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Fraa Excelsias
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Posted - 2008.11.17 14:49:00 -
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I know there are a million posts that play out this question with mathematical whizbang, but, I'm looking for more practical advice.
I'm a new player and setup some basic skill plans for my toons (2 - one combat, one indy), both that would leave me with about 10-12mil SP and competent dudes. I couldn't think what to plan for past these basics (indy = hulk, refining, mining, production, trade; combat = HACs and BS). I mean, what else do I need? :p I'm sure I'll think of something, but for now, these are reasonable, reachable goals within 10-12 months.
SO - I plug what I need into EVEMON and it spits back my learning suggestions. No more than Level 4 in rank 1 or rank 4 skills...?
So I check the forums. People say to skill up to level 5 in the rank 1s. That's an extra 16-20 days of training! So I start thinking, how much training would I need to do for that to make a difference? Well, I start loading up **** like Titans, Doomsday weapons, capital ship construction, just to get some long skill trains into EVEMON and see when those Level 5 skills would pay off.
One year of training? Nope.
500 days of training? Still just Spatial Reasoning V.
After I finally get in over 600 days of training, I finally have a training built that tells me I should have all Rank 1 Learning skills at level 5.
Thing is... I may not last in EVE that long :P And, it only saved me 15 days ... that's a 2.5% difference in training speed.
Am I crazy thinking this way? My thought is -- F* it! I'd rather get these learning skills cranked out and just start having fun training real stuff that matters. If I end up having a toon who's training is 2.5 - 5.0% slower than one with maxed Rank 1 skills... that's not the end of the world.
Could use some practical advice here :)
Thanks!
Fraa Excelsias |
djenghis jan
Amarr
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.11.17 15:03:00 -
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do you want to stick around for more than three years, train the advanced skill to 4. Are you bored easily, train the basic skill to 4.
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2008.11.17 15:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Fraa Excelsias
Could use some practical advice here :)
Why? You worked it out perfectly, came to the correct conclusions. All that's left is to make your own decision. There's not much more that we can add.
Originally by: Signature
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Fraa Excelsias
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Posted - 2008.11.17 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Washell Olivaw
Why? You worked it out perfectly, came to the correct conclusions. All that's left is to make your own decision. There's not much more that we can add.
Guess I just wanted to make sure my thinking was correct, and that I didn't miss anything. I think I'll do:
Basic / Advanced learnings to 4
Learning itself to 5
Then start letting it rip ;P
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters
DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.11.17 15:50:00 -
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Training Learning from 4 to 5 will take 5 days for me, it will give like a 3-4% boost.... so i'll get 1 day off each 30 days of training and that'll start paying off after 5 months lol |
Culzarn
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Posted - 2008.11.17 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Fraa Excelsias
Originally by: Washell Olivaw
Why? You worked it out perfectly, came to the correct conclusions. All that's left is to make your own decision. There's not much more that we can add.
Guess I just wanted to make sure my thinking was correct, and that I didn't miss anything. I think I'll do:
Basic / Advanced learnings to 4
Learning itself to 5
Then start letting it rip ;P
I have most of my learning now in the lvl 4's for rank 3's and 1's and i plugged in a full set of +4 implants, now the training is going alot quicker  |
Jainia Soltella
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Posted - 2008.11.17 17:55:00 -
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One thing to keep in mind on your combat char is that you may spend extended periods of time without implants, or cheap +1s & 2s in your head. Having your basics to V helps to mitigate that a little. |
Hellinthose
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Posted - 2008.11.17 18:29:00 -
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Generally i only train learning when i do not have anything else to train.
If you are learning skills 1-2 days in length, it will not help you much, you may see a few basic hours of gain by spending a few hours training Learning skills from 3-4 or 4-5.
When you start training skills like capital ships, battleships, and their advanced support skills it takes 30+ days to train a skill! This means that if you even save 5% of that by training learning skills you save 3 WHOLE days!
Short answer. If you are playing for a specific purpose (i.e. a Marauder or Titan / heavier T2 ships) you may want to invest. Otherwise, No. Train basics to 2 or 3 and let it rip.
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