it was a pretty effective advert to be honest. Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the White Lightning swilling youths who actually DO go around making people's lives a misery. But the trouble is, all children are being tarred with the same brush. It's only a minority who are what I'd call "true chavs", but the sheer amount of bile and hatred directed towards teenagers in general is alarming. ____________________
Reven Cordelle Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.11.17 10:14:00 - [8] Originally by: ReaperOfSly I thought it was a pretty effective advert to be honest. Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the White Lightning swilling youths who actually DO go around making people's lives a misery. But the trouble is, all children are being tarred with the same brush. It's only a minority who are what I'd call "true chavs", but the sheer amount of bile and hatred directed towards teenagers in general is alarming. To be honest pal, No kid needs to be out at night past say... 11pm. Cept now they're out till the early hours just roaming the streets with NOTHING to do, ganging around in their "trackie bottoms". Hell, nowadays kids at 13 are doing the sin. At 13 my biggest interest in life was freakin.. LEGO. (How awesome was Technic). Kids as young as 12 are skipping a generation straight into being a "teenager"... And really this ad clearly only targets the "children" you see in the media. IE. Chavs. You only see the ones that are causing upheaval.. and for some reason barnados wants to embrace those kind. I stand by it. Advert increases my bloodlust. Hell, when the dude busts out there and just fires on a group with his 12 guage, its a beautiful piece of imagery. Justice. Thats what it is.
ouroboros trading Gallente Medics On Fire	Posted - 2008.11.17 10:15:00 - [9] when i was a kid i used to hang about with my mates at midnight and light fires 'down the fields', and we drank copiously! but we respected our elders and crime to us was an absolute ****ing big NO. Our parents had instilled in us morals and values. This clearly is no longer the case. hanging about at midnight does not turn you into a reprobate, lighting fires does not make you an arsonist. a total and utter lack of respect for other people when it comes to entertaining yourself and exploring the world is the problem. spare the rod, spoil the child.
Araxmas The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency The Covenant Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.17 10:15:00 - [10] Quote: Around 49% said they disagreed with the statement that children who "get into trouble" were "misunderstood" and needed professional help. Does nobody do stuff just because they can anymore? Christ I did some dangerous stupid things, not because I was mis-understood but because it seemed like a funny thing to do at the time. Luckily I managed to put the fire out before it started to burn me.

ouroboros trading Gallente Medics On Fire	Posted - 2008.11.17 10:19:00 - [11] but all of this is academic chattering, **** i can't even be bothered to troll and a thread such as this is ripe for it, 'cos it's just not internet-funny anymore. a thread on teh internets is cathartic in all the wrong and most unproductive of ways.
Tzar'rim	Posted - 2008.11.17 10:53:00 - [12] Edited by: Tzar''rim on 17/11/2008 10:55:43 I hate idiots, ret@rds and people who feel that society owns them something to a point where they start hurting others. I hate zombie people, people who can't think for themselves and just indulge.. more, more, bigger, fatter, MORE!!! People who just consume, quantity over quality, the noise to signal ratio, no taste, no refinement, just cattle. It's not just kids. My dream is to carry a gattling chaingun while wearing a clownsuit with a long flower on my hat. Then line up on a long busy shopping street and let it rip while moving from one side of the street to the other, mowing down everything that's closer than 600m. Laughing maniacally as I'm doing it picking out specific targets because of their stupid appearance. The deafening silence and inner peace afterwards makes up for any possible repercussions. Guess why I play EVE.
