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Quix
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Posted - 2004.07.09 08:51:00 -
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The dampening of sentrys should not be treated as an exploit. So why they have nerfed the dampening of sentrys are a mystery to me... Look in this thread or just read the interresting part: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=82473
GM Panzer Game Master wrote:
5. Don't rely on Sentry Guns to keep you a 100% safe. Especially not when travelling in unsecure space. There are several tactical ways to avoid sentry gun fire, that are NOT considered to be an exploit.
IMHO that is how it should be! If the sentrys can't be dampened there is almost none risk at all. If it is worth something to be in below 0.5 there should be some drawbacks also. Now the space out there are full off high earning missionrunners, lab slot occupants, it should be some danger involved to get access to that!
But if someone are expoliting a bugged function with the sentrys, that isn't good.
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Quix
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Posted - 2004.07.09 08:51:00 -
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The dampening of sentrys should not be treated as an exploit. So why they have nerfed the dampening of sentrys are a mystery to me... Look in this thread or just read the interresting part: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=82473
GM Panzer Game Master wrote:
5. Don't rely on Sentry Guns to keep you a 100% safe. Especially not when travelling in unsecure space. There are several tactical ways to avoid sentry gun fire, that are NOT considered to be an exploit.
IMHO that is how it should be! If the sentrys can't be dampened there is almost none risk at all. If it is worth something to be in below 0.5 there should be some drawbacks also. Now the space out there are full off high earning missionrunners, lab slot occupants, it should be some danger involved to get access to that!
But if someone are expoliting a bugged function with the sentrys, that isn't good.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.07.09 09:22:00 -
[33]
 Originally by: Jarjar
Originally by: Viceroy
Originally by: iam isgirl
sensor damper
sentries cannot be sensor dampened.
I should put this in my sig, pretty annoying to see people who don't know claiming pirates are "sensor damping sentrys", while they're actually tanking them. 
Oh yeah I hear ya.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.07.09 09:22:00 -
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Originally by: Jarjar
Originally by: Viceroy
Originally by: iam isgirl
sensor damper
sentries cannot be sensor dampened.
I should put this in my sig, pretty annoying to see people who don't know claiming pirates are "sensor damping sentrys", while they're actually tanking them.
Oh yeah I hear ya.
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AbraKadaver
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Posted - 2004.07.09 09:48:00 -
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AbraKadaver
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Posted - 2004.07.09 09:48:00 -
[36]
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.07.09 10:05:00 -
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:D hehe
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.07.09 10:05:00 -
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:D hehe
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Feta Solamnia
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Posted - 2004.07.09 10:57:00 -
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I've been wtfpwn'd outside the oyonata station.
The funny part is that I got shot ~3-4 times outside that station (blood raider station), an the sentries were just apllauding at the situation.
We got some chances to gank the gankers but we were always afraid of the turrets.
I think it's high time CCP posted EXACT rules about crime and sentries. All this keeping us in the dark is just metrosexual.
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Feta Solamnia
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Posted - 2004.07.09 10:57:00 -
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I've been wtfpwn'd outside the oyonata station.
The funny part is that I got shot ~3-4 times outside that station (blood raider station), an the sentries were just apllauding at the situation.
We got some chances to gank the gankers but we were always afraid of the turrets.
I think it's high time CCP posted EXACT rules about crime and sentries. All this keeping us in the dark is just metrosexual.
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Lamb Chop
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Posted - 2004.07.09 12:14:00 -
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We have also been ganked in Obe (0.4) and other below 0.5 systems near stations etc...
I know they are bugged for sure, but that is good, if CCp is not interfering with the kills pirates get, than they shouldn't mind the other way around either...
Muhahahaha
[DVRN] Co-CEO Lamb Chop
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Lamb Chop
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Posted - 2004.07.09 12:14:00 -
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We have also been ganked in Obe (0.4) and other below 0.5 systems near stations etc...
I know they are bugged for sure, but that is good, if CCp is not interfering with the kills pirates get, than they shouldn't mind the other way around either...