HankMurphy Minmatar Pelennor Enterprises	Posted - 2008.11.17 11:04:00 - [13] 2 things -the world has lots of downsides, and ever since the idea of morality was conceived, it has become in less and less supply as the years go buy. criminals come in all shapes and sizes, its not just the young punks causing problems. -500 years ago i'm sure some old bastard was complaining about how the youth were nothing like his generation and were the scourge of the earth. it's the way of things. kids will always punk around after hours doing **** they shouldn't and old people will always complain and get all 'get off my lawn-y' on them. ps: i know you guys talking about shooting ppl are probably joking. in the case that you actually have these violent fantasies, do everyone else a favor... if your unhappy, kill yourself and dont take anyone with you
ouroboros trading Gallente Medics On Fire	Posted - 2008.11.17 11:21:00 - [14] Edited by: ouroboros trading on 17/11/2008 11:22:37 Originally by: HankMurphy 2 things -the world has lots of downsides, and ever since the idea of morality was conceived, it has become in less and less supply as the years go buy. criminals come in all shapes and sizes, its not just the young punks causing problems. -500 years ago i'm sure some old bastard was complaining about how the youth were nothing like his generation and were the scourge of the earth. it's the way of things. kids will always punk around after hours doing **** they shouldn't and old people will always complain and get all 'get off my lawn-y' on them. ps: i know you guys talking about shooting ppl are probably joking. in the case that you actually have these violent fantasies, do everyone else a favor... if your unhappy, kill yourself and dont take anyone with you i would perhaps agree, a cool head prevails, etc. but things really are getting worse, when the government and their publicly funded BBC mouthpiece is getting polemic over stuff like 'crime is falling!' and producing useful figures to prove it you know somethings not right, especially when it flys in the face of what you see and experience and feel. but they've got everyone not trusting what they see and feel, the new labour pseudosocialist metanarrative running through everyone's head, everythings ok, clean thoughts, clean thoughts. it's why people want to and are leaving this country, unfortunately it's mostly the ex-liberals who oh-so welcomed all the crap we have now who can easily afford to pack up and go, considering, unlike multicultural england, you actually need skills to live in other countries as they still have the good sense to control their borders. the irony kills me. ugh.
Reven Cordelle Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.11.17 11:31:00 - [15] Originally by: HankMurphy -500 years ago i'm sure some old bastard was complaining about how the youth were nothing like his generation and were the scourge of the earth. Yeah, I can imagine it - a mere fifty years from now when I'm old... "ARGH BACK IN MY DAY kids only vandalised cars, smashed glass everywhere, stabbed innocent bystanders, shot 10 year old kids and got drunk in public... Now they're **ing my dog, raping newborn babies in broad daylight and have turned the community church into a brothel!" Hmm. To be honest, with the popularity and... twistedness of the internets, I dont think it would take 50 years for some group of people to do the afforementioned things. Actually i'm pretty sure they're doing them already... just not in public. Thats the final taboo. Doing it in public. So yeah we'll just keep turning a blind eye and let them get worse and worse yeah? Embrace them so they can keep ing up our without consequence? SAVE THE POOR "CHILDREN" SO THEY CAN SHOOT UP MOAR CRACK AMIRITE? Reaaally wise there lad, really wise. And yeah I DO have these fantasies, damn near every day whilst battling with Joe Public on the train and seeing inconsiderate s take a massive dump on the train toilet and leave the door wide open for everyone to enjoy, for example. Everyone, even the women... do it. The button is there, its lit up, "CLOSE" it says, its obvious. HELL, THE ING DOOR IS MOTORISED - WHY CANT YOU DO THIS. But they still do it. They leave that door wide open. The train stinks of human faeces, and they walk off with their mobile phone glued to their eyes. "c u 2 nite m8 yeh? omg she iz so fyt lyke innit" And personally. I'm not the problem, so why should I commit suicide when everyone else is the ? Suicide is the cowards way out, If I was to snap, I'd sail to victory and exterminate as many **wits as possible before being shot in the back of the head by armed police. I went down killing degenerates, delinquents... "chavs". My selective killing would be noted. I would be Natural Selection in action, the bullets guided by justice. I WOULD BE GODS HAND, REPENT. K, too far... You get the idea though.
ouroboros trading Gallente Medics On Fire	Posted - 2008.11.17 11:41:00 - [16] aye too far but you gotta have some humour about it aye else you'd go mad :P
HankMurphy Minmatar Pelennor Enterprises	Posted - 2008.11.17 11:51:00 - [17] Originally by: Reven Cordelle ranting ------------------------------ everybody be cool this is a threadjack! just lay face down on the ground and no one will get hurt!