Muhahahaha
[DVRN] Co-CEO Lamb Chop
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.07.09 13:27:00 -
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Since when do CCP interfere when pirates get killed? lol I dont think youll get any pirates moaning if they get killed by sentries just cos they thought that they wouldnt get shot at :P
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.07.09 13:27:00 -
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Since when do CCP interfere when pirates get killed? lol I dont think youll get any pirates moaning if they get killed by sentries just cos they thought that they wouldnt get shot at :P
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AbraKadaver
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Posted - 2004.07.09 14:55:00 -
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I hereby call for the banning of sentries everywhere 
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AbraKadaver
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Posted - 2004.07.09 14:55:00 -
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I hereby call for the banning of sentries everywhere
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Annu
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Posted - 2004.07.09 15:54:00 -
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There's actually been a long discussion about this particular effect within Falls, and we've even discussed it with a GM.
He said its not an exploit.
So far as Falls investigation goes.
If your gonna sit outside a station, do this:
Note what ship you're in
What race you are
What your standing to the station is
What the pirates faction to station is
What the pirates standing to your race is
Blabla, many computations, but, it appears with the new criminal flagging system, and recent addition of new social skills, you can attack certain people at certain stations of certain factions with no comeback from the sentries.
(250 Mill isk and ill give you the real formulae :P)
Fallschirmjager have been developing a list of said stations, and it would be advisable, should you see us in local to dish out the appropriate rates. Or your ship will go boom. :)
Until this is seen as an exploit, I'll be popping things this way. :oo
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Annu
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Posted - 2004.07.09 15:54:00 -
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There's actually been a long discussion about this particular effect within Falls, and we've even discussed it with a GM.
He said its not an exploit.
So far as Falls investigation goes.
If your gonna sit outside a station, do this:
Note what ship you're in
What race you are
What your standing to the station is
What the pirates faction to station is
What the pirates standing to your race is
Blabla, many computations, but, it appears with the new criminal flagging system, and recent addition of new social skills, you can attack certain people at certain stations of certain factions with no comeback from the sentries.
(250 Mill isk and ill give you the real formulae :P)
Fallschirmjager have been developing a list of said stations, and it would be advisable, should you see us in local to dish out the appropriate rates. Or your ship will go boom. :)
Until this is seen as an exploit, I'll be popping things this way. :oo
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Ertai Vodalion
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Posted - 2004.07.09 16:13:00 -
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It¦s no exploit if it¦s within the game mechanics and CCP wanted it to be like that (and tbh I love it when it¦s standing dependant).
But those information should be available to everyone !
As someone posted above - CCP should release the rules that apply within the criminal flagging system and sentries firing.
Is a setup possible with your findings where you can happily bomb a pilot without sentries firing at you and when your prey returns fire the sentries will toast him ? (say station, faction blag blah blah likes you very much and dislikes the one you shoot at)..
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Ertai Vodalion
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Posted - 2004.07.09 16:13:00 -
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It¦s no exploit if it¦s within the game mechanics and CCP wanted it to be like that (and tbh I love it when it¦s standing dependant).
But those information should be available to everyone !
As someone posted above - CCP should release the rules that apply within the criminal flagging system and sentries firing.
Is a setup possible with your findings where you can happily bomb a pilot without sentries firing at you and when your prey returns fire the sentries will toast him ? (say station, faction blag blah blah likes you very much and dislikes the one you shoot at)..
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Annu
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Posted - 2004.07.09 16:25:00 -
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Well
Yesterday i killed a Vexor, his mate jumped out of system, then jumped back in 2 minutes later, only for the sentries to pwn his rupture.
So i guess the answer is yes.
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Annu
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Posted - 2004.07.09 16:25:00 -
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Well
Yesterday i killed a Vexor, his mate jumped out of system, then jumped back in 2 minutes later, only for the sentries to pwn his rupture.
So i guess the answer is yes.
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2004.07.09 17:29:00 -
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I know I can do 174m/s and go 6500m safely tanking 2 sentry guns in a raven.
Hey by the way what system did that happen, been getting bored mining as of late. I like those falls guys because they have below -5 security status, makes it more fun for me and my crew.