IR Scoutar Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.11.17 12:47:00 - [18] Originally by: Reven Cordelle stuff yah im actualy with you tbh this has been a long time slope downwards that i even noticed in my youth thers another thing that folows in the footsteps of the "feral youth" and that is the bussiness world there is simply no place for a person with moral values and im not talking about holyer than thou 7 days a week in church values im talking basic respect for another human being i dont think its just social low lifes giving birth at age 16 and below (and sadly enough im not even exagerating much) or "socialy challenged" people seeking out similarly challenged people at a young age (early 20's) to emediatly start a family with at least 2 kids while those types in most cases simply cant be decent parents due to their situation, i dont think people that say a guy who is the ceo of a bank for 3 weeks and gets 18million out of that can be a good parent that can convey moral values to their child it just doesnt work and dont get me started on the states of education systems... oddly enough im a guy in his mid 20's who had his fair share of drowning his young head in alcohol (and other substances) once a while and doing other stupid stuff but coupled with good parenting and a good broad education i was able to outgrow my youth the only thing thats holding me back from being a vicious moneygrabbing bastard are my moral values i got a good job thou ^_^
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.11.17 12:52:00 - [19] O no! Its the end of the world. I see a point here and I see a point there. This is an agrument that has been going of for ages and will continue as Hank pointed out. All I can say is people better start volunteering or things will not change for most of these "kids", and this is a long shot at that. Slade
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.17 14:16:00 - [20] Originally by: ouroboros trading "More than half the population believe UK children are "feral" and behave like animals, a survey has suggested." then perhaps more than half the population should learn how to **ing parent. And the country needs to look at laws to allow them to parent. You can't even punish your kids any more without the law jumping on your for child abuse. How the are you suppposed to teach them right from wrong if they can't be punished for anything? Worst of all, the kids know their rights and threaten the parents with the law every time. Yes, I've been a parent and I've also been on the wrong end of "I'll have the law on you if you touch me." when my 13 year old step-son started vandalising property. Not being able to physically punish them means: You can't stop them going out if they are grounded. You can't do anything if they steal money from you cos you stopped their pocket money. You can't stop them going to their friends house to play on the Xbox cos you took theirs away. I think it's time we accepted the American idea of Boot Camps for these out of control kids. Juvenile detention is great for teaching them how to break the law on a big time scale and teaching them how to use their rights to their advantage. @ouroboros trading: You may have been lucky to have a child/children who respect their elders and don't listen to their friends at school, I know some kids like that and they are nice kids. Some of us have not been so lucky and get the real s that respect nobody. It's not about parenting, it's about the mentality of the kids themselves. One of my step-kids was the best kid you could ever want, the other two were the total opposite. Same parents, so what is the deciding factor there? What made one different to the other two? It's your kind of attitude that sees parents of unruly kids being fined and worse for the actions of their kids instead of being given help and/or laws to keep them under control. Yes, there are a few chav parents that don't give a flying ** about what their kids do but honestly, they are few and far between.

Xen Gin Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion	Posted - 2008.11.17 14:59:00 - [21] I'm in favour of a Civilian National Service, but not for everyone. When someone leaves high school at 16, you have a choice, go to Sixth Form/College or get a job/apprenticeship. If you haven't gotten a job within three months of leaving, you are automatically entered into the Civilian National Service. This service would be a sudo militaristic service combined with social awareness projects and participation. This is just the general gist of the idea, nothing really detailed.
Brea Lafail	Posted - 2008.11.17 15:26:00 - [22] Sounds to me like y'all are scapegoating these kids. Children become what society moulds them into, British society (and probably others around the globe) has created a pack of little monsters. Is it the monster's fault? I say nay.
Rhatar Khurin Minmatar Free Ammatar Aid Organisation	Posted - 2008.11.17 15:27:00 - [23] I've never understood these chav types, when i was a kid i rarely loitered in the street. The only times i was even out for more than about an hour was when i used to play football with a few friends at the local college. Most of my time was spent playing games with my friends on assorted consoles and computers or playing a good game of Warhammer 40k. The very idea of standing around outside a newsagent till midnight is just completely foreign to me. No wonder they drink white lighting and cause trouble, the poor kids must be bored to death and freezing cold.
Glarion Garnier Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.11.17 16:30:00 - [24] Originally by: Tzar'rim Edited by: Tzar''rim on 17/11/2008 10:55:43 I hate idiots, ret@rds and people who feel that society owns them something to a point where they start hurting others. I hate zombie people, people who can't think for themselves and just indulge.. more, more, bigger, fatter, MORE!!! People who just consume, quantity over quality, the noise to signal ratio, no taste, no refinement, just cattle. It's not just kids. My dream is to carry a gattling chaingun while wearing a clownsuit with a long flower on my hat. Then line up on a long busy shopping street and let it rip while moving from one side of the street to the other, mowing down everything that's closer than 600m. Laughing maniacally as I'm doing it picking out specific targets because of their stupid appearance. The deafening silence and inner peace afterwards makes up for any possible repercussions. Guess why I play EVE. Is your last name Rockefeller, Morgan or Rotschild???
Glarion Garnier Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.11.17 16:33:00 - [25] Originally by: Xen Gin I'm in favour of a Civilian National Service, but not for everyone. When someone leaves high school at 16, you have a choice, go to Sixth Form/College or get a job/apprenticeship. If you haven't gotten a job within three months of leaving, you are automatically entered into the Civilian National Service. This service would be a sudo militaristic service combined with social awareness projects and participation. This is just the general gist of the idea, nothing really detailed. In the former **** germany you would have been highly valued! perhaps good times are around the corner for you
Nuala Reece Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.11.17 17:43:00 - [26] Originally by: Reven Cordelle To be honest pal, No kid needs to be out at night past say... 11pm. Cept now they're out till the early hours just roaming the streets with NOTHING to do, ganging around in their "trackie bottoms". Point of interest - there's no time on that (fictional, btw) film and it is November here - it's getting dark from at least 5pm so your assumption of how late they are out could be off by as much as 6 hours. Originally by: Reven Cordelle Hell, nowadays kids at 13 are doing the sin. This has always been the case and is certainly nothing specific to young people today. Originally by: Reven Cordelle At 13 my biggest interest in life was freakin.. LEGO. (How awesome was Technic). And look how you turned out. Originally by: Reven Cordelle Kids as young as 12 are skipping a generation straight into being a "teenager"... When I was young I understood a 'generation' to be around 25 years. These damned young people - it's not enough that they lay waste to our previously quiet and crime free streets, now they have to start interfering with the very fabric of time itself and becoming teenagers a whole YEAR early! Originally by: Reven Cordelle And really this ad clearly only targets the "children" you see in the media. IE. Chavs. You only see the ones that are causing upheaval.. and for some reason barnados wants to embrace those kind. I imagine Barnardos wants to embrace all children, what with them being a children's charity, taking the view (a bit like the United Nations) that the definition of a child is "every human being below the age of 18 years unless under the law applicable to the child, majority is attained earlier." It's something to do with not restricting your point of view to shallow, unthinking, misinformed stereotypes and using those as an excuse to spout aggressive nonsense opinions that do nothing to help solve any of the range of complex problems which we see played out in the behaviour of a minority.
Gnomes Rock	Posted - 2008.11.17 18:20:00 - [27] Originally by: Reven Cordelle "ARGH BACK IN MY DAY kids only vandalised cars, smashed glass everywhere, stabbed innocent bystanders, shot 10 year old kids and got drunk in public... Stopped reading there. Your first mistake was(is) believeing everything reported in the news is everday stuff. No, 10-17 year olds just don;t stab people randomly, only the most ****ed up minority do. And every country has that minority. By demonising all of "us", you're just promoting hate and a feeling of mutual rebellion.
ouroboros trading Gallente Medics On Fire	Posted - 2008.11.17 18:23:00 - [28] soz kiddo ;) but i'm only 24 and have seen before my eyes the younger generation emerge as violent, restless, tribalistic. trust me, the future of british society does not look good :P
Bigeasy Caldari It's A Trap	Posted - 2008.11.17 18:25:00 - [29] They aint Pikies are they? I ****ing hate pikies.
Zephyr Rengate Caldari Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2008.11.17 18:41:00 - [30] What children acting like animals? I'm sure adults do animal things aswell, like eat and sleep etc. Just because we act a bit feral dont make us any worse than you animal adults.



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