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2004.07.09 17:29:00 -
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I know I can do 174m/s and go 6500m safely tanking 2 sentry guns in a raven.
Hey by the way what system did that happen, been getting bored mining as of late. I like those falls guys because they have below -5 security status, makes it more fun for me and my crew.
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2004.07.09 21:11:00 -
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Aside from certain rules/faction/whatever, the behaviour of faction sentry guns is somewhat random quite frankly.
Every once in awhile Gurrista sentry guns in Venal open up on a pilot for no reason at all. Very rare, but happens. Also, more commonly people warping from a belt killing Gurristas to a Gurrista station get shot by Gurrista sentries, but that's only 10% of the time too (and not based on Gurrista faction either).
My personal favourite for stupid was a mate who docked in his Megathron (no sentry aggression), switched to an industrial, undocked and got blasted by the sentry guns. Or the guys who docked safely the night before (no sentries angry or firing), undocked THE NEXT MORNING and got blasted by sentry guns.
Bugs? There are no bugs with faction sentries!
BW
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2004.07.09 21:11:00 -
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Aside from certain rules/faction/whatever, the behaviour of faction sentry guns is somewhat random quite frankly.
Every once in awhile Gurrista sentry guns in Venal open up on a pilot for no reason at all. Very rare, but happens. Also, more commonly people warping from a belt killing Gurristas to a Gurrista station get shot by Gurrista sentries, but that's only 10% of the time too (and not based on Gurrista faction either).
My personal favourite for stupid was a mate who docked in his Megathron (no sentry aggression), switched to an industrial, undocked and got blasted by the sentry guns. Or the guys who docked safely the night before (no sentries angry or firing), undocked THE NEXT MORNING and got blasted by sentry guns.
Bugs? There are no bugs with faction sentries!
BW
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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Roog
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Posted - 2004.07.10 02:48:00 -
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Originally by: Feta Solamnia
I've been wtfpwn'd outside the oyonata station.
The funny part is that I got shot ~3-4 times outside that station (blood raider station), an the sentries were just apllauding at the situation.
We got some chances to gank the gankers but we were always afraid of the turrets.
Oyonata and some of the systems around there have blood raider stations, sentries on these stations will only protect blood raider property i.e. the station and the other sentres. (And if a blood raider spawns near there it will protect that too.)
We lost a ship to this too.
Roog
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Roog
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Posted - 2004.07.10 02:48:00 -
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Originally by: Feta Solamnia
I've been wtfpwn'd outside the oyonata station.
The funny part is that I got shot ~3-4 times outside that station (blood raider station), an the sentries were just apllauding at the situation.
We got some chances to gank the gankers but we were always afraid of the turrets.
Oyonata and some of the systems around there have blood raider stations, sentries on these stations will only protect blood raider property i.e. the station and the other sentres. (And if a blood raider spawns near there it will protect that too.)
We lost a ship to this too.
Roog
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Draaken
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Posted - 2004.07.10 04:57:00 -
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Originally by: FuPhal
hehe :) who killed you? :P
Ypoug blew me up and podded me (apparently he didn't get the corpse though, or he tried to pull my leg there too) in Katugumur, about an hour later SteaIth caught me again, this time in Ingunn. Didn't get to pod me though, and that time, sentry guns shot to my favor.
Originally by: Dirtball
Hey by the way what system did that happen
Katugumur and Ingunn. They're strong in there. Met Annu in his Raven there today, but got away. Helps not being in an indy... 
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Draaken
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Posted - 2004.07.10 04:57:00 -
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Originally by: FuPhal
hehe :) who killed you? :P
Ypoug blew me up and podded me (apparently he didn't get the corpse though, or he tried to pull my leg there too) in Katugumur, about an hour later SteaIth caught me again, this time in Ingunn. Didn't get to pod me though, and that time, sentry guns shot to my favor.
Originally by: Dirtball
Hey by the way what system did that happen
Katugumur and Ingunn. They're strong in there. Met Annu in his Raven there today, but got away. Helps not being in an indy...
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